They're Alive!!!

Lackey

Stheno wrote: »

thats all of the first group

Sky news saying next group will consist of 3 kids

Filmer Paradise

Glued to this on Sky news now.

2 out & 2 on the way.

Hope this goes well!

Stheno

Lackey wrote: »

Sky news saying next group will consist of 3 kids

yes first group was four then 3 groups of 3

coach is in last group

Malayalam

I want to cheer, but I can hardly bear to cheer until they are all out...

dr.fuzzenstein

edit:
Apart from all that, hope they make it out. The rescuers are true heroes, my respect goes out to them.

Deleted User wrote: »

You painted it as the glaringly obvious solution from the start when it's being done now as a last resort. Everyone knew it was possible but so risky it was worth trying other things.

It's like they are ignoring the glaringly obvious and wasting time coming up with nothing much.

That "nothing much" resulted in an awful lot of water being removed from the cave. The #1 plan was them walking out.

I actually agree with one thing. Draining the cave and have them walk out would have been the very best option.
But how far was this going to get? How long does it take to drain a lake using pumps? And if it rains this lake has a river flowing into it.
Best option yes. They made the most of it, but walking them out? I don't think they ever envisaged this happening.
Let's look at other plans. Drilling down to them was an option, but far more complex than the current option. Don't think that was ever seriously in the runnig.
Yes, diving them out was maybe not a pretty option, it would have been better to build a 4 lane tunnel and have them driven out by air-conditioned coach.
But really what other options where there?
Maybe I came on strong and now people are shouting me down. Some have made the point that I was wrong because I didn't write out the rescue plan in intricate detail. Ah well. Sleep lost over this, zero.

You're making an absolute show of yourself here. So incredibly disingenuous.

Thanks, I try my best.


edit agai:

I will agree to disagree or to agree, I made my arguments, I do not want to drag this further OT.
My only further thoughts on thius are Go Rescue Team!

Tilikum17

These divers should never have to pay taxes again.

Stheno

Tilikum17 wrote: »

These divers should never have to pay taxes again.

should never have to work again imo.

do the likes of the British guys do this voluntarily?

Mr.Crinklewood

Fantastic work so far.

Bit of info about our own heroes

http://www.caving.ie/icro/

https://www.icro.ie/donations.php (icro site itself seems to need a login)

Filmer Paradise

Stheno wrote: »

should never have to work again imo.

do the likes of the British guys do this voluntarily?

Apparently so.

wexie

Stheno wrote: »

do the likes of the British guys do this voluntarily?

Yup

All over the world apparently.

retalivity

Stheno wrote: »

should never have to work again imo.

do the likes of the British guys do this voluntarily?

Yes. The british lads are a retired firefighter and an IT consultant, heroes.

Stheno

wexie wrote: »

Yup

All over the world apparently.

incredible.

apparently the water levels lowered enough that most of the way was walkable

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2018/jul/08/thailand-cave-rescue-operation-divers-trapped-boys-live

wexie

Stheno wrote: »

incredible.

apparently the water levels lowered enough that most of the way was walkable

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2018/jul/08/thailand-cave-rescue-operation-divers-trapped-boys-live

I'd imagine that's how they are getting them out so quickly.

Let's hope those rains hold off for a little while.

Stheno

another four expected out shortly

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/44755093

dr.fuzzenstein

Stheno wrote: »

incredible.

apparently the water levels lowered enough that most of the way was walkable

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2018/jul/08/thailand-cave-rescue-operation-divers-trapped-boys-live

Well, I admit that I am amazed they got so much out.

Paddy Cow

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

I will agree to disagree or to agree, I made my arguments, I do not want to drag this further OT.
My only further thoughts on thius are Go Rescue Team!

You behaved like an insufferable know it all. "I was right all along, aren't I the big man" :rolleyes: The only reason this rescue was possible was because of the break from the monsoon rain, which is rarer than a 30 degree heat wave in Ireland. They got incredibly lucky and were able to lower the water level in the cave. You didn't and couldn't have predicted that. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Doesn't mean the clock should brag about it though.

ebbsy

Tilikum17 wrote: »

These divers should never have to pay taxes again.

Just like Michael Lowry 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Amirani

They've been able to walk a lot. Makes it a much easier prospect than trying to dive them out a couple of days ago. Also encouraging that it's the weakest that have made it out first.

Lackey

6 boys out!! Sky news

Tom Mann Centuria

Just wonderful news, what an effort from all involved.

Stheno

Amirani wrote: »

They've been able to walk a lot. Makes it a much easier prospect than trying to dive them out a couple of days ago. Also encouraging that it's the weakest that have made it out first.

took two hours less than estimated to get the weakest kids out. hopefully that bodes well for the rest.

My heart!!

Filmer Paradise

Looks like all of them could be out by 5 o clock, our time. (Sky News)

Here's hoping.

_Dara_

I am so happy. It’s the Chilean miners all over again!

wexie

_Dara_ wrote: »

I am so happy. It’s the Chilean miners all over again!

But less drama with wives and girlfriends :pac:

(presumably anyways)

Malayalam

wexie wrote: »

But less drama with wives and girlfriends :pac:

(presumably anyways)

hahaha no affairs lurking

This has us all gripped here. I still cannot cheer until all are out....

ChikiChiki

#theyrecominghome Go on the lads! Incredible scenes

Discodog

confirmed that the 6 weakest are out

Sephiroth_dude

6 rescued according to sky news, fantastic news, the thought of them stuck in there made me feel claustrophobic!

acai berry

Discodog wrote: »

confirmed that the 6 weakest are out

WoW! This beats all expectations.

mirrorwall14

I keep tearing up every update. It’s such an incredible feat. Conditions were so so bad

monkeysnapper

Fantastic news ... A great good news strory for this Sunday afternoon ..

shaunr68

Incredible, as the whole world watches in suspense, for once united and hoping for a miracle. I honestly thought this would end in tragedy and while there is some way to go yet, amazing news so far. RIP to the diver who lost his life and respect to the brave men and women risking their lives in the rescue attempt.

FingerDeKat

And they all have an open invite to the world cup final in Russia

Blazer

FingerDeKat wrote: »

And they all have an open invite to the world cup final in Russia

The thoughts of Infantino and Putin fawning over them for their own agenda makes me sick.

murpho999

CNN now saying 4 now out and rescue stopped for the night.

RikkFlair

Looking very optimistic for a positive outcome now, in awe of all the rescuers and teams on the ground there, the best of humanity!

ChikiChiki

FingerDeKat wrote: »

And they all have an open invite to the world cup final in Russia

That woud be an amazing thing to see them all at the WC. The world needs a good story after years of miserable ****e!

FingerDeKat

Blazer wrote: »

The thoughts of Infantino and Putin fawning over them for their own agenda makes me sick.

Tbh couldn't care less about that , was more thinking of the experience for the kids.


Hopefully all out tomorrow

MayoForSam

FingerDeKat wrote: »

And they all have an open invite to the world cup final in Russia

And of course Putin will pop up out of the water at the very end as the last boy is recovered, in a frogman suit, let it be known that he personally rescued all of the boys and that he will be bringing them all to the game in his private jet.

Discodog

murpho999 wrote: »

CNN now saying 4 now out and rescue stopped for the night.

6 were supposedly confirmed. They wouldn't stop for the dark - maybe to give the crews a rest

4 went by ambulance & 2 by helicopter

ChikiChiki

Blazer wrote: »

The thoughts of Infantino and Putin fawning over them for their own agenda makes me sick.

Screw Putin and Infantino. I think most people can look past that and see what it would mean to the kids.

wexie

Discodog wrote: »

They wouldn't stop for the dark - maybe to give the crews a rest

Stopping for the dark would make no sense whatsoever, it's pitch black in the caves whatever the time of day?

murpho999

Discodog wrote: »

6 were supposedly confirmed. They wouldn't stop for the dark - maybe to give the crews a rest

I don’t think night or day matters ina dark cave rescue.

No reason given and CNN basing their report on comment from a US official so may not be correct.

Conservatory

There’s a torrential storm coming they won’t stop for the night , in a dark cave there is no day and night.

wexie

Be a long time before any of those divers have to pay for their own drinks I'd say

Blazer

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Screw Putin and Infantino. I think most people can look past that and see what it would mean to the kids.

oh absolutely...it will be fantastic for them if they're well enough to make it.

Tilikum17

FingerDeKat wrote: »

And they all have an open invite to the world cup final in Russia

When they find out England could be in the final, they might want to go back into the cave.

murpho999

Tilikum17 wrote: »

When they find out England could be in the final, they might want to go back into the cave.

One boy was wearing an England jersey so he’ll be happy.

refusetolose

https://twitter.com/ThaiPBSEnglish/status/1015948381066153984