Waterford developments

Max Powers

Max Powers wrote: »

There was a few of those announcements last year like that, city bike scheme, etc. You'd have to wonder did the council ever get the money to do it? Personally I doubt they have the money. Shane Ross announced it, I can remember Halligan talking like this is going to start any day now.....

In the munster this week about the bikes, apparently September.

Harry Palmr

https://www.southernassembly.ie/uploads/general-files/Southern%20Regional%20Assembly%20RSES%202020%20FINAL%20Low%20Res.pdf


A very long PDF of the Regional Spatial & Economic Strategy for Munster (basically a more detailed region focused part of the Ireland 2040 plan). I've not looked to closely yet but did look at the connectivity section re ports and airports

Ports
It is an objective to strengthen investment to
deliver actions under National Ports Policy
and investment in sustainable infrastructure
projects that:

a. Strengthen and develop the strategic
international, national and regional economic
roles of our Tier 1 Ports (Port of Cork and
Shannon-Foynes Port) and Tier 2 Ports (Port
of Waterford and Rosslare Europort) and
support the strategic role of our region’s
port and harbour assets under the National
Marine Planning Framework;

b. Support the achievement of Ports of National
Significance Tier 1 status for the Ports of
Waterford and Rosslare Europort

Development of the Port of Waterford (Belview) as
a major International Gateway

Priorities for the Port of Waterford and Rosslare Europort
include investment in capacity and infrastructure,
including full freight rail accessibility and services using
extant rail infrastructure and road upgrades to provide
improved access routes to the Ports which will support
sustainable development.
The growth and development of the Rosslare and
Waterford Ports and the return of passenger services
to Waterford Airport are key to the development of the
Metropolitan Area and the major urban centres of the
South-East.

Development of the Port of
Waterford (Belview) as a Major
International Gateway
The Port of Waterford is Ireland’s closest
multi-modal port to Continental Europe
with significant capacity for growth. A
Port of National Significance (Tier 2) and a
Comprehensive Port on the Ten-T Network,
it currently handles 1 million tonnes of
bulk product (primarily Agri-Related) and
100,000 tonnes of break bulk (timber, steel).
The Port of Waterford Master Plan provides a
framework to provide for future infrastructure
investment requirements for enhanced capacity, which
includes quay extensions, widening and deepening of
shipping channels and installation of walling to reduce
requirements for dredging, deeper berths at quays, and a
larger turning basin.
The RSES supports development of freight rail services
and facilities at the Region’s ports. For the Port of
Waterford, this will require improvements to the
Waterford to Limerick rail line as a key strategic freight
corridor to build the Region’s international connectivity.
For the Port to function effectively for the State and
support modal shift freight rail as part of wider climate
action programmes, effective financial incentives
should be provided. The Port has a significant industrial
hinterland including the IDA’s 55 ha Strategic Industrial
landbank and the port has identified the need for further
additional land and facilities to support port activity in
the Master Plan.
Improvements to the N29 and the intersection close to
the N25 will enable lands to be released for development
and facilitate Port expansion.
Under Food Harvest 2020, the Port of Waterford will
continue to be a key export point for the agri-food sector,
and Waterford can support economic development
through improved routes to market for SMEs and all
industry sectors

Support for continued exchequer assistance
for regional airports under the Regional
Airports Programme, support the role of
Waterford Airport and Kerry Airport and
develop their potential as key tourism and
business gateways for their regions as a
complement to the services provided by the
region’s national airport gateways of Cork
Airport and Shannon International Airport

The maintenance and enhancement of
the national roads network, catering for
transport demand within the Waterford
Metropolitan Area, for improved interurban
/ inter-regional connectivity/
reduced journey times and for improved
access to international gateways, including
Port of Waterford, Rosslare-Europort and
Waterford Airport, through:

International Gateway to the Region with the Port
of Waterford - Belview and Waterford Airport;

The growth and development of the Rosslare and
Waterford Ports and the return of passenger services
to Waterford Airport are key to the development of the
Metropolitan Area and the major urban centres of the
South-East.

Waterford Airport provides key strategic
infrastructure for the Waterford MASP area
and is a Gateway for the wider South-East.
Investment in a runway extension will enhance the
international connectivity potential of Waterford for
Business (including multi-national companies involved
in export trade), support the development of TUSE
Research and Development with international partners
and provide for increased tourist traffic. The runway
extension of 500m sought by Waterford Airport would
significantly increase the capacity of the airport to cater
for larger aircraft and more frequent flights

Waterford Airport
It is an objective to support the further development of
Waterford Airport and, in particular, the development of:
• an extension of the existing runway to accommodate
larger aircraft;
• improved transport linkages and services between
the airport, Waterford City and the entire SouthEast
Region, i.e. roads and public transport;
• measures to encourage additional operators
offering services from this location;
• the expansion and development of aviation-related
industries at the airport.
In this regard, Development Plans should incorporate
policies to protect longer-term flight path public safety
zones and to control uses which could adversely impact
on the airport’s operations or the potential for new
runway development and extensions sufficient to handle
larger aircraft.
Local Authorities should ensure that consideration of
airport-related infrastructure and facilities is informed
by an adequate level of environmental assessment
including assessment of potential impacts on designated
European sites.

Harry Palmr

Discussion about this on Deise Today can be heard here - Thomas Phelan (regional assembly) and Rob Cass talking. Interesting chat.

Deise Today Tuesday 11th February Part 1

Start from 18.45 minutes

https://www.wlrfm.com/deise-today/

Muttley79

This is worrying times for Waterford as cork-limerick are ramping up their developments and cork to grow six times quicker than Waterford,rob cass is very informative with figures and information,interesting to hear Thomas Phelan has only taken over Waterford section the last number of months and seemed suprised the person he took over from seemed to lie down and roll over while cork-limerick have ploughed on with their developments.will we ever catch a break!!!

hardybuck

Muttley79 wrote: »

This is worrying times for Waterford as cork-limerick are ramping up their developments and cork to grow six times quicker than Waterford,rob cass is very informative with figures and information,interesting to hear Thomas Phelan has only taken over Waterford section the last number of months and seemed suprised the person he took over from seemed to lie down and roll over while cork-limerick have ploughed on with their developments.will we ever catch a break!!!

I'd be more concerned that €650m was wiped off the value of Irish stocks today, particularly in the banking and construction sector.

Harry Palmr

€650m is the amount wiped if Trump sends off a nasty tweet about EU trade policy, nothing to worry about. If you are worried about finances then worry about Coronavirus rather than Sinn Fein

hardybuck

Harry Palmr wrote: »

€650m is the amount wiped if Trump sends off a nasty tweet about EU trade policy, nothing to worry about. If you are worried about finances then worry about Coronavirus rather than Sinn Fein

Two viruses. One will be cured far quicker than the other and result in fewer deaths.

Harry Palmr

Fancy speaking your mind in a few paragraphs but in a constructive manner?

Waterford Coco survey on branding for Waterford.

https://forms.zohopublic.eu/cpower/form/WaterfordBrandDevelopmentSurvey/formperma/sVXxE7A1xi5QZXV5VE53ZmzKPTnwh4d4fjihELQjbNQ

azimuth17

What I saw and answered was a trivial and meaningless one page survey. It looks like Captain Panic has set in to council.

Muttley79

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Fancy speaking your mind in a few paragraphs but in a constructive manner?

Waterford Coco survey on branding for Waterford.

https://forms.zohopublic.eu/cpower/form/WaterfordBrandDevelopmentSurvey/formperma/sVXxE7A1xi5QZXV5VE53ZmzKPTnwh4d4fjihELQjbNQ[/quot
This doesn't look good at all when the council can't seem to come up with any plans in how to draw investment into waterford and they are now asking the public for ideas.something tells me the whole north quay projects could be in big financial trouble.

Harry Palmr

Tells me someone was bored and decided to be creative and ask us. Maybe that person was looking at the previous attempts to create a front end for Waterford's image as a place to do business and saw they'd failed.

friendlyfun

I found one of the questions incredibly bizarre. It was like describe Waterford like you would describe a friend? Friendly? Intelligent, a mad bastard who loves cans?

Harry Palmr

Ray Griffin strategy guru at WIT was on Deise Today yesterday, well worth a listen. Click the link for part 2 of July 2nd show he is at the start after the ad and a few listener comments. Lot's of good points highlighted.

https://twitter.com/maryroche/status/1278843621886828546?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

hardybuck

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Ray Griffin strategy guru at WIT was on Deise Today yesterday, well worth a listen. Click the link for part 2 of July 2nd show he is at the start after the ad and a few listener comments. Lot's of good points highlighted.

https://twitter.com/maryroche/status/1278843621886828546?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

It's quite obvious that Ray either posts in this forum or reads its contents closely.

azimuth17

hardybuck wrote: »

It's quite obvious that Ray either posts in this forum or reads its contents closely.

Sanest commentary on Waterford that I have read /heard recently and an antidote to the silly comments and the patent trolling from other areas that one constantly finds on the Waterford city forum threads.

hardybuck

azimuth17 wrote: »

Sanest commentary on Waterford that I have read /heard recently and an antidote to the silly comments and the patent trolling from other areas that one constantly finds on the Waterford city forum threads.

Straight question - is it you?

azimuth17

hardybuck wrote: »

Straight question - is it you?[/QUOTE

No.

niallo76

any news as to what is going on with Katie Reilleys pub-seems a bit of work is going on at the moment??

DLS_75

niallo76 wrote: »

any news as to what is going on with Katie Reilleys pub-seems a bit of work is going on at the moment??

Maybe I’m wrong but I think ray admitted to being here in the WIT thread?

beazee

niallo76 wrote: »

any news as to what is going on with Katie Reilleys pub-seems a bit of work is going on at the moment??

Applicant Name: Walsh & Sheehan Investments Ltd.,

Description change of use of existing public house to 8 no. dwelling units accessed from Barrack Street and Convent Hill and consisting of: 2 x 1 bed ground floor studio apartments, 1x1 bed apartments at 1st and 2nd floors, together with 4 x 1 bed dormer terraced houses, and all associated site development works

Location former "Ryan's Pub" 16 Barrack Street/Convent Hill Waterford

Decision Granted
Decision Date 17/10/2019

jelutong

Is Katie Reillys not on the Tramore Road ? Used to be called The Halfway House I think.

Harry Palmr

Katie Reilly's Kitchen indeed! Old haunt of mine back when they had loads of great music acts there.

It was auctioned off in 2019.

ArtVandelay76

beazee wrote: »

Applicant Name: Walsh & Sheehan Investments Ltd.,

Description change of use of existing public house to 8 no. dwelling units accessed from Barrack Street and Convent Hill and consisting of: 2 x 1 bed ground floor studio apartments, 1x1 bed apartments at 1st and 2nd floors, together with 4 x 1 bed dormer terraced houses, and all associated site development works

Location former "Ryan's Pub" 16 Barrack Street/Convent Hill Waterford

Decision Granted
Decision Date 17/10/2019

Wrong pub.

beazee

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Katie Reilly's Kitchen

No recent planning application for the area
https://www.waterfordcouncil.ie/departments/planning/planning-enquiries/online-planning-enquiries.htm

Harry Palmr

Waterford area development plan consultation paper for your submission

https://consult.waterfordcouncil.ie/en/browse

Muttley79

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/hong-kong-security-law-officials-discussed-six-sites-for-autonomous-city-in-ireland-5566xs8jl?shareToken=3459f6fb4dcb18e8f60115f4b9a9ad08
Time to throw the dice and see what number it lands on.a plot outside of Waterford is considered for a new city of up to 50k people mainly from Hong kong which could grow to 500k in twenty years.they are looking at one of the cities outside of Dublin with national framework 2040.this would be massive for the south east if we got it.

Johnboy1951

Muttley79 wrote: »

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/hong-kong-security-law-officials-discussed-six-sites-for-autonomous-city-in-ireland-5566xs8jl?shareToken=3459f6fb4dcb18e8f60115f4b9a9ad08
Time to throw the dice and see what number it lands on.a plot outside of Waterford is considered for a new city of up to 50k people mainly from Hong kong which could grow to 500k in twenty years.they are looking at one of the cities outside of Dublin with national framework 2040.this would be massive for the south east if we got it.

It states the city would have a “free reforming economic system” within Ireland; an independent relationship with the EU; control of its own borders; a low and simple taxation system; no foreign exchange control; and an emphasis on “ease of setting up and conducting businesses”.

A city state within Ireland?
What a sick joke!

Dum_Dum

Expect planning objections from Cork.

Dum_Dum

The existing town would be become the tourist zone. The Quay the ancient fishing village. Waterford Harbour becomes Kowloon Bay.

Muttley79

If they did ever pick Waterford we could sacrifice portlaw to our new Hong Kong overlords

Harry Palmr

A city state is a better deal than what we are getting from Ireland PLC.

Muttley79

Harry Palmr wrote: »

A city state is a better deal than what we are getting from Ireland PLC.

It's amazing that a businessman from Hong Kong has more vision for Ireland and possibly Waterford than any of our representatives all put together have for the future

JohnC.

Probably as likely to happen as the similar plan from several years back up the midlands or somewhere.

spaceCreated

Probably as likely to happen as the similar plan for 24/7 cardiac care or the university status for WIT from several years back in the recession or boom or last year or somewhere.

Bards

Reminds me of when the Swiss planned on Making a colony here many moons ago

http://padraigrooney.com/blog/?p=1326

vriesmays

We're doing that now, except instead of city of God it'll be city of Mohammed.

Johnboy1951

Bards wrote: »

Reminds me of when the Swiss planned on Making a colony here many moons ago

http://padraigrooney.com/blog/?p=1326

Thanks for that link.
I had just assumed that Geneva Barracks was purpose built by the English.

It is many years now since I paid it a visit. I expect it is now only ruins.

Hoffmans

New sports bar mooted for railway square or a mexican food place ,taking shape nicely, something to do with the American vulture fund crowd...

DLS_75

Hoffmans wrote: »

New sports bar mooted for railway square or a mexican food place ,taking shape nicely, something to do with the American vulture fund crowd...

Pinks opening next Friday.

smellyoldboot

Hoffmans wrote: »

New sports bar mooted for railway square or a mexican food place ,taking shape nicely, something to do with the American vulture fund crowd...

Yeah I thought we were getting a Mexican restaurant, was quite excited tbh. Looks like what they have planned is .. something else. Beer towers, multiple sports screens, tequila shots etc. Sounds tacky as hell and as Mexican as Ballyhaunis. Think I'll pass.

DLS_75

smellyoldboot wrote: »

Yeah I thought we were getting a Mexican restaurant, was quite excited tbh. Looks like what they have planned is .. something else. Beer towers, multiple sports screens, tequila shots etc. Sounds tacky as hell and as Mexican as Ballyhaunis. Think I'll pass.

Jesus wept. Maybe try the place first before you decide to pass.

Wanderer78

DLS_75 wrote: »

Jesus wept. Maybe try the place first before you decide to pass.

id have to agree to be honest, its probably just not for either of us, but hopefully its successful, in a market that looks to be in serious trouble, and im sure theres a market for it, so hopefully

friendlyfun

Wouldnt mind another Mexican food place in Waterford tbh. We have a load of asian fusion/street food places but only two Mexican places and only one of them just does Burritos more or less.

Yellow_Fern

Waterford has a few Tex Mexs. No Mexican yet. Burritos arent really Mexican, kinda but barely and usually in real Mexican food. We just have just Yank imitation Mexican.

smellyoldboot

DLS_75 wrote: »

Jesus wept. Maybe try the place first before you decide to pass.

No thanks. I would be attending with a small young family and from the thrust of their social media advertising , we clearly aren't their target market, so I'll pass.

kuang1

smellyoldboot wrote: »

No thanks. I would be attending with a small young family and from the thrust of their social media advertising , we clearly aren't their target market, so I'll pass.

But, just to be clear, if you were their target market you'd go?
You're miffed that they haven't targeted you with their advertising?

smellyoldboot

kuang1 wrote: »

But, just to be clear, if you were their target market you'd go?
You're miffed that they haven't targeted you with their advertising?

If I was a mid 20s soccer loving lager lout type? Probably not tbh. It's misguided even for the market they are aiming at.

From what I can see the food offering is a banner of convenience for the current times. It's a pub by the look of things, looking to circumvent normal licencing laws posing as a restaurant.

Yellow_Fern

If we permitted alcohol to be served in all cafes and takeaways you'd avoid this problem.

Wanderer78

Yellow_Fern wrote: »

If we permitted alcohol to be served in all cafes and takeaways you'd avoid this problem.

maybe, and it also could introduce further complexities also, its hard to know what exactly to do with highly addictive substances, theres generally no clear solutions, every approach has inherent problems

Hoffmans

smellyoldboot wrote: »

Yeah I thought we were getting a Mexican restaurant, was quite excited tbh. Looks like what they have planned is .. something else. Beer towers, multiple sports screens, tequila shots etc. Sounds tacky as hell and as Mexican as Ballyhaunis. Think I'll pass.

I have just seen that advertising , looks very dodgy indeed given the health guidelines surrouding drunkness in relation to covid etc.. looks like the food offering is just a ruse to sell tanks of larger and cocktails by the poster...