So Michael D IS running again!

alaimacerc

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

I got a Joan Freeman flyer in the door, and her slogan is, wait for it...

Better Together.

Yes, the very name used by the No side in the Scottish Indyref.

Drat, she's got wind of Cork's plan to throw Dublin out of the Republic!

Pussyhands

I don't know who the worst candidate is, Freeman or Casey.

Zubeneschamali

Pussyhands wrote: »

I don't know who the worst candidate is, Freeman or Casey.

Casey is much worse.

Neither of them are trying to win, but Freeman is trying to raise the profile of better mental health, suicide prevention and her charity, Pieta House.

Peter Casey is just trying to raise the profile of Peter Casey.

Sam Russell

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

Casey is much worse.


Peter Casey is just trying to raise the profile of Peter Casey.

At which he is succeeding, but in a very bad way.

Try_harder

Sean Gallagher is coming across as a sanctimonious prick. He didnt care about Ireland (Inc) for 7 years now is clearing his diary to try to goad An t-Uchtaran into a debate. How about he just goes collecting cheques for FF...

Iona Joan looks more appealing than Sean right about now

Try_harder

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

Casey is much worse.

Neither of them are trying to win, but Freeman is trying to raise the profile of better mental health, suicide prevention and her charity, Pieta House.

Peter Casey is just trying to raise the profile of Peter Casey.

Which one? The one in America Iona Joan gave half her Seanad salary to?

Beechwoodspark

Pussyhands wrote: »

I don't know who the worst candidate is, Freeman or Casey.

Duffy is worse than either of them!

eastwest

http://www.realboyle.com/the-toon-team-presidential-debate/

Penn

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

I got a Joan Freeman flyer in the door, and her slogan is, wait for it...

Better Together.

Yes, the very name used by the No side in the Scottish Indyref.

I also don't see what it's meant to refer to in the context of this election. Who is better together? Who won't be together if someone other than Freeman wins? Who or what is or isn't together and how will that change or not change depending on Freeman's victory or defeat in the Election?

SimonTemplar

Whatever about the other dragons, I don't believe for a second that Duffy entered this race with the expectation of actually winning. Either he is trying to establish himself as a candidate in seven years time or he is using the race as brand awareness for his business.

eastwest

SimonTemplar wrote: »

Whatever about the other dragons, I don't believe for a second that Duffy entered this race with the expectation of actually winning. Either he is trying to establish himself as a candidate in seven years time or he is using the race as brand awareness for his business.

Or he's part of Gallagher's strategy...

Danzy

SimonTemplar wrote: »

Whatever about the other dragons, I don't believe for a second that Duffy entered this race with the expectation of actually winning. Either he is trying to establish himself as a candidate in seven years time or he is using the race as brand awareness for his business.

I think it for the fun ,maybe as sweeper for bagman.

Lot of people are raising profiles to help get directorship, State bodies, commentary slots in papers,seanad seats.Liadh as an excuse for door knocking.

No one in the campaign is pushing hard.

James Brown

eastwest wrote: »

Or he's part of Gallagher's strategy...

It's very odd that three chancers from the same kind of back ground and the same TV show run for President. Three wasters, politically speaking, spouting the kind of thing you might see on motivational posters in a cheesy sales office.

blanch152

Danzy wrote: »

I think it for the fun ,maybe as sweeper for bagman.

Lot of people are raising profiles to help get directorship, State bodies, commentary slots in papers,seanad seats.Liadh as an excuse for door knocking.

No one in the campaign is pushing hard.

I hadn't thought of that angle for Liadh. Perhaps the polling is showing that Liadh hasn't a chance of holding her Europe seat. Running her for President, even if she only gets 6% raises her profile in advance of the European elections and shores her up.

Probably the best explanation.

expectationlost

chrisk123 wrote: »

I read up on the power of the position, more than I previously thought.

I always thought it was ceremonial thing, greeting foreign dignitaries etc.

What has MDH done in his time? … I am genuinely asking, not lived in in Ireland for many year… curious.

https://president.ie/diary

alaimacerc

Matt Barrett wrote: »

It's very odd that three chancers from the same kind of back ground and the same TV show run for President. Three wasters, politically speaking, spouting the kind of thing you might see on motivational posters in a cheesy sales office.

ITYM four. Freeman is easily their match for cheese.

Today I learned, to my psychological cost, that she plans a "National Assembly of Well-being". That's in addition, mind to her "Council of States for the Counties", or whatever the exact phrase was.

What further random banging together of concepts does she have in store for us?

A Cabinet of Chestnuts?
A Dáil for Dollies?
A Psenate filled with Psychologists?
A Supreme Court of Silly Candidates?

blackwhite

Danzy wrote: »

I think it for the fun ,maybe as sweeper for bagman.

Lot of people are raising profiles to help get directorship, State bodies, commentary slots in papers,seanad seats.Liadh as an excuse for door knocking.

No one in the campaign is pushing hard.

I think this is it TBH.

"Former Presidential Candidate/Nominee" looks fairly good on a CV (especially in another country where they haven't been exposed to/aware of the campaign in Ireland).

The theory that Duffy/Casey would willingly blow a chunk of their own cash just to help Gallagher pushes credibility IMO - them choosing to invest it in their own profiles seems a lot more plausible.

Seems to me a bit of them looking at Gallagher and thinking "if that eejit can get nominated.........." and then doing the sums on the benefits that it might bring via profile building.

James Brown

blackwhite wrote: »

I think this is it TBH.

"Former Presidential Candidate/Nominee" looks fairly good on a CV (especially in another country where they haven't been exposed to/aware of the campaign in Ireland).

The theory that Duffy/Casey would willingly blow a chunk of their own cash just to help Gallagher pushes credibility IMO - them choosing to invest it in their own profiles seems a lot more plausible.

Seems to me a bit of them looking at Gallagher and thinking "if that eejit can get nominated.........." and then doing the sums on the benefits that it might bring via profile building.

I'd say it's a mix of the two. They get higher profiles, possibly a board or seanad nod and give Gallagher a dig out in the process. Gallaghers ego is writing cheques reality nor the electorate will cash.

Danzy

blanch152 wrote: »

I hadn't thought of that angle for Liadh. Perhaps the polling is showing that Liadh hasn't a chance of holding her Europe seat. Running her for President, even if she only gets 6% raises her profile in advance of the European elections and shores her up.

Probably the best explanation.

Many of the electorate will not of heard of her and will not either, give the lack of interest o the election.
Gallagher at least had his name associated by the President election last time.

I think it is about Munster for SF in this election.

alaimacerc

Danzy wrote: »

Many of the electorate will not of heard of her and will not either, give the lack of interest o the election.
Gallagher at least had his name associated by the President election last time.

I think it is about Munster for SF in this election.

Her constituents in Carlow, Kilkenny, Wexford and Wicklow would like to point out that it's South these days, not just Munster! (But it might be changing back, post-Brexit.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_(European_Parliament_constituency)#/media/File:Eire-South-European-Parliament-Constit-2014.svg

Danzy

alaimacerc wrote: »

Her constituents in Carlow, Kilkenny, Wexford and Wicklow would like to point out that it's South these days, not just Munster! (But it might be changing back, post-Brexit.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_(European_Parliament_constituency)#/media/File:Eire-South-European-Parliament-Constit-2014.svg

True, an even bigger reason then to run her.

SimonTemplar

eastwest wrote: »

Or he's part of Gallagher's strategy...

But would that work though. He'd ultimately end up taking votes away from Gallagher.



Excluding the dragons, the candidates are the incumbent, an MEP and a senator.



If Casey and Duffy were not running, Gallagher would be the only choice for a voter wishing to vote for someone outside the political system. If Duffy and Casey are part of his strategy, that vote will now be split amongst the three of them.

alaimacerc

SimonTemplar wrote: »

If Casey and Duffy were not running, Gallagher would be the only choice for a voter wishing to vote for someone outside the political system. If Duffy and Casey are part of his strategy, that vote will now be split amongst the three of them.

Only to the extent that people can't be arsed to do transfers.

RobertKK

https://twitter.com/SunTimesIreland/status/1051891763919630336

He fools a lot of people, sign of a good politician. People believe the perception rather than want transparency when it comes to Michael D.

RobertKK

RobertKK wrote: »

https://twitter.com/SunTimesIreland/status/1051891763919630336

He fools a lot of people, sign of a good politician. People believe the perception rather than want transparency when it comes to Michael D.

The tweet in question was then deleted...it was about:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/higgins-office-blocks-queries-over-aides-rent-free-aras-stay-zn73x29ww9l

alaimacerc

RobertKK wrote: »

https://twitter.com/SunTimesIreland/status/1051891763919630336

He fools a lot of people, sign of a good politician. People believe the perception rather than want transparency when it comes to Michael D.

Once more with some meaningful context, please, or at the least, a valid link?

alaimacerc

RobertKK wrote: »

The tweet in question was then deleted...it was about:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/higgins-office-blocks-queries-over-aides-rent-free-aras-stay-zn73x29ww9l

Ah, a four-year-old article about him "refusing to answer questions", that he's since spent four years answering in ludicrous levels of detail.

Some people are wanting to be fooled, all right.

RobertKK

alaimacerc wrote: »

Ah, a four-year-old article about him "refusing to answer questions", that he's since spent four years answering in ludicrous levels of detail.

Some people are wanting to be fooled, all right.

Well they are when one listens to Michael D on the news and trying to make it sound good his expenses have gone from over 315k to 280k...and still votes for him so he can live the privileged life.

Eric Cartman

RobertKK wrote: »

Well they are when one listens to Michael D on the news and trying to make it sound good his expenses have gone from over 315k to 280k...and still votes for him so he can live the privileged life.

7 more years of him shaking hands with socialist leaders as they let their own people starve to death , and with the same hands pointing and pontificating at people who do work in Ireland and telling them they're not doing enough.

Hotblack Desiato

blanch152 wrote: »

I hadn't thought of that angle for Liadh. Perhaps the polling is showing that Liadh hasn't a chance of holding her Europe seat. Running her for President, even if she only gets 6% raises her profile in advance of the European elections and shores her up.

Would be very surprised if any of the doors she knocks on aren't in her European constituency...

BTW I've come up with a collective noun for the reality-TV candidates...

"The Dragoons"