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Parishlad

MeTheMan wrote: »

I know you have to do it, but is it worth doing? Learn anything new?

I only recently got my own sprayer so for someone inexperienced like myself you would definitely pick up a few things. If you have been spraying for a while then, theoretically, you would know what you are at and probably wouldn’t ‘need’ to do the course. However, if nothing else it may make you think a bit more about keeping yourself as safe as possible when spraying. It’s nasty stuff we deal with when it comes to spraying.

Say my name

Reggie. wrote: »

Local man here calves 600 cows off one bedding of peat. He uses about 100m3 in the calving shed

Are the fields that get spread with the peat and dung showing good resilience to the drought conditions?
Or any difference at all?

Reggie.

Say my name wrote: »

Are the fields that get spread with the peat and dung showing good resilience to the drought conditions?
Or any difference at all?

Hard to know as he spread water on the paddocks from the lake so

bogman_bass

kollegeknight wrote: »

Would it be very dirty?

Used it for the first time this year. Cattle were a lot cleaner on it than on straw

Reggie.

bogman_bass wrote: »

Used it for the first time this year. Cattle were a lot cleaner on it than on straw

You'll do it again

Lady Haywire

Have Jenny for AI this morning at 10, grand, no issues.....or so I thought.
Panda and her calf in with next doors crazy loop de loops with the rig bull, incalf heifer going mad as she's too big to jump through. To top it all off, there's a cow in heat in the neighbours field too.
Last thing i wanted was the bloody heifer to beach herself joining them so had to attempt a great escape and steal panda from under the bulls watchful eye.
Somehow, some God is shining on me and after one flight of fancy down the field with the other whackjobs, she came straight for bucket with her calf toddling after. One blessing here- neighbours nutjobs don't know how/won't follow bucket so they didn't come too.

Say my name

bogman_bass wrote: »

Used it for the first time this year. Cattle were a lot cleaner on it than on straw

Would you have to harrow it up often and if so what would you use?

Reggie.

Say my name wrote: »

Would you have to harrow it up often and if so what would you use?

I never go near it. Cattle will rut it up once ya don't put in too much

Muckit

Heard of a lad using an old rotavator. Obviously need a good depth of it in before you'd do it.

Hard Knocks

Has anyone every given muscle bite from Natural stockcare to cattle & what you think of it?

kollegeknight

Scanned cattle today. Only 1/9 definitely in calf. Another 3/4 maybe. 3 definitely not.

Coiled one.

So that will be 3/12 in total in calf so far. Vet makes off they are lacking nothing and in good form. So will take bull off on 4 weeks and scan in 6 and anything empty, just get rid irrespective of price.

I will buy springers next year.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Seeing as it was raining, we said we'd do something useful so....

grassroot1

kollegeknight wrote:

So that will be 3/12 in total in calf so far. Vet makes off they are lacking nothing and in good form. So will take bull off on 4 weeks and scan in 6 and anything empty, just get rid irrespective of price.

Think you need to look at the bull too

Mooooo

kollegeknight wrote: »

Scanned cattle today. Only 1/9 definitely in calf. Another 3/4 maybe. 3 definitely not.

Coiled one.

So that will be 3/12 in total in calf so far. Vet makes off they are lacking nothing and in good form. So will take bull off on 4 weeks and scan in 6 and anything empty, just get rid irrespective of price.

I will buy springers next year.

When did you start breeding.? Do you vaccinate for lepto? Fert test the bull?

naughto

Pissing down rain here I hope it doesn’t forget to stop

Parishlad

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Seeing as it was raining, we said we'd do something useful so....

New addition to the family?

kollegeknight

Mooooo wrote: »

When did you start breeding.? Do you vaccinate for lepto? Fert test the bull?

Don’t vaccinate for lepto. Should I test for it?

Vet said- he can’t bull them if they are not cycling. Some have been with bull since end of March. Most since April.

When I scanned 4 weeks ago 2 were in calf and I coiled 4 so they may yet be in calf but not showing. And I put 4 more with him that day.

Two in particular I wanted to check today- a heifer ended up being 7 weeks in calf and I coiled her mother.


He had 13/13 last year but I will be fert testing him to see.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Parishlad wrote: »

New addition to the family?

Yeah, new house dog. Chloe, apparently, but I'm still holding out for Uisce.

Nah, me neither

patsy_mccabe

Looking after a neighbours cattle while he's gone away for a break. Jeez bucket reared calves are so quiet compared to the sucklers. Some have sore eyes and I'm catching them in the field to do them , no bother.

ganmo

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Yeah, new house dog. Chloe, apparently, but I'm still holding out for Uisce.

Beatha

Not an unusual name for a dog

patsy_mccabe

kollegeknight wrote: »

Scanned cattle today. Only 1/9 definitely in calf. Another 3/4 maybe. 3 definitely not.

Coiled one.

So that will be 3/12 in total in calf so far. Vet makes off they are lacking nothing and in good form. So will take bull off on 4 weeks and scan in 6 and anything empty, just get rid irrespective of price.

I will buy springers next year.

Do you see them bulling? If you could see them 3 times a day, that would help a lot. If they are all bulling, then problem is with the bull. If they are not bulling yet, then maybe feed them some dairy nuts for a while. I find it great to bring them in heat. Dairy nuts will sort out any minerals they may be lacking too.

kollegeknight

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Do you see them bulling? If you could see them 3 times a day, that would help a lot. If they are all bulling, then problem is with the bull. If they are not bulling yet, then maybe feed them some dairy nuts for a while. I find it great to bring them in heat. Dairy nuts will sort out any minerals they may be lacking too.

I get to check them around 10am and 6pm. Some weren’t bulling.
How much dairy nuts should I give? Thanks for the advice

patsy_mccabe

kollegeknight wrote: »

I get to check them around 10am and 6pm. Some weren’t bulling.
How much dairy nuts should I give? Thanks for the advice

Start them off on maybe 1/2 Kg per head for a few days and build up to 2Kg per head if they have good grass. If cows are very milky, they may need more.
I fed mine during the winter when silage was short and they came bulling mad quick.....and that was on concrete in bad weather.

CHOPS01

Feeding round bales here for the last 3 weeks that were made early June. Eating through alot quicker now than at the start. Would it be because the silage is sweeter now that it's more fermented?
Ration increased in the same period

Say my name

CHOPS01 wrote: »

Feeding round bales here for the last 3 weeks that were made early June. Eating through alot quicker now than at the start. Would it be because the silage is sweeter now that it's more fermented?
Ration increased in the same period

If you're still feeding grass as well. It could be the quantity of grass is reducing so more reliance on the silage.
Or else they're youngstock and growing.

Mooooo

kollegeknight wrote: »

Don’t vaccinate for lepto. Should I test for it?

Vet said- he can’t bull them if they are not cycling. Some have been with bull since end of March. Most since April.

When I scanned 4 weeks ago 2 were in calf and I coiled 4 so they may yet be in calf but not showing. And I put 4 more with him that day.

Two in particular I wanted to check today- a heifer ended up being 7 weeks in calf and I coiled her mother.


He had 13/13 last year but I will be fert testing him to see.

You can blood test for it and other things ask the vet. Perhaps test the bull soon as if he is the Issue no point waiting another 4 weeks to find out. If tight on grass / silage a shake of nuts would help, important for conception to have a rising plane of nutrition

ganmo

Mooooo wrote: »

You can blood test for it and other things ask the vet. Perhaps test the bull soon as if he is the Issue no point waiting another 4 weeks to find out. If tight on grass / silage a shake of nuts would help, important for conception to have a rising plane of nutrition

If you’re getting bloods getting trace elements tested would be good idea. Selenium, copper and iodine have a direct impact on fertility.

kollegeknight

Mooooo wrote: »

You can blood test for it and other things ask the vet. Perhaps test the bull soon as if he is the Issue no point waiting another 4 weeks to find out. If tight on grass / silage a shake of nuts would help, important for conception to have a rising plane of nutrition

Vet wasn’t inclined to blood test him, said to wait another few weeks. Cattle calving towards end of April might not be showing properly yet. And I do have a few that calves mid April last year. He thought a few may be there. I will feed with some nuts.

CHOPS01

Say my name wrote: »

If you're still feeding grass as well. It could be the quantity of grass is reducing so more reliance on the silage.
Or else they're youngstock and growing.

15 bullocks all head for 30 months. Closed off in a plot no more than acre that had very little grass to start with.

Ah maybe they know their date with the factory is upcoming and just trying to pile on the kgs so I'll get a few extra yoyos

Mooooo

kollegeknight wrote: »

Vet wasn’t inclined to blood test him, said to wait another few weeks. Cattle calving towards end of April might not be showing properly yet. And I do have a few that calves mid April last year. He thought a few may be there. I will feed with some nuts.

You would Blood test the cows and the bull for the lepto. To fert test the bull you need a semen sample. The vet should be able to do that and look under the microscope and tell you there and then, that's what our vet does anyway.

Hard Knocks

kollegeknight wrote: »

Scanned cattle today. Only 1/9 definitely in calf. Another 3/4 maybe. 3 definitely not.

Coiled one.

So that will be 3/12 in total in calf so far. Vet makes off they are lacking nothing and in good form. So will take bull off on 4 weeks and scan in 6 and anything empty, just get rid irrespective of price.

I will buy springers next year.

Good few not incalf here too, & lots of cows repeating in herds. 2017 & 2018 taking their toll

Base price

Kerrygold in trouble for misleading advertising in California

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Doctors room ghost

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Good few not incalf here too, & lots of cows repeating in herds. 2017 & 2018 taking their toll

There isn't a gosling to be got on account of the bad start to the year.

greysides

kollegeknight wrote: »

Vet wasn’t inclined to blood test him, said to wait another few weeks. Cattle calving towards end of April might not be showing properly yet. And I do have a few that calves mid April last year. He thought a few may be there. I will feed with some nuts.

An option might be to separate the cows from the calves except for twice a day feeding. Extra work and needs good fences but should bring the cows on.

roosterman71

roosterbaby born yesterday morning. 6lbs 11.5ozs. Everyone doing good. Mrs. is in a blind panic about everything the little lad does. To be expected I guess

whelan2

roosterman71 wrote: »

roosterbaby born yesterday morning. 6lbs 11.5ozs. Everyone doing good. Mrs. is in a blind panic about everything the little lad does. To be expected I guess

Congratulations. Is this your first?

Rows Grower

roosterman71 wrote: »

roosterbaby born yesterday morning. 6lbs 11.5ozs. Everyone doing good. Mrs. is in a blind panic about everything the little lad does. To be expected I guess

Congratulations to ye and good health.

(I read your post in my emails without looking at your username and was thinking wtf!)

kollegeknight

roosterman71 wrote: »

roosterbaby born yesterday morning. 6lbs 11.5ozs. Everyone doing good. Mrs. is in a blind panic about everything the little lad does. To be expected I guess

congratulationa on the new chick. prepare for sleepless nights and a wrecked house.

Rosahane

kollegeknight wrote: »

congratulationa on the new chick. prepare for sleepless nights and a wrecked house.

I enjoyed telling all the new or expectant fathers that worked with me the Rosahane two rules of new fatherhood

Rule 1: No not waken, learn to "sleep" through lights, elbows in the back, crying etc.

Rule 2: If you do have to waken, offer to help out as much as possible, do the feeding, changing, burping etc. etc. but make sure you are doing it correctly, the only way you can make sure of this by constantly and continiously checking with the mother that you are indeed doing things correctly. If you properly observe this Rule you can revert to Rule 1.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Rosahane wrote: »

I enjoyed telling all the new or expectant fathers that worked with me the Rosahane two rules of new fatherhood

Rule 1: No not waken, learn to "sleep" through lights, elbows in the back, crying etc.

Rule 2: If you do have to waken, offer to help out as much as possible, do the feeding, changing, burping etc. etc. but make sure you are doing it correctly, the only way you can make sure of this by constantly and continiously checking with the mother that you are indeed doing things correctly. If you properly observe this Rule you can revert to Rule 1.

If my lot were depending on me waking to feed them, they'd be sleeping right through the night from the day they came home from hospital:D

KatyMac

Lady Haywire wrote: »

Have Jenny for AI this morning at 10, grand, no issues.....or so I thought.
Panda and her calf in with next doors crazy loop de loops with the rig bull, incalf heifer going mad as she's too big to jump through. To top it all off, there's a cow in heat in the neighbours field too.
Last thing i wanted was the bloody heifer to beach herself joining them so had to attempt a great escape and steal panda from under the bulls watchful eye.
Somehow, some God is shining on me and after one flight of fancy down the field with the other whackjobs, she came straight for bucket with her calf toddling after. One blessing here- neighbours nutjobs don't know how/won't follow bucket so they didn't come too.

Got to love these sort of days. Checking my girls this morning - saw a young calf, great thinks I the calf is the hardest to find so she is grand! Then another young calf comes running down field - heifer due next week had her calf trotting along beside her.
Then missing another cow - found her on her own. Sick. So home for tractor and trailer. Now waiting for vet.
And in the middle of all that the 'first calf' that I registered as a heifer, we spotted 'her' having a wee and is actually a bull! Sigh!!!

KatyMac

Well vet has been and gone. Cow has some form of mastitis (he called it an abscess and some other word that I cannot remember). Anyway he reckoned best way to treat was to cut the quarter and let it out - such a puddle of disgusting stuff. She was on the cull list anyway but is most definitely going once the antibiotics etc are cleared from her system.

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whelan2

Was in the local credit union earlier. Loan rates are now 10%!

Muckit

whelan2 wrote: »

Was in the local credit union earlier. Loan rates are now 10%!

We've the 'cultivate' one here. I don't think they rolled it out nationwide. I find the CU very good. Open sat and in and out and no fuss professional service.

whelan2

Muckit wrote: »

We've the 'cultivate' one here. I don't think they rolled it out nationwide. I find the CU very good. Open sat and in and out and no duss professional service.

I took a loan out with them last year for 4.9% some difference in the rate

Say my name

There's a blood moon out tonight.
But thankfully it won't be seen because it's raining.

Base price

whelan2 wrote: »

I took a loan out with them last year for 4.9% some difference in the rate

Our credit union is 6% for a secured loan, I think they offer the same if you are buying a car, otherwise it's 9.6%.

Base price

Muckit wrote: »

We've the 'cultivate' one here. I don't think they rolled it out nationwide. I find the CU very good. Open sat and in and out and no fuss professional service.

What is the cultivate one?

Hard Knocks

Say my name wrote: »

There's a blood moon out tonight.
But thankfully it won't be seen because it's raining.

Was hoping to see it & Mars but too cloudy