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DaveyDave

Hi all,

Need to get a bag of coffee as a gift for a drip machine, not sure what grind to get from 3fe? Espresso, Aeropress, pour over, chemex, French press?

adam240610

ting_tang wrote: »

Planning to order some with decaf from 3fe, which one would you recommend?
Thank you!

The El Yakon is really good, haven't tried any others. I recall having to go a bit courser for filter than most other coffees but that might just be a thing with decaf but can't say much on that topic.

karlitob

ting_tang wrote: »

How much coffee for 45/50€?

The cheapest freshly roasted coffee, I found for now, around ~6.5€ for 250gr, some roasters can offer discount for 1kg bags (i.e. 6.5€ for 250 gr, and 25€ for 1 kg). Even with that one you will notice the huge difference in taste.
Do you have a grinder for your reusable pod?

Ah, 2 packs of 227g of Tesco finest; and 8 boxes of 20 capsules. Can get a grinder but wondering if the reusable pods are useful?

ting_tang

karlitob wrote: »

Ah, 2 packs of 227g of Tesco finest; and 8 boxes of 20 capsules. Can get a grinder but wondering if the reusable pods are useful?

Never used pods, but for Aeropress and v60 I need at least 15gr per cup, so 2kg of coffee won't cover your requirements. If you want to stick with your budget, try for now to replace Tesco finest only with half kilo of freshly roasted coffee in beans. You need beans to get the most from freshly roasted coffee. Also you need a burr grinder. You can start with some Hario grinders(starts from ~30€) for filter/aeropress etc. If you would like to invest more: Baratza Encore(~150€, not too good for an espresso) or more expensive Eureka series (starts from ~200€) are examples of starter grinders. Or you can get some high end manual grinder. 1zpresso jx(~170€), Kinu(starts from ~200€), Comandante(~250€) etc..

alec76

ting_tang wrote: »

Never used pods, but for Aeropress and v60 I need at least 15gr per cup, so 2kg of coffee won't cover your requirements.

There is only about 4-5g of coffee per every Nespresso pod though, if I remember it right.

caviardreams

To dip your toe in the water try a bag of freshly roaster and ground coffee from a local cafe and see if you like it, and if it is worth the increased cost. If you let us know your general location someone could probably advise somewhere near that might have good beans.

breeno

ting_tang wrote: »

Never used pods, but for Aeropress and v60 I need at least 15gr per cup, so 2kg of coffee won't cover your requirements. If you want to stick with your budget, try for now to replace Tesco finest only with half kilo of freshly roasted coffee in beans. You need beans to get the most from freshly roasted coffee. Also you need a burr grinder. You can start with some Hario grinders(starts from ~30€) for filter/aeropress etc. If you would like to invest more: Baratza Encore(~150€, not too good for an espresso) or more expensive Eureka series (starts from ~200€) are examples of starter grinders. Or you can get some high end manual grinder. 1zpresso jx(~170€), Kinu(starts from ~200€), Comandante(~250€) etc..

Have you or anyone here any experience of the Timemore C2 hand grinder? Reviews look good and it looks quite reasonable in price(especially via Aliexpress but even Amazon will do it €80-90 quid.) I've got a Hario Mini Mill that I'm looking to upgrade and if I could do it without breaking the bank I'd be delighted! Would be for v60, AP and Clever Dripper so no need for espresso grind etc. Any other 'value' recommendations also welcomed.

killbillvol2

Ordered from Dreambeans on Monday night to try it out. Arrived this morning, roasted Monday.

caviardreams

breeno wrote: »

Have you or anyone here any experience of the Timemore C2 hand grinder? Reviews look good and it looks quite reasonable in price(especially via Aliexpress but even Amazon will do it €80-90 quid.) I've got a Hario Mini Mill that I'm looking to upgrade and if I could do it without breaking the bank I'd be delighted! Would be for v60, AP and Clever Dripper so no need for espresso grind etc. Any other 'value' recommendations also welcomed.

If you are not looking for espresso, and willing to spend €90 or so, I'd try and stretch to €120 and get the wilfa svart aroma - might even get it a little cheaper than that 110-115 if you shop around.

caviardreams

caviardreams wrote: »

If you are not looking for espresso, and willing to spend €90 or so, I'd try and stretch to €120 and get the wilfa svart aroma - might even get it a little cheaper than that 110-115 if you shop around.

Yep I love using my hand grinder but an electric grinder is worth looking at in that price range. It saves so much time. Have the wilfa svart and love it.

breeno

The Wilfa seems to be sold out everywhere unfortunately. Anything else compare to it in the price range?

alec76

breeno wrote: »

The Wilfa seems to be sold out everywhere unfortunately. Anything else compare to it in the price range?

Nope , why do you think it’s sold out everywhere?
Baratza Encore would cost €150 plus.

caviardreams

alec76 wrote: »

Nope , why do you think it’s sold out everywhere?
Baratza Encore would cost €150 plus.

In fairness, it's Out of stock in Bell Lane, Velo, Coffee Angel, Silverskin, Bean Delivered & Brewbox!

KnicksInSix

I bought the Svart Silver a few weeks back when WCC had the 10% off code and I can't believe I went a whole year hand cranking coffee (albeit with a decent hand grinder). It's totally changed my enjoyment of coffee and tbh I can properly appreciate why more expensive grinders may be worth it for some people.

Off to Italy for six weeks on Saturday so no big Christmas coffee orders for me Looking forward to proper €1 espresso though

cnocbui

Talguetler wrote: »

I bought the Svart Silver a few weeks back when WCC had the 10% off code and I can't believe I went a whole year hand cranking coffee (albeit with a decent hand grinder). It's totally changed my enjoyment of coffee and tbh I can properly appreciate why more expensive grinders may be worth it for some people.

Off to Italy for six weeks on Saturday so no big Christmas coffee orders for me Looking forward to proper €1 espresso though

Good place to pick up a grinder.

breeno

Last question on grinders. Is the benefit of electric over hand grinding purely speed and time related or would they be better grinders as well? I quite like the hand grinder personally albeit I want a new improved one.

Bawnmore

Aside from the speed/time/effort factor, I found quality shot up when I switched to an electric burr grinder. I was using a Hario for about a year which was great, but I'd never (ever) go back to it.

That said, it sits happily in my travel coffee gear and will be coming to the inlaws alongside an aeropress for Christmas with me.

ting_tang

breeno wrote: »

Last question on grinders. Is the benefit of electric over hand grinding purely speed and time related or would they be better grinders as well? I quite like the hand grinder personally albeit I want a new improved one.

You get a better ground quality with a hand grinder for the same price. In a price range €100+. Also you need to manage a ground retention in electric ones, which you won't have with a hand grinder. But that's actual important only if you drink an espresso. I wouldn't say that hand grinders are too slow, it depends from burr size. I.e. I need less than 30secs to grind 18gr for an espresso with my hand grinder.

Enrico Palazzo

Bawnmore wrote: »

Aside from the speed/time/effort factor, I found quality shot up when I switched to an electric burr grinder. I was using a Hario for about a year which was great, but I'd never (ever) go back to it.

Hario and similar ceramic burr grinders are way overrated in my opinion and I would recommend them only to people on a very tight budget if they can get it for say under €30. I understand how your experience must have gotten better with the upgrade, but that was to be expected as Hario is a toy that somehow ended up being commonly regarded as the cheapest decent grinder.

Weepsie

If the Hario Skerton and Mini's are good enough for the likes of James Hoffman they're good enough for me and most others. Now I've had 2 Skerton's and 1 was slightly better than the other. The mini mill is excellent and takes a beating. They're a complete faff if you want to change grind type though.

I have them for office and traveling but would like an upgrade too.

Bigbooty

A burr grinder is the single most important purchase a home barista can make. No point in spending money on good coffee or equipment if your grinder is ****e. I hesitated as I had the inferior bodum burr grinder and eventually bought a Baratza Virtuoso. I always felt why didn't I just do it sooner. If you've got the money and are actually into coffee then buy a good grinder. Don't cheap out as you get what you pay for.

Weepsie

Also, got Guatemala La Providencia from Bailies. I've had it in Aeropress and plan on having it through the V60 later. It seems super intense at first to me, but in a good way. It's exactly how I want a black coffee to taste to be honest.

It's not recommend with Milk, but I think it would make great milk based coffee drinks.

Enrico Palazzo

Weepsie wrote: »

If the Hario Skerton and Mini's are good enough for the likes of James Hoffman they're good enough for me and most others. Now I've had 2 Skerton's and 1 was slightly better than the other. The mini mill is excellent and takes a beating. They're a complete faff if you want to change grind type though.

I have them for office and traveling but would like an upgrade too.

I went through two Minis (apparently similar quality to Skerton, if I'm not mistaken) and they both had the same issues. The burr column has tons of slack and remains wobbly as mad even with the rubber band mod. The grind quality suffers and so the user's arm. Proper hand grinder takes less than half of Hario's time to grind the same amount of beans with what feels like less than half the effort and feels vastly more premium. Mini takes a beating? Not from my experience - the bottom container fell on the floor only once and shattered. There is much more of a difference in quality between Hario and a decent quality under €100 hand grinder than between the latter and some high-end manual grinder like Commandante. But hey, I don't mind if you would rather follow Hoffman's judgement on this, he's a sound guy all right.

Bawnmore

Enrico Palazzo wrote: »

Hario and similar ceramic burr grinders are way overrated in my opinion and I would recommend them only to people on a very tight budget if they can get it for say under €30. I understand how your experience must have gotten better with the upgrade, but that was to be expected as Hario is a toy that somehow ended up being commonly regarded as the cheapest decent grinder.

It was a Mini Mill in my case as well and I take your point - I have no experience with higher end hand grinders. I think regardless of it being less effort and better grind quality, I'd find it hard to go back to a hand grinder for situations which don't require it (office/travel etc.) if the price was similar to a good electric burr grinder.

KnicksInSix

I ordered a few bags of coffee from Ponaire on Monday as gifts for my in laws and they arrived on Friday. Didn't even open the box as I had to pack them away. Went to make coffee this morning and the roast dates are all between 20-26th November. In a way I'm kinda annoyed but I guess I have been spoiled this year with plenty of recent roasts from Irish roasters.

colly10

Hi, I just picked up a sage barista express and was wondering if you’d have any recommendations of good subscriptions for coffee beans?
Want to avoid the UK cause that might get messy with brexit on the way

cnocbui

colly10 wrote: »

Hi, I just picked up a sage barista express and was wondering if you’d have any recommendations of good subscriptions for coffee beans?
Want to avoid the UK cause that might get messy with brexit on the way

The Uk is situation as normal, I would imagine, with a no trade tariffs deal now being done.

cnocbui

cnocbui wrote: »

The Uk is situation as normal, I would imagine, with a no trade tariffs deal now being done.

Would be a bit more complicated, they'd have to be charging Irish vat on their side and be revenue compliant from what I gather. Plus filling in the various documentation on their end. This is fine for Amazon but smaller shops are unlikely to be great for this. Definitely wouldn't be taking the risk atm.

cnocbui

Deleted User wrote: »

Would be a bit more complicated, they'd have to be charging Irish vat on their side and be revenue compliant from what I gather. Plus filling in the various documentation on their end. This is fine for Amazon but smaller shops are unlikely to be great for this. Definitely wouldn't be taking the risk atm.

How does that work? Amazon have been charging Irish VAT and remitting it for some years. Adams and Russel charged me no vat on my last purchase, which I have posted to a NI parcelwizard address. I really doubt anything is going to change. This is an agreement beyween the EU and UK, and much as Revenue have a strong propensity for flipping the EU the bird, I doubt they are going to in this instance.

When I buy from Luxembourg, the MSWT is 3%.

alec76

I am not sure if there is a proper clarification about VAT between Nothern Ireland and Great Britain yet.
Sellers from North ( Bailies roasters should be ok I think )
as for the Amazon.co.uk it is definitely no difference for us,apart from the items we used buy through ParcelMotel , AdressPal etc.

caviardreams

alec76 wrote: »

as for the Amazon.co.uk it is definitely no difference for us,apart from the items we used buy through ParcelMotel , AdressPal etc.

Just to note parcel motel is no longer offering a service via NI and addresspal charge €7 I believe so may not be much of a cost saving.

I would say, there are LOADS of great Irish coffee roasters so great to support these business who have been offering fast shipping and excellent service in most cases over the past 9 months (and longer obviously, but the challenges of operating a business must be significant of late!) Even if it means paying a bit extra in some cases, it creates jobs and supports a really great industry - I think we are actually blessed in Ireland with the quality of roasters and coffee shops in a lot of cases.

I'm going with either WCC, Velo or badger & dodo's single origin sub for the first 6 months of 2021 I think!

mossym

exactly, huge choice of irish suppliers, probably one a lot closer to you than you think. why are you thinking of uk?

killbillvol2

cnocbui wrote: »

How does that work? Amazon have been charging Irish VAT and remitting it for some years. Adams and Russel charged me no vat on my last purchase, which I have posted to a NI parcelwizard address. I really doubt anything is going to change. This is an agreement beyween the EU and UK, and much as Revenue have a strong propensity for flipping the EU the bird, I doubt they are going to in this instance.

When I buy from Luxembourg, the MSWT is 3%.

Parcel Wizard is gone, so is Parcel Motel through NI. Amazon are set up for selling to Ireland. Most smaller UK businesses haven't a clue what the new rules are. In fact a lot of huge British companies have said they won't be dealing with NI until they figure out what's going on and are not inclined to do the extra paperwork.

It's not like there's nowhere to buy good coffee in Ireland.

alec76

It is mostly about coffee tools/hardware Iam worry about, hardly ever bought coffee from UK,apart from bailies , of course.
https://www.bellabarista.co.uk/
great source for the spare parts , ordered driving belt and pulley for my VARIO recently.

Newtown90

Called in to Cafe Moly yesterday in Douglas Street, Cork while I was down at the inlaws.

Opened at the start of December, cool little spot and have their roaster on the shop floor.

Gota bag of their Velvet Espresso blend.

Tabby McTat

mossym wrote: »

exactly, huge choice of irish suppliers, probably one a lot closer to you than you think. why are you thinking of uk?

+1 on this. You really don’t need to look further than Irish suppliers/roasters. So many good ones around. You’ll see Ponaire, West Cork Coffee, Cloud Picker, Badger & Dodo recommended a lot here. Coffee Angel is a favourite of mine (not technically a roaster as they sell white-labelled Bailies beans) as they offer same-day/next-day delivery in Dublin.

Klopp

The previous year I bought a lot of Coffee trying different roasters and varieties, this year I am going to find a Coffee I like and stick to it for a while longer, trying to dial in on new beans each time on the SB can be a nightmare.



I ordered Indian Monsoon Malabar from Artofcoffee.

Klopp

Klopp wrote: »

The previous year I bought a lot of Coffee trying different roasters and varieties, this year I am going to find a Coffee I like and stick to it for a while longer, trying to dial in on new beans each time on the SB can be a nightmare.



I ordered Indian Monsoon Malabar from Artofcoffee.

Confession for me, I jump coffees a lot. I enjoy them plenty but if you were to ask me to describe the taste,I really could not.

Klopp

Deleted User wrote: »

Confession for me, I jump coffees a lot. I enjoy them plenty but if you were to ask me to describe the taste,I really could not.

Lol i am the same. I can tell more what is a bad Coffee than a good.

Glebee

Asked someone to pick up some Bell Lane coffee for me just before Christmas who happened to be in their area., roast date Sept 2020. Was a small bit disappointed with that roast date when picking up direct.

cnocbui

mossym wrote: »

exactly, huge choice of irish suppliers, probably one a lot closer to you than you think. why are you thinking of uk?

I don't feel particularly inclined to buy at Irish prices for anything, coffee included. I also find the quality/taste from about half the few irish roasters I have tried to be lacking in terms of value for money.

To be fair, I also found Adams and Russel to be a bit variable in quality. I was really impressed by their Indian Tiger Stripes the first couple of times I ordered it, but after a hiatus, the latest lot didn't seem like the same thing at all, making me wonder if the names mean anything much. However, their lower pricing made that ok.

Price/quality wise, I'm turning to the continent. The most consistent quality I have got is from a roaster in Luxembourg. My next order will likely be from kaffeerösterei-hochschwarzwald.de, as they have the Indian Pearl Mountain that should be the same as the Velo Ratnagiri Estate Catuai Aldi were selling recently and which I like a lot.

Gooey Looey

Klopp wrote: »

The previous year I bought a lot of Coffee trying different roasters and varieties, this year I am going to find a Coffee I like and stick to it for a while longer, trying to dial in on new beans each time on the SB can be a nightmare.



I ordered Indian Monsoon Malabar from Artofcoffee.

If you're into espresso try their fusion blend. It's my regular coffee. I jump to others every so often but always come back to fusion

Fall_Guy

Glebee wrote: »

Asked someone to pick up some Bell Lane coffee for me just before Christmas who happened to be in their area., roast date Sept 2020. Was a small bit disappointed with that roast date when picking up direct.

Thats mad, I ordered their house blend in the first week of December and the roast date was only a few days prior to order.

CWF

Fall_Guy wrote: »

Thats mad, I ordered their house blend in the first week of December and the roast date was only a few days prior to order.

Yeah same here.

Hodors Appletart

there is no vat due on coffee

FileNotFound

Hodors Appletart wrote: »

there is no vat due on coffee

Maybe not - but the delivery was always my issue - Rave cost 18 pound for delivery of my usual order - whereas it was 4 euro via parcel motel.

Hope one of the companies gets back up and going again

NATLOR

FileNotFound wrote: »

Maybe not - but the delivery was always my issue - Rave cost 18 pound for delivery of my usual order - whereas it was 4 euro via parcel motel.

Hope one of the companies gets back up and going again

Address pal is still going

Tabby McTat

Hi all. Looking for a recommendation here. My wife would like an espresso like you’d get in Italy. Have tried loads of delicious beans recently but nothing that has tickled that fancy! Is it a dark roast bean I’m looking for? Most roasters seem to have light/medium only. As I understand it, dark roasted beans are basically burning out all the flavour.

Any recommendations are welcome. TIA.

limnam

barrac wrote: »

Hi all. Looking for a recommendation here. My wife would like an espresso like you’d get in Italy. Have tried loads of delicious beans recently but nothing that has tickled that fancy! Is it a dark roast bean I’m looking for? Most roasters seem to have light/medium only. As I understand it, dark roasted beans are basically burning out all the flavour.

Any recommendations are welcome. TIA.

An espresso like you get in Italy is fairly vague.

Tabby McTat

limnam wrote: »

An espresso like you get in Italy is fairly vague.

My bad. In general I find Italian espresso very strong. Definitely a lot more intense dark flavour than any beans I have gotten here. Probably the closest would be some Lavazza supermarket beans but they just taste burnt to me.

I guess what I am looking for is an intense/full bodied espresso.

My go-to at the minute is Coffee Angel Forsa Gala and have tried Cloud Picker Sam and a few from WCC also recently.