Dogs on Beaches

_Dara_

Dogs on beaches are the best thing ever. I’m not a dog owner so that’s not a defensive statement. I’m saying it because it’s true.

Specialun

whisky_galore wrote: »

It's not working.

Innit.

and why is it not working? I grew up by the beach and easily go to the beach 40+ times a year. I have never seen the rule enforced

razorblunt

pawdee wrote: »

Are the signs clear? I lived in London for seven years and in all that time I never used an escalator on the tube. The signs said "Dogs must be carried". As I didn't have a dog I thought I was prohibited from using the escalators without one. I thought everyone else was just ignoring the rule! I must say though, I was fit from climbing the stairs every day.

As for dogs on beaches, I have no problem with them as long as their owners keep them under control.

Pawdee Paddington is it?

Cina

I porefer to see dogs on bitches.

meeeeh

I don't overly care what happens in wet November but I don't think banning dogs from beaches when they are crowded is unreasonable. Maybe a small Fifi is ok but a larger dog should be kept away. I say that as an owner of a large dog.

Turner

Id love to see the actual bye law for this.

Zero chance of it ever being enforced or any prosecution succeeding out of it.

Waste of time

whisky_galore

Specialun wrote: »

and why is it not working? I grew up by the beach and easily go to the beach 40+ times a year. I have never seen the rule enforced

Answered your own question there.

Ger Roe

Cocobeans101 wrote: »

Irresponsible dog owners should be fined but most dogs are quite well behaved. And most dog owners pick up their dirt. A few more bins around might encourage a few more people to do so

With regard to the provision of bins:

I don't agree that the provision of more bins is a solution. More bins = more rubbish will then be left to be dealt with and the bins will never be managed properly anyway - left overflowing, not emptied on bank holiday weekends etc.

I am getting ready for the inevitable onslaught of a backlash here, but if I go anywhere for a picnic, I manage to bring all my stuff with me and strangely enough, I can always manage to bring the remaining rubbish back home with me too. It's my waste and my problem to deal with.

I don't expect anyone else to provide bins, manpower, or money to clear up after me. Is there no personal pride and responsibility these days?. If you bring it with you, you can take it back too and that includes dog poo.

Pat Mustard

Turner wrote: »

Id love to see the actual bye law for this.

Here you go:

https://www.clarecoco.ie/water-waste-environment/publications/clare-beach-bye-laws-2016-4183.pdf

gobo99

In fairness dog s**t smells like dog s**t. It's not the nicest thing to carry in the car. There needs to be bins.

andekwarhola

pocketse wrote: »

Appologies but if your child is afraid of dogs thats your issue. If your child had an irrational fear of black people should they also be banned from beaches?

A significant amount of black people don't end up being kept as pets by toerags who let them run around biting people and other pets or sh1tting everywhere, unless I've missed something

Specialun

whisky_galore wrote: »

Answered your own question there.

exactamundo. So enforce the stupid thing. The answer is not a lazy outright ban

Specialun

andekwarhola wrote: »

A significant amount of black people don't end up being kept as pets by toerags who let them run around biting people and other pets or sh1tting everywhere, unless I've missed something

Oh FFS. Exaggerate much

The Pheasant2

yrreg0850 wrote: »

You obviously dont mind

(a) having a child terrified

Not everybody else's fault you raised a wuss

Will I Am Not

I love the hypocrisy of dog owners going on about parents being precious over their kids.

Claw Hammer

Dogs on beaches during restricted hours should be shot out of hand. The owners will soon learn to keep them away from the beaches.

Metalrobe

Claw Hammer wrote: »

Dogs on beaches during restricted hours should be shot out of hand. The owners will soon learn to keep them away from the beaches.

If someone shot my dog It would end up with the vet and an ambulance being called.

Specialun

Claw Hammer wrote: »

Dogs on beaches during restricted hours should be shot out of hand. The owners will soon learn to keep them away from the beaches.

walofs

yrreg0850

pocketse wrote: »

Appologies but if your child is afraid of dogs thats your issue. If your child had an irrational fear of black people should they also be banned from beaches?

Its all a bit annoying really. I walk the beach with my dog all year round. Ive never had and hassle and cleaned up after myself. Most of the people you see all year round on the beach are dog walkers. We get a couple of weeks of sun and the great unwashed arrive out and expect everything to disappear for them.

I am only asking that the law be enforced and be obeyed by your type.

pocketse

andekwarhola wrote: »

A significant amount of black people don't end up being kept as pets by toerags who let them run around biting people and other pets or sh1tting everywhere, unless I've missed something

Again, its not my fault a child has a fear. That is the parent and child issue and while I sympathies with it i shouldn't have to change my behaviour because of your fear.

If a man with a beard approaches your child and talks to him, you rightly warn your child to stay away from similar people. You don't ban all men with beards from anywhere that my be in the vicinity of your child art any time.

If my child is afraid of heights, I don't demand a height restriction on all buildings.

Its not enforced because its a bull**** law. It rarely affects people. We get a heatwave and all of a sudden people expect a staff of people to be employed to solve a problem that they perceive for a heatwave that only happens once every 30 years.

c68zapdsm5i1ru

The Pheasant2 wrote: »

Not everybody else's fault you raised a wuss

Are people who are afraid of heights, mice, spiders, enclosed spaces also wusses?

c68zapdsm5i1ru

I was walking in Palmerston Park in Rathmines yesterday. There is a clear sign on the gate saying that dogs must be kept on a lead. Not one dog in the park at the time was actually on a lead. They were all just running around.

Why do dog owners not realise that public spaces have to be shared, and not everyone welcomes strange dogs running around them?
Or perhaps they're arrogant sods who've decided that anyone who's uncomfortable around dogs is a wuss so they will just ignore the rules.

iamwhoiam

There is a reason why dogs should be kept on a lead and the poo bagged and disposed off . If people all did that there would be no need to ban them
I sat on Rush beach last week and at least three dogs off leads came sniffing around .

_feedback_

pocketse wrote: »

Again, its not my fault a child has a fear. That is the parent and child issue and while I sympathies with it i shouldn't have to change my behaviour because of your fear.

Agree totally.. I think if a parent is aware of a childs fear of dogs, they should be doing everything possible to tackle it. It's a horrible fear to have. Dogs are everywhere, and they are also so loving and adorable.

I know a person of a similar age to me, who when visiting anyone with a dog, asks for them to be locked up. They have a fear themselves that they have carried for many years, and their child now also has a fear of dogs.

It's not a good fear for someone to grow up with.

Having said all that, dogs shouldn't be allowed run loose either. To ban them completely from a beach is daft.

Cocobeans101

Will I Am Not wrote: »

I love the hypocrisy of dog owners going on about parents being precious over their kids.

The two are hardly mutually exclusive.

It's not the preciousness of the child, it's the ridiculousness of banning dogs as some children are afraid of dogs. Where would it end?

If you loved your child, you would go out of your way to end the fear of dogs. Dogs are everywhere, it will affect the child for it's whole life.

Bracken81

The irony in this thread is hilarious

Dogs and their owners, who use the same beaches, open spaces and parks 80% of the year, hurricane season and all
Being asked to leave these areas, for families who might use the space 3% of the whole year at a big push!


NB: I'm not a parent nor a dog owner

c68zapdsm5i1ru

The dog owners are being asked not to bring their dogs to the beach between certain hours at a certain time of the year when there will be a lot of people using the beach.
They are not being banned from the beach themselves.

The fact that they live near the beach and/or use it all year around does not mean they can ruin it for others during the Summer season. in fact it's quite a selfish attitude. It's just a few weeks of the year that they can't bring their dogs down 24/7. Is that really such a big ask? Every one owns the beaches, not just the dog owners,

Cocobeans101

Sandra Clever Schoolgirl wrote: »

The dog owners are being asked not to bring their dogs to the beach between certain hours at a certain time of the year when there will be a lot of people using the beach.
They are not being banned from the beach themselves.

The fact that they live near the beach and/or use it all year around does not mean they can ruin it for others during the Summer season. in fact it's quite a selfish attitude. It's just a few weeks of the year that they can't bring their dogs down 24/7. Is that really such a big ask? Every one owns the beaches, not just the dog owners,

Why can't humans share the beach with dogs. Yes, dog sh1t is unacceptable but otherwise what’s the issue? What harm are the dogs actually doing? And no harm if kept on leesh.

Cocobeans101

Sandra Clever Schoolgirl wrote: »

The dog owners are being asked not to bring their dogs to the beach between certain hours at a certain time of the year when there will be a lot of people using the beach.
They are not being banned from the beach themselves.

The fact that they live near the beach and/or use it all year around does not mean they can ruin it for others during the Summer season. in fact it's quite a selfish attitude. It's just a few weeks of the year that they can't bring their dogs down 24/7. Is that really such a big ask? Every one owns the beaches, not just the dog owners,

Why can't humans share the beach with dogs. Yes, dog sh1t is unacceptable but otherwise what’s the issue? What harm are the dogs actually doing? And no harm if kept on leash.

meeeeh

Do people also protest if they are not allowed to bring dog to work or to a restaurant etc. Why is so hard to understand that dogs are not entitled to be wherever their owners want them to be. Go to a beach that allows dogs.