The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V3

Jolly Red Giant

It looks like the Eagles want to tank for the next 4/5 seasons if they are remotely considering McDisaster or the noxious windbag.

Seriously - how badly do you really want to wreck a franchise?

brinty

Jolly Red Giant wrote:

It looks like the Eagles want to tank for the next 4/5 seasons if they are remotely considering McDisaster or the noxious windbag.

As a Cowboys fans I've no complaints about this

eagle eye

Jolly Red Giant wrote:

It looks like the Eagles want to tank for the next 4/5 seasons if they are remotely considering McDisaster or the noxious windbag.

Seriously - how badly do you really want to wreck a franchise?

Who's McDisaster, if you are referring to McDanield it's be nice if you used his proper name instead of a childish nickname so we could all be certain who you are talking about.
I've no clue who 'the noxious windbag' is.

eagle eye

phatkev wrote:

I wouldnt wish him or Adam Gase on any team in the NFL!No fan should have to go through that

Amazing how people pick on the coaches.
How do you rate Rex Ryan and Todd Bowles? I personally think they are two excellent coaches but chose the wrong job because the owner is bad.
I think Saleh is going to find that out very shortly.
Gase has a bad rep because of some of the things he did but he was with the Jets so it's hard to really know.
I'd be willing to risk taking on a former Jets head coach than somebody who didn't do well at any other franchise.

Itssoeasy

brinty wrote: »

As a Cowboys fans I've no complaints about this

Yeah because the cowboys are overflowing with success. I’ll admit it’s gone to **** and I’m not happy about it but the eagles have been in two Super Bowls(should have been more) in the last 20 years and won one and have been to at least five NFC championship games in that time period. The cowboys have only won four playoff games total in 25 years. It’s a bit ridiculous at this stage.

adrian522

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Yeah because the cowboys are overflowing with success. I’ll admit it’s gone to **** and I’m not happy about it but the eagles have been in two Super Bowls(should have been more) in the last 20 years and won one and have been to at least five NFC championship games in that time period. The cowboys have only won four playoff games total in 25 years. It’s a bit ridiculous at this stage.

:D

brinty

Itssoeasy wrote:

Yeah because the cowboys are overflowing with success. I’ll admit it’s gone to **** and I’m not happy about it but the eagles have been in two Super Bowls(should have been more) in the last 20 years and won one and have been to at least five NFC championship games in that time period. The cowboys have only won four playoff games total in 25 years. It’s a bit ridiculous at this stage.

That's how poor that cowboys have been and yet the Eagles are still in our shadows

Itssoeasy

adrian522 wrote: »

:D

You may have got the popcorn out unnecessarily Adrian. I hate the cowboys and cowboys fans hate the eagles. That’s no big secret.

eagle eye

brinty wrote:

That's how poor that cowboys have been and yet the Eagles are still in our shadows

Lol, a recent Superbowl winner in your shadow?
I think you need to wake up and stop dreaming.

Itssoeasy

brinty wrote: »

That's how poor that cowboys have been and yet the Eagles are still in our shadows

In your shadows ? The only shadows the eagles have ever been in with Dallas was playing in that stupid stadium with the hole in the roof(to let god in or whatever stupid phrase they used) and that field that when it rained looked worse than the field in the silverdome in Detroit after it was abandoned.

el Fenomeno

brinty wrote: »

That's how poor that cowboys have been and yet the Eagles are still in our shadows

This is gas, funniest thing I've read on here in a while and I have no strong feelings about either team - you'd be the same fool taking the piss out of Liverpool fans a few years back if they said the same thing about Man Utd.

brinty

brinty wrote: »

That's how poor that cowboys have been and yet the Eagles are still in our shadows

phatkev

eagle eye wrote: »

Amazing how people pick on the coaches.
How do you rate Rex Ryan and Todd Bowles? I personally think they are two excellent coaches but chose the wrong job because the owner is bad.
I think Saleh is going to find that out very shortly.
Gase has a bad rep because of some of the things he did but he was with the Jets so it's hard to really know.
I'd be willing to risk taking on a former Jets head coach than somebody who didn't do well at any other franchise.

Gase is a horrible head coach, he's showed that with the Dolphins and the Jets!

Rex was a decent coach and provided some of my fondest memories as a Jets fan, but ultimately his ego ended up getting in the way. By the end of his tenure with the Jets the locker room was completing split in two, cant have that with a HC. He went on to do sweet fcuk all with the Bills and hasnt had a coaching job since!

Bowles is a superb DC, no doubt and he may be an excellent HC in time. But he showed many reasons why he was not up to a HC standard when with the Jets. His first downfall was his absolutely horrid game management, this could be expected with the majority of first time HCs but Bowles seemed to get worse as time went on. He also continually had one of the most undisciplined teams in the NFL.
As I said, Bowles will get another crack at a HC job and I'd wish him all the best at it

Lionbacker

It was reported earlier today that the new Lions head coach is going to be Dan Campbell, who is the assistant HC & Tight ends coach at the Saints, but it can't be officially announced until they are eliminated (or win the superbowl) this postseason.

Dont know much about him so hard to know how to feel about the hire, however one thing that does stick out is that he looks exactly like PC principal from South Park:pac:

BonnieSituation

Lionbacker wrote: »

It was reported earlier today that the new Lions head coach is going to be Dan Campbell, who is the assistant HC & Tight ends coach at the Saints, but it can't be officially announced until they are eliminated (or win the superbowl) this postseason.

Dont know much about him so hard to know how to feel about the hire, however one thing that does stick out is that he looks exactly like PC principal from South Park:pac:

Can't wait to see him check the NFCN's privilege.

Shedite27

Another late night of NFL followed by a days work with too many coffees had me thinking, EU is due to abolish daylight savings this year (as things stand*, we're not going to change our clocks in October 2021).

Am I right in thinking that will be even worse for us next year? If US go with daylight savings we'll be 6 hours behind won't we? So Sunday NFL for the second half of the season will be from 7pm to 1:30am.

* I say as things stand as I think there will be fuss kicked up if UK don't do it and we end up with a time zone difference to the north

brinty

brinty wrote: »

That's how poor that cowboys have been and yet the Eagles are still in our shadows

😂 That's gold.

On the subject brady's played one year in the nfc and he has more nfc championship appearances than the cowboys since the mid to late 90s

Itssoeasy

Lily Thoughtless Swimmer wrote: »

�� That's gold.

On the subject brady's played one year in the nfc and he has more nfc championship appearances than the cowboys since the mid to late 90s

It’s funny alright. I mean the battle lines are well established. Eagles fans don’t like the Dallas cowboys and cowboys fans aren’t very fond of the eagles. They are living off that America’s team thing a lot. I’ve never understood why the team gets the excessive attention beyond what they should get. They’ve not won anything is years yet by right they should have. They last won a super bowl the year I turned ten for jaysus sake.

raze_them_all_

Here's a fun question... When was the last time anyone thought cowboys had a genuine shot at a superbowl

raze_them_all_

raze_them_all_ wrote: »

Here's a fun question... When was the last time anyone thought cowboys had a genuine shot at a superbowl

I would have thought this year at the start of the season.

ReginaldSmythV

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

I would have thought this year at the start of the season.

Not with that defence

Foxtrol

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

I would have thought this year at the start of the season.

Embarrassingly I felt they had a decent shot this year. McCarthy truly fooled me with what he claimed he learned during his time off. Between McCarthy, losing Dak, and the defense playing terrible they never had a chance. I'll note that I still don't think the defense is as bad as it seemed, the coaching didn't come close to getting the most out of them in addition to all their big name offseason signings being complete busts.

From an old school rivalry perspective I'm glad it didn't turn out as well as I believed it would.

BizzyC

Shedite27 wrote: »

Another late night of NFL followed by a days work with too many coffees had me thinking, EU is due to abolish daylight savings this year (as things stand*, we're not going to change our clocks in October 2021).

Am I right in thinking that will be even worse for us next year? If US go with daylight savings we'll be 6 hours behind won't we? So Sunday NFL for the second half of the season will be from 7pm to 1:30am.

* I say as things stand as I think there will be fuss kicked up if UK don't do it and we end up with a time zone difference to the north

Depends on what the new year-round standard becomes.
If we stick to GMT, they'll go between 4 in summer and 5 in winter.
If we stick to BST, it will be 5 in summer and 6 in winter.

brinty

And now the Eagles have moved from wanting Kellen Moore to waiting or special teams coach at their head coach...

And they try and say they're not in our shadows.... Always's wanting out staff

brinty

raze_them_all_ wrote:

Here's a fun question... When was the last time anyone thought cowboys had a genuine shot at a superbowl

I think 2016 when Romo was slated to start the season and then got injured we had a shot.

Realistically our defence isn't close to good. Is less useful than a waterproof teabag... Until we start building up a defence with mentioning and rebuild oir offensive line were years away from being close.

McCarthy was never there prophet or messiah he was made out to be and has hindered them. His buddies screwed the pooch last year and unless he's careful and performs in 2021 he'll be out the door.

BonnieSituation

brinty wrote: »

I think 2016 when Romo was slated to start the season and then got injured we had a shot.

Realistically our defence isn't close to good. Is less useful than a waterproof teabag... Until we start building up a defence with mentioning and rebuild oir offensive line were years away from being close.

McCarthy was never there prophet or messiah he was made out to be and has hindered them. His buddies screwed the pooch last year and unless he's careful and performs in 2021 he'll be out the door.

At least a waterproof teabag doesn't let anything through.

BonnieSituation

BonnieSituation wrote: »

At least a waterproof teabag doesn't let anything through.

Don't worry we'll have the off-season and then the draft and then dallas will be overyhyped again by the start of the season for no real reason

brinty

Lily Thoughtless Swimmer wrote:

Don't worry we'll have the off-season and then the draft and then dallas will be overyhyped again by the start of the season for no real reason

Well I won't be ovehyping them and I know the people I talk to regularly won't either. I talk to a lot of people close to the team and media who report on them (I'm part of the UK fan club admin team) and they would agree the team is a long way off.

markc91

Any other Vikings fans here? whats the thoughts on the offseason and draft?

raze_them_all_

Lily Thoughtless Swimmer wrote: »

Not with that defence

Not with that coach

brinty

brinty wrote: »

Well I won't be ovehyping them and I know the people I talk to regularly won't either. I talk to a lot of people close to the team and media who report on them (I'm part of the UK fan club admin team) and they would agree the team is a long way off.

Tis just the media to be fair I'd imagine your relatively realistic about your chances but over the last 20 years or so that iv been watching the nfl I think there's been 2 maby 3 years at a stretch that theve even be in the picture. Jerry jones is am awful gm I think stephen looks better in fairness to him

raze_them_all_

raze_them_all_ wrote: »

Not with that coach

Don't think Mike mccarthy is the man either to be honest although this was a particularly difficult year for first year head coaches

Foxtrol

brinty wrote: »

Well I won't be ovehyping them and I know the people I talk to regularly won't either. I talk to a lot of people close to the team and media who report on them (I'm part of the UK fan club admin team) and they would agree the team is a long way off.

I've found the majority of the serious media assigned to teams to be pretty pessimistic in general (outside of some obvious cheerleaders who thinks the team does nothing wrong).

At the start of the 2019 season most of the 49ers media felt they were a long way off and were thinking making the playoffs would be a huge success. I feel they nearly see it as a badge of honour to go against the hype of the fans.

I think the coaching is what has really let the Cowboys down and looks to continue to waste a quite talented squad, though it is unclear how much the Jones' stick their nose into that aspect of the team.

brinty

Lily Thoughtless Swimmer wrote:

Tis just the media to be fair I'd imagine your relatively realistic about your chances but over the last 20 years or so that iv been watching the nfl I think there's been 2 maby 3 years at a stretch that theve even be in the picture. Jerry jones is am awful gm I think stephen looks better in fairness to him

Yep I'd always try and be reasonable. A division future is always possible in the east. Is being a consistent 10-12 have winning team every season that we need to get too.

Lily Thoughtless Swimmer wrote:

Don't think Mike mccarthy is the man either to be honest although this was a particularly difficult year for first year head coaches

You're not wrong, wasn't a fan of his appointment. And look Stefanski did well, Rivera win NFC east, so I don't buy the first year great coach thing.

Foxtrol wrote:

I think the coaching is what has really let the Cowboys down and looks to continue to waste a quite talented squad, though it is unclear how much the Jones' stick their nose into that aspect of the team.

Joneses don't stick their noses in as much and Will mcclay the de facto GM is very good at being that buffer. He drafts well when he's allowed too, Marinelli was a whore for putting his nose in and picking dross like Taco Charlton and Trysten Hill.But Garrett and McCarthy are poor and wasting the best years of multiple careers and it could get worse before it gets better.

letowski

Philip Rivers is retiring from football. I think he has a high school head coaching role lined up in his home state of Alabama.

Pity for him he didn’t get that Super Bowl, in an AFC conference era of a lot of exceptional QBs.

Puts the Colts in another hole at QB again.

ELM327

Gotta pay for all them kids, suprised he didnt play another year or two. He's clearly still got it, but maybe that's how he wants to go out

The_Honeybadger

Thought he could have given it another year, I wonder did the Colts indicate to him that they wouldn’t be bringing him back.

Great career, pity for him that he didn’t have more success with the Chargers

letowski

The_Honeybadger wrote: »

Thought he could have given it another year, I wonder did the Colts indicate to him that they wouldn’t be bringing him back.

Great career, pity for him that he didn’t have more success with the Chargers

Yeah I think they did. I was watching GM Chris Ballard's end of season presser, and certainly he was giving the indication that he wanted Rivers back. Either way, it puts the Colts in the critical need group for a QB this offseason

Christy42

letowski wrote: »

Yeah I think they did. I was watching GM Chris Ballard's end of season presser, and certainly he was giving the indication that he wanted Rivers back. Either way, it puts the Colts in the critical need group for a QB this offseason

They have gotten by with Brisset before and could do so again. I don't think he is the long term answer there but they aren't critical enough to need to overpay.

letowski

Christy42 wrote: »

They have gotten by with Brisset before and could do so again. I don't think he is the long term answer there but they aren't critical enough to need to overpay.

Yeah I could see a situation where they hold onto Brissett as a bridge QB or back-up and draft a replacement this year.

MileHighGuy

Can't wait for the....... "is Rivers a HOF QB ?" conversation....always gets feisty!

Someone mentioned that a Wentz rehabilitation project might start in Indianapolis (with Reich), but the contract situation would need to be worked out (and that does not seem possible)

Brissett was definitely serviceable, but with that roster, they have a chance to be really good the next few years if they can plug the QB gap.

MileHighGuy

Some interesting Free Agent QBs hitting the market this year,

Dak Prescott
Mitch Trubisky
Jameis Winston
Dwayne Haskins
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Andy Dalton
Jacoby Brissett(!)
Tyrod Taylor
Cam Newton

then you may have a few tradeable QBs,

Deshaun Watson
Matt Ryan
Gardiner Minshew
Sam Darnold
Matt Stafford
Drew Lock

letowski

MileHighGuy wrote: »

Can't wait for the....... "is Rivers a HOF QB ?" conversation....always gets feisty!

Someone mentioned that a Wentz rehabilitation project might start in Indianapolis (with Reich), but the contract situation would need to be worked out (and that does not seem possible)

Brissett was definitely serviceable, but with that roster, they have a chance to be really good the next few years if they can plug the QB gap.

Yeah the Colts get a lot of Carson Wentz media coverage their way as Wentz's ideal landing spot. I don't see it to be honest. Ballard has a bit of a penchant for leadership and character guys, so I don't think he will take on the risk. It would be his first long term move at the QB position, I'd say he won't be comfortable with it. Likely draft is where he will make his move, though picking in the 20s is tricky.

This is the definition of QB purgatory. I suppose as a Colts were due a few years of this given we got Manning and Luck in consecutive eras.

BonnieSituation

MileHighGuy wrote: »

Some interesting Free Agent QBs hitting the market this year,

Dak Prescott
Mitch Trubisky
Jameis Winston
Dwayne Haskins
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Andy Dalton
Jacoby Brissett(!)
Tyrod Taylor
Cam Newton

then you may have a few tradeable QBs,

Deshaun Watson
Matt Ryan
Gardiner Minshew
Sam Darnold
Matt Stafford
Drew Lock

Stafford to Denver please!

ELM327

MileHighGuy wrote: »

Some interesting Free Agent QBs hitting the market this year,

Dak Prescott
Mitch Trubisky
Jameis Winston
Dwayne Haskins
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Andy Dalton
Jacoby Brissett(!)
Tyrod Taylor
Cam Newton

then you may have a few tradeable QBs,

Deshaun Watson
Matt Ryan
Gardiner Minshew
Sam Darnold
Matt Stafford
Drew Lock

Hopefully one of the bolded ones end up in NE

cosatron

ELM327 wrote: »

Hopefully one of the bolded ones end up in NE

I think they will draft Mac Jones and start into there rebuild. I think he will still be on the board at 15

Dufflecoat Fanny

letowski wrote: »

Philip Rivers is retiring from football. I think he has a high school head coaching role lined up in his home state of Alabama.

Pity for him he didn’t get that Super Bowl, in an AFC conference era of a lot of exceptional QBs.

Puts the Colts in another hole at QB again.

I Don't pity the dour bollix

Podge_irl

What are the Jags thinking with making Baalke the GM. His handling of an excellent 9ers squad - both his drafting and relations with the HC - were utterly appalling.

MileHighGuy

MileHighGuy wrote: »

Can't wait for the....... "is Rivers a HOF QB ?" conversation....always gets feisty!

Someone mentioned that a Wentz rehabilitation project might start in Indianapolis (with Reich), but the contract situation would need to be worked out (and that does not seem possible)

Brissett was definitely serviceable, but with that roster, they have a chance to be really good the next few years if they can plug the QB gap.

I heard somewhere that reich didn't particularly like coaching Wentz apparently he was more.stubborrn and uncoachable than he likes. I could be wrong but I'm sure I read that somewhere

Foxtrol

Podge_irl wrote: »

What are the Jags thinking with making Baalke the GM. His handling of an excellent 9ers squad - both his drafting and relations with the HC - were utterly appalling.

I'm struggling to think of a more toxic marriage than with him and Meyer. The leaks out of the Jags will be incredible