They're Alive!!!

blackcard

blackcard wrote: »

Is that confirmed that the weakest went first? I saw another report that the strongest were taken out first

During the rescue yesterday, it was reported that it was the weakest first.

Bainneban

I originally read weakest first and then today I read strongest first.....hard to say really. If the strongest came out first it would give weaker more time to practice possibly but unlikely the case.

inforfun

blackcard wrote: »

Is that confirmed that the weakest went first? I saw another report that the strongest were taken out first

Probably a lot lost in translation as well.

As i read that they took the ones who were most ready first.
Which makes sense as none of them could swim, they had to learn how to "dive". So the ones who picked that up the fastest go first and give the others more practice time.

_Dara_

Poochie05 wrote: »

CNN reporting that operations are stopped for the day to allow divers to rest and depleted oxygen levels in the cave to recover.

I know that 21% oxygen is optimal and that levels had dropped to 15% where the boys are a few days ago. Have levels dropped further? At what level do things become critical?

anewme

Reati wrote: »

Did they somehow interfere with the rescue?

Any risks to the rescue in any way should be avoided.

People and media were asked to leave the scene due to the complexity of the rescue.Drones flying over an Emergency scene or media listening in on confidential recordings are only getting in the way

The Authorites felt it was negative enough to comment on.

wexie

_Dara_ wrote: »

I know that 21% oxygen is optimal and that levels had dropped to 15% where the boys are a few days ago. Have levels dropped further? At what level do things become critical?

12% I think.

I'm pretty sure though I remember reading somewhere they were taking steps to improve the air quality in the cave.

PCX

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Isn't that called a 'draegar' or something?

I heard they can be really dangerous to use. I've heard some horror stories regarding them.

Normally just called a rebreather or closed-circuit rebreather. Draeger is a brand name i.e. like hoover is a type of vacuum cleaner.

Rebreathers certainly need extra training to use above normal (open circuit) scuba gear and would not be the 1st choice for rescues in this situation.

RIGOLO

Page down a bit on the sky feed and you can see a truck arriving from BIGTH.COM with many gas tanks on board...  BIGTH just happen to by Thai's largest producer of compressed gas products all to a high quality.  So it aint just local compressors they are relying on. 
https://news.sky.com/story/live-race-to-save-boys-trapped-in-thai-cave-11428960
Demonstrating theres a few hundred people involved at all sorts of levels and capacities in getting this sort of logistical effort to work. 
Looks to have been a dry day in the region, I didnt see a puddle or drop of rain indicating a recent fall in any of the broadcasts today. Id hope the pumps were still operating during the rescue , and this can only help tomorrows push.

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Ahhh wasnt one little lad looking for fried chicken.

Bless.

HappySerious

8 out now...really hope they are all ok and make it to see World cup final in person.

riemann

Giblet wrote: »

He certainly did more than most of the commentators.

He did the exact same as most of us, nothing.

Only difference being we didn't pretend to do anything, but his pr stunt probably gained him a few more twitter followers.

Giblet

riemann wrote: »

He did the exact same as most of us, nothing.

Only difference being we didn't pretend to do anything, but his pr stunt probably gained him a few more twitter followers.

Jesus you must have some hard-on for the lad, I just saw his submarine, and concluded "Yep, that's something alright".

anewme

riemann wrote: »

He did the exact same as most of us, nothing.

Only difference being we didn't pretend to do anything, but his pr stunt probably gained him a few more twitter followers.

Did he not offer and send the support of his (highly qualified) engineers to assist?

This rescue has involved all that is positive in the world any ANYONE who helped in ANY small way is to be highly commended.

It is a positive story and shows what can be achieved through Teamwork goodwill and support, without negativity, backstabbing and bitching.

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Apparently they have to be fed very carefully, and gradually, rather than living like a king.....

I somehow doubt they'll be able to go to the WCF on Sunday.......they'll be in hospital for a bit and family members can't even touch them at present.

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ebbsy

3 more British divers have arrived, the others must be in bits at this point.

branie2

Great news

blackcard

ebbsy wrote: »

3 more British divers have arrived, the others must be in bits at this point.

What is the length of the working day of the divers? Do they go in and out on the same day? How do they manage for food? Surely all 5 remaining in the cave will be rescued tomorrow?

Ken.

Mod-weldoninhio's thread ban lifted. Please don't report him/her when they post.

Ipso

I really don't know how those kids were able to go through with the diving involved in getting out. They must be made of some stuff.

iamwhoiam

Ipso wrote: »

I really don't know how those kids were able to go through with the diving involved in getting out. They must be made of some stuff.

Definetely .But they also have youth on their side which gives them the edge as they do not anticipate danger as much as still have a youthful sense of invincibility . Well done to all the boys for being brave and trusting the rescuers

begbysback

If I had one wish today it would be that when I wake tomorrow I read that all 5 remaining got out safely, and those who have assisted in any way also return safely to their families.

Nermal

Ipso wrote: »

I really don't know how those kids were able to go through with the diving involved in getting out. They must be made of some stuff.

The pumping appears to have cut the diving distance to 30m horizontally. It's still an amazing feat to bring an untrained child safely through that. When I heard initial reports of multi-hour dives I thought they didn't have a chance.

ebbsy

blackcard wrote: »

ebbsy wrote: »

3 more British divers have arrived, the others must be in bits at this point.

What is the length of the working day of the divers? Do they go in and out on the same day? How do they manage for food? Surely all 5 remaining in the cave will be rescued tomorrow?

Well they have to go get the kids and then come back. Remember one of them will be carrying the kids tank as well.

I would say tomorrow will finish it.

acai berry

Getting to the ledge seems like a day's work for the divers and then coming out with the children seems like another day's work - all in one day. It's amazing.

Hopefully tomorrow will finsh it.

pleas advice

riemann wrote: »

He did the exact same as most of us, nothing.

Only difference being we didn't pretend to do anything, but his pr stunt probably gained him a few more twitter followers.

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arybvtcw0eolkf

I haven't went through the whole thread, so this may already have been said.

But those divers involved in the rescue must be singularly the bravest people in the world right now.

I've seen all sorts of bravery, but nothing comes close to this. I'm blown away by it.

Roger Hassenforder

They should never have to put their hands in their pocket for a drink again.

acai berry

Tomas Crashing Seesaw wrote: »

I haven't went through the whole thread, so this may already have been said.

But those divers involved in the rescue must be singularly the bravest people in the world right now.

I've seen all sorts of bravery, but nothing comes close to this. I'm blown away by it.

Well put, Tomas Crashing Seesaw! Considering a life has been lost already, it emphasises how much these guys are putting their own lives at risk. The physical endurance they must have to go through during these lengthy rescues, is beyond words. Once they dive in, they must keep going for hours and hours, until mission accomplished, as there is no turning back or being rescued themselves. Truly, they must be the bravest in the world.

FrancieBrady

Just thinking and wondering if they brought down footage on a phone of the boys who made it out. Might calm down any one who was panicky about the ordeal ahead.

theyoungchap

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Just thinking and wondering if they brought down footage on a phone of the boys who made it out. Might calm down any one who was panicky about the ordeal ahead.

I'm sure they told them they made it out. They were being trained how to dive so I suspect when the time came they were ready for action.

Sam Quentin

I think we're all praying to the rain God.

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2018-07-10/thai-cave-rescue-rain-god/9961934?pfmredir=sm

It's morning in Chiang Rai and it's bucketed down all night. Today's might not be quite as easy.

Discodog

The rescue has restarted this morning & they are planning to bring the remaining boys & their coach out today. Apparently an Australian doctor is giving them sedatives before they dive to reduce any risk of panic.

Tilikum17

We will celebrate'
The Thai Navy Seals have confirmed that today's mission will take longer than usual, but say they remain hopeful the operation will end today, saying everyone would "celebrate together

Tilikum17

With all this rain the weakests boy will have the toughest journey, no?
Please let them all out safely.

Discodog

Tilikum17 wrote: »

With all this rain the weakests boy will have the toughest journey, no?
Please let them all out safely.

I think that it will go smoothly. They have a well worked routine & it will only take longer because they have an extra person plus the doctor & rescuers that have been staying with the boys.

dr.fuzzenstein

Discodog wrote: »

The rescue has restarted this morning & they are planning to bring the remaining boys & their coach out today. Apparently an Australian doctor is giving them sedatives before they dive to reduce any risk of panic.

I'd be worried about that. Saw a special on that on N24 here last night and several diving experts said it would be better if the boys were alert and able to react to the situation.
If they are sedated and not fully alert, they might not be able to react quickly enough to difficult situations.
I would tend to agree with that and I hope the boys aren't too stoned when they're being taken out.
But so far everyone has made it (apart from the unfortunate diver RIP), so they're doing it right it would appear.

RIGOLO

CNN had an extensive weather report on the area just now. 
There was some rainfall overnight, but currently the days forecast is for sunny spells, although that heat can create its own rain accumulation. And as others have pointed out rain storms can appear quite quickly.
But for now the onsite reports the weather looks good, with some wet underfoot from the overnight rain.
All in all they have been lucky. 
Rainfall July 1-9 2018 has only been 20mm , in the same period in 2017 it was 130mm  and has even been upto 200mm in 2015. 
So far the rains have not been as intensive as normal. 
But further rain is forecast for Wed and Thur, so today really looks like the last chance in this weather window.

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inforfun

Buddhaspeed then surely

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acai berry

Prayers! I'm a bit worried about the use of sedatives on the boys. Hopes it works out perfectly.

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Antar Bolaeisk

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

I'd be worried about that. Saw a special on that on N24 here last night and several diving experts said it would be better if the boys were alert and able to react to the situation.
If they are sedated and not fully alert, they might not be able to react quickly enough to difficult situations.
I would tend to agree with that and I hope the boys aren't too stoned when they're being taken out.
But so far everyone has made it (apart from the unfortunate diver RIP), so they're doing it right it would appear.

Probably a balancing act, if they're too panicky then they'll eat through their oxygen and, although they've seeded the place with spare tanks, running low on oxygen in a cave system is never good.

ebbsy

ebbsy wrote: »

He was never going to get the equipment there in time.

Fair play to Musk for trying something.

GBX

Read this twitter thread this morning: Gives good insight to the difficulties faced and facing the final rescues.

https://twitter.com/Where_is_Puff/status/1016112164418015232

(Click on the tweet and it should bring you to the full thread of tweets)

murpho999

acai berry wrote: »

Prayers! I'm a bit worried about the use of sedatives on the boys. Hopes it works out perfectly.

Why are people worried about the sedatives. They just calm them down not dope them out entirely.

I'm sure the people who prescribed them (if true) know what they're doing.

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That would surely be both impractical and undesirable. Cave systems exist because river water dissolves limestone rocks and flows underground. You can't just wave a magic wand and block a river! Even if you put a large grill over the main entrance, this would surely gather flood debris etc. Besides which cave systems often have several entry points.

And anyway would you also block off every cave, fence all cliffs and put razor wire on beaches.