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Muckit wrote: »

I'm getting worried. You are talking to yourself again!

Well look on the bright side, at least the subject has changed ðŸ˜

roosterman71

Interesting study on the climate effects of organic farming vs. conventional
You might want to think twice when buying organic, new study claims
Assessing the efficiency of changes in land use for mitigating climate change (need a subscription to read the study in full)

Say my name

roosterman71 wrote: »

Interesting study on the climate effects of organic farming vs. conventional
You might want to think twice when buying organic, new study claims
Assessing the efficiency of changes in land use for mitigating climate change (need a subscription to read the study in full)

There's a few who would beg to differ.


https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/how-do-we-grow-microbes-soil-marius-willemse

roosterman71

Say my name wrote: »

There's a few who would beg to differ.


https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/how-do-we-grow-microbes-soil-marius-willemse

If someone said water was wet, there'd be some that would disagree

Say my name

roosterman71 wrote: »

If someone said water was wet, there'd be some that would disagree

It's important to follow all angles though.

There's a bible of articles in that link.
And you won't read or hear about them down at the co-op. :pac:

whelan2

Writing Christmas cards. Arghhhh

orm0nd

whelan2 wrote: »

Writing Christmas cards. Arghhhh

swap with you,

writing cheques here and another vulture contractor on route

Buford T. Justice XIX

whelan2 wrote: »

Writing Christmas cards. Arghhhh

Job for tomorrow night, hopefully. The thinking about it is worse than the doing for me though.


And it gives me a kick up the backside when I think about friends I haven't talked to in a few months:o

Say my name

Getting wet here checking out an abandoned stolen crashed car on one of the farm's ditches.

Blues in attendance and it can be towed from the roadside. So all's fine.

Number plates removed and not a sign of the sinner.

Water John

Chassis No?

Say my name

Water John wrote: »

Chassis No?

I couldn't tell you.

It is raining on a busy corner in undergrowth and the guards are in attendance waiting for a tow truck. So I left them at it.

No fence broke and no weanlings on the road.
So that'll do me.

Say my name

Ain't she a great little one.

Greta Thunberg (@GretaThunberg) Tweeted:
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They act.
Join us!!
Global climate strike 14 December.
Spread the word!!
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I must do it tomorrow for the cod during my teagasc phosphorus course!
I'll just stand up in silence...

whelan2

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Job for tomorrow night, hopefully. The thinking about it is worse than the doing for me though.


And it gives me a kick up the backside when I think about friends I haven't talked to in a few months:o

It's a bit sad marking people off the christmas card list that have died during the year :cool: Anyway all done now and 1 stamp to spare.

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Wicked organization minus ear numbess!!

greysides

https://www.farmersjournal.ie/no-evidence-of-deer-role-in-tb-outside-wicklow-department-vet-426094

Ryan explained the Department did not dispute that deer could pass TB to cattle but that they disputed whether it played a significant role outside of Wicklow.

He said: “The question isn’t whether it happens at all, it is whether it is significant.”

Reggie.

orm0nd wrote: »

swap with you,

writing cheques here and another vulture contractor on route

I'd say you were glad of that vulture at one stage

Lady Haywire

Contractors who hold onto a cheque :mad::mad::mad:
Lodge the fcuking thing ffs.

Reggie.

Lady Haywire wrote: »

Contractors who hold onto a cheque :mad::mad::mad:
Lodge the fcuking thing ffs.

Don't forget winter is a slow time for some contractors so some like spread out the cashing of cheques

Lady Haywire

Reggie. wrote: »

Don't forget winter is a slow time for some contractors so some like spread out the cashing of cheques

Yea fantastic but we need our costs to be on this side of the year too :rolleyes:

wrangler

Reggie. wrote: »

Don't forget winter is a slow time for some contractors so some like spread out the cashing of cheques

Not reallly fair on the payer though, can hit the account a really bad time.
People forget and spend the money again.......put it into a savings account if you don't want to spend it

Reggie.

wrangler wrote: »

Not reallly fair on the payer though, can hit the account a really bad time.
People forget and spend the money again.......put it into a savings account if you don't want to spend it

True but don't forget contractors sometimes have to wait months sometimes even a year to get money aswell.

What's good for the goose....

Reggie.

Lady Haywire wrote: »

Yea fantastic but we need our costs to be on this side of the year too :rolleyes:

And the contractor could be trying to stretch out payments too so that he's not pole axed on vat in one month

wrangler

Reggie. wrote: »

True but don't forget contractors sometimes have to wait months sometimes even a year to get money aswell.

What's good for the goose....

No way to carry on a business though, I think I'd bounce it just to give him a fright if he didn't lodge it

Reggie.

wrangler wrote: »

No way to carry on a business though, I think I'd bounce it just to give him a fright if he didn't lodge it

Its the nature of the business and its how it's done. Can't blame a person for trying to save themselves money.

I think purposefully bouncing a cheque on a man which might have a crucial payment due on a machine a far worse act.

I think that's a poor reflection on yourself that you even mentioned that...even in jest. The person provided a service.

wrangler

Reggie. wrote: »

Its the nature of the business tho. Can't blame a person for trying to save themselves money.

I think purposefully bouncing a cheque on a man which might have a crucial payment due on a machine a far worse act.

If you're flush all year it probably wouldn't even be noticeable when someone takes the money out of your account ......however !!!!!

ganmo

Reggie. wrote: »

Its the nature of the business and its how it's done. Can't blame a person for trying to save themselves money.

I think purposefully bouncing a cheque on a man which might have a crucial payment due on a machine a far worse act.

I think that's a poor reflection on yourself that you even mentioned that...even in jest. The person provided a service.

How does not cashing a cheque save ya money?

Bouncing a cheque on purpose is a low act

wrangler

ganmo wrote: »

How does not cashing a cheque save ya money?

Bouncing a cheque on purpose is a low act

It's one of the bigger bills of the year, people pay when they have it, they don't expect it to be messed around and sneaked in six mths later.
Seemingly everyone here is flush all the time, a bounced cheque and by jasus they'd cash it the next time they got it , problem solved

Lady Haywire

Reggie. wrote: »

And the contractor could be trying to stretch out payments too so that he's not pole axed on vat in one month

I'm sorry but if I give a cheque I expect it to be cashed within a month at least. I don't want to be carrying it over for the next 5 months & then into next year. F** off:mad:

Reggie.

ganmo wrote: »

How does not cashing a cheque save ya money?

Bouncing a cheque on purpose is a low act

Contractors have to show their vat as in 13.5% on their service. If for instance I got paid now for most of my work say €10000 because of the SFP the vat would €1189. That shows on this vat period.

So I might only be only be able to claim back €500 off my own expenses such as parts and diesel so I'd have to pay €689 vat to the tax man. If I held some of the payments back till a quiet section like January/February then I'd be able to write more off and avoid paying excess vat.

Reggie.

Lady Haywire wrote: »

I'm sorry but if I give a cheque I expect it to be cashed within a month at least. I don't want to be carrying it over for the next 5 months & then into next year. F** off:mad:

That is a bit long alright and def should be cashed before any years end but do remember contractors have to do the same waiting on payments for riduclious lengths of time.

I myself always cash asap

Reggie.

wrangler wrote: »

It's one of the bigger bills of the year, people pay when they have it, they don't expect it to be messed around and sneaked in six mths later.
Seemingly everyone here is flush all the time, a bounced cheque and by jasus they'd cash it the next time they got it , problem solved

Who said everyone is flush all the time?

I says

Reggie. wrote: »

Contractors have to show their vat as in 13.5% on their service. If for instance I got paid now for most of my work say €10000 because of the SFP the vat would €1189. That shows on this vat period.

So I might only be only be able to claim back €500 off my own expenses such as parts and diesel so I'd have to pay €689 vat to the tax man. If I held some of the payments back till a quiet section like January/February then I'd be able to write more off and avoid paying excess vat.

That’s what was done on me by a contractor held check over for 10 weeks lodged 3jan on new year.
‘‘Twas last bit of work they got here since.

ganmo

Reggie. wrote: »

Contractors have to show their vat as in 13.5% on their service. If for instance I got paid now for most of my work say €10000 because of the SFP the vat would €1189. That shows on this vat period.

So I might only be only be able to claim back €500 off my own expenses such as parts and diesel so I'd have to pay €689 vat to the tax man. If I held some of the payments back till a quiet section like January/February then I'd be able to write more off and avoid paying excess vat.

But you'd be able to claim the vat on purchases back without having anything to write them off against. Yes if you cashed 10k you'd have to hand over 1350 but you'd still have 8650 that you didn't have.

Reggie.

I says wrote: »

That’s what was done on me by a contractor held check over for 10 weeks lodged 3jan on new year.
‘‘Twas last bit of work they got here since.

Shouldn't have carried it over to the new year as it fecks the farmer up. I do know contractors that have agreements with farmers that get a DD every month and then balance everything in December and others take payments at certain months but it's agreed well in advance to no nasty surprises. It's what works best for everyone involved

You should hire me in you sound local enough

Reggie.

ganmo wrote: »

But you'd be able to claim the vat on purchases back without having anything to write them off against. Yes if you cashed 10k you'd have to hand over 1350 but you'd still have 8650 that you didn't have.

But why hand over the 1350 to the taxman if ya didn't have to? Don't forget the contracting game is as tight as farming itself so ya have to use every angle ya can.
No different to farmers spending on things in the yard or machines to avoid paying excess tax at years end and rightly so as the tax man gets enough out of each of us.

That figure could also be €100,000 so then its 13,500. I know a small baling outfit near me that burns approx €10000 woth of diesel a month in the summer. Might not get paid till the tail end of the year. That's a fair whack of money to be throwing out with little coming in. The fact that it's had to get credit with depots too also adds to it. A big SP fleet nearby goes through roughly €35,000 a month when in full swing

Lady Haywire

I get ya Reggie, I get ya, just ranting. Pay every year & ask for invoice. Ask for invoice. Ask for invoice. Ask for invoice. Two contractors & both paid, I just want invoices.
It's not bloody rocket science.
It's not going to kill you.

Invoice. On a dated slip. Thanks. :mad:

Reggie.

Lady Haywire wrote: »

I get ya Reggie, I get ya, just ranting. Pay every year & ask for invoice. Ask for invoice. Ask for invoice. Ask for invoice. Two contractors & both paid, I just want invoices.
It's not bloody rocket science.
It's not going to kill you.

Invoice. On a dated slip. Thanks. :mad:

I'm lucky as most of my customers (a few of them boardsies......You know who ye are ) pay me going out the gate and I issue an invoice the next day or within days from that (usually first quiet day or day finished reasonably early) but there is are a few that like to delay payment. Herself does be sick of running to the bank in the summer

In this case my payments are well spread out so no issues then throughout the year and everyone's happy.

But I have found that the older generation like to leave all the work bundled to the end of the year where younger farmers pay as each piece of work is done.

I says

Anyways not long back from brownes on the green tyrellspass got the 10oz ribeye absolutely perfect. Highly recommend the place and the boss was well impressed also.

Reggie.

I says wrote: »

Anyways not long back from brownes on the green tyrellspass got the 10oz ribeye absolutely perfect. Highly recommend the place and the boss was well impressed also.

Been there a few times. The parents know the owners well

I says

Reggie. wrote: »

Been there a few times. The parents know the owners well

I shall return.

Reggie.

I says wrote: »

I shall return.

Only thing I found is that you can be waiting between servings. I'm not fun to be around while hungry :rolleyes:

gozunda

Lady Haywire wrote: »

Contractors who hold onto a cheque :mad::mad::mad:
Lodge the fcuking thing ffs.

Or vets who ring you a year later saying they forgot to lodge them ...

whelan2

6 months is too long for a cheque to be valid.

Hard Knocks

Reggie. wrote: »

I'm lucky as most of my customers (a few of them boardsies......You know who ye are ) pay me going out the gate and I issue an invoice the next day or within days from that (usually first quiet day or day finished reasonably early) but there is are a few that like to delay payment. Herself does be sick of running to the bank in the summer

In this case my payments are well spread out so no issues then throughout the year and everyone's happy.

But I have found that the older generation like to leave all the work bundled to the end of the year where younger farmers pay as each piece of work is done.

Paying by bank transfer is handy

Bullocks

Lady Haywire wrote: »

Contractors who hold onto a cheque :mad::mad::mad:
Lodge the fcuking thing ffs.

Do a money transfer to them instead

wrangler

Reggie. wrote: »

Only thing I found is that you can be waiting between servings. I'm not fun to be around while hungry :rolleyes:

Very common there, I seem to be unfortunate there, seem to always get a freebie for some mistake, juries still out.
I don't want freebies, just want it right
New forest out the road is lovely

Reggie.

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Paying by bank transfer is handy

Yeah a few lads doing that now aswell. No running to the bank at all

orm0nd

Reggie. wrote: »

I'd say you were glad of that vulture at one stage

Not really. It took him 2 weeks to do about 4 or 5 day's work with a digger. He was outside the ditch from me and on hindsight I should have left him there. My regular guy was up the wall.

Reggie.

orm0nd wrote: »

Not really. It took him 2 weeks to do about 4 or 5 day's work with a digger. He was outside the ditch from me and on hindsight I should have left him there. My regular guy was up the wall.

The good lads always are

Reggie.

Morning jobs done. Van washed and cleaned. Time to hit the road to do some Christmas visits/drop offs