Height means success, nothing else matters

Conservatory

RhubarbCrumble wrote: »

It's the general consensus within the company, not just his opinion. I've met them both. They are arseholes. One referred to me as 'the little lady'. Slightly ironic given that I was wearing heels and was about 4 inches taller than him .....

You seem to be very defensive when it comes to being short yourself.

That’s the worse thing he done? Called you the little lady?

Do you just have a general dislike for short people?

panda100

Am 6'1 female and not successful in any aspect of life. Can this tall privilege think start working on me soon please?

Mrhuth

panda100 wrote: »

Am 6'1 female and not successful in any aspect of life. Can this tall privilege think start working on me soon please?

I just don't get it... How many times do I need to write that it is not in 100% of the cases?

IT DOES NOT APPLY TO 100% OF TALL PEOPLE.
IT DOES NOT APPLY TO 100% OF TALL PEOPLE.
IT DOES NOT APPLY TO 100% OF TALL PEOPLE.

Studies conducted by research organisations show that majority of upper management positions are occupied by people way above average height. It does not say that ALL management positions are occupied by tall people.

purpleisafruit

Richest people in the World
- Jeff Bezos (Amazon) 5' 7"
- Bill Gates (Microsoft) 5'10"
- Warren Buffet (Berkshire Hathaway) 5'10"
- Bernard Arnault (LVMH) 6'1"
- Mark Zuckerberg (Facebook) 5'7"
- Amancio Ortega (Zara) 5'8"
- Carlos Slim (America Movil) 5'8"
- Charles Koch (Koch Industries) 5'9"
- David Koch (Koch Industries) 6'5"
- Larry Ellison (Oracle) 6'3"

So 7 of the 10 wealthiest people in the world are 5'10" or shorter. In my company, none of the senior people are taller than 6'1" so from my experience, it means nothing.

super_furry

Oh look the red-pill incel gang have escaped again.

professore

There does seem to be a disproportionate number of big ****ers in higher management. The OP might be on to something.

As for the tall woman, I don't think it works the same way for women.

whisky_galore

professore wrote: »

As for the tall woman, I don't think it works the same way for women.

So much for the 'nothing else matters' bit then. Clearly something else matters.

dude_abided

I kind of get where the OP is coming from, there is an awkward height where you are not short or not tall. I'm 190cm so not quite 6'3 so for a while I fell into the same trap.

Its exacerbated by the fact that a lot of people do weight lifting or are just big frames. Lots of ex rugby players etc at senior levels.

Then I realised that 90% of my problem is with myself. My posture wasn't great, I didn't stand tall and proud, wasn't as confident.

Get yourself to the gym, get yourself to push yourself forward and quickly you'll see that height is irrelevant.

And will become even more now that we are moving on to a very happy clappy time in society, where overly masculine features are not exactly celebrated...

UsBus

[quote="Pintman Paddy Losty;. Not fluting about with test tubes.[/quote]

I sincerely hope this doesn't go on...ðŸ˜

Dakota Dan

Mrhuth wrote: »

These are only a few examples. Just look at the presidents of the United States. There were short ones but majority were way above average height.

How many of them were intelligently?

seamus

Depends on your definition of "success".

An extra £1,500 a year is worth nothing if it takes you away from your family for another 30 minutes a week.

I'd consider a bin man who has a comfortable life and gets to go home to his family at 2 o'clock without a care in the world, to be pretty damn successful.

Anyway, the answer to the OP is confidence.

jimgoose

Get back to work, you little bollix.

OldNotWIse

I'm 5 9, my boyfriend is 5 3 and he earns twice my salary :rolleyes:

OldNotWIse

Mrhuth wrote: »

In an office. Meetings of executive managers from multiple companies involve all of them being at least 6ft3. I feel like a dwarf and I am 6ft1

You are 6ft 1 and you feel like a dwarf because you are surrounded by people a whole 2 inches taller than you?

Kirby

OldNotWIse wrote: »

I'm 5 9, my boyfriend is 5 3 and he earns twice my salary :rolleyes:

Do you help him guard the pot of gold? :P

Fair play though to be honest. I don't know any women who date men shorter than them. It seems to be a deal breaker for a lot of folks but I always found it a silly reason to dismiss someone.

OldNotWIse

Kirby wrote: »

Do you help him guard the pot of gold? :P

Fair play though to be honest. I don't know any women who date men shorter than them. It seems to be a deal breaker for a lot of folks but I always found it a silly reason to dismiss someone.

Ah stop that's mean - we're all the same height lying down :P I don't really mind tbh, he is very broad and chunky so I'm happy!

Plus he doesn't mind me wearing heels. his height has never been an issue for him and I think that helps. I'm just hoping our future kids will be somewhere in between!

RhubarbCrumble

Conservatory wrote: »

That’s the worse thing he done? Called you the little lady?

Do you just have a general dislike for short people?

I'm 5'3". If anyone is hung up on shortness it's you.

Conservatory

RhubarbCrumble wrote: »

I'm 5'3". If anyone is hung up on shortness it's you.

It never comes into my line of thought ever. If somebody smaller than me is an ahole they are just an a hole if somebody bigger than me is they just are. It’s nothing to do with their size. I just find lanky people who arnt good at their job say a short person has small man syndrome and they find another reason to slag the boss if they arnt short.
You really should address your husbands performance in work if you want him to provide better for you. Entertaining the idea that he can come in and do what he likes and slag off people he can’t get along with isn’t helping him.

You keep alluding to the idea I’m short I’m probably averageish 5 ft 8 it’s never bothered me.

How Soon Is Now

I'm 6ft4 jesus i cant imagine what be like as an adult to be 5ft3!

Trigger Happy

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

I'm 6ft4 jesus i cant imagine what be like as an adult to be 5ft3!

Sore neck from looking up.

professore

OldNotWIse wrote: »

Ah stop that's mean - we're all the same height lying down :P I don't really mind tbh, he is very broad and chunky so I'm happy!

Plus he doesn't mind me wearing heels. his height has never been an issue for him and I think that helps. I'm just hoping our future kids will be somewhere in between!

He's 5'3" lying down too wink wink nudge nudge

professore

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

I'm 6ft4 jesus i cant imagine what be like as an adult to be 5ft3!

Cut off your legs

nuac

Napoleon?

.......

This post has been deleted.

I'm 4ft 11 and three quarter inches tall. I don't spend a lot of time thinking about it, it's never been a significant factor in anything I do other than get stuff off shelves and adjusting the drivers seat. If I felt it was holding me back I'd wear heels a lot more often than I do.

Your Face

I don't know about this.

All the top people in our organisation are a bit below average height.
When this is the case, people use the argument of them being successful to make up for being below average height.

The whole debate seems a bit false to me.

RhubarbCrumble

Conservatory wrote: »

You really should address your husbands performance in work if you want him to provide better for you.

WHAT are you actually talking about???

Conservatory

RhubarbCrumble wrote: »

WHAT are you actually talking about???

Two small fellas with small man syndrome are climbing the corporate ladder and buying their wives nice shoes while your husband is falling out with everybody and calling them names.

Maybe the boss called you the little lady because you were wearing penny’s flats.

jon1981

I'll play the diversity card so! Small people be represented!!!

Austria!

I've never thought it likely that short man syndrome was a thing, just that angry tall men don't have a "syndrome" someone can point to when they are assholes.

Anyway, being short is a big problem according to multiple studies, and it would take wilful ignorance to dispute that.

Personally I think all males should be given growth hormone as children if they are at risk of being short.

Pugzilla

Candie wrote: »

I'm 4ft 11 and three quarter inches tall. I don't spend a lot of time thinking about it, it's never been a significant factor in anything I do other than get stuff off shelves and adjusting the drivers seat. If I felt it was holding me back I'd wear heels a lot more often than I do.

Short women aren't stigmatised like short men.

Star Bingo

Pugzilla wrote: »

Short women aren't stigmatised like short men.

Don’t let it play on your mind jeez...

Yknow I usually just take these thread titles at face value n I’m sorry I even gave it wind. Stay humble or be humbled or some shít

DEFTLEFTHAND

seamus wrote: »

Depends on your definition of "success".

An extra £1,500 a year is worth nothing if it takes you away from your family for another 30 minutes a week.

I'd consider a bin man who has a comfortable life and gets to go home to his family at 2 o'clock without a care in the world, to be pretty damn successful.

Anyway, the answer to the OP is confidence.

Would you be a binman?

Franz Von Peppercorn

I’m worried about mark zuckerberg now.

Franz Von Peppercorn

And bill gates.

Franz Von Peppercorn

Jeff Bezos should be fired, all 5’7” of him.

Franz Von Peppercorn

Warren buffet is no beanpole.

Franz Von Peppercorn

Sergey Brin another midget.

whisky_galore

Austria! wrote: »

I've never thought it likely that short man syndrome was a thing, just that angry tall men don't have a "syndrome" someone can point to when they are assholes.

Anyway, being short is a big problem according to multiple studies, and it would take wilful ignorance to dispute that.

Personally I think all males should be given growth hormone as children if they are at risk of being short.

There are some advantages, like not having to fold oneself into a regular airline seat. They've barely changed the size of those in decades.

Wibbs

nuac wrote: »

Napoleon?

He was average height for a European at the time(5' 6" IIRC). The myth that he was short came about because his height was measured in French inches which are longer than English inches and because of propaganda from his enemies. Another aspect of it was his personal bodyguards were handpicked from the army for their above average height, so he would have looked smaller surrounded by them.

Beasty

I'm taller than anyone else in our office and probably get paid more than any of them. I'm about average height for an Admin though. Mods need to be over 5' 10", although it's difficult to verify whether they are getting round the rules

Did stop growing when I was 12 and age is taking it's toll - I'm down to just under 6' 1.5" now

somefeen

Probably got more to do with the confidence that being tall gives you.

Choronzon13

I'm 5'10" and apparently that makes me short in certain peoples eyes. Yet whenever I'm out in public most people seem to be roughly my height or shorter, with only a minority of people being taller.

Conservatory

Choronzon13 wrote: »

I'm 5'10" and apparently that makes me short in certain peoples eyes. Yet whenever I'm out in public most people seem to be roughly my height or shorter, with only a minority of people being taller.

Tall people have staff to go out in public for them.

steddyeddy

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

The best paid jobs are in finance and executive management. Not fluting about with test tubes or tapping away at a keyboard.

Which is a statement typifying the simplistic argument height = success.

Finance is full of people with degrees in physics and math. Biotechnology and pharmaceutical companies are increasingly being run and managed by scientists, not people with management degrees. Technology and output significantly improved when these complex companies moved away from big man = good leadership
= profit. I was working at the LMB in Cambridge last week meeting Nobel laureates who started their own multi-million pound businesses. Try giving a lecture there on the benefits of tall = success because many there were of below average height.

Galwayguy35

Bernie Ecclestone might disagree with you on that OP.

Austria!

steddyeddy wrote: »

I was working at the LMB in Cambridge last week meeting Nobel laureates who started their own multi-million pound businesses. Try giving a lecture there on the benefits of tall = success because many there were of below average height.

What is it about these Nobel Laureates that makes you think they would not be persuaded by the very clear evidence on the topic?





https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Height_discrimination

greencap

professore wrote: »

There does seem to be a disproportionate number of big ****ers in higher management. The OP might be on to something.

As for the tall woman, I don't think it works the same way for women.

Yeah, he's on to some statistical proof, its probably the rock solid reality, against which all individual cases, speculation and feelings are irrelevant, as the numbers will always prevail.

But with all that said, the real question is ...... omg. who. the hell. cares.


well...tall people derp di derp management positions and leadership and admiration .... okay and so what.

if I was applying for an upper management position against equally qualified candidates next week, and all my competition were above average height I might give a sht.

Seems BS to me. The vast majority of managers/directors I've had or known were of an average height. I'm 192 cm tall, and I've only known two managers/directors taller than me.

Pugzilla

A 1995 study found that 90% of Fortune 500 CEOs were above average in height, don't know if it's changed since then. Only 6 of 45 US presidents have had below average height.