God created Elon Musk to be a supervillain but forgot to flip the last switch.

RasTa

Musk right now

smurgen

If a guy with little experience can't take the expertise of a professional cave diver with exact applicable experience in the actual area it is going to be applied to how can you trust him to make level headed non emotive decisions on complex, commercial and technological enterprises worth billions?

TheValeyard

See the Diver is now considering legal action. He's right too. You cannot get away with calling someone a pedo with zero basis. Its one of the worst things any man can be accused of!


https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jul/16/british-diver-in-thai-cave-rescue-stunned-after-attack-by-elon-musk

Trasna1

RayCun wrote: »

You don't rent stock. You could buy stock from someone, and they could buy an option on that stock to rebuy at a date in the future. But that's more complicated than short selling.

If Tesla is being shorted, that means there are a lot of people selling the stock. That will exert downward pressure on the stock. But there could be more people who think Tesla will eventually get things right and so want to buy the stock. And the other poster said Musk bought a load of stock himself.

You're wrong on that one Ray, from Wikipedia: In finance, a short sale (also known as a short, shorting, or going short) is the sale of an asset (securities or other financial instrument) that the seller does not own. The seller effects such a sale by borrowing the asset in order to deliver it to the buyer. Subsequently, the resulting short position is "covered" when the seller repurchases the asset in a market transaction and delivers the purchased asset to the lender to replace the quantity initially borrowed.

transylman

Elon makes a very half-hearted apology. Basically, in his view the diver guy was asking for it.

@elonmusk
As this well-written article suggests, my words were spoken in anger after Mr. Unsworth said several untruths & suggested I engage in a sexual act with the mini-sub, which had been built as an act of kindness & according to specifications from the dive team leader.


@elonmusk
Nonetheless, his actions against me do not justify my actions against him, and for that I apologize to Mr. Unsworth and to the companies I represent as leader. The fault is mine and mine alone.

_Dara_

transylman wrote: »

Elon makes a very half-hearted apology. Basically, in his view the diver guy was asking for it.

@elonmusk
As this well-written article suggests, my words were spoken in anger after Mr. Unsworth said several untruths & suggested I engage in a sexual act with the mini-sub, which had been built as an act of kindness & according to specifications from the dive team leader.


@elonmusk
Nonetheless, his actions against me do not justify my actions against him, and for that I apologize to Mr. Unsworth and to the companies I represent as leader. The fault is mine and mine alone.

Terrible apology.

One of them made a crude statement that was not defamatory.

One of them made a crude, defamatory statement.

dense

Twenty Grand wrote: »

There's billions in renewables research and it's very likely we'll be fully renewable in the next 50 years.

Our current grid has plenty of capacity for 30 times the ecars we have right now. Sure the ESB would love if everyone was using electric and charging at night to balance the load.

To put some global context on this, after decades of windmills and other green gimmicks, renewable energy provided just 8% of the world's electricity requirements last year.


https://www.bp.com/en/global/corporate/energy-economics/statistical-review-of-world-energy/renewable-energy/renewable-power.html

sbsquarepants

smurgen wrote: »

If a guy with little experience can't take the expertise of a professional cave diver with exact applicable experience in the actual area it is going to be applied to how can you trust him to make level headed non emotive decisions on complex, commercial and technological enterprises worth billions?

I don't know smurgen, I've got a sneaky feeling that Elon probably knows how to make a few bob!

Sonics2k

dense wrote: »

To put some global context on this, after decades of windmills and other green gimmicks, renewable energy provided just 8% of the world's electricity requirements last year.


https://www.bp.com/en/global/corporate/energy-economics/statistical-review-of-world-energy/renewable-energy/renewable-power.html

I'm not an expert on such things, but when the source of this is coming from BP, and the research appears to have largely been done by BP, can we really say it's accurate?

I mean, the Guardian has a very different figure for the UK:

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/jul/28/record-46-of-uks-electricity-generated-by-clean-energy-sources-in-2015

Twenty Grand

dense wrote: »

To put some global context on this, after decades of windmills and other green gimmicks, renewable energy provided just 8% of the world's electricity requirements last year.


https://www.bp.com/en/global/corporate/energy-economics/statistical-review-of-world-energy/renewable-energy/renewable-power.html

From the same report, renewables doubled from 4 to 8% in 5 years.

If that holds true well be at 100% in 25 years.

Discodog

sbsquarepants wrote: »

I don't know smurgen, I've got a sneaky feeling that Elon probably knows how to make a few bob!

Then he should offer the diver 1 million to donate to the charity of his choice together with a full, genuine apology.

sbsquarepants

Discodog wrote: »

Then he should offer the diver 1 million to donate to the charity of his choice together with a full, genuine apology.

I'm not sure how those two things are connected, but he should probably try be a bit less of an arsehole alright!

Discodog

sbsquarepants wrote: »

I'm not sure how those two things are connected, but he should probably try be a bit less of an arsehole alright!

If the diver has to sue him it will cost time & money. Much better for Elon to issue a full apology & give the money as compensation. I suspect that the diver would donate it.

The high horse brigade

Discodog wrote: »

If the diver has to sue him it will cost time & money. Much better for Elon to issue a full apology & give the money as compensation. I suspect that the diver would donate it.

And then you'd call it a pr stunt....

Discodog

The high horse brigade wrote: »

And then you'd call it a pr stunt....

I would call it a very wise, legal based, decision. This is going to cost him way more than a million. How do you suggest that he redeems himself ? Maybe try to set the guy up & show him as a pedo ?

The high horse brigade

Discodog wrote: »

I would call it a very wise, legal based, decision. This is going to cost him way more than a million. How do you suggest that he redeems himself ? Maybe try to set the guy up & show him as a pedo ?

I don't get too hung up about getting a pound of flesh. He behaved like a dick and then made a public apology. I don't see what a donation would do other than give those who don't like him a stick to beat him with.

Discodog

The high horse brigade wrote: »

I don't get too hung up about getting a pound of flesh. He behaved like a dick and then made a public apology. I don't see what a donation would do other than give those who don't like him a stick to beat him with.

Why would you when you weren't the one accused of being a paedophile ?

sbsquarepants

Discodog wrote: »

I would call it a very wise, legal based, decision. This is going to cost him way more than a million. How do you suggest that he redeems himself ? Maybe try to set the guy up & show him as a pedo ?

Personally I think, if he was to offer a million to this guy all you'd hear is "billionaire arsehole, thinks he can say and do whatever he wants and then just throw money at the problem"

If I loose the head and insult somebody, and then think better of it and apologise (I rarely, if ever, do either by the way!) I wouldn't then reach for my credit card in an effort to further smooth things over - would you?

AndrewJRenko

smurgen wrote: »

If a guy with little experience can't take the expertise of a professional cave diver with exact applicable experience in the actual area it is going to be applied to how can you trust him to make level headed non emotive decisions on complex, commercial and technological enterprises worth billions?

If you watched the recent Denis O'Brien documentary, you'll have seen a very macho environment - nicknames, lots of drinking, lots of sports analogies, lots of bravado bluff and bluster.


I suspect Elon is surrounded by yes men in the same macho environment.

WhiteMemento9

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1026872652290379776

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1026907699760390146

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1026914941004001280

Twenty Grand

Interesting position for the shorts to be in now.

Harry Palmr

and more! The guy is now in serious danger of getting his collar felt. Billionaire madman in jail.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/sep/04/elon-musk-claims-diver-in-thai-cave-rescue-is-child-rapist-without-evidence

https://twitter.com/RMac18/status/1037085208707719169

Dohnjoe

The metamorphosis to supervillain is starting to take shape

DEFTLEFTHAND

Why has Musk taken a set against this guy?

Is it because he laughed at his submarine?

Dohnjoe

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Why has Musk taken a set against this guy?

Is it because he laughed at his submarine?

Yup. It's an ego thing on Musk's side. Now he's just going to a hunch and doesn't give a **** if the guy sues him. He wants to "take the gamble" that his random hunch is right.

Twenty Grand

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Yup. It's an ego thing on Musk's side. Now he's just going to a hunch and doesn't give a **** if the guy sues him. He wants to "take the gamble" that his random hunch is right.

I wonder what will happen if the hunch is right?

The high horse brigade

Twenty Grand wrote: »

I wonder what will happen if the hunch is right?

I was thinking the same thing

prinzeugen

Musk is probably just pissed off that Unsworth (63) has been going out with a 40 year old for the last 7 years.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6132427/Elon-Musk-accuses-British-cave-diver-moving-Thailand-child-bride.html

Discodog

Twenty Grand wrote: »

I wonder what will happen if the hunch is right?

I suspect that, if it were right, Unsworth wouldn't be taking legal action.

Twenty Grand

Twenty Grand wrote: »

I wonder what will happen if the hunch is right?

The high horse brigade wrote: »

I was thinking the same thing

I would imagine that by now there are a number of investigators digging up his past, just to find out, so they could blackmail Vernon Unsworth if the speculation turns out to be true.

MayoForSam

Ah now come on Elon!

https://metro.co.uk/video/elon-musk-smokes-marijuana-joe-rogan-experience-1758392/

So the real reason for a Tesla having an extra large trunk/storage space is the ability to smuggle large quantities of cannabis over the Mexican border at high speeds (or maybe underground in tunnels bored by his own company). He's morphing into Hank Scorpio more and more every day (don't even mention the flamethrowers).

super_furry

He’s all over the place these days. I get the feeling that there’s not going to be a happy ending to the Elon Musk story.

The high horse brigade

MayoForSam wrote: »

Ah now come on Elon!

https://metro.co.uk/video/elon-musk-smokes-marijuana-joe-rogan-experience-1758392/

So the real reason for a Tesla having an extra large trunk/storage space is the ability to smuggle large quantities of cannabis over the Mexican border at high speeds (or maybe underground in tunnels bored by his own company). He's morphing into Hank Scorpio more and more every day (don't even mention the flamethrowers).

Hold on. He's partial to a smoke so it's obvious he's a drug smuggler. Holy sh1t!!!

Twenty Grand

The high horse brigade wrote: »

Hold on. He's partial to a smoke so it's obvious he's a drug smuggler. Holy sh1t!!!

Holy Joe's who've never been to a country where smoke is legal and people haven't degenerated into addicts :rolleyes:

Jim Bob Scratcher

Did he even inhale?

The high horse brigade

Twenty Grand wrote: »

Holy Joe's who've never been to a country where smoke is legal and people haven't degenerated into addicts :rolleyes:

Should we tell them it's legal in silicon valley where people smoke it like we drink pints...

Skylinehead

MayoForSam wrote: »

Ah now come on Elon!

https://metro.co.uk/video/elon-musk-smokes-marijuana-joe-rogan-experience-1758392/

So the real reason for a Tesla having an extra large trunk/storage space is the ability to smuggle large quantities of cannabis over the Mexican border at high speeds (or maybe underground in tunnels bored by his own company). He's morphing into Hank Scorpio more and more every day (don't even mention the flamethrowers).

Compared to the pedo thing, smoking some weed where smoking some weed is legal is literally nothing.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Why do I get the impression that this fella was picked on in adolescence? By guys like Rogan.

He's like a revenge of the nerds character.

Such a cool guy smoking his weed, what a rebel. You'd think he's have the professionalism to stay straight during an interview on a massive podcast.

Jim Bob Scratcher

^^ I believe he was bullied at school

MayoForSam

MayoForSam wrote: »

Ah now come on Elon!

https://metro.co.uk/video/elon-musk-smokes-marijuana-joe-rogan-experience-1758392/

So the real reason for a Tesla having an extra large trunk/storage space is the ability to smuggle large quantities of cannabis over the Mexican border at high speeds (or maybe underground in tunnels bored by his own company). He's morphing into Hank Scorpio more and more every day (don't even mention the flamethrowers).

Maybe he's researching some materials for the next generation of batteries. :P

https://www.cannabistech.com/articles/the-hemp-battery-performs-better-than-the-lithium-battery/

An experiment was conducted to perform a comparison check on the performance of hemp batteries and lithium batteries. The hemp battery and the lithium battery was connected in the circuit at separate times and three curves were monitored – one the Amps curve, the second being the Volts curve and the third one being the Volts by Amps curve with the sampling record set to be once every second for a total of ½ hour. The test was conducted by stressing both – the hemp as well as the lithium cells in the same equipment to the same degrees.

archer22

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Why has Musk taken a set against this guy?

Is it because he laughed at his submarine?

You could hardly blame someone for laughing when they opened the box and saw that Musk had sent a giant dildo.

But then what would you expect a prick like Musk to come up with.

DEFTLEFTHAND

I'm going to play armchair psychologist here. :P

Musk man wanted the praise and adulation for the Thai rescue.

Instead it fell to tough macho Navy men. The type of guys who bullied Musk in adolescence.

Muahahaha

Shares in Telsa down 7% today, said to be on the news that the chief accounting officer has resigned after only a month in the job and the footage of Musk smoking a spliff on Joe Rogan.

Malayalam

Muahahaha wrote: »

Shares in Telsa down 7% today, said to be on the news that the chief accounting officer has resigned after only a month in the job and the footage of Musk smoking a spliff on Joe Rogan.

Crazy. The only reason people should be resigning from Tesla is because Musk was worse on that podcast than Zuckerberg was recently at pretending to be human. What an awkward guy. ''My head, my head, like a constant bomb exploding, so full of endless ideas, it's unimaginable, no one else could bear it, since a kid, imagine what it's like, we dig holes in the parking lot....'' - oh, shut up Elon, you silly billy. And he did not inhale, he was like an alien probing the habits of the species. Weirdo.

I quite like that the owner of Tesla is as eccentric as the actual Tesla.. It doesn't affect me at all, though I'll admit that six months ago, I thought the guy was great. I still do because of SpaceX, but now I also know he's just lost it.

Oafley Jones

Muahahaha wrote: »

Shares in Telsa down 7% today, said to be on the news that the chief accounting officer has resigned after only a month in the job and the footage of Musk smoking a spliff on Joe Rogan.

That’s over 60 executives that have left the company in the past year. Tesla has long had a reputation as a **** show of a place to work, but it seems to have gone completely off (along with Musk) the rails now.

Agent Coulson

He’s going to end up in Belize and do a John McAffe soon.

The high horse brigade

I just watched it, he took one drag and blew most of it out didn't really inhale. Laughable that people are making any sort of deal about this. Doubt he even got a buzz or felt any effects

dense

The high horse brigade wrote: »

I just watched it, he took one drag and blew most of it out didn't really inhale. Laughable that people are making any sort of deal about this. Doubt he even got a buzz or felt any effects

What's he doing it for then, why is he going through the motions??