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emaherx

See the WHO are no longer backing EAT-Lancet report.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-6907429/World-Health-Organization-pulls-support-controversial-planetary-health-diet.html

Grueller

emaherx wrote: »

See the WHO are no longer backing EAT-Lancet report.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-6907429/World-Health-Organization-pulls-support-controversial-planetary-health-diet.html

That doesn't matter now. The report got backed by the media at the time and the vegan lobby got its publicity. A climb down by the WHO will get a 10 second mention on the news on RTE while the report got days of attention and debate.

_Brian

emaherx wrote: »

See the WHO are no longer backing EAT-Lancet report.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-6907429/World-Health-Organization-pulls-support-controversial-planetary-health-diet.html

Damage is done. Truth doesn’t matter on social media, getting your message out first with huge attention is what matters and what people will remember.

gozunda

Grueller wrote: »

That doesn't matter now. The report got backed by the media at the time and the vegan lobby got its publicity. A climb down by the WHO will get a 10 second mention on the news on RTE while the report got days of attention and debate.

Its good to know because everytime this Frankenstein vege diet or similar gets thrown at you as being approved/ the best/ gives you wings - it's easy to point out one the EAT report itself has been debunked and that the WHO has dropped it like a smelly issue of underpants.

emaherx

_Brian wrote: »

Damage is done. Truth doesn’t matter on social media, getting your message out first with huge attention is what matters and what people will remember.

Well sure in that case we should give up sell up the farms and live on lettuce

_Brian

Everything went wrong so far this morning.

500kg heifer got head caught in weanlings barriers overnight.

She busted pins on barrier and let two others to bag of meal. Feed passage wrecked, bags of nets spread through ****, busted buckets, spilt molasses, broken forks. Wind had them drive mad.

Off to fence now

_Brian

emaherx wrote: »

Well sure in that case we should give up sell up the farms and live on lettuce

No but the damage in public opinion is done.

Hard Knocks

Can you adjust the clutch on a 4wd quad, seams to be slipping when there’s a load on

Buford T. Justice XIX

_Brian wrote: »

No but the damage in public opinion is done.

I wouldn't worry, Brian. They're behind in this conversation again.

While they're getting their knickers in a twist from virtue signalling about reducing their meat consumption once a week, the worlds CO2 concentrations continue to rocket due to their favoured energy intensive lifestyle.

And the worlds oceans are past their buffering capacity to absorb this extra CO2 which has masked their lifestyles true cost.

And the only possible way to absorb that extra CO2 is to sequester it in soils, which has only 30% of the worlds available surface area. And there's an increasing amount of published research and even more anecdotal evidence of the speed that pasture, managed correctly, can absorb huge amounts of carbon from the atmosphere and keep it securely sequestered.

Look up David R. Montgomery and Gabe Brown and download some samples of their books and have a look at Allan Savory on YouTube and some of the amazing work he has done in the Sahel in restoring the ecosystem and fertility there. And most importantly, the carbon he has reintroduced into the depleted soils of the region.

Livestock farming is a good place to be in to prepare for the future.

Mortelaro

I saw one of those huge Dairy farmers take calves from the mothers Vegan billboards in macroom of all places yesterday

wrangler

NeighboursL ifor williams livestock trailer taken last night, 8 by 4, with large numbers on the side written in Black, ''OY 100060''
Apparently the numbers can't be taken off without damaging the surface of the trailer

Say my name

wrangler wrote: »

NeighboursL livestock trailer taken last night, 8 by 4, with large numbers on the side written in Black, ''OY 100060''
Apparently the numbers can't be taken off without damaging the surface of the trailer

Do you know the make of the trailer?

wrangler

Say my name wrote: »

Do you know the make of the trailer?

Ifor wiliiams

whelan2

Neighbour lost the lock that goes in our one. Where can a replacement barrel be got

Albert Johnson

On the subject of trailers I see that tri axles are becoming very common place in 12 foot trailers recently. I've a 12 foot double axle Graham Edwards which I'm happy with but it's fairly hard pulled and tends to sway a bit when empty. Has anyone a tri axle 12 foot and are they easier pulled or steadier on the road?

kk.man

whelan2 wrote: »

Neighbour lost the lock that goes in our one. Where can a replacement barrel be got

Ring Westwood in Nass. They send it by post.

orm0nd

whelan2 wrote: »

Neighbour lost the lock that goes in our one. Where can a replacement barrel be got

trailerspares. ie

Hard Knocks

Albert Johnson wrote: »

On the subject of trailers I see that tri axles are becoming very common place in 12 foot trailers recently. I've a 12 foot double axle Graham Edwards which I'm happy with but it's fairly hard pulled and tends to sway a bit when empty. Has anyone a tri axle 12 foot and are they easier pulled or steadier on the road?

Yea they’re supposed to be allot steadier

Butcher Boy

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Yea they’re supposed to be allot steadier

we have a hudson 12ft tri axel and a i w 14ft tri axel with the wheels underneath ,the hudson is far nicer to pull and steadier on the road.

Albert Johnson

Butcher Boy wrote: »

we have a hudson 12ft tri axel and a i w 14ft tri axel with the wheels underneath ,the hudson is far nicer to pull and steadier on the road.

A lot of the places I frequent with the trailer are awkward and as my Land cruiser is lwb I think that a 12 foot trailer is big enough. A 14 foot would mean extra capacity of course but would be even more awkward in these tight spots than my current setup. The Graham Edwards is doing the job fine but I'm considering a 12 foot tri axle Hudson as it might be easier pulled and steadier on the road. Changing to one with the wheels underneath would increase the capacity slightly while maintaining the same overall length but I have no experience with those types of trailer.

Mac Taylor

Had a calf with meningitis this evening, 3 weeks old. Vet reacons I got it early. Hopefully, heifer calf by lm2014, lost a bull calf by the same sire who had this and coccidiosis at about the same age, curious are some animals more susceptible than other?

Say my name

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

I wouldn't worry, Brian. They're behind in this conversation again.

While they're getting their knickers in a twist from virtue signalling about reducing their meat consumption once a week, the worlds CO2 concentrations continue to rocket due to their favoured energy intensive lifestyle.

And the worlds oceans are past their buffering capacity to absorb this extra CO2 which has masked their lifestyles true cost.

And the only possible way to absorb that extra CO2 is to sequester it in soils, which has only 30% of the worlds available surface area. And there's an increasing amount of published research and even more anecdotal evidence of the speed that pasture, managed correctly, can absorb huge amounts of carbon from the atmosphere and keep it securely sequestered.

Look up David R. Montgomery and Gabe Brown and download some samples of their books and have a look at Allan Savory on YouTube and some of the amazing work he has done in the Sahel in restoring the ecosystem and fertility there. And most importantly, the carbon he has reintroduced into the depleted soils of the region.

Livestock farming is a good place to be in to prepare for the future.

I was just watching The Week in Politics on RTE.
From it it seems Luke Ming Flanagan is a stand out politician on what needs to be done while looking after his constituents.
He's fairly clued in on the role farming has in the climate debate.
He's the only one bringing up the EU idea of a payment of €200/t of carbon sequestered to landowners. The zinger for his constituents is his claim of an acre of bogland able to sequester 40tons (per year?).

Every other Irish EU MEP contenders are seemingly just concentrated on the status quo.

148multi

Say my name wrote: »

I was just watching The Week in Politics on RTE.
From it it seems Luke Ming Flanagan is a stand out politician on what needs to be done while looking after his constituents.
He's fairly clued in on the role farming has in the climate debate.
He's the only one bringing up the EU idea of a payment of €200/t of carbon sequestered to landowners. The zinger for his constituents is his claim of an acre of bogland able to sequester 40tons (per year?).

Every other Irish EU MEP contenders are seemingly just concentrated on the status quo.

Well it was the closing of bogs that got him elected, if we get penalised for cutting turf, why can't we get rewarded for growing bogs, he is just looking after his own, at least Luke and Michael Fitzmaurice look out for the rural people.

patsy_mccabe

Mac Taylor wrote: »

Had a calf with meningitis this evening, 3 weeks old. Vet reacons I got it early. Hopefully, heifer calf by lm2014, lost a bull calf by the same sire who had this and coccidiosis at about the same age, curious are some animals more susceptible than other?

What symtoms did she have? Never had it here.

Limestone Cowboy

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

What symtoms did she have? Never had it here.

Had a calf with it here before. Was running into the walls in a 20 acre field, throwing itself on the ground. Going around in circles, running away from the cow. Bawling. Was kind of like it had no awareness of its surroundings. You'd definitely know something was wrong anyway. My one lived and was grand after. Heard the commotion at 2am and went down the field to see what was wrong, loaded the calf up and brought him to the vet straight away. Was lucky to get him in time.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Say my name wrote: »

I was just watching The Week in Politics on RTE.
From it it seems Luke Ming Flanagan is a stand out politician on what needs to be done while looking after his constituents.
He's fairly clued in on the role farming has in the climate debate.
He's the only one bringing up the EU idea of a payment of €200/t of carbon sequestered to landowners. The zinger for his constituents is his claim of an acre of bogland able to sequester 40tons (per year?).

Every other Irish EU MEP contenders are seemingly just concentrated on the status quo.

I've been following Ming for a while on twitter and himself and Sean Kelly are very tuned in on farming matters, Ming more so. Kelly is hampered by following the party line which he kind of admitted at a meeting last week but he does have more input into decision making so that would colour his inputs into debates a good bit, I imagine.

Hard Knocks

148multi wrote: »

Well it was the closing of bogs that got him elected, if we get penalised for cutting turf, why can't we get rewarded for growing bogs, he is just looking after his own, at least Luke and Michael Fitzmaurice look out for the rural people.

They work well together but listening to conversations in the mart, over the last 2 years Michael has done massive work for farmers

laoch na mona

Say my name wrote: »

I was just watching The Week in Politics on RTE.
From it it seems Luke Ming Flanagan is a stand out politician on what needs to be done while looking after his constituents.
He's fairly clued in on the role farming has in the climate debate.
He's the only one bringing up the EU idea of a payment of €200/t of carbon sequestered to landowners. The zinger for his constituents is his claim of an acre of bogland able to sequester 40tons (per year?).

Every other Irish EU MEP contenders are seemingly just concentrated on the status quo.

I'd be fairly impressed with Matt Carhy's record on the agri committee as well he's got some important things through the comittee for irish farmers and overall him and Luke seem to vote largly the same (not much of a surprise as Luke is in the same group as Sinn Fein in Europe)

Its not constituency though down here theres a lad running to protest the prosed Irish water pipe from the shannon to Dublin, I'll probably give Ni Riada a vote as the way parties work her votes on agriculture issues would be directed by Matt, beyond that on of the people working for ming is running

148multi

Hard Knocks wrote: »

They work well together but listening to conversations in the mart, over the last 2 years Michael has done massive work for farmers

And some well outside of his constituency

wrangler

148multi wrote: »

And some well outside of his constituency

Like what has he done

148multi

wrangler wrote: »

Like what has he done

Well, when farming associations bring farmers to Michael Fitzmaurice, to sort out problems with the department of agriculture that they can't, it says it all. There was a tragic case where a person died in England, when the family went for an arranged handover of the deceased, some gob****e had forgotten to sign necessary papers and gone away for the weekend, no move from anyone here or there. Neighbour contacted MF and was sorted within hours. He may well be a rough diamond, but he definitely is our diamond.

Birdnuts

Say my name wrote: »

I was just watching The Week in Politics on RTE.
From it it seems Luke Ming Flanagan is a stand out politician on what needs to be done while looking after his constituents.
He's fairly clued in on the role farming has in the climate debate.
He's the only one bringing up the EU idea of a payment of €200/t of carbon sequestered to landowners. The zinger for his constituents is his claim of an acre of bogland able to sequester 40tons (per year?).

Every other Irish EU MEP contenders are seemingly just concentrated on the status quo.

Met Ming in Belmullet a couple of weeks ago - was impressed with his efforts and knowledge as regards reforming the CAP and making it fairer for the small man on marginal land, properly rewarding genuine efforts by farmers for protecting farmland habitats etc.

wrangler

148multi wrote: »

Well, when farming associations bring farmers to Michael Fitzmaurice, to sort out problems with the department of agriculture that they can't, it says it all. There was a tragic case where a person died in England, when the family went for an arranged handover of the deceased, some gob****e had forgotten to sign necessary papers and gone away for the weekend, no move from anyone here or there. Neighbour contacted MF and was sorted within hours. He may well be a rough diamond, but he definitely is our diamond.

You don't now what's goin on behind the scenes, especially coming up to an election,

Say my name

Birdnuts wrote: »

Met Ming in Belmullet a couple of weeks ago - was impressed with his efforts and knowledge as regards reforming the CAP and making it fairer for the small man on marginal land, properly rewarding genuine efforts by farmers for protecting farmland habitats etc.

It somehow feels himself and it seems Matt Carthy are the only ones shouting for this.
Then they're both raising the issue of the 4bn Euro going from this country towards a pan European military force.
CAP is being reduced. Funding for the military is being increased.

I had to watch the week in politics again. It seems it was Emmanuel Macron who proposed a carbon payment of €200/ton to farmers. The president of the country where the yellow vest "anarchy" against carbon taxes has taken hold.
Who'd be a politician?
Speak vaguely, promise nothing, talk fluff to everyone. Get elected.

148multi

Say my name wrote: »

It somehow feels himself and it seems Matt Carthy are the only ones shouting for this.
Then they're both raising the issue of the 4bn Euro going from this country towards a pan European military force.
CAP is being reduced. Funding for the military is being increased.

I had to watch the week in politics again. It seems it was Emmanuel Macron who proposed a carbon payment of €200/ton to farmers. The president of the country where the yellow vest "anarchy" against carbon taxes has taken hold.
Who'd be a politician?
Speak vaguely, promise nothing, talk fluff to everyone. Get elected.

Do you by any chance advice Charlie Flanagan

Say my name

Interesting piece on our butter making history in this country.

https://twitter.com/ucddublin/status/1106225098107899904?s=20


No doubt probably milking black cows belonging to the Celtic peoples.
Kerry in Ireland. Welsh black in Wales.
Angus in Scotland. Etc.

Base price

Mac Taylor wrote: »

Had a calf with meningitis this evening, 3 weeks old. Vet reacons I got it early. Hopefully, heifer calf by lm2014, lost a bull calf by the same sire who had this and coccidiosis at about the same age, curious are some animals more susceptible than other?

I had to bring one to the knackery on Friday night to be put down. It was either meningitis or listeriosis.

Bass Reeves

Say my name wrote: »

Interesting piece on our butter making history in this country.

https://twitter.com/ucddublin/status/1106225098107899904?s=20


No doubt probably milking black cows belonging to the Celtic peoples.
Kerry in Ireland. Welsh black in Wales.
Angus in Scotland. Etc.

In the 1700 and 1800's the world market price for butter was set in the butter market in Cork. Ireland was the largest butter exporter in the world. There was a road from Kerry to Cork City know as the butter road.

Another little know fact is that from about the 1200's to the1500's Ireland was a huge importer of wine from Spain and exported wool, butter and whiskey in return. This is why it was easy to capture Red Hugh O'Donnell by the English as it was not uncommon for Spanish traders to bring wine to trade for other goods with Irish chieftien's

CHOPS01

Anyone watch Wingman last night on RTE. Thought it was really really good. Delighted for Jimmy

Mac Taylor

Base price wrote: »

I had to bring one to the knackery on Friday night to be put down. It was either meningitis or listeriosis.

I’d say mine is touch and go, still sucking which is good.
Can’t really do much atm, put my back out yesterday,
I can just about walk-in doctors waiting for an injection,
First one in a year and a half.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Mac Taylor wrote: »

I’d say mine is touch and go, still sucking which is good.
Can’t really do much atm, put my back out yesterday,
I can just about walk-in doctors waiting for an injection,
First one in a year and a half.

Same here, removing mats from the cubicles for power hosing and twisted badly. In a hurry to get going so stayed at it. Bad move, can't put on socks atm. I'll have to get someone in to finish it, unless Whelan2 has a few free days:)

Albert Johnson

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Same here, removing mats from the cubicles for power hosing and twisted badly. In a hurry to get going so stayed at it. Bad move, can't put on socks atm. I'll have to get someone in to finish it, unless Whelan2 has a few free days:)

I have sympathy for the both of you, back trouble is debilitating. My left ankle was killing all weekend, I can't remember twisting on it but obviously done something. Work was mentle Friday and Saturday too which didn't help. I'd just over 40,000 steps done Saturday evening and I'd imagine Friday wouldn't have been much behind. I rested it yesterday and today and thankfully it seems much improved.

Mac Taylor

Albert Johnson wrote: »

I have sympathy for the both of you, back trouble is debilitating. My left ankle was killing all weekend, I can't remember twisting on it but obviously done something. Work was mentle Friday and Saturday too which didn't help. I'd just over 40,000 steps done Saturday evening and I'd imagine Friday wouldn't have been much behind. I rested it yesterday and today and thankfully it seems much improved.

Just back from doctor.....2 injections and 7 days worth of tablets.


Manure to be shook, few calves to be dehorned....so like Buford if anyone wants to help.....much appreciated and will be rewarded in heaven. (suckler farmer so cant afford to pay here and now!!!)

Mac Taylor

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

What symtoms did she have? Never had it here.

Like others have said, the calve will be lethargic (mine got up and stretched) but straight away started stretching its neck like if you had a creek in your neck also they will grind their teeth. The walk of them will be aimless to put it mildly, if you put your hands over their eyes they will not flinch.


Hopefully you'll never have a case, can be a right sickner.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Mac Taylor wrote: »

Just back from doctor.....2 injections and 7 days worth of tablets.


Manure to be shook, few calves to be dehorned....so like Buford if anyone wants to help.....much appreciated and will be rewarded in heaven. (suckler farmer so cant afford to pay here and now!!!)

The kids are gone down for an hour or two because I can't stand for much more than an hour without having an ice pack on for an hour after. Luckily, it doesn't stay long with me, a half hour at the chiropracter twice a week and the ice pack generally gets me back again.

Jb1989

Mac Taylor wrote: »

Had a calf with meningitis this evening, 3 weeks old. Vet reacons I got it early. Hopefully, heifer calf by lm2014, lost a bull calf by the same sire who had this and coccidiosis at about the same age, curious are some animals more susceptible than other?

If anybody has the cure of meningitis locally get it will work

Say my name

Ah ye's are all phucked!!

Meanwhile in an unusual move for the BBC.

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/science-environment-48074629/how-cow-dung-can-help-fight-climate-change

dzer2

Mac Taylor wrote: »

Just back from doctor.....2 injections and 7 days worth of tablets.


Manure to be shook, few calves to be dehorned....so like Buford if anyone wants to help.....much appreciated and will be rewarded in heaven. (suckler farmer so cant afford to pay here and now!!!)

How can you afford Manure

Mac Taylor

dzer2 wrote: »

How can you afford Manure

Ive been told often enough I talk a lot of shyte, so I put in a digester to convert it to pellets so like the Glanbia scheme I have a closed loop and full traceability!!!!!!!!!!!1

Lady Haywire

Lady Haywire wrote: »

My Odd-Ear is due to TVR today. I'm like a child before Christmas!

We have two feet! Surprisingly short gestation :pac: