So Michael D IS running again!

Sam Russell

Sean Gallagher company in High Court dispute over heating systems
Row concerns Blanchardstown building occupied by Nokia

A dispute between a property company of presidential candidate Sean Gallagher and Nokia Ireland over heating and cooling systems for a Dublin premises has come before the High Court. Counsel for Nokia told the court on Thursday Mr Gallagher had in an email threatened to close down the premises if the dispute went to court. Mr Gallagher has insisted he made no “threat” and was merely outlining the factual situation on the ground in that architects and builders had made it clear, if an injunction threat was holding up works, they would move on to other projects. He said that would mean fire safety issues in the building would not be remedied, it could not be safely occupied as a result and would have to be closed.

Looks like a bit of a clanger from Gallagher, not good timing to be seen issuing threats.

Thammer

Sam Russell wrote: »

Sean Gallagher company in High Court dispute over heating systems
Row concerns Blanchardstown building occupied by Nokia



Looks like a bit of a clanger from Gallagher, not good timing to be seen issuing threats.

Yea puts him in the mix with SF lol

marieholmfan

FrancieBrady wrote: »

True - he self admitted and his campaign went down the toilet. We still need to know how deep his involvement in FF was and is.

Former head of Ogra and drives around collecting 'donations' - is that a connection?

FrancieBrady

marieholmfan wrote: »

Former head of Ogra and drives around collecting 'donations' - is that a connection?

Did 'drive around' or 'still drives around'.

What did that effort (collector general for FF) contribute to his 'vision' for Ireland I wonder?

James Brown

realdanbreen wrote: »

You might like to think people are bored or have forgotten but thankfully the majority of decent people in this country have not.

What? She's affiliated with a party that were affiliated with the IRA who signed a peace agreement and stood down decades ago? Sure...you need not forget but you may as well call FG facists.
I'd say housing and health crises have more sway.
Gallagher will be amusing.

mrbrianj

marieholmfan wrote: »

Former head of Ogra and drives around collecting 'donations' - is that a connection?

That's the strange thing. At the time ( and still) FF were toxic, but a lot of people had voted for them before - it was a plausible excuse to admit being involved before, but explain being as sickened as everybody else and so on, and on, and on.

His problem was that lying about being non FF was a NO NO to the voters. When he started mentioning cheques and envelopes it had just moved into pantomime.

expectationlost

Thammer wrote: »

Higgins will want as little debate as possible and stick to photo ops

Let the dragons beat each to death with their nonsense

The communist/Castro angle will probably come into play

yeah just 3 debates

Sam Russell

mrbrianj wrote: »

That's the strange thing. At the time ( and still) FF were toxic, but a lot of people had voted for them before - it was a plausible excuse to admit being involved before, but explain being as sickened as everybody else and so on, and on, and on.

His problem was that lying about being non FF was a NO NO to the voters. When he started mentioning cheques and envelopes it had just moved into pantomime.

Be interesting to hear him explaining how threatening Noki was not really threatening them at all - it was just him explaining that the obsolete heating and ventilation system was not really his responsibility or his companies, but someone else's, and anyway, he just owns the building and he can close it down if he likes, and he did not really threaten - it was just his way of explaining he does not like going to court - unless he expects to collect a large cheque.

We will see.

Beechwoodspark

pixelburp wrote: »

The nature of the question was shady and real amateur-hour stuff from RTÉ, but the reality is Gallagher handled the question like a man either out of his depth, or with something to hide. He ballsed it up completely, having effectively coasted in the polls on being the slightly bland, non party-affiliated candidate with a bit of celebrity to add some percentage points. He outed himself, albeit via aforementioned bad journalism.

Sean Gallagher only has Sean Gallagher to blame, for being found out as a FF proxy candidate / bagman. Between that and his apparent business model of getting government grants for GAA clubs leads me to believe he'd just be the President of Strokes were he to be elected.

He completely ballsed up his answer on Sean o rourke the other morning too so he STILL hasn’t learned how to deal with questions on his FF past. He’s screwed tbh.

Thammer

The dragons are all making fools of themselves

Moderately smart guys but vanity catching them out on the public stage

Edgware

FrancieBrady wrote: »

True - he self admitted and his campaign went down the toilet. We still need to know how deep his involvement in FF was and is.

And let Michael D give us the rundown on his trips to his Commie pals

Beechwoodspark

Edgware wrote: »

And let Michael D give us the rundown on his trips to his Commie pals

Michael d proclaims his leftist credentials proudly and ppl seem to respect him for that.

Gallagher for some reason doesn’t like talking about his FF background. Ppl then seize on it and probably make a bigger thing out of it than it warrants.

FrancieBrady

Edgware wrote: »

And let Michael D give us the rundown on his trips to his Commie pals

As President, representing Ireland?
Having friends who are communists is not illegal or unconstitutional as far as I know.

expectationlost

Edgware wrote: »

And let Michael D give us the rundown on his trips to his Commie pals

which commie pals

Thammer

expectationlost wrote: »

which commie pals

Castro

FrancieBrady

Thammer wrote: »

Castro

When did he go to see him as President of Ireland.

By the way, Higgins recognised the good things Castro did but accepted that they had come at a social cost. A fair summary of Castro and indeed a good number of other leaders too.

expectationlost

Thammer wrote: »

Castro

pal then not pals

expectationlost

FrancieBrady wrote: »

When did he go to see him as President of Ireland.

By the way, Higgins recognised the good things Castro did but accepted that they had come at a social cost. A fair summary of Castro and indeed a good number of other leaders too.

The economic and social reforms introduced were at the price of a restriction of civil society, which brought its critics.

^not great this^ https://www.president.ie/en/media-library/news-releases/statement-by-president-michael-d.-higgins-on-the-death-of-fidel-castro

Hotblack Desiato

Chavez is the other one.

I detest Chavez and Castro and what they stood for but I'll still be voting for Higgins and I don't think any of the rest are worth a number 2.

expectationlost

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

Chavez is the other one.

.

the other what?

FrancieBrady

expectationlost wrote: »

^not great this^ https://www.president.ie/en/media-library/news-releases/statement-by-president-michael-d.-higgins-on-the-death-of-fidel-castro

Not understanding your point.

expectationlost

Thammer wrote: »

Castro

you mean Raúl

Hotblack Desiato

"Fidel Castro will be remembered as a giant among global leaders whose view was not only one of freedom for his people but for all of the oppressed and excluded peoples on the planet.”

A strange kind of freedom where political speech would lead to you being expelled if you were lucky. Lengthy imprisonment or death if you were not.

expectationlost

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Not understanding your point.

"which brought its critics" is quite indirect. His behavior had critics but is Higgins one of them?

FrancieBrady

expectationlost wrote: »

"which brought its critics" is a quite indirect. His behavior had critics but is Higgins one of them?

Like any other world leader he did good things and he did bad and people suffered. Sometimes for what the leader thought was for the greater good. Look at our own country since the crash.

Sam Russell

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Like any other world leader he did good things and he did bad and people suffered. Sometimes for what the leader thought was for the greater good. Look at our own country since the crash.

Look at our own country since the crash. founding of the State.

Would anyone praise the Industrial Schools, the Magdalene Laundries, the Mother and Baby homes which sold babies having trafficked them to the USA without the consent or knowledge of the natural mothers. Also, the extraordinary deference given to the Catholic Church whose outrageous behaviour towards the sexual assaults carried out by Catholic priests and religious brothers on defenceless children and where they allowed such vile behaviour to continue by moving the criminals to another source of prey. I could go on.

Much of this behaviour was not only condoned by official Ireland but aided and funded by it. Craw thumping was an art form.

blanch152

FrancieBrady wrote: »

When did he go to see him as President of Ireland.

By the way, Higgins recognised the good things Castro did but accepted that they had come at a social cost. A fair summary of Castro and indeed a good number of other leaders too.

Castro impoverished his people for his ideology. More similar to the former leader of West Belfast than anyone we should look up to.

Interesting that you defend totalitarian regimes because they do some good.

blanch152

Sam Russell wrote: »

Look at our own country since the crash. founding of the State.

Would anyone praise the Industrial Schools, the Magdalene Laundries, the Mother and Baby homes which sold babies having trafficked them to the USA without the consent or knowledge of the natural mothers. Also, the extraordinary deference given to the Catholic Church whose outrageous behaviour towards the sexual assaults carried out by Catholic priests and religious brothers on defenceless children and where they allowed such vile behaviour to continue by moving the criminals to another source of prey. I could go on.

Much of this behaviour was not only condoned by official Ireland but aided and funded by it. Craw thumping was an art form.

The thing is, we don't look back and condone it.

Higgins looked back and praised the much worse exploitation of his people by Castro. De Valera did a lot of damage to this country, but he was no Castro in his imprisonment and execution of political opponents.

FrancieBrady

blanch152 wrote: »

Castro impoverished his people for his ideology. More similar to the former leader of West Belfast than anyone we should look up to.

Interesting that you defend totalitarian regimes because they do some good.

I didn't defend any totalitarian regimes as it happens. I defended Higgins right to see the good in somebody while recognising the bad.

I tend to do the same thing with leaders. I can't think of one that has done all good or all bad atm. I can assure you people suffer the world over from decisions leaders make though.

FrancieBrady

blanch152 wrote: »

The thing is, we don't look back and condone it.

Higgins looked back and praised the much worse exploitation of his people by Castro. De Valera did a lot of damage to this country, but he was no Castro in his imprisonment and execution of political opponents.

There are plenty of our leadership who are willing to ignore what the church did in order to have photo ops with the leaders of the church when they visit. Higgins recognised the good Castro did which is no different to the what Varadkar did when he stood shoulder to shoulder with the leader of the RC Church.

Complete hypocrisy there tbh blanch.