Harry Kane 'one of our own' ?

gormdubhgorm

It was on the telly last night on RTE.
I found it a little bit irritating if I am completely honest.
Apparently Harry Kane is 'one of our own'.

http://connachttribune.ie/harry-kane-hes-one-of-our-own-909/

Just because his father and grandfather happen to be Irish.
Aparrently he did think about playing for Ireland according to MON

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2992149/Harry-Kane-considered-playing-Ireland-breakthrough-season-propelled-brink-England-says-Martin-O-Neill.html

But his father says that the FAI missed thier chance as no attempt was made to get him at underage level

https://www.balls.ie/football/harry-kanes-father-says-the-fai-never-pursued-him-in-his-younger-days-322865

There were a few bits of Harry Kane memorabilia around in some pub in Connemara.
But I got the impression that Kane was not a regular to the area except for his grandfather's funeral he does not go the area because of his 'celebrity' these days.
I thought myself that is a bit weak using 'celebrity' as an excuse.

The whole thing was not as bad as claiming Obama and JFK.
But still, the whole thing seemed a bit off to me, grasping at straws.

davyboy1975

Same as claiming daniel day lewis and others then to be fair. His dad and grandfather are irish so we do have a 'claim' on him. (Yes that pun was intentional, given his recent goal)
And tbf he is probably more irish then half the lads that play for the republic

Zebra3

Cringey stuff.

He decided to play for England. Can we not just leave it at that, RTÉ?

blueser

Zebra3 wrote: »

Cringey stuff.

He decided to play for England. Can we not just leave it at that, RTÉ?

Agreed. He's gone, no use whining about what might have been. But hey; if Tony "the ice cream man" Cascarino can claim to be Irish, then why not?

LiamoSail

I think plenty here who have emigrated to the likes of the UK or Australia and had kids would still see their kids as half Irish. No different to Kane really

Mr.Nice Guy

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

The whole thing was not as bad as claiming Obama and JFK.
But still, the whole thing seemed a bit off to me, grasping at straws.

Obama didn't know much about his Irish roots. The Kennedys, however, were well aware of their roots and proud of them.

I don't see the problem with feeling good about someone with a connection to Ireland, providing the person involved actually feels a reciprocal warmth. From what I gather, Kane and his family respect their roots so good luck to them.

SEPT 23 1989

Another masterstroke by the FAI

murpho999

davyboy1975 wrote: »

Same as claiming daniel day lewis and others then to be fair. His dad and grandfather are irish so we do have a 'claim' on him. (Yes that pun was intentional, given his recent goal)
And tbf he is probably more irish then half the lads that play for the republic

Daniel Day Lewis is an Irish citizen and lives in Roundwood, Co Wicklow.

Zebra3

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Obama didn't know much about his Irish roots. The Kennedys, however, were well aware of their roots and proud of them.

I don't see the problem with feeling good about someone with a connection to Ireland, providing the person involved actually feels a reciprocal warmth. From what I gather, Kane and his family respect their roots so good luck to them.

The Kennedys knew there was a huge amount of votes in it for them.

Tom Mann Centuria

Harmless, and silly. Same when British press "claim" Irish Actors etc.

It's coming home. Or not.

super_furry

Silly thing to be getting worked up about really.

SharpshooterTom

Martin Keown, co commentator for BBC today has two Irish parents, don't think anyone's claiming him as Irish. It would be silly otherwise.

Pauliedragon

LiamoSail wrote: »

I think plenty here who have emigrated to the likes of the UK or Australia and had kids would still see their kids as half Irish. No different to Kane really

It comes down to the individual. I have 5 year old twin cousins in Australia, Irish father, Aussie mother. One swears he's half Irish the other claims he's 100% Aussie. The "Aussie" even mocks his brother for being "Irish"

Cantona's Collars

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

Martin Keown, co commentator for BBC today has two Irish parents, don't think anyone's claiming him as Irish. It would be silly otherwise.

Whatever we think about Keown on commentary, he's very proud of his Irish roots. I saw an interview with him before and he grew up being more Irish than the Irish themselves and was steeped in music and history.

The op raises the question of the FAI and the same old story of "could have played for Ireland but we missed out". A lot of this seems to be from calling up players and never actually giving them game time.
The only reason we saw some new lads getting a run out was out of necessity lately,had more of the usual heads been available I doubt as many of the new boys would have set foot on the pitch.

SharpshooterTom

So Harry Kane is 1/4 Irish? Not half?

Would obviously qualify him for an Irish passport, but not a British one if it was the other way round. Fairly tenuous.

jacksie66

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Coillte_Bhoy

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

Martin Keown, co commentator for BBC today has two Irish parents, don't think anyone's claiming him as Irish. It would be silly otherwise.

His son has played for Ireland

dirtyden

jacksie66 wrote: »

Will we be seeing the Harry Kane Plaza on the m18 soon?








Like that embarrassment on the m7...

Why would that embarrass you? It’s a selling point for an otherwise nondescript village and they are getting a benefit from it. The first Black man ever elected POTUS and one of the most popular us presidents ever decided to trace his roots to there, why not let the locals make a euro out of it.

Pauliedragon

So technically if England win the world cup we will be quarter world cup champions. I'd better suss out where my nearest tattoo shop is.:P

theoneeyedman

The bullsh1te merchants on newstalk are spinning the agenda around 'should we support the English team' as they try to fill airspace during the political silly summer season. Pretty embarrassing stuff, especially yer wan on the early morning show saying (in all seriousness) "sure aren't Harry Kane and Harry Maguire Irish anyway".
While Kane has some Irish connections, trying to claim him as one of our own is fvcking embarrassing. It's similar to the likes of The Scum or Daily Mail reporters claiming that Eire is part of the UK, or the morning TV presenters last year claiming Saoirse Ronan as British last year.

Get a fvcking life lads....

Coillte_Bhoy

theoneeyedman wrote: »

The bullsh1te merchants on newstalk are spinning the agenda around 'should we support the English team' as they try to fill airspace during the political silly summer season. Pretty embarrassing stuff, especially yer wan on the early morning show saying (in all seriousness) "sure aren't Harry Kane and Harry Maguire Irish anyway".
While Kane has some Irish connections, trying to claim him as one of our own is fvcking embarrassing. It's similar to the likes of The Scum or Daily Mail reporters claiming that Eire is part of the UK, or the morning TV presenters last year claiming Saoirse Ronan as British last year.

Get a fvcking life lads....

It's constant on Newstalk, its ridiculous at this satge

jacksie66

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gormdubhgorm

jacksie66 wrote: »

Oh yeah, I'm proud to have a petrol station named after a lad who bombed the **** out of the middle east and killed countless with drones. Yeah, a great lad.

I remember being very uneasy when Obama was in a Moneygall pub and casually said on camera.
'The last Guinness I had was during a stopover in Shannon!'

Just to reiterate I am implying that Harry Kane partook in any stopovers nor do I have any problem with Kane drinking Guinness!

The bit that grates on me is the fella clearly views himself and English NOT Irish so why claim him as 'Irish'?
He never even considered playing for Ireland as a 'fall back' position if he did not get an England call up.

The money making aspect for an area is the only valid reason for doing so.
Maybe stag nights and hen nights will converge on Letterfrack now?

If any young fella from that area becomes a pro footballer on the back of Harry Kane in the 2018 world cup, I will hold my hands up and admit that I was wrong.

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

There's also a Thomas Delaney playing for Denmark. That name certainly has more Irish roots than Danish.

There's also Tim Cahill for Australia and a few other names that are Irish in origin. The US has a few Irish named players also. Maguire for England which has already been mentioned, and we can't forget Rooney's big potato head as well, he would still be our captain if he played for us.

Emigration has certainly messed Ireland over for the last 150 years.

gormdubhgorm

Free pint in Molly's in letterfrack every time Harry scores.... (Kane not the Windsor fella)

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/letterfrack-locals-hopeful-of-a-visit-from-england-hero-kane-1.3558102

Marketing genius.....

gormdubhgorm

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

Martin Keown, co commentator for BBC today has two Irish parents, don't think anyone's claiming him as Irish. It would be silly otherwise.

His son has played u21 for Ireland but apparently he wants to switch to NI now.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/niall-keown-switches-allegiance-republic-12566623

Shows how flimsy International football is these days on eligibility rules.

gandalf

I can forgive him for playing for England but not Spurs!!!

Billy86

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

There's also a Thomas Delaney playing for Denmark. That name certainly has more Irish roots than Danish.

American, actually - from his grandad. But he was born and has lived his whole life in Denmark (as has Kane with England) so he'd be more Danish than American

Just chiming in with it because I googled him out of interest when he played them last year, the name definitely stands out.

Deise Vu

I always thought Kane's father was from Galway but the Connacht Tribune article says it was his grandfather. If that's the case it is a minor footnote and should never be mentioned again. My dad was born and raised in Tipperary. They wouldn't make my top 30 favourite hurling county teams.