The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V3

Itssoeasy

eagle eye wrote: »

And the Chiefs had a casec too don't forget.

A practice squad player yes. But both the patriots and chiefs have had no further positives since the middle of last week so what reason could the league use to say it’s a risk to play the game tonight.

Foxtrol

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Well the patriots had one confirmed case and yes it’s not fair but the Titans ants patriots situation aren’t the same thing as the Titans had multiple players and staff positive.

Yeah, a game wouldn't be stopped if a QB had the flu or any other sickness that stopped him from playing so I don't see why this would be different here, presuming it hadn't spread throughout the team.

The Falcon's already played on when one player went on the COVID list.

eagle eye

Itssoeasy wrote:

A practice squad player yes. But both the patriots and chiefs have had no further positives since the middle of last week so what reason could the league use to say it’s a risk to play the game tonight.

When was the Titans game called off?

el Fenomeno

I think the NFL are being a bit naive, probably deliberately so. The timeline of the Titans covid outbreak could very well happen in New England. Taking negative tests at face value that no one else in New England has covid is a bit premature.

Day 1: First case
Day 2
Day 3: Second case
Day 4
Day 5
Day 6: 8 more cases
Day 7: 1 more case
Day 8: 2 more cases
Day 9: 2 more cases
Day 10: 3 more cases
Day 11: 2 more cases

Itssoeasy

eagle eye wrote: »

When was the Titans game called off?

Early last week when it became clear that there was an issue with the Titans and covid. The vikings closed their facility but thankfully no cases.

ACitizenErased

Bill O Brien fired, wowzer. Didn't think they'd do it.

Hococop

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Bill O Brien fired, wowzer. Didn't think they'd do it.

Think he was on thin ice after the hopkins trade, a few losses were always gonna kill him

Itssoeasy

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Bill O Brien fired, wowzer. Didn't think they'd do it.

Well they are 0-4 and he’s been a disaster as GM which has left them in a mess with lack of draft picks. He’s had long enough to get it right with some very good players.

el Fenomeno

0-4 and Miami own his first and second round draft picks. Not surprised.

The_Honeybadger

They should have gotten rid of him before they let him burn the place to the ground. What a mess he has left after him.

eagle eye

Texans need an offensive minded head coach I think.

Shedite27

As Peter King pointed out, the way they're fixtures are ending up, they could end up a 4-12 team this year, with about the 5th/6th draft pick. But they traded away their first and 2nd round pick this year (presumably assuming they'd get a playoff draft pick)

Jolly Red Giant

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Bill O Brien fired, wowzer. Didn't think they'd do it.

From the Texans perspective its about 4 years too late. The guy is a moron and wasted a talented roster.

raze_them_all_

David Johnson you haven't been the same since 2016, so naturally Bob traded Hopkins who everyone knows is a stud, so let's have a look, Watson has no real reciever, no o line to protect him, a busted rb who only looks productive cos Bob was force feeding him.

About ****ing time texans.

eagle eye

raze_them_all_ wrote:

David Johnson you haven't been the same since 2016, so naturally Bob traded Hopkins who everyone knows is a stud, so let's have a look, Watson has no real reciever, no o line to protect him, a busted rb who only looks productive cos Bob was force feeding him.

About ****ing time texans.

I'm with you on O'Brien and the Hopkins trade was insane.
However they have Fuller who is a fine receiver and Cooks is a good one too.
And David Johnson looks back to himself but he hasn't been used right.
The biggest issue there, even bigger than the draft pick problem, is the money they gave Watson. He isn't worth it and should never have got it. He never proved himself worth anything close to that money.

paulie21

Stephon Gilmore has tested positive for Covid

BonnieSituation

paulie21 wrote: »

Stephon Gilmore has tested positive for Covid

There's gonna be a flood now at NE and KC I would wager.

Masked Man

Raiders player has tested positive as well apparently and so has another Titans player which means they can't go back to the facility.

Next week could be a bit choppy.

eagle eye

BonnieSituation wrote:

There's gonna be a flood now at NE and KC I would wager.

Wouldn't surprise me, remember both had cases in advance of the game. It shouldn't have went ahead imo.

el Fenomeno

It most definitely should not have went ahead. Remember, you can be asymptomatic and still spread the virus while testing negative soon after you catch it.

So putting a bunch of players and staff on an airplane together for a 5 hour flight was a terrible idea.

The NFL are not concerned about the players wellbeing, they were concerned with having the game go ahead before more negative tests showed up. It was very well publicised how much of a headache a cancelled NE/KC game would be, as opposed to a cancelled TEN/PIT game where the bye weeks worked out very generously to facilitate a reschedule. That wasn't the case for NE/KC - the only scenario people who looked at it in great detail were able to put forward was a a Week 18 added to the end of the season.

I posted it earlier, but a reminder on what the Titans pattern of infection was:

Day 1: First case
Day 2
Day 3: Second case
Day 4
Day 5
Day 6: 8 more cases
Day 7: 1 more case
Day 8: 2 more cases
Day 9: 2 more cases
Day 10: 3 more cases
Day 11: 2 more cases

The NE cases will likely balloon now.

adrian522

Top 3 Stories on ESPN:

Source: Pats' Gilmore tests positive; no practice
Source: 2 Titans players test positive for virus
Source: Raiders' Hurst tests positive for virus

BonnieSituation

eagle eye wrote: »

Wouldn't surprise me, remember both had cases in advance of the game. It shouldn't have went ahead imo.

It shouldn't have went ahead alright and not cos Cam was out. :P

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Honestly could not see the logic of postponing the game for such a short period. We all know at this stage how the virus works.

We can knock our trip to Foxboro on the head now.

NE and DEN to have bye weeks this week is the sensible way forward at the very least anyway.

BonnieSituation

adrian522 wrote: »

Top 3 Stories on ESPN:

Source: Pats' Gilmore tests positive; no practice
Source: 2 Titans players test positive for virus
Source: Raiders' Hurst tests positive for virus

So now we're looking at the Bills now to get tested. Or should I say, we should be looking at the Bills to get tested.

Foxtrol

The NFL took the same approach to the Patriots & Chiefs as the did with the Falcons earlier in the year. No one kicked up a fuss nor were there additional cases. You can't have different rules for depending on which team or player is impacted.

I originally didn't believe the season would go ahead due to the mess it causes when players eventually tested positive.

If the NFL are going to cancel all team activities and postpone games for 14 days after every positive case then they might as well cancel the season at this point. You wouldn't be playing the Super Bowl until late next summer.

Itssoeasy

Masked Man wrote: »

Raiders player has tested positive as well apparently and so has another Titans player which means they can't go back to the facility.

Next week could be a bit choppy.

Scott Hanson better know how to tap dance this Sunday.

Foxtrol

It is unsurprising but insanity that States are approving this number of people attend events. It was so stupid for the NFL not have blanket rules for all teams regarding attendance.

https://twitter.com/AndySlater/status/1313872647915106304?s=20

BonnieSituation

Foxtrol wrote: »

It is unsurprising but insanity that States are approving this number of people attend events. It was so stupid for the NFL not have blanket rules for all teams regarding attendance.

https://twitter.com/AndySlater/status/1313872647915106304?s=20

Massive case of Florida off that though tbf.

Foxtrol

BonnieSituation wrote: »

Massive case of Florida off that though tbf.

Very much so. I don't think Dolphins will do it but the NFL have put teams in a tough position if local politicians and fans start putting pressure on them because they have the 'green light'

Foxtrol

el Fenomeno wrote: »

It most definitely should not have went ahead. Remember, you can be asymptomatic and still spread the virus while testing negative soon after you catch it.

So putting a bunch of players and staff on an airplane together for a 5 hour flight was a terrible idea.

The NFL are not concerned about the players wellbeing, they were concerned with having the game go ahead before more negative tests showed up. It was very well publicised how much of a headache a cancelled NE/KC game would be, as opposed to a cancelled TEN/PIT game where the bye weeks worked out very generously to facilitate a reschedule. That wasn't the case for NE/KC - the only scenario people who looked at it in great detail were able to put forward was a a Week 18 added to the end of the season.

I posted it earlier, but a reminder on what the Titans pattern of infection was:

Day 1: First case
Day 2
Day 3: Second case
Day 4
Day 5
Day 6: 8 more cases
Day 7: 1 more case
Day 8: 2 more cases
Day 9: 2 more cases
Day 10: 3 more cases
Day 11: 2 more cases

The NE cases will likely balloon now.

Looks like the cases for the Titans have been made worse by the fact players met up separately to train together last week, to get around their facility being closed. Such stupidity

el Fenomeno

Foxtrol wrote: »

Looks like the cases for the Titans have been made worse by the fact players met up separately to train together last week, to get around their facility being closed. Such stupidity

That's mind-numbingly stupid.

I feel less sympathetic to them potentially having to forfeit this weekend's game if it comes to it.

Foxtrol

el Fenomeno wrote: »

That's mind-numbingly stupid.

I feel less sympathetic to them potentially having to forfeit this weekend's game if it comes to it.

Apparently 15 players including Tannehill. They should be punished heavily, right up to forfeiting this weekend if they still cant play.

Their players are still defending/making excuses so clearly don't understand the dangers they're putting themselves and the league in

https://twitter.com/Rodger_Saffold/status/1313901992713105408?s=20

BonnieSituation

That's so moronic.

Livelihoods? They're getting paid if they opt out and if they don't play, they're literally the most cosseted group of employees in the US.

Hope they get their asses handed to them.

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Is forfeiture an available sanction or is it just boards talk?

Shedite27

Foxtrol wrote: »

It is unsurprising but insanity that States are approving this number of people attend events. It was so stupid for the NFL not have blanket rules for all teams regarding attendance.

https://twitter.com/AndySlater/status/1313872647915106304?s=20

They didn't even sell out the first game of their 13,000 capacity setup (week 2). Only sold 11,000 tickets.

The_Honeybadger

Shedite27 wrote: »

They didn't even sell out the first game of their 13,000 capacity setup (week 2). Only sold 11,000 tickets.

Yeah was thinking they will be hard pressed to find 65,000 people all willing to pack themselves in to a stadium this weekend considering what is going on.

Re Titans absolutely moronic if they had unauthorised meet-ups last week, there is a real chance they will be forced in to a forfeit v the Bills this weekend by all accounts. As a Steelers fan that would be rather annoying given they rearranged that game, messing up our schedule and forcing the Steelers to take a week 4 bye when they are nearly fully healthy. Not the end of the world but a bit unbalanced to give one forfeit and not the other if it comes to that.

eagle eye

el Fenomeno wrote:

That's mind-numbingly stupid.

Does it surprise you?

el Fenomeno

eagle eye wrote: »

Does it surprise you?

Nothing NFL players do surprises me in terms of stupidity.

Anyway, 2 more positives for the Titans today. Not looking good for that game going ahead.

boccy23

And next to fall are the Jets:

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1314563628138463233

paulie21

One of the contingency plans surely creates extra weeks on the schedule a long time between first Sunday in February and 2nd in September

Itssoeasy

paulie21 wrote: »

One of the contingency plans surely creates extra weeks on the schedule a long time between first Sunday in February and 2nd in September

I mean who needs a pro bowl ? It’s the most pointless game every year. Use that week for the conference championships and only a week between super bowl and conference championships. Also, if they want to keep the playoffs as they were timeline wise and seeing as they cancelled the pre season why didn’t they start the season earlier and and build in time in anticipation of what is happening now.

mikemac2

Julian Edelman or Julio Jones may get the attention for passing attempts but the most accurate passer in NFL history is Ravens punter Sam Koch

7/7

Also the best punter in the NFL :cool:

Christy42

Itssoeasy wrote: »

I mean who needs a pro bowl ? It’s the most pointless game every year. Use that week for the conference championships and only a week between super bowl and conference championships. Also, if they want to keep the playoffs as they were timeline wise and seeing as they cancelled the pre season why didn’t they start the season earlier and and build in time in anticipation of what is happening now.

Plus unless we get some serious let up with covid then the pro bowl would have to be one of the most monumentally stupid things you could do. Mixing a load of different teams together for a pointless game.

Realt Dearg Sec

Christy42 wrote: »

Plus unless we get some serious let up with covid then the pro bowl would have to be one of the most monumentally stupid things you could do. Mixing a load of different teams together for a pointless game.

I didn't think it was possible to imagine something more pointless than the pro-bowl each year, but you found it: the pro-bowl THIS year.

Itssoeasy

Ian rappaport has been taken off the air until October 22nd because of something he posted on one of his social media accounts that hadn’t been approved by the network. Did he get a story so badly wrong or something ?

There’s so many differing answers on Twitter that it’s hard to know what’s the right one. An NFL Memes joke about Carson Wentz pops up the most but it’s being kept fairly quiet whatever it is.

The_Honeybadger

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Ian rappaport has been taken off the air until October 22nd because of something he posted on one of his social media accounts that hadn’t been approved by the network. Did he get a story so badly wrong or something ?

He posted an unauthorised endorsement for a shaving product supposedly. Seems a bit extreme to suspend him but I guess they don’t want their reporters using work accounts for side gigs.

paulie21

Dan Quinn and Thomas Dimitroff have been unsurprisingly fired by Atlanta

TheDoctor

Apparently with yesterday’s victory, Baker Mayfield tied Ben Roethlisberger as the all-time winningest quarterback in FirstEnergy Stadium history with 11 wins.

eagle eye

Well while your on Browns stuff, last winning season was 2007 and current interim Texans head coach of Romeo Crennel was in charge.

BonnieSituation

eagle eye wrote: »

Well while your on Browns stuff, last winning season was 2007 and current interim Texans head coach of Romeo Crennel was in charge.

Last 4-1 start and Bill was in charge.

AbusesToilets

BonnieSituation wrote: »

Last 4-1 start and Bill was in charge.

That mean they're about to up sticks and move the franchise?