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Players Who were supposed to be the "Next big Thing" but weren't

  • 19-07-2018 7:41pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    I was just looking at an article about Monchi at Roma and Juan Iturbe was mentioned so googled him and saw much to my amazement that he played two games for Bournemouth in 15/16 season which clearly passed me by at the time. He is now just back to Roma from a loan in Mexico. I remember when he was at Porto (but loaned to Verona) and a big noise was being made about him, Conte at Juventus wanted him but Roma stepped in to nab him for about 20 million which was still a decent wedge back then. And then it all went horribly wrong, first season he couldn't get a regular place scoring twice in Seria A and once in Europe and then the loan to the Cherries Jan 2016 followed by Turin loan and Mexico where he hardly got a game. The only thing in his favour is that he is still only 25 and could rescue his career but it looks like it'll be at a pretty low level.

    So who else was big for fifteen minutes or maybe not at all - please no one mention Freddy Adu - that's practically a cheat move!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,742 ✭✭✭MyPeopleDrankTheSoup


    bojan is always the first name i think of when this question is posed. there was major hype for him when messi was becoming messi and the whispers were bojan was even better.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,496 ✭✭✭Will I Am Not


    Martin Odegaard. Haven’t really heard anything about him since his big move to Madrid. Still only 19 but it hasn’t really planned out as expected.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,926 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Odegaard is probably set for life with that Madrid contract even if he never kicks a ball again at the decent level.


    So football wise it may not work out for him however financially it has.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭dinorebel


    Ally Dick


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,500 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    Terry Dixon!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,480 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    ravel morrison


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,456 ✭✭✭larrymiller


    Ronaldo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,842 ✭✭✭crushproof


    fullstop wrote: »
    Terry Dixon!
    Blast from the past there!!

    Surely a classic example has to be Freddy Adu, incredible hype at the time. Also for us Champ Manager 01/02 fans, the prolific Cherno Samba.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,442 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hammer Archer


    fullstop wrote: »
    Terry Dixon!
    Feel so sorry for Dixon. He really could have been a great player but two dislocated kneecaps in a few years basically ended his career at a high level before he was out of his teens.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,779 ✭✭✭SureYWouldntYa


    Jack Rodwell and Micah Richards were two guys making lots of impressive performances in the pl when young but ended up doing little in the prime of their careers

    Pato had all the looks of a world class striker when he was first at Milan only to fade away since

    Giovanni Dos Santos was promising at Barca for a time and didnt live up to his potential, ditto for Gai Assulin who came a few years after


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 828 ✭✭✭JaMarcus


    Deisler for me.

    Succumbed to numerous injuries and depression in the end, retired early and set up a shop in his home village.

    Was supposed to be the next Michael Ballack.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,592 ✭✭✭✭Trigger


    Strictly from a United perspective Rodrigo Possebon and Giuseppe Rossi.. Both suffered horrible injuries in their teens, I’m not sure about Possebon but Rossi forged a decent enough career without ever hitting the heights expected of him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭Mezcita


    56 year old Freddy Adu.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 129 ✭✭thetimeisnow


    Adnjan januzai


  • Registered Users Posts: 348 ✭✭holy guacamole


    Two players who were bought for world record fees in the 90s but never went on to achieve greatness: Gianluigi Lentini and Denilson.

    In Lentini's case there were mitigating circumstances, he was involved in a serious car crash and although he recovered from his injuries he was never the same player again. He ended up moving down the divisions and spending what should have been his peak years at clubs like Cosenza and Canelli.

    Denilson went to Betis for £20m + in the late nineties and did little to justify his transfer fee with the club being relegated in his second season there. Think he ended up in the Saudi Arabian league in the end.

    Does anyone remember the name Sonny Pike? The little British kid who joined Ajax and was in McDonald's ads at aged just fourteen? Good article about him here.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 129 ✭✭thetimeisnow


    Stephen Hughes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,473 ✭✭✭✭Super-Rush


    Ross Barkley, Danny Wellbeck, Anthony Martial, Jack Wilshire, Theo Walcott.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,397 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    Luke Shaw...obviously has in some ways but not in football terms.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,214 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    Ryan Babel.
    Andy Carroll?
    Lazar Markovic
    Mario Balotelli
    Memphis Depay
    Alberto Aquilani
    El Haj Diouff (however you spell his name) broke on to the scene at the WC, then nothing.
    Mark Gonzalez


    Varying degrees of next big thing to zero

    Denilson (one of the Brazilians)
    Pato
    Alex

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,231 ✭✭✭Hercule Poirot


    I know he's still young but Renato Sanches should get a mention - he was a beast in Euro 2016 but has gone nowhere since then...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,284 ✭✭✭AidoEirE


    Ricardo Quaresma, was supposed to be the next ronaldo and hit high heights for portugal.

    Theres a player that was at QPR when in premier league. His name escapes me, was it Ravel Morrison?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,326 ✭✭✭Zapp Brannigan


    AidoEirE wrote: »
    Ricardo Quaresma, was supposed to be the next ronaldo and hit high heights for portugal.

    Theres a player that was at QPR when in premier league. His name escapes me, was it Ravel Morrison?
    Adel Taraabt?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    They were both at QPR


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,528 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    crushproof wrote: »
    Blast from the past there!!

    Surely a classic example has to be Freddy Adu, incredible hype at the time. Also for us Champ Manager 01/02 fans, the prolific Cherno Samba.

    Tonton Zola Moukoko.

    Seriously though, Michael Johnson for Man city.
    Tipped as a future england captain. Still only 30, now works as an estate agent
    michael-johnson-featured.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,284 ✭✭✭AidoEirE


    Adel Taraabt?

    Thats the lad, so much potentional but seemed to have a real attitude problem


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,037 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Any championship manager fans remember Cherno Samba. He was 15 I think in the game and was the next big hope.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,198 ✭✭✭Talisman


    There's a whole host of English players who failed to live up to the hype of their potential.

    Paul Gascoigne
    Jermaine Pennant
    David Bentley
    Richard Wright
    Billy Kenny
    Jody Morris
    Lee Sharpe
    Theo Walcott
    Danny Cadamarteri
    Michael Branch
    Ross Barkley
    Micah Richards
    Michael Johnson
    Jack Rodwell
    Kieron Dyer
    Andy Carroll
    Dean Ashton
    Seth Johnson
    Robbie Fowler
    Michael Owen


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,847 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    I know he's still young but Renato Sanches should get a mention - he was a beast in Euro 2016 but has gone nowhere since then...

    This is a complete myth...not sure why people say this so much.

    Young player of the tournament was given to him solely based on his miracle deflected goal against Poland


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭dinorebel


    Talisman wrote: »
    There's a whole host of English players who failed to live up to the hype of their potential.

    Paul Gascoigne
    Jermaine Pennant
    David Bentley
    Richard Wright
    Billy Kenny
    Jody Morris
    Lee Sharpe
    Theo Walcott
    Danny Cadamarteri
    Michael Branch
    Ross Barkley
    Micah Richards
    Michael Johnson
    Jack Rodwell
    Kieron Dyer
    Andy Carroll
    Dean Ashton
    Seth Johnson
    Robbie Fowler
    Michael Owen
    Dean Ashton was so unlucky with injuries he really looked to have everything.


    The real missed English player was David Hirst he was the same era as Shearer and looked the better player but again injuries finished him.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,225 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    niallo27 wrote:
    Any championship manager fans remember Cherno Samba. He was 15 I think in the game and was the next big hope.


    Had nothing on 03/04's Supat Rungratsamee. Legendary Thai striker who banged in 40/50 goals a season from the age of 16 upwards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,750 ✭✭✭redzerdrog


    Richie Partridge


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,495 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    Jo, Diouf and Bebe come to mind immediately, as well as the “next Roy Keane”, Eric Djemba Djemba.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,790 ✭✭✭Bret Hart


    Anthony le Tallec,Neil Mellor, Florent Sinama Pongolle,Bruno Cheyrou,Robinho,Macheda. Anderson,Wishere,Welbeck,Diouf, Liam Miller.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,023 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    In honor of his goal today... Lazar Markovic.


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    Talisman wrote: »
    There's a whole host of English players who failed to live up to the hype of their potential.

    Paul Gascoigne

    Guided England to the World Cup semis at 23 and Euro semis at 29? Played in the Premier League into his 30s? Recognised as.one of England's best players in recent decades?

    Granted, he never went on to realise his full potential but many might say he was very much a "big thing".


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭Plague Maiden


    Hernanes. He carved out a solid, title-winning career for himself in Italy, but huge things had been expected of him just before he moved to Europe but it never materialised.


  • Registered Users Posts: 418 ✭✭S. Goodspeed


    Ryan Babel.
    Andy Carroll?
    Lazar Markovic
    Mario Balotelli
    Memphis Depay
    Alberto Aquilani
    El Haj Diouff (however you spell his name) broke on to the scene at the WC, then nothing.
    Mark Gonzalez

    Gonzalez (and possibly Mario) is the only one there who I think falls into the category of “next big thing, then nothing”. The rest were over rated, over paid for or just didn’t reach their potential but don’t think they were ever hyped as the “next big thing”. I’m still disappointed though by how average / bad “Speedy Gonzalez” turned out!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear


    Yoann Gourcuff.

    The next Zidane, and for a few years he really looked the part, scoring worldies dribbling past 3 or four, getting into the French side, but then it all petered out a bit. He's 32 now and still had a good career in Ligue 1, but in another universe he just captained France to that world cup win.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear


    Gonzalez (and possibly Mario) is the only one there who I think falls into the category of “next big thing, then nothing”. The rest were over rated, over paid for or just didn’t reach their potential but don’t think they were ever hyped as the “next big thing”. I’m still disappointed though by how average / bad “Speedy Gonzalez” turned out!

    Babel definitely looked class. In that first season for Liverpool even, he looked showed a fair bit of quality. Great pace, strength, shot like a ballistic missile, decent dribbler. Scored some crackers, and got a few important goals in the CL, as I recall.

    I think he was just not very intelligent, and ended up being a bit of a one trick pony.

    That whole Dutch youth side are probably contenders. Drenthe, Elia were others who promised much and delivered little.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,421 ✭✭✭major bill


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Any championship manager fans remember Cherno Samba. He was 15 I think in the game and was the next big hope.

    01/02 Jonas Lunden of Goteborg, a bargain at 250k , him and kim kallstrom (BK Hacken) were wonder kids , Kim went on to play for Lyon while Lunden went on and remained in swedish leagues.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭marklazarcovic


    Mido.. fm legend


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,569 ✭✭✭mugsymugsy


    Francis Jeffers - arsenal even paid crazy money to Everton for him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,198 ✭✭✭Talisman


    Guided England to the World Cup semis at 23 and Euro semis at 29? Played in the Premier League into his 30s? Recognised as.one of England's best players in recent decades?

    Granted, he never went on to realise his full potential but many might say he was very much a "big thing".
    A "big thing" for the English tabloids but that was about it - He was a phenomenal youth talent but accomplished nothing with it. He dragged Tottenham to the 1991 FA Cup Final where he self destructed. The other highlight of his career was scoring a goal against Scotland at Euro 96.

    Gascoigne should have been remembered as one of the greats of the game, sadly he couldn't handle the pressure.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭Too Tough To Die


    Sergio Canales


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    Talisman wrote: »
    There's a whole host of English players who failed to live up to the hype of their potential.

    Michael Owen


    Michael Owen won the Balon D'or ffs :pac:


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    Talisman wrote: »
    A "big thing" for the English tabloids but that was about it - He was a phenomenal youth talent but accomplished nothing with it. He dragged Tottenham to the 1991 FA Cup Final where he self destructed. The other highlight of his career was scoring a goal against Scotland at Euro 96.

    Gascoigne should have been remembered as one of the greats of the game, sadly he couldn't handle the pressure.

    I remember Gascoigne as a great player in the 90s. I think many do. It's not limited to tabloids.

    One could say he was a fat kid addicted to Mars Bars who went on to star in a run to the World Cup and Euro semis and had a lucrative career, although he was prone to injury and played for clubs that had limited success. He certainly did not maximise his talents, but I disagree with the idea that he was never a "big thing".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭HalloweenJack


    Lulinha is a name I remeber seeing around a lot, nothing ever seems to have come of him. He might have been more of an FM wonder.

    Kerlon was another one. He had a rough time with injuries, though.

    Keirrision was one I had high hopes for. I don't quite know where that went wrong for him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭Sheridan81


    I think if Gazza was a big thing, then so is Balotelli.

    Javier Pastore, the next Kaka.
    Valeri Bojinov, the next Stoichkov.
    David Bentley, the next Beckham.
    Davide Santon, the next Bergomi.

    Andrea Ranocchia came along at the same time as Bonucci and they were tipped to be a great partnership for Italy a la Nesta and Cannavaro in their early days, but it didn't work out so much for him.

    Robinho and Diego also never lived up to the hype of their Santos days, although both had good careers.

    Davide Petrucci, the next Totti.
    https://www.givemesport.com/1266875-what-happened-to-the-youngster-dubbed-the-new-totti-who-signed-for-man-utd-in-2008

    From an Irish perspective, Stephen Ireland outshone Robinho at Man City one season, was named Manchester player of the year...then nothing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,385 ✭✭✭Nerdlingr


    Julen Guerrero

    Spain's bright hope in the mid 90's. Stayed at Bilbao his whole career. Never moved.
    Never quite had the career he could or should have had.


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    Sheridan81 wrote: »
    I think if Gazza was a big thing, then so is Balotelli.

    Not sure I get the analogy. It seems to be just putting the names of footballers together.

    I think if Gascoigne was not a big thing, then no English midfielder ever was a big thing. Or at least this side of 1966.


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