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So Michael D IS running again!

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  • #992
    PopePalpatine
    Registered Users Posts: 11,953 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    Zubeneschamali wrote: »
    I think Finucane will certainly beat the DUP candidate in this election.

    Wow, I can't believe the Irexit party is taking such a move so early in their existence. :pac:


  • #993
    jm08
    Registered Users Posts: 11,301 ✭✭✭✭jm08


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Word is we will have our first nomination today from Meath.

    Already FG councilors are said (News at One RTE) to be planning to back Gavin Duffy if FF nominate Gallagher.

    Hilarious stuff. FG in open revolt against HQ instructions.


    Gavin Duffy got it.
    Duffy 17 votes, Gallagher 7 and Joan Freeman 2.


  • #994
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,742 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    jm08 wrote: »
    Gavin Duffy got it.
    Duffy 17 votes, Gallagher 7 and Joan Freeman 2.

    Is that Duffy’s home county. That’s an impressive win for him


  • #995
    jm08
    Registered Users Posts: 11,301 ✭✭✭✭jm08


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    Is that Duffy’s home county. That’s an impressive win for him


    No, he has connections with Louth and Kildare though. He has done media training with a lot of politicians though.


  • #996
    Water John
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,612 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    The Meath Ward Hunt would be Duffy's bailiwick. Will any of these stop once they get 4 or will they try and hoover up as many as possible to block others?


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  • #997
    Mistrryman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13 ✭Mistrryman


    Councils are making clowns of themselves supporting these jokers


  • #998
    Water John
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,612 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    What is your suggestion?


  • #999
    Mistrryman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13 ✭Mistrryman


    Water John wrote: »
    What is your suggestion?

    They should refuse to back joke candidates


  • #1000
    Water John
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,612 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Who are on your lists, of real candidates and joke candidates?


  • #1001
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    IMO, the "Real" candidates, as in people who seem to understand what the presidency is and aren't just attentions whores, are MDH and Joan Freeman.

    The "Joke" candidates are everyone else.


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  • #1002
    jm08
    Registered Users Posts: 11,301 ✭✭✭✭jm08


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    Is that Duffy’s home county. That’s an impressive win for him


    Actually, listening to RTE Drivetime, seems he lives on the border of Meath and Louth.


  • #1003
    jm08
    Registered Users Posts: 11,301 ✭✭✭✭jm08


    Mistrryman wrote: »
    Councils are making clowns of themselves supporting these jokers


    People on Drivetime saying that Fine Gael councillors are supporting Gavin Duffy to block FF Gallagher getting a nomination.


  • #1004
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,423 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    jm08 wrote: »
    People on Drivetime saying that Fine Gael councillors are supporting Gavin Duffy to block FF Gallagher getting a nomination.

    FG's 'control' of the party didn't last long.


  • #1005
    blanch152
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,083 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    FG's 'control' of the party didn't last long.


    Good to see members of a political party allowed to have thoughts of their own - it doesn't happen in every political party.


  • #1006
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,423 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    blanch152 wrote: »
    Good to see members of a political party allowed to have thoughts of their own - it doesn't happen in every political party.

    FG instructed their councilors not to back a candidate.
    Fine Gael has formally agreed to back Michael D Higgins for a second term as president and closed the door on its party councillors supporting a rival for Áras an Uachtaráin.

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/fine-gael-to-back-michael-d-higgins-unconditionally-in-re-election-bid-472896.html


    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/ireland/fine-gael-orders-its-councillors-to-back-higgins-re-election-0bgwr0sk9


  • #1007
    blanch152
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,083 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    FG instructed their councilors not to back a candidate.


    So, isn't it refreshing to see councillors capable of independent thought?

    New politics and all that.


  • #1008
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,423 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    blanch152 wrote: »
    So, isn't it refreshing to see councillors capable of independent thought?

    New politics and all that.

    Oh yes, of course.
    My criticism would be of FG for not manning up and running a candidate themselves because being the PR obsessed party they have become they feared losing.
    Now they have to watch their councilors revolt all around the country.


  • #1009
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,656 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    jm08 wrote: »
    Actually, listening to RTE Drivetime, seems he lives on the border of Meath and Louth.

    Close to Bellewstown , a few miles from Julianstown


  • #1010
    jm08
    Registered Users Posts: 11,301 ✭✭✭✭jm08


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    FG's 'control' of the party didn't last long.


    Who cares?


  • #1011
    blanch152
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,083 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    blanch152 wrote: »
    So, isn't it refreshing to see councillors capable of independent thought?

    New politics and all that.
    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Oh yes, of course.


    Well stop complaining about it then.


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  • #1012
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,423 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    blanch152 wrote: »
    Well stop complaining about it then.

    I'm not complaining. I am having a good chuckle though.


  • #1013
    Mistrryman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13 ✭Mistrryman


    One thing working in SGs favour is the FF envelope business probably won't bite him twice.

    SG is saying suspiciously nice things about MDHs presidency which makes me think the dragons are in cahoots.


  • #1014
    Loafing Oaf
    Registered Users Posts: 16,673 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Mistrryman wrote: »
    One thing working in SGs favour is the FF envelope business probably won't bite him twice.

    SG is saying suspiciously nice things about MDHs presidency which makes me think the dragons are in cahoots.

    Like a nice cop/nasty cop routine? Duffy puts the boot into MDH while Gallagher remains all upbeat and statesmanlike...


  • #1015
    expectationlost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,962 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    Mistrryman wrote: »
    One thing working in SGs favour is the FF envelope business probably won't bite him twice.
    .
    RTE's screw up has made it harder to scrutinize him further on this, then again McGuinness also got some of the details wrong.


  • #1016
    yrreg0850
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 531 ✭✭✭yrreg0850


    Fair play to the FG councillors who defied the instructions and voted to nominate a candidate for the election.
    After all they are elected by the local people and, do not have to take dictation from handlers in Dublin.


  • #1017
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,423 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    yrreg0850 wrote: »
    Fair play to the FG councillors who defied the instructions and voted to nominate a candidate for the election.
    After all they are elected by the local people and, do not have to take dictation from handlers in Dublin.

    Yep, that is how it is being reported...'defied' the leadership. Another PR mess for Leo. Would there not have been a party hack who could have foresaw this happening?


  • #1018
    Water John
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,612 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Some are indeed amazed that County Councillors don't usually like any type of whip being imposed.


  • #1019
    blanch152
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,083 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Yep, that is how it is being reported...'defied' the leadership. Another PR mess for Leo. Would there not have been a party hack who could have foresaw this happening?


    How is it a PR mess?

    Councillors engage in new politics?

    You seem to be the only person concerned.


  • #1020
    Water John
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,612 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    He's afraid of contagion. SF councillors might start getting notions.


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  • #1021
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,423 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    blanch152 wrote: »
    How is it a PR mess?

    Councillors engage in new politics?

    You seem to be the only person concerned.

    It was headline news on RTE. Membership defies the leadership.

    No biggie, just embarrassing and it may develop into some councilors out on the canvas and campaigning against the chosen FG candidate. :)


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