The role model superthread!

marklazarcovic

Eminem

DEFTLEFTHAND

paleoperson wrote: »

Cristiano Ronaldo. I don't care about football, but he makes a lot of money and pulls a lot of viewers therefore that is enough to hold him up as a role model. All that money, what a role model, if only we could all be like him.







(I don't think this, this is a parody of a post I saw someone say on the other thread about judge judy).

Seems to be a respectable sort of chap off the field.

Omackeral

For me it would have to be that one guy who is also a cat.

Phoebas

Phoebas wrote:

It read like something out of The Handmaid's Tale.

I haven't watched any of it but I got a synopsis:

"Based on the best-selling novel by Margaret Atwood, this series is set in Gilead, a totalitarian society in what used to be part of the United States. Gilead is ruled by a fundamentalist regime that treats women as property of the state, and is faced with environmental disasters and a plummeting birth rate. In a desperate attempt to repopulate a devastated world, the few remaining fertile women are forced into sexual servitude. One of these women, Offred, is determined to survive the terrifying world she lives in, and find the daughter that was taken from her."

I don't see the comparison tbh

ohnonotgmail

Deleted User wrote: »

I haven't watched any of it but I got a synopsis:

"Based on the best-selling novel by Margaret Atwood, this series is set in Gilead, a totalitarian society in what used to be part of the United States. Gilead is ruled by a fundamentalist regime that treats women as property of the state, and is faced with environmental disasters and a plummeting birth rate. In a desperate attempt to repopulate a devastated world, the few remaining fertile women are forced into sexual servitude. One of these women, Offred, is determined to survive the terrifying world she lives in, and find the daughter that was taken from her."

I don't see the comparison tbh

of course you dont.

recyclebin

Barbie and Ken are my answer to all these threads!

The Backwards Man

Skippy

Liam McPoyle

Jedward.

ArchXStanton

I wanna be in the wolf pack..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q77sJT8O56E

ohnonotgmail

ohnonotgmail wrote:

of course you dont.

Great contribution.

If someone would like to answer in a non patronising way and perhaps tell me why they thought that it was an outrageous tweet or perhaps further explain the comparison to the hand maids tale, id appreciate it.

It's very possible I'm missing something.

Kivaro

Without a doubt, Cindy Crawford would be a role model for models. She's been around for years and built up a diverse career ranging from acting to business.

Mr. CooL ICE

Mod: I merged a whole of role model threads so you can all talk over yourselves about who you think is great.

There's 4 different threads here now so you mightn't know what's going on. I certainly don't.

Lorelli!

George Galloway. Also a cat :pac:

Riddle101

Kevin Smith. He's probably not the first person who comes to mind when people think of role models, but I'll put in a good word for him because i've been a fan of his for years and i've kept up with his career throughout. I also listen to his podcast Fatman on Batman all the time and he comes across a genuinely nice guy who has a very optimistic view on life. He's loyal to his fanbase as well and often times will give them advice if they are having their own personal problems or need life advice. Last year during the controversy surrounding Harvey Weinstein, Smith donated the residuals from his Weinstein-backed films to charity. On top of that he stays true to himself, he hasn't sold out or changed anything about himself in order to appease others. He is who he is and is comfortable with that.

I think for some he would be a role model those who are probably insecure about themselves or deal with depression, people who would be classed as nerds, geeks or outsiders.

hatrickpatrick

Dole Scrounging Vegan Crossfitter wrote: »

Mod: I merged a whole of role model threads so you can all talk over yourselves about who you think is great.

There's 4 different threads here now so you mightn't know what's going on. I certainly don't.

endacl

Sweetemotion wrote: »

Katie Hopkins. A strong independent woman who isn't afraid to speak her mind and doesn't care what people think of her.

If only she had a mind to speak.

Phoebas

^^ Katy Hopkins cares deeply what people think of her. As a professional troll, it's her bread and butter.

branie2

Joan of Arc

HardQs

Judge judy
and the ban gardai i saw dealing with a degenerate outside the pub last year. Patience of a saint and still had some humour about them

Sal Butamol

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

Had a career as a physicist and then went on to become the most powerful person in Germany. I'd have huge admiration for her and think she'll go down very well in history.

Lol she'll go down in history alright, for all the wrong reasons. Her tenure has been a disaster for Europe and the effects will last for decades.

Feisar

Kivaro wrote: »

Without a doubt, Cindy Crawford would be a role model for models. She's been around for years and built up a diverse career ranging from acting to business.

Damn...

hatrickpatrick

The Merkel issue reminds me a bit of someone suggesting that Noirín O'Sullivan and Frances FitzGerald should be a role model for girls. I guess the question is, is a role model merely one who manages to attain a level of power, seniority or success - entirely detached from whether or not they were a good person and their actions as high profile people were good or bad for society? If the bar is simply "getting into high places" then all three of these women would be epic role models, as would Maggie Thatcher. If the bar includes actually being a good person and making decisions which don't hurt people... Not so much.

There seems to be a bit of a double standard there tbh. No one goes around suggesting that someone like George Bush or Bertie Ahern is a good role model for boys, but if the likes of O'Sullivan and Merkel are good role models for girls, then the conclusion must be that being a role model is all about achievement and not necessarily about being good or ethical at one's job. So in that context, Bush and Bertie should both be male role models - Bush because he had a lasting impact on history just as Merkel did (the fact that both of their impacts on history are horrendously negative being beside the point) and Bertie because he enjoyed such a long and somewhat unchallenged tenure at the top of Irish politics, again the fact that he was a total bollocks when it came to ethics being apparently irrelevant.

Does anyone else feel this way? Role models for men have to be well behaved, but according to some, role models for women just have to be successful. If that means being a douchebag and hurting people in the process, it apparently doesn't matter.

DickSwiveller Returns

Wagner

Allinall

DickSwiveller Returns wrote: »

Wagner

Good pick.

He did really well with Arsenal, but I do think he over stayed his welcome.

DickSwiveller Returns

Ciara Kelly. She's my inspiration in life.

the purple tin

Bernadette Devlin. She had some serious cajonés.

ednwireland

Heres a serious one octavia hill (found out about her after one of our customers had a contract called octavia and i thought thats odd)

Heres wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octavia_Hill

she died in 1912 but few things she did

saved hampstead heath from development

founder of the national trust

Started The first housing association.

Was on the poor laws commision

tritium

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Does anyone else feel this way? Role models for men have to be well behaved, but according to some, role models for women just have to be successful. If that means being a douchebag and hurting people in the process, it apparently doesn't matter.

It’s a really good point tbh! We seem to expect very different things from male and female role models. I suspect it’s always been so, however what we expect has changed over time.

Unfortunately there seems to be this idea at some level that successful women are “sticking it to the boys” and therefore should be celebrated as something to look up to for other women. It’s rarely entertained that there’s a problem if they may have done it by demonstrating many of the behaviours that would be looked upon as toxic if a successful man did it. Hilary Clinton is another good example-idolized in some quarters in spite of some utterly repulsive behaviour that is discretely pushed to one side.

That said I’m personally always a bit sceptical of the idea of a role model, as though someone in the round should be what another person looks up to or aspires to. We’re all human, with many flaws that are often hidden in any public persona- Martin Luther king was a womanizer, Emmeline Pankhurst shamed young men into dying in the trenches, Aung San suu kyi turns out to be a bit of a **** and Winston Churchill was too. Maybe it’s better to admire what they achieved, or look up to them in a narrower sense of the word. There aren’t too many true saints in history, maybe Gandhi and Jesus so it’s probably better not to put anyone else on a pedestal.

That said, it’s fine to admire maradonna as a footballer (not so much other things) or Angela Merkel as a tough and successful leader. It’s just important to understand what you’re admiring in them, and equally be aware of their feet of clay

branie2

Molly Brown, a heroine of the Titanic

Baron Kurtz

lardzeppelin wrote: »

I'm not a sports fan by any means, but Gary Linnaker was a great ambassador for his sport, his country and seems to have remained clear of any kind of controversy...

He also took a dump in a field.

He managed to develop and cultivate a smarmy fizzog thereafter. Some may argue that since his landmark evacuation, this remained to be his expression of choice since that incident.

It's difficult to know if there's a logical connection to this expression and his relieving himself of the steaming pile.

Only Gary knows this. As does Alan Shearer.

HappySerious

100% Cliff Young
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cliff_Young_(athlete)

kylith

Countess Markovitz

PlaneSpeeking

kylith wrote: »

Countess Markovitz

Just beat me to it - how much truth there is I don't know but I love to believe the story my nan told me.

The other side refused to shoot her as she was a woman. She was alleged to have grabbed him by the lapels and said "I'm not a woman, I'm a soldier!".

Like I say, possibly not true but I like it and she remains one of my heroes.

HardQs

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

The Merkel issue reminds me a bit of someone suggesting that Noirín O'Sullivan and Frances FitzGerald should be a role model for girls. I guess the question is, is a role model merely one who manages to attain a level of power, seniority or success - entirely detached from whether or not they were a good person and their actions as high profile people were good or bad for society? If the bar is simply "getting into high places" then all three of these women would be epic role models, as would Maggie Thatcher. If the bar includes actually being a good person and making decisions which don't hurt people... Not so much.

There seems to be a bit of a double standard there tbh. No one goes around suggesting that someone like George Bush or Bertie Ahern is a good role model for boys, but if the likes of O'Sullivan and Merkel are good role models for girls, then the conclusion must be that being a role model is all about achievement and not necessarily about being good or ethical at one's job. So in that context, Bush and Bertie should both be male role models - Bush because he had a lasting impact on history just as Merkel did (the fact that both of their impacts on history are horrendously negative being beside the point) and Bertie because he enjoyed such a long and somewhat unchallenged tenure at the top of Irish politics, again the fact that he was a total bollocks when it came to ethics being apparently irrelevant.

Does anyone else feel this way? Role models for men have to be well behaved, but according to some, role models for women just have to be successful. If that means being a douchebag and hurting people in the process, it apparently doesn't matter.

I think that if somone were to agree with merkels policies they would be likely to see her as a positive role model for girls, No make up, or hiding behind being a woman. capable of taking on the world intelectually.
A role model (imo) should display what can be achieved. Wether thats being a mom and displaying unending love and patience, or a prominent female public figure making waves without showing T&A to get clicks.

PlaneSpeeking

HardQs wrote: »

I think that if somone were to agree with merkels policies they would be likely to see her as a positive role model for girls, No make up, or hiding behind being a woman. capable of taking on the world intelectually.
A role model (imo) should display what can be achieved. Wether thats being a mom and displaying unending love and patience, or a prominent female public figure making waves without showing T&A to get clicks.

Good point. I loathe Thatcher with every fibre of my being but there is something about how she got to the top that is "role model-esque".

Galwayguy35

Michael Collins

Bitches Be Trypsin

Marie Curie.

razorblunt

Kris Jenner, that woman would walk over the dead bodies of her kids and grandkids if it meant getting a few more $$$ into the bank account.

What a gal!

branie2

Michael Collins, my hero, and favourite Irish freedom fighter

PlaneSpeeking

razorblunt wrote: »

Kris Jenner, that woman would walk over the dead bodies of her kids and grandkids if it meant getting a few more $$$ into the bank account.

What a gal!

Not before arranging the film crew, hair and make up. And photoshop!

jobless

branie2 wrote: »

Michael Collins, my hero, and favourite Irish freedom fighter

thats Steve collins you're thinking of

PlaneSpeeking

jobless wrote: »

thats Steve collins you're thinking of

Wash your mouth out!

Steve Collins is just Conor McGregor with an O Level.