Selective reporting

Brae100

Wtf is going on with reporting these days? Sarah Healy had also already won her first gold for the 3000m in the European U-18 championships and apparently didn't deserve a mention. Sophie O'Sullivan is Sonia's daughter, let's mention her. Adeleke is a migrant so we absolutely have to have her in the headline. Sarah Healy? Ordinary Irish girl. Meh. Let's wait until she wins her second gold and then we might mention her. Sarah went on to win her second gold in the 1500m today.

https://m.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/athletics/sophie-osullivan-wins-silver-to-add-to-15yearold-rhasidat-adelekes-gold-for-ireland-at-european-championships-37091300.html

Tis Yourself?

They are people out there who still read the lugenpresse?

YFlyer

Brae100 wrote: »

Wtf is going on with reporting these days? Sarah Healy had also already won her first gold for the 3000m in the European U-18 championships and apparently didn't deserve a mention. Sophie O'Sullivan is Sonia's daughter, let's mention her. Adeleke is a migrant so we absolutely have to have her in the headline. Sarah Healy? Ordinary Irish girl. Meh. Let's wait until she wins her second gold and then we might mention her. Sarah went on to win her second gold in the 1500m today.

https://m.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/athletics/sophie-osullivan-wins-silver-to-add-to-15yearold-rhasidat-adelekes-gold-for-ireland-at-european-championships-37091300.html

That was Saturday results. Sarah won on both Friday and Sunday. She will wipe Sonia records in time.

StupidLikeAFox

Here is an article she had all to herself, on the day she actually raced:
https://m.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/athletics/healy-underlines-supreme-talent-with-golden-run-37089782.html

And then they even gave her a second article when she secured the other gold medal:
https://m.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/athletics/irelands-sarah-healy-wins-her-second-gold-medal-and-smashes-record-in-the-1500m-at-european-championships-37093506.html

YFlyer

Brae100 wrote: »

Wtf is going on with reporting these days? Sarah Healy had also already won her first gold for the 3000m in the European U-18 championships and apparently didn't deserve a mention. Sophie O'Sullivan is Sonia's daughter, let's mention her. Adeleke is a migrant so we absolutely have to have her in the headline. Sarah Healy? Ordinary Irish girl. Meh. Let's wait until she wins her second gold and then we might mention her. Sarah went on to win her second gold in the 1500m today.

https://m.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/athletics/sophie-osullivan-wins-silver-to-add-to-15yearold-rhasidat-adelekes-gold-for-ireland-at-european-championships-37091300.html

Correction Sarah Healy was mentioned in two paragraphs. What's the issue?

benjamin d

You're reading the independent, so that's your first problem as it's pure gutter trash and you'd be better off reading the Sun.

Sarah Healy has been the main sports story on RTE all day and has been getting major coverage in the Irish Times for months now.

All the usual tabloid sites like Joe.ie, The 42 and Balls have been covering Healy well too.

Brae100

YFlyer wrote: »

That was Saturday results. Sarah won on both Friday and Sunday. She will wipe Sonia records in time.

The Indo's headline literally said:

"Sophie O'Sullivan wins silver to add to 15-year-old Rhasidat Adeleke's gold for Ireland at European Championships".

No mention or hint that this latest medal was only for the Saturday. It's pure nonsense. Sarah won a gold the previous day and no mention of it. Since when has the Irish press only ever commented on national success in an international competition based on specific daily results?

Agreed about Sarah's prospects. Phenomenal talent.

Noveight

The further in to the gutter you go the less decent reporting you'll find.

This weeks Irish Mail on Sunday had a near-full page story about a bloke shooting an otter on page 5. I lolled.

Brae100

YFlyer wrote: »

Correction Sarah Healy was mentioned in two paragraphs. What's the issue?

There is no mention of Sarah in the article I cited.

Brae100

StupidLikeAFox wrote: »

Here is an article she had all to herself, on the day she actually raced:
https://m.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/athletics/healy-underlines-supreme-talent-with-golden-run-37089782.html

And then they even gave her a second article when she secured the other gold medal:
https://m.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/athletics/irelands-sarah-healy-wins-her-second-gold-medal-and-smashes-record-in-the-1500m-at-european-championships-37093506.html

That's irrelevant. There was a headline article published after Sarah had already won a gold and they didn't even mention her. They mentioned Sophie's sivler and Rhasidat's gold, but absolutely no mention of Sarah's gold the previous day or her chance of gold the next day. Why?

Junkyard Tom

Brae100 wrote: »

Adeleke is a migrant so we absolutely have to have her in the headline.

She's Irish.

benjamin d

Brae100 wrote: »

That's irrelevant. There was a headline article published after Sarah had already won a gold and they didn't even mention her. They mentioned Sophie's sivler and Rhasidat's gold, but absolutely no mention of Sarah's gold the previous day or her chance of gold the next day. Why?

Here's the headline article after she won her first gold on Friday: https://m.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/athletics/healy-underlines-supreme-talent-with-golden-run-37089782.html

Here's today's article on her second gold. It's currently the second story after the Leinster hurling final:
https://m.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/athletics/irelands-sarah-healy-wins-her-second-gold-medal-and-smashes-record-in-the-1500m-at-european-championships-37093506.html

The article you linked was from yesterday, so the day between her two gold medal runs when other Irish athletes were performing, and Healy still gets mentioned. I don't see the problem tbh...

benjamin d

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

She's Irish.

Getting to the real motive for this thread here I suspect. Hoping to be corrected.

StupidLikeAFox

Brae100 wrote: »

That's irrelevant. There was a headline article published after Sarah had already won a gold and they didn't even mention her. They mentioned Sophie's sivler and Rhasidat's gold, but absolutely no mention of Sarah's gold the previous day or her chance of gold the next day. Why?

The report you linked to was related to Saturdays results. Sarah Healy wasn't racing on Saturday. They did give a mention to Sarah Healy in the last paragraph btw.

Sarah Healy was racing on Friday and Sunday and they dedicated articles to her on both days. I know it doesn't fit whatever conspiracy theory you are alluding to but thems the facts

Congrats to all competitors in any case!

Brae100

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

She's Irish.

Of course she is, but she is of migrant origin so is of more interest to the headline writers. If Sarah was wearing a Hijab you can bet that her new would also have been in that headline.

benjamin d

Brae100 wrote: »

Of course she is, but she is of migrant origin so is of more interest to the headline writers. If Sarah was wearing a Hijab you can bet that her new would also have been in that headline.

There we go.

Dude, these girls are still technically and legally children, and they're all flying our flag proudly and exceptionally. Lay off the agenda and take pride in our athletes.

Brae100

benjamin d wrote: »

Getting to the real motive for this thread here I suspect. Hoping to be corrected.

Yes. Daughter's of celebrities or daughters of migrants are seemingly more newsworthy.

Junkyard Tom

Brae100 wrote: »

Of course she is, but she is of migrant origin so is of more interest to the headline writers. If Sarah was wearing a Hijab you can bet that her new would also have been in that headline.

Yes, yes it's a gosh-darn conspiracy by the liberal media to, eh... cultural marxist, snowflake, George Soros, Islam, or something.

super_furry

Brae100 wrote: »

Wtf is going on with reporting these days? Sarah Healy had also already won her first gold for the 3000m in the European U-18 championships and apparently didn't deserve a mention. Sophie O'Sullivan is Sonia's daughter, let's mention her. Adeleke is a migrant so we absolutely have to have her in the headline. Sarah Healy? Ordinary Irish girl. Meh. Let's wait until she wins her second gold and then we might mention her. Sarah went on to win her second gold in the 1500m today.

https://m.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/athletics/sophie-osullivan-wins-silver-to-add-to-15yearold-rhasidat-adelekes-gold-for-ireland-at-european-championships-37091300.html

The only selectively reporting here is from you.

You’re linking to Saturday’s report when Sarah Healy didn’t run until Sunday. Unless the Indo has a time machine they’re going to be struggling.

Meanwhile here’s Sunday’s report and surprise, surprise it’s all about Sarah Healy https://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/athletics/irelands-sarah-healy-wins-her-second-gold-medal-and-smashes-record-in-the-1500m-at-european-championships-37093506.html

Oh and here’s Friday’s report and surprise, surprise it’s all about Sarah Healy https://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/athletics/healy-underlines-supreme-talent-with-golden-run-37089782.html

You pick the one day she’s not running and then whine that she’s being ignored.

Seems like you have an agenda here, and you are both lying and misrepresenting facts so you can have a go at Muslims.

Brae100

benjamin d wrote: »

There we go.

Dude, these girls are still technically and legally children, and they're all flying our flag proudly and exceptionally. Lay off the agenda and take pride in our athletes.

What has that got to do with the point I am making about the press being selective about how they report events? Ireland won three gold medals at the European U-18 championships. A huge achievement.

An article was published in our main newspaper and it didn't even mention the athlete who had already won on gold and went on to win a second. Instead, they went with the more socially interesting aspect of Sonia's daughter and the daughter of a migrant. In the sport pages. If you don't see a problem with this, good luck to you in expecting honest reporting in the future.

benjamin d

Brae100 wrote: »

What has that got to do with the point I am making about the press being selective about how they report events? Ireland won three gold medals at the European U-18 championships. A huge achievement.

An article was published in our main newspaper and it didn't even mention the athlete who had already won on gold and went on to win a second. Instead, they went with the more socially interesting aspect of Sonia's daughter and the daughter of a migrant. In the sport pages. If you don't see a problem with this, good luck to you in expecting honest reporting in the future.

It's been explained to you with links and dates by several people on this thread.

Healy has come in for particular praise in the media and is on the verge of becoming a genuine star in Ireland - which I hope is dampened as she's too young and as yet only has potential to go far so we need to manage expectations.

I'd have more respect for you if you made your racist motive clear from the outset and didn't try to frame it in the context of young underage athletes.

super_furry

Brae100 wrote: »

What has that got to do with the point I am making about the press being selective about how they report events? Ireland won three gold medals at the European U-18 championships. A huge achievement.

An article was published in our main newspaper and it didn't even mention the athlete who had already won on gold and went on to win a second. Instead, they went with the more socially interesting aspect of Sonia's daughter and the daughter of a migrant. In the sport pages. If you don't see a problem with this, good luck to you in expecting honest reporting in the future.

Seriously, give up the pretence and just be honest - you want to whinge about a black girl representing Ireland.

It’s laughable that you’re crying about selective reporting when you pick the one single news story from the meet that doesn’t mention Sarah Healy so you can have another thinly veiled attack on Muslims.

Muahahaha

If you think Athletics has it bad in the media OP then consider motorsports. The only time they report on Irish motorsports is when someone gets killed. Thousands of people attend these events but unless someone dies the Irish media pretend it doesnt exist.

WinnyThePoo

Massive fail by op. Great success for our athletes though.

Omackeral

Brae100 wrote: »

There is no mention of Sarah in the article I cited.

There is. I haven't clicked any other article other than the one you posted!

Adeleke's victory comes less than 24 hours after Sarah Healy secured Ireland's first gold of the Championships.

Healy created a little piece of athletics history last night by becoming the first Irish athlete to win gold at the European U-18 Championships, the 17-year-old Dubliner obliterating her rivals in the girls' 3,000m to win in a championship record of 9:18.05.

_Dara_

The only one I heard about on the news was Sarah Healy, OP.

padser

It does seem like a lot of success for Irish athletes which is great to see.

Have we finally for our act together and put a proper "medication" program going to allow our athletes to compete with the worlds elites?

YFlyer

Brae100 wrote: »

The Indo's headline literally said:

"Sophie O'Sullivan wins silver to add to 15-year-old Rhasidat Adeleke's gold for Ireland at European Championships".

No mention or hint that this latest medal was only for the Saturday. It's pure nonsense. Sarah won a gold the previous day and no mention of it. Since when has the Irish press only ever commented on national success in an international competition based on specific daily results?

Agreed about Sarah's prospects. Phenomenal talent.

From the article you put up.

Healy created a little piece of athletics history last night by becoming the first Irish athlete to win gold at the European U-18 Championships, the 17-year-old Dubliner obliterating her rivals in the girls' 3,000m to win in a championship record of 9:18.05.

HalloweenJack

Riot police got called to the tourist part of Benidorm in Spain on Saturday evening to calm down the England fans. Bars had to be shut down to make sure they couldn't get any more alcohol. Didn't see a word of this on the BBC.. A quick Google shows the Sun and the DM downplaying the behaviour and focusing on a police office who batoned a guy carrying his kid.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

It's more like selective outrage. You're either reading the wrong papers, reading on the wrong day, or looking for something to complain about. There was plenty about Sarah in the papers .

Bob Harris

Noveight wrote: »

The further in to the gutter you go the less decent reporting you'll find.

This weeks Irish Mail on Sunday had a near-full page story about a bloke shooting an otter on page 5. I lolled.

Wtf were you doing reading that rag?

Pherekydes

Brae100 wrote: »

It's pure nonsense. Sarah won a gold the previous day and no mention of it.

There was an article published by the Indo the day before the O'Sullivan one, as mentioned in a previous post.

Since when has the Irish press only ever commented on national success in an international competition based on specific daily results?

All the time.

qwerty ui op

Brae100 wrote: »

Wtf is going on with reporting these days? Sarah Healy had also already won her first gold for the 3000m in the European U-18 championships and apparently didn't deserve a mention. Sophie O'Sullivan is Sonia's daughter, let's mention her. Adeleke is a migrant so we absolutely have to have her in the headline. Sarah Healy? Ordinary Irish girl. Meh. Let's wait until she wins her second gold and then we might mention her. Sarah went on to win her second gold in the 1500m today.

The Irish team are planning a homecoming op. You should go with your tri-colour and cheer on our national heros.
Nothing ordinary about any of these young women it is you and me the ordinary Irish people who will wave our flags and look up to our national heros on the podium.
Sophie, Adeleke and Sarah are now role models for us and our children.

Pherekydes

super_furry wrote: »

...another thinly veiled attack on Muslims.

WTF?

Adeleke was, I believe, born here of Nigerian parents, and is almost certainly Christian.

Pherekydes

padser wrote: »

It does seem like a lot of success for Irish athletes which is great to see.

Have we finally for our act together and put a proper "medication" program going to allow our athletes to compete with the worlds elites?

Are you asking if Athletics Ireland and Sport Ireland are drugging 15-17 year olds?

Donald Trump

Bob Harris wrote: »

Noveight wrote: »

The further in to the gutter you go the less decent reporting you'll find.

This weeks Irish Mail on Sunday had a near-full page story about a bloke shooting an otter on page 5. I lolled.

Wtf were you doing reading that rag?

Where else are you going to find a reputable source for otter news? Duh






OP, I for one welcome an influx of new genes into the country. Some of these dirty fordeners have even lovelier bottoms than our own lovely girls

Lux23

This thread should be closed, the OP is trying to be offended by the sake of it. A story about a successful, black track and field athlete - on my lord.

Donald Trump

Lux23 wrote: »

This thread should be closed, the OP is trying to be offended by the sake of it. A story about a successful, black track and field athlete - on my lord.

Better to leave it open and take the piss out of him for it - no?

padd b1975

It's a bit strange that Sophie uses her mother's maiden name, is it not?

Assetbacked

OP your problem is that you still think media outlets should be impartial or at least unbiased. All popular media outlets have abandoned unbiased and impartial coverage. One must just learn not to believe everything one reads.

El Weirdo

Assetbacked wrote: »

One must just learn not to believe everything one reads.

Especially if it's written by the OP, it would seem.

Donald Trump

Assetbacked wrote: »

OP your problem is that you still think media outlets should be impartial or at least unbiased. All popular media outlets have abandoned unbiased and impartial coverage. One must just learn not to believe everything one reads.

So you're telling us the black girl didn't actually win a medal? Or that she didn't even race.




I feckin' knew it. Comin' over here and feckin' being born here and growing up here and then stealing our headlines :mad: .

Assetbacked

Clearly O'Sullivan is the immigrant - born and bred in Oz!

Lux23

padd b1975 wrote: »

It's a bit strange that Sophie uses her mother's maiden name, is it not?

Why is it odd? I don't think she was married when Sophie was born.

padd b1975

Lux23 wrote: »

Why is it odd? I don't think she was married when Sophie was born.

Ah right, I didn't know that.

Billy86

Assetbacked wrote: »

Clearly O'Sullivan is the immigrant - born and bred in Oz!

No no no no no no no no no no no.

She's white, you see.

InReality

where is the op gone ?lol

TIL selective reading problem > selective reporting problem.

Junkyard Tom

Fair play to these young Irish women.


Source: Gary Carr/INPHO

thebull85

padser wrote: »

It does seem like a lot of success for Irish athletes which is great to see.

Have we finally for our act together and put a proper "immigration" program going to allow our athletes to compete with the worlds elites?

FYP

The Rape of Lucretia

Brae100 wrote: »

Wtf is going on with reporting these days?

In short, its athletics.
A sport that disappeared down the peds plug hole years ago, and, rightly, most people have no interest in any more. Its really just a pharmaceutical contest of calculated risk/reward on how close the limit lines you want to try to get to without being caught. Or, to be really successful, with big resources behind you, dosing stuff that is on the cutting edge of being undetectable, or isnt even known about by the authorities to even try to test for.
So reporters arent really reporting on the sport result per se - there has to be some other catch to make it news worthy these days - daughter of a former high profile athlete, coloured girl competing for Ireland, or other such curiosities.