Hierarchy of jerseys in grand tour?

dulpit

Hey,

Just wondering if there is a defined hierarchy of jerseys in a grand tour? Specifically if a rider is entitled to more than one? What about the likes of the national or rainbow jersey too?

Boscoirl

Race Jerseys would take precedence over national and world champion jerseys

Then in the tour they would be ranked yellow, green, mountains then young rider

Eamonnator

After Stage one, the yellow jersey leader was also the green jersey leader.
Sagan was 2nd on stage one, and in the normal course of events, he would have worn the green jersey on Stage two. But he didn't, he wore his rainbow jersey.

Half heard them on about this the other day, thought they said they could opt to wear the nationals or worlds over the competition jersey if they wished but usually don't to keep the sponsors happy

CrowdedHouse

The official rules, although a bit might be lost in translation

The leaders of the general time ranking, the
general points ranking, the best climber ranking
and the general young riders ranking must wear:
• in the first case, the Yellow jersey;
• in the second case, the green jersey;
• In the third case, the white and red polka dot jersey;
• in the fourth case, the white jersey

When a rider is leader of several general rankings,
he only wears one jersey: the one designated
by the order of priority. The other jerseys are
then worn by the runners-up, the 2nd, 3rd or 4th
in the corresponding general ranking. However,
if this rider is required to wear his world
or national champion jersey, then this is the jersey
he must wear.

dulpit

CrowdedHouse wrote: »

The official rules, although a bit might be lost in translation

That explains it. I was wondering why Sagan was in rainbow the other day, but it was because he was 2nd in green. So I guess nobody wore green that day?

greedygoblin

dulpit wrote: »

That explains it. I was wondering why Sagan was in rainbow the other day, but it was because he was 2nd in green. So I guess nobody wore green that day?

Kittel wore green. From letour website:

Fernando Gaviria (Quick Step) also leads the points classification, with 63 points. Peter Sagan (Bora-Hansgrohe) is second with 37 points but being the world champion and not leading this secondary ranking, he could choose to keep his rainbow jersey and did so. Therefore, Marcel Kittel (Katusha-Alpecin), third with 24 points, wears the green jersey. Alexander Kristoff (UAE Team Emirates) also has 24 points as he scored more than Kittel in the intermediate sprint but Kittel’s third place on the finish line prevails to put him ahead in the ranking.

LCD

One jersey to rule them all

https://cycling-jersey-collection.com/browse-collection/tour-de-france-multicoloured-combination-jersey

TheBlaaMan

greedygoblin wrote: »

Kittel wore green. From letour website:

Kittel didnt just wear a green jersey, he went full on with the green speed suit.....which kinda looked a bit rediculous given he was only third in the classification. I guess that with the increasing use of one-piece kit on the flatter 'sprint' stages, this is going to arise.....

Melodeon

I reckon the holder of multiple jerseys should have to wear them all!
It's be an interesting 'handicapping' method

dulpit

Does make you wonder - do all of the teams have jerseys of all colours prepared for all of their riders? Or do they look at some and say - you haven't a chance at yellow - and save costs?

CrowdedHouse

No I believe the organisers give out the official jersey

All these jerseys must be worn in the state in
which they are provided by the organisation. They
may be fitted with rectangular advertising banners
bearing the names of the teams within the limits
established by UCI regulations.

Melodeon

We're sometimes told by the commentators that the jersey holders have problems with the race-issue skinsuit in time trials, as they're not the custom fitted super top-secret ninja material suits the teams provide.
I'd be amazed though if the top teams with legitimate contenders for various jerseys didn't have their own kit in the required livery.

buffalo

dulpit wrote: »

Does make you wonder - do all of the teams have jerseys of all colours prepared for all of their riders? Or do they look at some and say - you haven't a chance at yellow - and save costs?

I can't find the article, but there's a guy whose job it is to iron on the appropriate logo onto the jerseys once the wearer is known. He has yellow/green/polka dot/white jerseys in all shapes and sizes, and transfers of logos ready to go.

See also: http://inrng.com/2012/12/how-are-jerseys-made/

We might think one for every stage but that’s not true. When the rider stands on the podium they get a special podium version with a full zip at the back. They insert their arms and then five-time Tour de France champion Bernard Hinault uses his dainty fingers to zip up the jersey at the back in one quick move.

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All are made in advance and a man in a van does the hard work to print the team sponsor logos on the jersey. Earlier in the year these graphics are agreed by teams and ASO so that everything is in place for the race, all that remains to be done is press the design on to a virgin jersey.

Melodeon

buffalo wrote: »

I can't find the article, but there's a guy whose job it is to iron on the appropriate logo onto the jerseys once the wearer is known. He has yellow/green/polka dot/white jerseys in all shapes and sizes, and transfers of logos ready to go.

See also: http://inrng.com/2012/12/how-are-jerseys-made/

Is that not just for the podium presentations though?
Kinda like at major tournaments in various sports where we sometimes see the engraver working on the trophy in the time between the event decider and the official prizegiving?
Many podium jerseys these days appear to be a special 'backwards' jacket with a zipper up the back. The jersey holders certainly don't wear these on the road.

buffalo

Melodeon wrote: »

Is that not just for the podium presentations though?
Kinda like at major tournaments in various sports where we sometimes see the engraver working on the trophy in the time between the event decider and the official prizegiving?
Many podium jerseys these days appear to be a special 'backwards' jacket with a zipper up the back. The jersey holders certainly don't wear these on the road.

Read the link.

In addition to this the rider gets several jerseys for themselves, a lightweight mesh version, a thicker one and a long sleeve version too, these are meant for racing and come in the standard sizes, S-M-L etc. This can pose a problem for some riders are some teams have custom kit that is made to fit the rider and ensure it doesn’t flap in the wind or covers anatomical oddities, for example Hincapie clothing supply BMC Racing’s Alessandro Ballan with bespoke kit to suit his elongated arms.