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Calhoun

AllForIt wrote: »

I actually agree with some of the last few points made by Klaz and others. It's quite possible that those guys who beat up those other guys are in fact low life scumbags committed to sexual and gender equality for all and not in fact homophobic low life scumbags. We just don't know at this stage as there is no evidence either way.

On a serious note though aren't they some fu*king apes to hit a a person in the face with a hurl for whatever reason. They should be done for attempted murder, something I hope we could all agree on.

Apparently that estate is in one of the rougher parts of the town. Scum are scum and generally they will look for any reason to assert their alpha (while in a group) dominance.

Yes i would agree with you, random attacks need to be taken very seriously.

yesto24

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

you will have to excuse me if i dont take the opinion of somebody who posts ****e like the post below seriously

Well that's an easy way to avoid answering a question and feel superior at the same time.

yesto24

AllForIt wrote: »

I actually agree with some of the last few points made by Klaz and others. It's quite possible that those guys who beat up those other guys are in fact low life scumbags committed to sexual and gender equality for all and not in fact homophobic low life scumbags. We just don't know at this stage as there is no evidence either way.

On a serious note though aren't they some fu*king apes to hit a a person in the face with a hurl for whatever reason. They should be done for attempted murder, something I hope we could all agree on.

Or they could be somewhere in between like most people.

They are still scum.
And everyone in this thread is probably better than them.

LionelNashe

trick wrote: »

What was random about that?
I am a nurse ðŸ˜

That's ok, I'm a limo driver.

One eyed Jack

Probably worth pointing out in relation to the two lads that were attacked that the Gardaí are not investigating it as a homophobic attack, just random scumbags attacking random strangers for reasons known only to the scumbags who attacked them:

Portlaoise gardai have confirmed they are investigating an incident involving a number of people that happened at Harpur's Lane on June 10 at 2:40am. 

Gardai have taken four statements from witnesses and injured parties. Two people who were part of a group walking home on the night were injured with Collie suffering serious facial injuries. 

No arrests have been made and no statements have been taken from those suspected of carrying out the attack. Gardai are following a definite line of enquiry. 

The incident is not being investigated as a homophobic attack at this time but gardai are keeping an open mind on the matter.

Source: Leinster Express

yesto24

One eyed Jack wrote: »

Probably worth pointing out in relation to the two lads that were attacked that the Gardaí are not investigating it as a homophobic attack, just random scumbags attacking random strangers for reasons known only to the scumbags who attacked them:





Source: Leinster Express

You are only posting that because you are homophobic, as are the Portlaoise police.

ohnonotgmail

ohnonotgmail wrote:

Not everybody. But there does sure seem to be a lot of them on this thread. I blame our education system.

A lot of homophobes on this thread? Point them out so.

batgoat

batgoat wrote: »

You're taking bizarre lengths to ignore hate crime.

Well... so far nobody has proven that the crime was actually driven by hate or homophobia. The articles only state that the man was gay, and he was brutally attacked. No suggestion has even been made to say that the attackers made hate speech during the attack, or made any other gesture to show their hatred.

Until, you prove a connection between the crime and their sexuality or hate of any type, then it's simply a crime.

TBH, I'm wondering why some posters are so committed to make this a hate crime or a matter of homophobia.

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

why would i be tolerant of homophobia?

If a gay man is an asshole, insulting everyone around him, being offensive to others, and is attacked. Is the only reason possible for that attack because he was gay?

No, of course not. And to suggest it is not homophobia. It's common sense.

Gay people are not perfect individuals. The only real difference is sexual orientation, and they're just as likely to be idiots, as the rest of us. You seem to believe that any suggestion other than them being victims is homophobia. Frankly, you'd have a lot in common with extreme feminism.

AllForIt

AllForIt wrote: »

I actually agree with some of the last few points made by Klaz and others. It's quite possible that those guys who beat up those other guys are in fact low life scumbags committed to sexual and gender equality for all and not in fact homophobic low life scumbags. We just don't know at this stage as there is no evidence either way.

On a serious note though aren't they some fu*king apes to hit a a person in the face with a hurl for whatever reason. They should be done for attempted murder, something I hope we could all agree on.

The fact is that we don't know what these gay guys were doing before the attack or their reputation within the town itself. They could easily have made enemies due to their own behavior outside of being gay. We all know what small towns are like. The attackers could be of any background, and don't need to have been scumbags accustomed to behaving like this...

The guys who did the attack should be put away for a very long time. But they probably won't be.

ohnonotgmail , I'm curious... if the victims of this attack had been Jehovah witnesses, would you have considered this an attack due to religious hate? Or simply a brutal attack?

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

ohnonotgmail , I'm curious... if the victims of this attack had been Jehovah witnesses, would you have considered this an attack due to religious hate? Or simply a brutal attack?

or a straight white male

I blame the media trying to make this violent attack (before I "upset anyone" every violent attack is horrible no matter what race/gender/sexual orientation etc the victim is) "more juicer"

Cody montana

[Deleted User] wrote: »

ohnonotgmail , I'm curious... if the victims of this attack had been Jehovah witnesses, would you have considered this an attack due to religious hate? Or simply a brutal attack?

Were they attacked for being Jehovah witnesses or attacked randomly?

seachto7

Heard some guy introduce his radio show today with “happy pride”. Wtf?

Berserker

AllForIt wrote: »

On a serious note though aren't they some fu*king apes to hit a a person in the face with a hurl for whatever reason. They should be done for attempted murder, something I hope we could all agree on.

Waste of time bringing them to court. The troubled background line would be used and the judge would be forced to take pity on them and send them on some BS course, at our expense. ****ers like that need to do hard time, proper hard time.

Conservatory

Berserker wrote: »

Waste of time bringing them to court. The troubled background line would be used and the judge would be forced to take pity on them and send them on some BS course, at our expense. ****ers like that need to do hard time, proper hard time.

Oh matron.

Cody montana

seachto7 wrote: »

Heard some guy introduce his radio sos today with “happy pride”. Wtf?

Agreed, we don’t all live in Dublin.

seachto7

Cody montana wrote: »

Agreed, we don’t all live in Dublin.

I don’t see why he had to introduce his show with happy pride. I couldn’t care less about it... I don’t care who is gay or not.

Trasna1

Conservatory wrote: »

Issues facing them?
I had a discussion with a fellow builder about how great it was two lads walking by the site could safely walk up the street holding hands today.

Ten years ago people would have attacked them.

What issues do they have now?

Thirty or forty years ago maybe. Ten years ago the most it would get would be a funny look.

Cody montana

seachto7 wrote: »

I don’t see why he had to introduce his show with happy pride. I couldn’t care less about it... I don’t care who is gay or not.

So why do you care that he mentioned it?

Conservatory

Trasna1 wrote: »

Thirty or forty years ago maybe. Ten years ago the most it would get would be a funny look.

So no homophobic attacks really in the last ten years you are saying?

That’s great isn’t it?

seachto7

Cody montana wrote: »

You do you care that he mentioned it?

It’s irrelevent to the radio show.

Cody montana

seachto7 wrote: »

It’s irrelevent to the radio show.

Is it relevant to today?

Annasopra

Cody montana wrote: »

Is it relevant to today?

Yes

Cody montana

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Yes

I agree.

Faugheen

seachto7 wrote: »

It’s irrelevent to the radio show.

Would you ask the same question if said DJ said 'Happy St Patrick's Day' on March 17th?

Somehow I don't think so.

How Soon Is Now

Faugheen wrote: »

Would you ask the same question if said DJ said 'Happy St Patrick's Day' on March 17th?

Somehow I don't think so.

Patrick's day is a national holiday for the whole country. Pride isnt.

Only similarities they have is a parade.

seachto7

Faugheen wrote: »

Would you ask the same question if said DJ said 'Happy St Patrick's Day' on March 17th?

Somehow I don't think so.

Pride will be a bank holiday / national holiday next I suppose

Calhoun

seachto7 wrote: »

Pride will be a bank holiday / national holiday next I suppose

Damn straight, another day off. On one level though Pride in ways has probably more meaning to it than some of St Patricks day stuff.

How Soon Is Now

seachto7 wrote: »

Pride will be a bank holiday / national holiday next I suppose

I'm sure if Leo taught it could bag him few more votes he have had it sorted by now!

How Soon Is Now

Calhoun wrote: »

Damn straight, another day off. On one level though Pride in ways has probably more meaning to it than some of St Patricks day stuff.

For gay people.