New VHS Rental store in Liverpool

NewbridgeIR

Jerichoholic wrote: »

I can promise you the owners have beards.

Correct

Mrcaramelchoc

Mrcaramelchoc wrote: »

Why would you want to go from a Crystal clear picture back to a ****e one.

Because Analog can be a lot more interesting then digital sometimes. It catches different colors and tones, and its a different experience having something on film then digital. Its why the likes of The Hateful Eight was shot on film.
As with Vinyl records you can hear the impurities of the recording which often add instead of taking away from the artistic experience. Having everything perfectly manicured through a digital format is not always the ultimate experience.

TheValeyard

The one good thing of VHS. Skipping the piracy warning and commercial.

Mrcaramelchoc

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Because Analog can be a lot more interesting then digital sometimes. It catches different colors and tones, and its a different experience having something on film then digital. Its why the likes of The Hateful Eight was shot on film.
As with Vinyl records you can hear the impurities of the recording which often add instead of taking away from the artistic experience. Having everything perfectly manicured through a digital format is not always the ultimate experience.

That's hipster talk.

Dr Bob

NIMAN wrote: »

Who really wants to play Manic Miner these days?

https://touch.boards.ie/forum/94

Tom Mann Centuria

K.Flyer wrote: »

Would have given the idea more kudos had it been a Betamax venture.

We backed that horse back then. Picture quality and form factor far superior.
Trip to QQQ video. "Do you have this film in Betamax?"
No
"How about this one?"
No
"Do you think you'll be getting this one in Betamax when it's released?"
No


At school.
Yeah I saw that video nasty on a pirate video, I'll lend you it.
"Do you have a Betamax copy?"
*laughter* Loser, no.


At home.
"Dad, can we get a VHS player, QQQ video isn't stocking Betamax tapes any more"
No


/too boring didn't read. Betamax scarred me for life, now let us never speak of it again.

mloc123

To replicate the VHS experience just watch any movie that TV3 show... the horribly low-res compressed image will bring those childhood memories back

Mrcaramelchoc

Mrcaramelchoc wrote: »

That's hipster talk.

Better dumb myself down a bit so to avoid that tag.

WhiteMemento9

Mrcaramelchoc wrote: »

Why would you want to go from a Crystal clear picture back to a ****e one.

This will obviously flop as an idea but I never got the crystal clear picture thing. Low-res is horrible but I think a happy medium exists. I remember watching some fantasy thing. I forget the name now. It was in that crystal clear, high definition, ultra-realistic, reach out and touch it stuff. It completely broke any spell of being able to drift into a fantasy reality. It looked too real and I remember watching as a group of some wizards and the like climbed a mountain and just laughing as my brain registered it as just a bunch of men dressed up in costumes having a laugh. People who have used virtual reality have all been saying something similar. In the more cartoon stuff, it is easier for your brain to play along and get lost in the world. The tipping point for the VR stuff is when your brain can't tell the difference between this reality and the one you slip into.

Jerichoholic

Deleted User wrote: »

Because Analog can be a lot more interesting then digital sometimes. It catches different colors and tones, and its a different experience having something on film then digital. Its why the likes of The Hateful Eight was shot on film.
As with Vinyl records you can hear the impurities of the recording which often add instead of taking away from the artistic experience. Having everything perfectly manicured through a digital format is not always the ultimate experience.

Also nearly every film was forced to zoom in to 5:4 ratio when transferred to video.

It was absolutely not good in any way.

Sad Professor

WhiteMemento9 wrote: »

This will obviously flop as an idea but I never got the crystal clear picture thing. I remember watching some fantasy thing. I forget the name now. It was in that crystal clear, high definition, ultra-realistic, reach out and touch it stuff. It completely broke any spell of being able to drift into a fantasy reality. It looked too real and I remember watching as a group of some wizards and the like were climbing a mountain and just laughing as my brain registered it as just a bunch of men dressed up in costumes having a laugh. People who have used virtual reality have all been saying something similar. In the more cartoon stuff, it is easier for your brain to play along and get lost in the world. The tipping point for that stuff is when you brain can't tell the difference.

Just to point out, with older films this is usually the result of bad encodes and masters that scrub away all the natural grain which would have maintained that dream-like feeling you describe. As shot and shown in the cinema, they wouldn't have looked that clear. The Predator Blu-ray is an infamous example of this.

Newer films shot on digital are another matter. The Hobbit is a pretty egregious example of how HD and higher frame rates can break the spell of a fantasy world.

pixelburp

Whatever about vinyl records having a different range etc, I find it hard to believe VHS offers some unique visual range. I daresay if you asked 100 directors (or indeed, DPs) for their thoughts on the video cassette and what visual eccentricities it offers, they'd probably laugh at you. Especially those who shot on 35mm film and so on...

Though speaking of visual clarity, it's funny to watch some of those early-days films shot on digital; they look bloody terrible now. That lot fidelity digital look really aging quite badly.

I have quite a few VHS around the place, generally, they are for films which have never made the jump to DVD or Blu-Ray but rather than watch them back on an actual VHS player I've ripped most of them and did a bit of work on cleaning up the image as no matter how you try and dress it up, VHS is an awful format. With Vinyl the appeal is obvious though that said most modern vinyl releases are the same as the CD and digital versions making it kind of pointless in most cases. VHS has always been shit and there's no warmth or nostalgia associated with it.

WhiteMemento9

Sad Professor wrote: »

Just to point out, with older films this is usually the result of bad encodes and masters that scrub away all the natural grain which would have maintained that dream-like feeling you describe. As shot and shown in the cinema, they wouldn't have looked that clear. The Predator Blu-ray is an infamous example of this.

Newer films shot on digital are another matter. The Hobbit is a pretty egregious example of how HD and higher frame rates can break the spell of a fantasy world.

Funny, it was The Hobbit that I was searching for the name of and couldn't find.

It only comes into play in fantasy stuff I think although I haven't thought about it too deeply. Stuff like Space which we know to be real and awe-inspiring my brain can get on board with seeing that in the most realistic way possible.

McLoughlin

Some films were edited or altered when released on DVD/Blu like Star Wars, ET, Muppet Christmas Carol so if you want to see those films how they were originally seen you would need to watch them on VHS.

Sad Professor

In analog terms, I think the closest film equivalent to vinyl would be 16mm prints of movies, such as those distributed to libraries etc before home video technology existed. But obviously they are no longer produced and would be prohibitively expensive to collect.

Technocentral

Sad Professor wrote: »

In analog terms, I think the closest film equivalent to vinyl would be 16mm prints of movies, such as those distributed to libraries etc before home video technology existed. But obviously they are no longer produced and would be prohibitively expensive to collect.

I love vinyl, its 35mm not 16mm imo.

WhiteMemento9

I think another angle is people love the whole idea of VHS and miss it. The whole experience of rooting around a shop trying to discover something new. Adding the fluid as someone posted and all the other bits that went with that era. It was all part of the experience. Clicking a button instantly having something playing that was suggested you would like while great for the consumption of the media has little value in the experience outside of the media if that makes sense.

Tony EH

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There was a certain aesthetic, for want of a better word, to going to a video shop and spending a while picking out a film to watch. There was something special about those lurid 80's video covers and the large boxes that appealed.

It never really transferred to the DVD age and when streaming came in, it really was the end.

But that's kinda the problem with the human condition isn't it? We love the idea of convenience, but when we achieve it we miss the old days where we had to put a bit of energy into what we did, because the result felt better.

These days, I can sift through a ton of films online and I never get the feeling that I want to watch any of it.

During the video days, I'd want to rent half the bloody shop.

Husker Du

Two brilliant posts ^. Sums it up perfectly.

I have everything I could want to watch at my finger tips, but I rarely do.

I'd actually love to have to go to a shop on the chance they have something I want to rent or ask them to hold it when it comes back.

Also back in the 80's and 90's there wasn't much news in terms of release schedules. The anticipation and the possibility of renting something like the latest Die Hard or Friday the 13th was great.

WhiteMemento9

If you dare talk about these things being real pleasures in life that have been lost in an age of convenience which has happened without us understanding it diminishes our overall enjoyment of life, you are called a hipster :P

Mrcaramelchoc

I remember we had a vcr ,that when you pressed eject the drawer(place where you inserted the video) would rise up.sometimes that drawer got stuck and it took a few goes to get it to open.

Sure enough myself and my friend obtained a blue movie one evening.we started to watch it when we noticed my fathers car pulling up the drive.i nearly **** in my pants because the drawer would not open after numerous presses of the button.
My father's key turned in the door and the drawer rose up to save our 16 year old necks.
I don't miss vhs : )

Tony EH

WhiteMemento9 wrote: »

If you dare talk about these things being real pleasures in life that have been lost in an age of convenience which has happened without us understanding it diminishes our overall enjoyment of life, you are called a hipster

Well, there's a difference between hipsters and old people.

Old people like to remember something they did years ago, for nostalgic reasons.

Hipsters do it today, because they think it makes them look cool.

WhiteMemento9

Tony EH wrote: »

Well, there's a difference between hipsters and old people.

Old people like to remember something they did years ago, for nostalgic reasons.

Hipsters do it today, because they think it makes them look cool.

No, you think they do it because they think it makes them look cool. That is a judgment you have made with your eyes without knowing the person. I'm sure a certain portion of them do it for those reasons but I KNOW many do it just because they enjoy doing those things. Just because you don't understand the pleasure they derive from certain things you make sense of it by saying things like the above.

Jerichoholic

I've seen hipsters using old fashioned typewriters in cafés and I've seen some listening to grammaphones, which is another level of pretentious. They are just looking for attention, nothing more.

Dr Brown

The only old video format worth bringing back is Laser Disc.

WhiteMemento9

Jerichoholic wrote: »

I've seen hipsters using old fashioned typewriters in cafés and I've seen some listening to grammaphones, which is another level of pretentious. They are just looking for attention, nothing more.

Lines and all that but how the hell missing the experience that the whole video era provided is seen as hipster is what we are talking about.

Jerichoholic

The point is, why use something inferior when it's easier to use something normal? Video shop experience is terrible compared to Netflix. At least Netflix will have the movie you are after and not have them all out on rental.

pixelburp

Yeah, I think there are some serious rose tinted spectacles over the experience of the Video Shop. Between the lack of stock, crumpled tape, or those that did work not properly rewound - hell just wondering if the damn VHS tape will work - it was a tedious experience. And the video quality was, and will always remain, muck.

God the hours spent using head cleaner 'cos your VCR was skipping the video like it was having a fit. The tapes even had a weird, slightly unpleasant smell, it must have been the magnetic tape mixed with the plastic.

Netflix has its own issues, but pining after an archaic, inferior, fussy technology like VHS is a bit ... weird

WhiteMemento9

Jerichoholic wrote: »

The point is, why use something inferior when it's easier to use something normal? Video shop experience is terrible compared to Netflix. At least Netflix will have the movie you are after and not have them all out on rental.

Because I enjoy the other experience? I like getting out and doing stuff. Maybe you think it is terrible which is perfectly fine. I love rummaging around a shop, looking at the different covers, reading the back for a bit of info. I hugely enjoy the connection of talking to the guy behind the counter about what I have rented. Loads of other stuff too.

Netflix as a way to consume things is far superior but while really liking the medium I enjoy all of the other stuff too. Simple pleasures in life can sometimes be the best ones. We now think about that as times wasted and how we could be using it more productively.

WhiteMemento9

pixelburp wrote: »

Yeah, I think there are some serious rose tinted spectacles over the experience of the Video Shop. Between the lack of stock, crumpled tape, or those that did work not properly rewound - hell just wondering if the damn VHS tape will work - it was a tedious experience. And the video quality was, and will always remain, muck.

God the hours spent using head cleaner 'cos your VCR was skipping the video like it was having a fit. The tapes even had a weird, slightly unpleasant smell, it must have been the magnetic tape mixed with the plastic.

Netflix has its own issues, but pining after an archaic, inferior, fussy technology like VHS is a bit ... weird

I still get some of this buying books today and I would far prefer to pay the price in the shop to have all the experience that goes with it then save money and click buy it online. Not always, but often. I like convenience too at times.

Jerichoholic

Well enjoy it while it lasts.

WhiteMemento9

Jerichoholic wrote: »

Well enjoy it while it lasts.

Ready Player One, here we come.

briany

Jerichoholic wrote: »

The point is, why use something inferior when it's easier to use something normal? Video shop experience is terrible compared to Netflix. At least Netflix will have the movie you are after and not have them all out on rental.

The Atari 2600: The graphics are crap, the controls are crap, the sound is crap, the gameplay is basic and the stories are almost non-existent. Everything about the Atari 2600 is crappy when you compare it to what we have in 2018, and yet you'll find a community of people out there who are enthusiastic about that console and its games. And the same is true for many old gaming platforms. There's usually very little about them that is objectively better than current technology. Still many people out there into them, though.

I suppose the point I'm making, here, is that you give any outmoded technology about 15-20 years, and you'll see some sort of spike in its use or demand once again, and it's not really a demand predicated on practicality. It's not necessarily about looking cool, either. It could as easily be about nostalgia or recapturing a certain feeling or aesthetic. There's certainly a community out there into the old VHS stuff (watch the documentary Adjust Your Tracking about VHS collectors for evidence of this), although I don't know if enough of these enthusiasts live in Liverpool or the surrounding area to keep this particular shop afloat.

Jerichoholic

briany wrote: »

The Atari 2600: The graphics are crap, the controls are crap, the sound is crap, the gameplay is basic and the stories are almost non-existent. Everything about the Atari 2600 is crappy when you compare it to what we have in 2018, and yet you'll find a community of people out there who are enthusiastic about that console and its games. And the same is true for many old gaming platforms. There's usually very little about them that is objectively better than current technology. Still many people out there into them, though.

I suppose the point I'm making, here, is that you give any outmoded technology about 15-20 years, and you'll see some sort of spike in its use or demand once again, and it's not really a demand predicated on practicality. It's not necessarily about looking cool, either. It could as easily be about nostalgia or recapturing a certain feeling or aesthetic. There's certainly a community out there into the old VHS stuff (watch the documentary Adjust Your Tracking about VHS collectors for evidence of this), although I don't know if enough of these enthusiasts live in Liverpool or the surrounding area to keep this particular shop afloat.

The thing is, VHS tapes are the exact same movies you can get in perfect HD now. VHS looks like absolute trash nowadays. Why would you willfully watch something on purpose with ****ty washed out, worn out quality.

Games are completely non related.

briany

Jerichoholic wrote: »

The thing is, VHS tapes are the exact same movies you can get in perfect HD now. VHS looks like absolute trash nowadays. Why would you willfully watch something on purpose with ****ty washed out, worn out quality.

Games are completely non related.

Games are an apt comparison to illustrate how people will still opt to use and enjoy something that is completely inferior to modern offerings. Retro gaming is quite acceptable in mainstream culture, so why not the interest in other types of old media? Yes, VHS picture quality is objectively worse than a HD video from today, but some people enjoy the grainy, gooey picture quality for certain films. I'm not about to stick in a VHS cassette to watch the original Halloween, but I can see how the relative grunginess of that might be a curious enhancement to the atmosphere. Very much the same way as colour film should be better than black and white in every way, given the greater palette, but this is not always true. Black and white is sometimes just better to put you in a certain frame of mind.

johnny_ultimate

VHS is mostly a redundant format rightly relegated to the dustbin of history. Still, in the right hands, the aesthetic of grainy, inconsistent image quality and the fragility of tape still has its uses... Ringu would never be as frightening if the curse was a DVD. Something like No uses the video look to place the film in a very specific time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGOcFPzx1H0

Sad Professor

briany wrote: »

Games are an apt comparison to illustrate how people will still opt to use and enjoy something that is completely inferior to modern offerings. Retro gaming is quite acceptable in mainstream culture, so why not the interest in other types of old media? Yes, VHS picture quality is objectively worse than a HD video from today, but some people enjoy the grainy, gooey picture quality for certain films. I'm not about to stick in a VHS cassette to watch the original Halloween, but I can see how the relative grunginess of that might be a curious enhancement to the atmosphere. Very much the same way as colour film should be better than black and white in every way, given the greater palette, but this is not always true. Black and white is sometimes just better to put you in a certain frame of mind.

You could probably make this argument for old tv shows (even ones shot on 35mm) where there was no expectation that that they would be viewed on anything larger than a 20 inch CRT television - but not films which were never designed to be watched on VHS.

I understand the appeal of vinyl and retro games. And VHS may appeal to some people for the same reasons, but they are deeply misguided reasons because VHS was always a very poor imitation of the original theatrical experience that movies were meant to be seen in.

I think most people get this which is why a VHS revival ain't gonna happen.

Jerichoholic

Vinyl sounds good, some old games are still good. VHS copies of films are not good when you have Blu Ray or 1080p streaming versions of the same films.

Sad Professor

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

VHS is mostly a redundant format rightly relegated to the dustbin of history. Still, in the right hands, the aesthetic of grainy, inconsistent image quality and the fragility of tape still has its uses... Ringu would never be as frightening if the curse was a DVD. Something like No uses the video look to place the film in a very specific time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGOcFPzx1H0

I thought the VHS aesthetic in No was unnecessary but at least Larraín went all in and shot it using old video cameras. I really hate what Trier did to Breaking the Waves in post-production, especially since that seems to have been quite nicely shot.

WhiteMemento9

Sad Professor wrote: »

You could probably make this argument for old tv shows (even ones shot on 35mm) where there was no expectation that that they would be viewed on anything larger than a 20 inch CRT television - but not films which were never designed to be watched on VHS.

I understand the appeal of vinyl and retro games. And VHS may appeal to some people for the same reasons, but they are deeply misguided reasons because VHS was always a very poor imitation of the original theatrical experience that movies were meant to be seen in.

I think most people get this which is why a VHS revival ain't gonna happen.

You thinking you know what other people should like is the misguided thing in this post. Pleasure is a strange animal. It means completely different things to different people. One mans trash is another mans Mona Lisa. See sexual nature of people in all its weird, wonderful and strange nature to see what motivates people is completely different.

Tony EH

WhiteMemento9 wrote: »

No, you think they do it because they think it makes them look cool. That is a judgment you have made with your eyes without knowing the person. I'm sure a certain portion of them do it for those reasons but I KNOW many do it just because they enjoy doing those things. Just because you don't understand the pleasure they derive from certain things you make sense of it by saying things like the above.

No need to get rattled.

If someone is genuinely enjoying something and not just doing it "to be seen doing it" or "to be cool"...then they're not really a hipster, are they?

When people say hipster, they mean a faker, or someone who does something because it's trendy to do it...and there's plenty of them about.

Sad Professor

WhiteMemento9 wrote: »

You thinking you know what other people should like is the misguided thing in this post. Pleasure is a strange animal. It means completely different things to different people. One mans trash is another mans Mona Lisa. See sexual nature of people in all its weird, wonderful and strange nature to see what motivates people is completely different.

And that's great. Like whatever you like, whether its weird kinky sex or renting VHS tapes of popular movies, I don't care. I was responding specifically to briany's argument that watching movies on VHS is similar to the appeal of retro video games or watching a film shot in black & white. It's not. Black & white films and first person scrollers were designed around their technological limitations, where as VHS tapes of films were never anything but a poor quality imitation of seeing a film projected in 35mm - that's the retro form of media people should be trying to revive rather than VHS tapes.

WhiteMemento9

Tony EH wrote: »

No need to get rattled.

If someone is genuinely enjoying something and not just doing it "to be seen doing it" or "to be cool"...then they're not really a hipster, are they?

When people say hipster, they mean a faker, or someone who does something because it's trendy to do it...and there's plenty of them about.

I'm not sure what the rattled comment is about but anyway. It just seems like that judgment about people has become a very popular way for people to make themselves feel better, they see someone acting a certain way which they think is pretentious or faking without ever actually talking to that person so they like to call them names without any understanding. I don't find much reason in judging what other people do unless it is hurting themselves or people around them.

WhiteMemento9

Sad Professor wrote: »

And that's great. Like whatever you like, whether its weird kinky sex or renting VHS tapes of popular movies, I don't care. I was responding specifically to briany's argument that watching movies on VHS is similar to the appeal of retro video games or watching a film shot in black & white. It's not. Black & white films and first person scrollers were designed around their technological limitations, where as VHS tapes of films were never anything but a poor quality imitation of seeing a film projected in 35mm - that's the retro form of media people should be trying to revive rather than VHS tapes.

You are making all those assumptions from the brain that you live in. Try living inside someone else for a day and come back to me. Oh wait . . . .

Tony EH

briany wrote: »

The Atari 2600: The graphics are crap, the controls are crap, the sound is crap, the gameplay is basic and the stories are almost non-existent. Everything about the Atari 2600 is crappy when you compare it to what we have in 2018, and yet you'll find a community of people out there who are enthusiastic about that console and its games. And the same is true for many old gaming platforms. There's usually very little about them that is objectively better than current technology. Still many people out there into them, though.

I suppose the point I'm making, here, is that you give any outmoded technology about 15-20 years, and you'll see some sort of spike in its use or demand once again, and it's not really a demand predicated on practicality. It's not necessarily about looking cool, either. It could as easily be about nostalgia or recapturing a certain feeling or aesthetic. There's certainly a community out there into the old VHS stuff (watch the documentary Adjust Your Tracking about VHS collectors for evidence of this), although I don't know if enough of these enthusiasts live in Liverpool or the surrounding area to keep this particular shop afloat.

There's a difference though.

The Atari, megadrive, Speccy, or whatever are of their time. The graphics weren't ever going to get better and the game will always play the same. That type of gaming was the best the format was.

VHS, on the other hand, was just always a poor format that bastardised the original source. It took high definition film and reduced it to mush. Not only that, it sounded poorer than it's source and also, it generally cropped that source from 2.35:1 or 1.85:1 down to an awfully shaped 4:3.

In other words, the retro games were the actual source material, never going to get better, never going to get worse. Video was a vastly reduced product of an original source.

Not only that, video tape looks absolutely WOEFUL on modern large format TV's. They were fine enough on contemporary CRT sets. But, on today's 50 inch LED's etc, they're a swampy mess.

Put it this way, 'Jetpac' on the Spectrum, or C64 will always look like that. Because that was the way the game was designed to look and play. But, if you compare 'Jaws' on a panned and scanned VHS to 'Jaws' on Blu-ray. There's only one clear winner.

WhiteMemento9

Why people always come back to the bloody logic of why something is better is beyond my comprehension. Many things in this world are completely and utterly illogical. Sam Harris talking about free will is a good start.

Tony EH

WhiteMemento9 wrote: »

I'm not sure what the rattled comment is about but anyway.

Your post sounded very defensive.

WhiteMemento9 wrote: »

It just seems like that judgment about people has become a very popular way for people to make themselves feel better, they see someone acting a certain way which they think is pretentious or faking without ever actually talking to that person so they like to call them names without any understanding. I don't find much reason in judging what other people do unless it is hurting themselves or people around them.

I'm not sure it's about people making "themselves feel better". It's about recognising that there are folk about that pursue a fake caché and exude a fake charisma. These people most definitely exist in very real terms.

That doesn't mean that someone who genuinely enjoys something that is leftfield or whatever automatically falls into this category.

However, when you see some lad huffing and puffing up a hill on a fixie that he paid a fortune for, in a Ronnie Drew beard and a top knot...more than likely, he thinks he looks "cool".

WhiteMemento9

Tony EH wrote: »

Your post sounded very defensive.

I personally think video quality is awful but I also haven't lived inside another person so I can only make that judgment from my understanding, experience, brain etc. I know it is entirely possible that a person gets a complete different experience from VHS. How is that defensive?

Tony EH wrote: »

I'm not sure it's about people making "themselves feel better". It's about recognising that there are folk about that pursue a fake caché and exude a fake charisma. These people most definitely exist in very real terms.

That doesn't mean that someone who genuinely enjoys something that is leftfield or whatever automatically falls into this category.

However, when you see some lad huffing and puffing up a hill on a fixie that he paid a fortune for, in a Ronnie Drew beard and a top knot...more than likely, he thinks he looks "cool".

I don't really care what he thinks or how he looks or what he doing. I hope he is happy and doing things he enjoys is all.

I do care now if he hurting others as I said, otherwise let him at it.

Its very easy to dismiss anothers opinion as hipster because its not to your taste but its pretty lame if you ask me when you can make any number of arguments as to why VHS is not a good format without resorting to the cheap insult, which calling someone a Hipster essentially is. If theres a few lads who are Hipsters doing Hipster ****, let them at it, otherwise you are gonna have lobby groups for hipsters, and referendums for hipsters before too long.

I will stick by my guns that some films are more appealing to me in the VHS tone. I have an extensive collection of hundreds of VHS tapes collected from the age of about 10. (My copy of Wrong Bet is black and white for some reason, and I would not watch it in any other format) Original cases with the first cover print and stuff like that. I would dig out stuff like Shivers or Eraserhead or the original Omen and much prefer to immerse myself into that older grainier version of those films then on a crystal clear format. Maybe its easier to believe, especially when you have special effects instead of CGI. Special effects can get by a hell of a lot easier.

As someone who used to record a lot of music for film in my college years, I often found my production mistakes could often turn out to enhance what I was trying to do. Might sound weird but, but I feel like theres ways flaws and imperfections can increase the experience. Thats what is happening with analog vinyl. The imperfections improve the experience, it feels more raw, it doesn't feel manicured. Maybe thats just a personal thing, but there is no way anyone can convince me that there is not some films out there where the experience is more enjoyable on a VHS then a cleaner digital picture.
But then again I hate people like Neymar with a vengeance, and all the kids love him despite his ultra manicured personality and antics. So I am pretty dated.