xiaomi mi max 3

Thargor

I got an email from TradingSchengen this afternoon saying they had the 6GB/128GB black model in stock, signed up weeks ago to their stock alerts and it appeared today so hopefully its actually in stock and they're not lying scum like every other vendor seems to be:

https://tradingshenzhen.com/en/mi-max-3/1302-mi-max3-6gb-ram-128gb-rom-snapdragon-636.html#/62-device_color-black/130-free_gift-usb_otg_cable_eu_adapter/38-firmware-xiaomieu_multilanguage

So I ordered one from there aswell, whoever ships first Ill cancel the other order, hopefully this doesn't blow up in my face

Thargor

Snake Plisken wrote: »

Released in Hong Kong on 23rd of August and in Thailand on the 24th these will have the official global rom.

Where did you hear that?

Snake Plisken

Thargor wrote: »

Where did you hear that?

Saw it on Reddit here is a tweet with some more info. I think anything released outside of China will have a global rom
https://twitter.com/djmimifr/status/1029645181614809088?s=19

Snake Plisken

Thargor wrote: »

Where did you hear that?

Saw it on Reddit here is a tweet with some more info. I think anything released outside of China will have a global rom
https://twitter.com/djmimifr/status/1029645181614809088?s=19

squawker

my Mi Max 3 is at 3d 10h 25m on battery with normal daily usage, 17% remaining as I type

can't fault that, bootloader will be unlocked tomorrow

Thargor

squawker wrote: »

my Mi Max 3 is at 3d 10h 25m on battery with normal daily usage, 17% remaining as I type

can't fault that, bootloader will be unlocked tomorrow

Oh yeah I forgot you already had one, how are you finding it?

I cancelled my Aliexpress order with Mi Global Store, no answers to any of my queries for 2 weeks, funny how they were straight on to me asking to wait another 2 weeks the minute I cancelled.

I got a text alert from TradingShenzhen saying they had the 6GB/128GB model back in stock so ordered from them on Thursday, €330 delivered with DHL 3-5 days, they have an EU warehouse in Germany but not sure if its coming from there. They reply within 3 minutes if you contact them and you can chat to them on Whatsapp, they've assured me it is in stock and ready to ship on Monday or Tuesday and they gave me the option of original Chinese ROM or the EU ROM, they know about the fake Global ROM and say they wont touch it. So fingers crossed Ill have mine next week.

Another camera review:

To my eye the HDR rear camera shots are amazing, I am coming from a 4 year old OnePlus One though. Apparently the Google Camera .apk fixes the image stabilization and low light issues aswell.

dougm1970

squawker wrote: »

my Mi Max 3 is at 3d 10h 25m on battery with normal daily usage, 17% remaining as I type

can't fault that, bootloader will be unlocked tomorrow

hows the camera ?.....day and nightime ?

also...is there a way without rooting of getting gcam on this ?

squawker

Thargor wrote: »

Oh yeah I forgot you already had one, how are you finding it?

perfect for my needs, can't fault it. only a few niggles with the Phone software but that will be fixed

Thursday the global rom is rumored to land

dougm1970 wrote: »

hows the camera ?.....day and nightime ?

also...is there a way without rooting of getting gcam on this ?

not really interested in the Camera, took a few pics and they look okay to me

don't think I have even switched on the front camera on any phone I have ever owned

corkie

WARNING! [XDA] Anti-Rollback is now ACTIVATED on Mi Max 3

IMPORTANT NEWS:

Mi Max 3 just got the Anti-Rollback system added to any firmware above 8.8.7 China Beta | 9.6.12.0 China stable. (AND THESE AS WELL!)

Bricking situations:
China Beta ROM-
1. If you have updated to MIUI 10 Beta ROM 8.8.7 or above, you can flash all ROMs after 8.8.7 (including 8.8.7), but you can not downgrade to Beta ROM 8.8.6 or ROM previously.
2. If you are on Beta ROM 8.8.6 or ROM previously, you can flash your device using all those previous ROMs.

China Stable ROM-
1. If you are on Stable ROM V9.6.12.0 (It will be released soon) or ROM above, you can flash all Stable ROMs after V9.6.12.0 (including V9.6.12.0), but you can not flash your device to Stable ROM V9.6.9.0 or ROM previously.
2. If you are on Stable ROM V9.6.9.0 or ROM previously, you can flash your device using all those ROMs.

Source in Chinese

Edit Note: - If you have a Chinese versions with ARB, be-careful flashing Global Roms with out it.

RocketRaccoon

This is on eglobalcentral delivered for €244ish. What should i be looking out for? I have the mi max 2 at the moment.

Thargor

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

This is on eglobalcentral delivered for €244ish. What should i be looking out for? I have the mi max 2 at the moment.

Wait another week and spend a bit extra on the 6GB RAM/128 GB ROM version, or just order one now, they're coming into stock in a lot of places but then selling out nearly straight away, set stock alerts in a few places.

squawker

dougm1970 wrote: »

also...is there a way without rooting of getting gcam on this ?

Don't think so

But I rooted the phone today with Magisk, installed °camera 2 api" as a module and then the gcam.apk

All working perfectly

Thargor

2 hours of Youtube drops the battery 10%

These battery tests are ridiculous, they go on for 12-14 hours where they're actually trying to kill the battery, normal usage is measured in 3+ days:

Thargor

Another week long delay, this is excruciating :rolleyes:

Thargor

Mine has shipped from Tradingshenzhen!


Won't ruin the thread with delivery updates but the 128gb model with 6gb RAM seems to be in stock everywhere now for real this time, no sign of the blue model yet, Aug 28th according to XDA.

Skippy along

Thargor wrote: »

Mine has shipped from Tradingshenzhen!


Won't ruin the thread with delivery updates but the 128gb model with 6gb RAM seems to be in stock everywhere now for real this time, no sign of the blue model yet, Aug 28th according to XDA.

Are you leaving the Chinese rom version on it? Or is it a official global rom ... Let us know how you get on with it

Thargor

Skippy along wrote: »

Are you leaving the Chinese rom version on it? Or is it a official global rom ... Let us know how you get on with it

It was a very messy launch even by Chinese phone standards, all the vendors got impatient to sell a global ROM (that didnt exist yet) so they started flashing a fake Global ROM on it and claiming it was official. Also unlocking the bootloader then relocking it so you have to wait 10 days for Xiaomi to unlock it for you to get rid of the bad ROM. That fake Global ROM is apparently a bit of a disaster:

https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-max-3/how-to/news-mi-max-3-global-rom-t3825700

Poor reception, poor call quality, no OTA updates, loads of other stuff, the worst being bad partitions that were an actual bricking danger. If you do have the fake global ROM the solution is to unlock the bootloader, flash the Chinese ROM (fixes partitions) then flash the EU ROM. The EU ROM is unofficial but is the beginning of ROM development for this phone so its already optimized so its better than the offical Chinese one. List of optimizations here:

https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-max-3/development/rom-xiaomi-eu-miui-10-mi-max-3-t3825680

If you're not comfortable with flashing ROMs your choices are to wait for the official global ROM (maybe Aug 28th) otherwise TradingShenzhen sell them with either official Chinese or EU rom loaded and bootloader unlocked, you can select either option from the dropdown before you buy:

https://tradingshenzhen.com/en/mi-max-3/1302-mi-max3-6gb-ram-128gb-rom-snapdragon-636.html?search_query=mi+max+3&results=33

If you are buying though it will be well worth getting to know how to flash a ROM, with proper optimization and bloat removal this phone will be offering 4-5 days battery life when the good custom ROMs start arriving. Ill stick with the EU ROM for now, good reviews on XDA.

EDIT: Btw the official Chinese ROM is in full English if you order that.

squawker

Skippy along wrote: »

Are you leaving the Chinese rom version on it? Or is it a official global rom ... Let us know how you get on with it

I flashed the xiaomi.eu Rom on the Max 3 last Sunday (was on official Chinese ROM)

So far I can't fault it, installed Redwolf recovery and rooted with Magisk

Battery is just immense

dougm1970

how is camera ?....specifically in low light ?

Skippy along

Thanks Thargor for detailed reply.. trading chenzhen now only ship the 6gb with the China rom, squawker I'm fairly handy installing roms mostly on samsung S6, S7, S8 so I'm gonna go for it... Where's the best place to buy the 6gb version?

AH92

Hey guys,
Really interested in this phone especially the 6gb variant, If I want to avoid the flashing route do I pick the Xiaomi eu version on the drop down list?

greenore

Mi Max 1 user here, also well used to flashing roms and unlocking bootloaders etc..

Think im just gonna wait for Official global rom before i pull the trigger

Hurry up Xaomi!!!!! Cant wait any longer

squawker

I can't understand the reluctance to root on this thread

surely if you buy a phone from any Chinese manufacturer this is a necessity for performance and control over you device

the Phones are cheap as chips so why not have some fun with them?

Thargor

Totally agree, not nice to use generalizations but you just cant trust Chinese companies, I have all my bank accounts, share portfolios and cryptocurrency wallets on my phone + all my passwords and everything else, its a weight off your shoulders to wipe it and replace all the bloat with an optomised ROM thats not spying on you or wasting battery. I said it before aswell, when properly optomised ROMs start appearing for this device you'll be looking at 4-5 days of use on a charge.

RocketRaccoon

squawker wrote: »

I can't understand the reluctance to root on this thread

surely if you buy a phone from any Chinese manufacturer this is a necessity for performance and control over you device

the Phones are cheap as chips so why not have some fun with them?

I have the mi max 2 and have no clue about rooting and flashing etc. What benefits and all that jazz, it's working perfectly fine since I got it at the start of the year.

Dunne_bkill

squawker wrote:

I can't understand the reluctance to root on this thread

squawker wrote:

surely if you buy a phone from any Chinese manufacturer this is a necessity for performance and control over you device

squawker wrote:

the Phones are cheap as chips so why not have some fun with them?

I'd be reluctant because I have not a clue how to do it and what the real advantages are. I'd be afraid I'd brick it. I'd be fairly handy with computers etc but haven't the first idea about rooting.

I use the RN5 and I'm happy with it as it is. Slightly paranoid ow about bank details and passwords etc being on the phone now...

squawker

rooting a phone is simple and not some sort of back magic

the most important thing to me is adfree, once you get used to a browsing experience on phone without ads its impossible to go back

as well as some Magisk root apps like "Vanced" YouTube app (no ads and can change res to any definition irregardless of device)

you will not brick your device if you follow instructions, if you have any questions regarding rooting, just ask if you need help

I am personally rooting devices since my first Android phone the original "Galaxy S" and have never bricked anything

I am sure there plenty of fellow posters on this subforum that will be glad to help as well

Skippy along

Interesting post on this subject scroll down to poster" showme "
https://m.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_max_3-reviews-8963.php

Thargor

Skippy along wrote: »

Interesting post on this subject scroll down to poster" showme "
https://m.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_max_3-reviews-8963.php

Poor reception is a symptom of the fake unofficial Global ROM that several dodgy vendors loaded the phone with.

Take a look at the review videos posted earlier in this thread using the official ROM, rock solid 4G and FrankieTech said its the best call quality of any phone hes reviewed.

Slutmonkey57b

Not impressed with the battery life in GSMarena's review. Same as the Galaxy A7 which has NFC and waterproofing for the same price. Screen is an inch or so smaller but the battery is only 3600mah. Either something's up with the official ROM or it's just not an efficient phone. My guess is they've cut corners on panel quality to get it in at that price.

Thargor

Thats the unoptimized Chinese bloatware ROM and they still say its in the top 10 of phones they've ever tested, have a look at these:

Good review though:

https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_max_3-review-1809.php

Slutmonkey57b

Frankietech is only testing fullscreen video playback over WiFi in all those scenarios, and a battery drain app. It doesn't cover differences in web browsing (never mind browsing wifi vs LTE vs 3g), instagram / facebook usage, calling, or overall standby/modem performance. Cutting things off with a battery drain app because he wanted to go to bed doesn't show a rigorous method, he knew the tests were going to be 10 hours plus, starting them at 2pm was not clever.

Thargor

Well that's one part of one video. Where are you seeing the same battery life on an A7 with a 3600 mAh battery? It'll be all about the custom roms anyway, even the xaoimi.eu ROM is a big boost and that's literally the first one released.

Slutmonkey57b

Gsmarena's battery table.

Sunlight contrast ratio shows the A7 has a much better panel, which to be fair is expected for AMOLED vs. IPS. I'm mildly bummed, I had been holding out for this phone for a while.

Honor Note 10: NFC, huge battery, good (huge) panel, good camera. No Band 20, costs an extra €200.
Mi Max 3: Good storage, great price, huge panel, good camera. No NFC, underwhelming battery life, no gorilla glass, bad sunlight visibility.
A7: Great battery life (relative to size), great panel, NFC. Glass back, small panel, small storage, mediocre camera.

Thinking about what's frustrating me about the S5 I've got, taking a step backwards in sunlight visibility is a no-go, it's already not good enough.

Thargor

I dont know how you can say its underwhelming tbh, even with the original Chinese ROM and the older version of MIUI that they're testing its the 7th best battery GSMarena has ever seen (and why is it behind the A7 on that table anyway when it easily beats it on talk time and web browsing performance?), why does the A7 place higher on the table when the only metric it beats the Mi Max 3 on is 2 hours of extra video playback, 16 hours vs 18 hours? Its a way smaller screen anyway and tbh its kind of a butt ugly phone with a chin and forehead that look like they're from 3 years ago. All the Youtube reviews using the MM3 daily driver are giving it 3.5 days+ in normal usage, the .eu rom will beat that, who knows what an Exodus or some other battery focused ROM will achieve.

Yeah the sunlight ratio is a bit low but if you look at some of the phones that it does beat on their chart I really doubt its going to be an issue, in Techtablets review he's wandering around Barcelona in the heatwave and he says it performs well, all the other display metrics sound great, some are described as flagship beating, on a 6.9" display?

Plenty of better specs out there obviously on smaller screens, if you're looking for a phablet right now the only real competition is the Honor Note 10, which tbh does seem like an amazing phone. What are you going to go for?

Slutmonkey57b

GSM's table takes things like standby into account even though it's not one of the published metrics, which none of the youtubers are doing. The A7 is ahead of it because (as they hint in their Max 3 review) idle battery draw is lower and modem performance is better. One of the things I've learned to take into account is that *all* irish operators have **** coverage compared to the continent or the US, so you are more likely to be dumped in and out of 4g/3g coverage, and therefore modem performance is a big factor. An inefficient modem constantly searching for signal is going to drain battery.

I don't want the A7, but there are a number of problems with the market right now:
1. Flagships are stupid prices. The S5 was the best phone you could buy and it was €250 sim-free. I got mine for €50 on contract. The s8/s9 are nice but they're not "4 times the price" nice by any stretch, and to get through the day you'd have to switch off all the supposed upgrades like QHD+ resolution, always-on display etc.
2. Battery life hasn't been a focus of any makers for a while, and it's only these "niche" phones like the Max3 or Note 10 which actually give it to you. I am not going to spend my day hunting for a charger, and considering the improvements in process tech it's embarrassing.
3. Europe-focused manufacturers give you NFC but no storage at high prices, whereas Chinese makers give you low prices, decent specs, but skip NFC and band 20.

So the A7 looks like my best bet. Samsung's 2018 refreshes have worse battery life because they've brought unnecessary frills (QHD screens) down and killed it as a result. It would be interesting to see what Samsung could do with a genuine mid-range phablet with a 4/5,000 mah battery. Looks like they're not interested though.

squawker

Slutmonkey57b wrote: »

Not impressed with the battery life in GSMarena's review

3days 14hrs 37seconds on one charge and plugged in the phone at 14%

this is with normal usage over three normal working days

I am really impressed with the battery life

Slutmonkey57b

squawker wrote: »

3days 14hrs 37seconds on one charge and plugged in the phone at 14%

this is with normal usage over three normal working days

I am really impressed with the battery life

But it's less than its predecessor, and only on par with a phone with 2,000 mah *less* in the tank that was released over 18 months ago. I didn't say it was bad, just that it's not where it should be.

RocketRaccoon

Slutmonkey57b wrote: »

But it's less than its predecessor, and only on par with a phone with 2,000 mah *less* in the tank that was released over 18 months ago. I didn't say it was bad, just that it's not where it should be.

Its a 3 day battery, how can anyone complain about that nowadays?

Slutmonkey57b

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

Its a 3 day battery, how can anyone complain about that nowadays?

You think that going backwards compared to its predecessor (despite a bigger battery) and being on par with a phone with 2,000 mah less is a good result? 3 days is good but a) it should have done better; b) if you turn up the sliders on GSMarena's tool you'll see that for what I'd consider a normal user it's about half of that; c) the Honor Note 10 gets similar life from a smaller battery, better panel and more demanding chipset.

I'm not arguing whether 3 days is good or not. I'm saying based on the specs, this phone should be getting a good day or more over something like the Note 10 and a lot more than that over the Galaxy A7.

squawker

Slutmonkey57b wrote: »

'm saying based on the specs, this phone should be getting a good day or more over something like the Note 10 and a lot more than that over the Galaxy A7.

its on a Beta ROM, give it a chance for that to be tweaked

I am doing another test, battery at 52% after 2d 8hr on xiaomi.eu Rom MIUI 10 8.8.9

Thargor

I got it. Holy crap its a big phone, such a premium feel to it though. Too tired to post properly about it but Im 100% satisfied with it, its an amazing device, cant stop looking at it...

greenore

Thargor wrote: »

I got it. Holy crap its a big phone, such a premium feel to it though. Too tired to post properly about it but Im 100% satisfied with it, its an amazing device, cant stop looking at it...

Where did you buy it and what rom it come with?

Skippy along

I see honorbuy have a global Version on there site now is that an official or a knock off version?
https://www.honorbuy.com/1509-xiaomi-mi-max-3-4gb-ram-64gb-rom-official-global-version-smartphone-black.html?search_query=Mi+Max+3&results=779

dougm1970

to those on here who have bought this...and got it..

how is the camera ??....specifically in low light ?

Thargor

greenore wrote: »

Where did you buy it and what rom it come with?

TradingShenzhen let you select the .EU rom from the dropdown but they're currently out of stock of that version, just the Chinese ROM for now, dont buy the fake Global ROM whatever you do:

https://tradingshenzhen.com/en/mi-max-3/1302-mi-max3-6gb-ram-128gb-rom-snapdragon-636.html#/37-firmware-original_en_chn/62-device_color-black/130-free_gift-usb_otg_cable_eu_adapter

This thing is such a beast, nicest piece of electronics Ive ever used

RocketRaccoon

Thargor wrote: »

TradingShenzhen let you select the .EU rom from the dropdown but they're currently out of stock of that version, just the Chinese ROM for now, dont buy the fake Global ROM whatever you do:

https://tradingshenzhen.com/en/mi-max-3/1302-mi-max3-6gb-ram-128gb-rom-snapdragon-636.html#/37-firmware-original_en_chn/62-device_color-black/130-free_gift-usb_otg_cable_eu_adapter

This thing is such a beast, nicest piece of electronics Ive ever used

What phone are you coming from? I'm trying to figure out if it's worth upgrading from the Mi Max 2

AH92

Would the 4gb ram be suficient if I don't do any gaming whatsoever and is the eu.rom version fine to go for ?
Thanks!

Thargor

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

What phone are you coming from? I'm trying to figure out if it's worth upgrading from the Mi Max 2

Im coming from the original OneplusOne that I bought 4 years ago so easily impressed, I do love smartphones and would know more about them than most though and theres really nothing here that disappoints me. Reception was spotty today but where I work its piss poor reception, people often have no internet on their iPhones and Samsungs, its been rock solid 4G all evening here at home.

AH92 wrote: »

Would the 4gb ram be suficient if I don't do any gaming whatsoever and is the eu.rom version fine to go for ?
Thanks!

All the reviewers on youtube are on 4GB versions because 6GB only appeared the other day and they all love it, playing PUBG and everything else with no bother. Would you not just splash a bit extra for the best version though? The .eu rom is what you want right now, and if it arrives with that it will mean the bootloader is already unlocked for you when it arrives so easy to flash the Global ROM when it appears or any decent custom ROMs. A lot of people will stay on .eu forever though, it updates weekly.

Just remember its BIG device, get the dimensions from GSMarena and make a paper model of it before you buy:

https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_max_3-8963.php

RocketRaccoon

Thargor wrote: »

Im coming from the original OneplusOne that I bought 4 years ago so easily impressed, I do love smartphones and would know more about them than most though and theres really nothing here that disappoints me. Reception was spotty today but where I work its piss poor reception, people often have no internet on their iPhones and Samsungs, its been rock solid 4G all evening here at home.
All the reviewers on youtube are on 4GB versions because 6GB only appeared the other day and they all love it, playing PUBG and everything else with no bother. Would you not just splash a bit extra for the best version though? The .eu rom is what you want right now, and if it arrives with that it will mean the bootloader is already unlocked for you when it arrives so easy to flash the Global ROM when it appears or any decent custom ROMs. A lot of people will stay on .eu forever though, it updates weekly.

Just remember its BIG device, get the dimensions from GSMarena and make a paper model of it before you buy:

https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_max_3-8963.php

I always have people telling me how big the 2 is but I'm just used to it now. It doesn't feel overly big anymore.