Is it cos I is black?

Donald Trump

First up, we can all obviously agree that discrimination is wrong. (Well most of us).


President of the Maynooth SU tried to sue Luas for 75k because a group of young fellas who had no tickets did a runner and himself and the brother were asked to step off the Luas while the security tried to sort it.


Yes, it's a bit shitty if you had nothing to do with the trouble but it's not the end of the world. If it is as reported, it hardly seems remotely like a genuine case of discrimination.


He had another article referring some fella calling him a bad slur in an U14 football match for whatever relevance that was to the Luas incident and his feeling to an entitlement to 75k of their money



Is this something we are going to have to tip-toe around in years to come? Will we turn into the US with silent divisions and segregation and people always just watching and waiting to pounce on something that they can describe as discrimination?




http://www.universitytimes.ie/2018/07/maynooth-students-union-president-loses-e75000-defamation-action-against-luas/

Galwayguy35

He was just looking for easy money, thankfully the judge saw through his bs story.

It's a life lesson for him, at least now he knows if he wants 75 k he needs to earn it.

weldoninhio

Donald Trump wrote: »

First up, we can all obviously discrimination is wrong. (Well most of us).


President of the Maynooth SU tried to sue Luas for 75k because a group of young fellas who had no tickets did a runner and himself and the brother were asked to step off the Luas while the security tried to sort it.


Yes, it's a bit shitty if you had nothing to do with the trouble but it's not the end of the world. If it is as reported, it hardly seems remotely like a genuine case of discrimination.


He had another article referring some fella calling him a bad slur in an U14 football match for whatever relevance that was to the Luas incident and his feeling to an entitlement to 75k of their money



Is this something we are going to have to tip-toe around in years to come? Will we turn into the US with silent divisions and segregation and people always just watching and waiting to pounce on something that they can describe as discrimination?




http://www.universitytimes.ie/2018/07/maynooth-students-union-president-loses-e75000-defamation-action-against-luas/

Hopefully he got costs against him? No mention of it in article.

dudara

Reading the article, it appears that the judge didn’t entirely disagree with Diop, but found that he didn’t have a legal basis to award damages, and therefore had to dismiss the case.

Sleeper12

If they only asked Black people off I might be offended if I were one myself but if everyone had to get off regardless of colour then I don't see anything wrong with it

evolving_doors

First up, we can all racist obviously but not be.
Well maybe not.

Donald Trump

Other articles.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/people-were-saying-i-should-be-deported-student-who-brought-75k-defamation-claim-says-he-regularly-suffers-racial-abuse-37089006.html

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/circuit-court/maynooth-student-loses-75-000-defamation-action-against-luas-1.3555605

Now, being subject to discrimination is terrible, but to me, this looks likes an attempt to make a few easy quid and is an insult to those that do suffer it

Donald Trump

evolving_doors wrote: »

First up, we can all racist obviously but not be.
Well maybe not.

Depends on whatever you're having yourself

wexie

evolving_doors wrote: »

First up, we can all racist obviously but not be.
Well maybe not.

???

Not sure even Yoda could make sense of that?

glic71rods46t0

The fact that he was elected SU President would be strong evidence that he doesnt suffer extensive racism in his life. The fact that at 23 years of age he had to refer to an under14 match for an example of racist slurs is quite telling - it probably happened up to 10 years ago!
I hope this chancer gets landed with all legal costs

Donald Trump

dudara wrote: »

Reading the article, it appears that the judge didn’t entirely disagree with Diop, but found that he didn’t have a legal basis to award damages, and therefore had to dismiss the case.

Well according to the article, they didn't even make him get off the train. Just made hand signals for them to get off.


It's not really discrimination though if you fit the description of someone who was causing trouble and they want to check.


What that description was is a little irrelevant though. Would it make it better if it had said "a group of people in Mayo jerseys", or a "group of young fellas"


Even if they had gotten him off the Luas and onto the platform, it would have only been a few minutes wait til the next one.




Fair enough if the security randomly got on the train on a random day and said "ah look, there are a few random black people on this train. Those lot are always up to no good. Let's kick them off to get the next one"

wexie

r9fel15dmxybi3 wrote: »

The fact that he was elected SU President would be strong evidence that he doesnt suffer extensive racism in his life.

I don't know the chap, he may be very able and completely deserve the position. On the other hand, from what I understand of the climate on a lot of campuses, I wouldn't discount the possibility that he ended up as president because people are going out of their way to make sure they're not seen as racist.

From the article I find it hard to tell whether or not this was an incident of profiling to be honest.

Donald Trump

r9fel15dmxybi3 wrote: »

The fact that he was elected SU President would be strong evidence that he doesnt suffer extensive racism in his life. The fact that at 23 years of age he had to refer to an under14 match for an example of racist slurs is quite telling - it probably happened up to 10 years ago!
I hope this chancer gets landed with all legal costs

I could probably write a book on all the names I'd have been called playing U14 football.








That said, it was mostly by the parents and the referee who were wondering why a 60-odd year old future US Presidential candidate was trying to sneak in at corner-back for Ballygobackward GAA club

enricoh

He wanted 75k for that. 75! Awards in Ireland should be divided by a factor if 10, it'd stop the scroungers bothering.
And costs awarded against them would make the no win no fee solicitors be a bit more picky about what cases they take on

evolving_doors

Donald Trump wrote: »

Well according to the article, they didn't even make him get off the train. Just made hand signals for them to get off.


It's not really discrimination though if you fit the description of someone who was causing trouble and they want to check.

What description was that OP?

Sleeper12

Donald Trump wrote: »

Other articles.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/people-were-saying-i-should-be-deported-student-who-brought-75k-defamation-claim-says-he-regularly-suffers-racial-abuse-37089006.html

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/circuit-court/maynooth-student-loses-75-000-defamation-action-against-luas-1.3555605

Now, being subject to discrimination is terrible, but to me, this looks likes an attempt to make a few easy quid and is an insult to those that do suffer it

I don't know this chap nor can I possibly know his motives but another side to it could be that he was trying to stop it happen again. Getting sued usually puts manners on people.



I'm just putting it out there

evolving_doors

wexie wrote: »

???

Not sure even Yoda could make sense of that?

as much sense as this makes it.

First up, we can all obviously agree that discrimination is wrong. (Well most of us).

thebull85

DEPORT

wexie

thebull85 wrote: »

DEPORT

based on what? Has he committed some crime we're not aware of?

Or just cause he's black?

wexie

thebull85 wrote: »

Attempting to defraud the state, get him out.

No he wasn't, if anything he was attempting to defraud the security company for the Luas.....

G'won Bully, be honest and tell us why you'd really like to deport the chap, not like we don't already know :rolleyes:

EDIT : I see you've deleted your post, thankfully I got it in time

dudara

thebull85 wrote: »

DEPORT

On what basis do you propose to deport an Irish citizen?

thebull85

wexie wrote: »

No he wasn't, if anything he was attempting to defraud the security company for the Luas.....

G'won Bully, be honest and tell us why you'd really like to deport the chap, not like we don't already know :rolleyes:

EDIT : I see you've deleted your post, thankfully I got it in time

I actually wasnt being serious, id of put money on yourself or captain oblivious being the first to reply to me though.

wexie

thebull85 wrote: »

I actually wasnt being serious,

Of course you weren't, we all know you don't have a problem with people of colour at all.

There there it's okay.

:rolleyes:

Donald Trump

Sleeper12 wrote: »

I don't know this chap nor can I possibly know his motives but another side to it could be that he was trying to stop it happen again. Getting sued usually puts manners on people.



I'm just putting it out there

I'd say we know his motives. 75k of them




A judgement and negative publicity against the company is what would hurt them. Whether that be 100 Euro or 75,000 Euro would not make a huge difference to their annual bottom line.




However it would make a difference to Mr. SU Pres

thebull85

wexie wrote: »

Of course you weren't, we all know you don't have a problem with people of colour at all.

There there it's okay.

:rolleyes:

i dont have a problem with people of colour i have a problem with scumbags, regardless of colour.

Donald Trump

evolving_doors wrote: »

as much sense as this makes it.

Did you manage to make sense of it yet?

Donald Trump

evolving_doors wrote: »

What description was that OP?

Jaysus, you're easily "triggered"


:pac:

Sleeper12

Donald Trump wrote:

A judgement and negative publicity against the company is what would hurt them. Whether that be 100 Euro or 75,000 Euro would not make a huge difference to their annual bottom line.

The bigger the payout the more they stand up and take notice. A small claim wouldn't have made the paper.

Donald Trump

Sleeper12 wrote: »

The bigger the payout the more they stand up and take notice. A small claim wouldn't have made the paper.

Ah get out of that. SU President discriminated against? Remember the big uproar about the UCD Pro-life wan. The Trinity wan who used to be a junkie and made it to the Seanad. Plenty of publicity. They have access to plenty of platforms to raise issues. Sure they have access to their own papers too




He wasn't being a hero. Was just being a greedy bollix trying to game the system

Sleeper12

Donald Trump wrote: »

Ah get out of that. SU President discriminated against? Remember the big uproar about the UCD Pro-life wan. The Trinity wan who used to be a junkie and made it to the Seanad. Plenty of publicity. They have access to plenty of platforms to raise issues. Sure they have access to their own papers too




He wasn't being a hero. Was just being a greedy bollix trying to game the system

WTF is a "Wan"? I've googled it and no result that makes sense to your statement?

wan
wɒn/Submit
adjective
(of a person's complexion or appearance) pale and giving the impression of illness or exhaustion.
"she was looking wan and bleary-eyed"
synonyms: pale, pallid, ashen, white, white as a sheet, grey; More
(of light) pale; weak.
"the wan dawn light"
synonyms: dim, faint, weak, feeble, pale, watery, wishy-washy
"the wan light of the moon"
(of a smile) lacking enthusiasm or energy.
"he gave a wan smile"

wexie

Sleeper12 wrote: »

WTF is a "Wan"? I've googled it and no result that makes sense to your statement?

'yer wan from Trinity'

'that girl from Trinity'

Donald Trump

Sleeper12 wrote: »

WTF is a "Wan"? I've googled it and no result that makes sense to your statement?

https://www.irishslang.info/dublin/dublin/wan

VonZan

Thankfully he lost. This guy probably thinks he's Rosa Parks; I don't know why you're bothering giving him the attention he clearly so desperately craves.

Sleeper12

wexie wrote: »

'yer wan from Trinity'

'that girl from Trinity'

Honestly I've never heard that in my life. Must be a country thing.



Anyway. Back to the debate

Donald Trump

VonZan wrote: »

Thankfully he lost. This guy probably thinks he's Rosa Parks; I don't know why you're bothering giving him the attention he clearly so desperately craves.

Ah sure at least Rosa was allowed down the back of the bus


Nothing compared to the tribulations of this poor fella


:pac:

suicide_circus

if I was profiling anyone for misbehaving on the LUAS it wouldn't be anyone who looked like this chap.

Kivaro

When prospective employers do a search for Leon Diop, this case is what will define him in great part.

In his "exclusive" interview with the Independent (... not keeping his head down) after his defamation action was dismissed by a judge, he said it was the result of previous 'racial' incidents that had encouraged him to take the case against the Luas operators.
What an odd statement. So the merits of his lawsuit were based on incidents prior to this event?

He had an issue with one of the security staff who had videoed them while they were spoken to. Does he want all CCTVs to turn off as he walks by or should security cameras in shops be switched off as soon as he enters? The video recording is a way to validate the truth, but he had an issue with it.

Well done Leon Diop. On future employer searches for your name, your €75k claim will be high up there.

evolving_doors

Donald Trump wrote: »

Did you manage to make sense of it yet?

Nope.

It's as confusing as that opening statement 'I'm not racist, but...'

Donald Trump

evolving_doors wrote: »

Nope.

It's as confusing as that opening statement 'I'm not racist, but...'

Disappointing comment from someone marked as a mod for "teaching and lecturing"

Paddy Cow

I'm surprised he didn't get something, given that some other chancer got 5 grand over a fake note.

screamer

Well how naive. Would employers give a job to anyone who thinks this way? How would you discipline them or give them any kind of constructive feedback? He may find that this court action will end up costing a lot more than 75k in terms of employment opportunities.

CrankyHaus

Donald Trump wrote: »

Is this something we are going to have to tip-toe around in years to come? Will we turn into the US with silent divisions and segregation and people always just watching and waiting to pounce on something that they can describe as discrimination?

Yes we will. Already the Quango sector, with broad media and official backing, has been campaigning for legislation that will enable such racial and ethnic divisions. The judiciary are well behind it, if you read the article you see the judge sympathise with Dion that he can't give him money and bemoan the lack of legislation making racial profiling a tort.

Muckie

Basically he thought he chance it, fight against the imagined oppression he felt from the Luas Inspectors.

He's an arsehole who happens to be black.

Delighted he's case was dismissed.

Auguste Comte

thebull85 wrote: »

DEPORT

Where to?

Donald Trump

Auguste Comte wrote: »

Where to?

Leitrim


That'll learn the fecker fairly lively so it will

Irish Guitarist

I won't hear a word said against Diop. I love his voice.

fash

dudara wrote: »

thebull85 wrote: »

DEPORT

On what basis do you propose to deport an Irish citizen?

Cavan people back to Cavan.

Infini

Honestly theres an easy way of responding to this kind of argument.

Random Black Jerk turns around starts making claims he's being "discriminated". (trying to be a cute hoor)

The best answer, "O really is that what you think? Or are we just trying to play that card because IM white?"

Now whos the "racist?" :P

Cee-Jay-Cee

As a white person im offended that this black persons was offended. Can I have €75k please.

somefeen

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

As a white person im offended that this black persons was offended. Can I have €75k please.

Sure, but I'm offended by your offence at another person being offended so you'll have to give the €75k to me.

SEPT 23 1989

Is it not the natural progression for a power hungry cnut calling himself a "student president" to want to progress into the world of adult politics?

He craves power over people and has the neck to pull the race card