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The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V3

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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,953 ✭✭✭amacca


    That was more or less my thinking…albeit put much more eloquently etc



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,953 ✭✭✭amacca


    Nope...Im that most detestable type of sports fan....I enjoy the game but have no particular strong loyalty to any team....ill root for an underdog or favourite if I like the way they play most of the time...I find it hard to have undying loyalty to any team I have no real connection to...I probably should support either the rams or the chargers given I lived there and I did enjoy the rams under mcvay when goff was QB (particularly when they played in the coliseum) they played some very enjoyable high score games during that period, this season Ive enjoyed watching Detroit, the Dolphins some of the Eagles games etc ....I just dont seem to have that die hard supporter in me....Ill also tune in to watch a game with a particular QB or TE or wide receiver or defensive players either I think are going to have an outstanding game etc

    In soccer it translates to me being an outcast most of the time as people label me a bandwagoner....liking AC Milan in the 90s, Arsenal in the invincibles double season, the real madrid of fat ronaldo, guti, raul, roberto carlos, zidane, figo etc etc....just cant bring myself to truly support any club I have no real connection to but I can enjoy a team that plays an exciting brand of football..so I suppose most sports are an entertainment product for me without the added dimension of any real "brand" loyalty ..I can however have teams I dont want to see win....(eg: Man City in soccer at the moment...possibly the Chiefs even though I would have thoroughly enjoyed watching them destroy teams during the mahomes tyreek hill killer punch period they provided some entertainment but I never like any team getting too long at the top unless they are exceptionally entertaining) ...I can and do support Irish national teams Soccer, Rugby as I can find some justification for that even if it is a hard slog with irish mens national team currently!

    So basically in sports fan terms I'm without a shadow of a doubt and by far and away a mostly reprehensible human being!

    Anyway, definitely off topic at this stage.



  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 11,720 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    In what’s essentially a first for them, Netflix have acquired worldwide* rights to the NFL’s Christmas Day games for the next three years.

    https://www.nfl.com/news/netflix-will-be-the-home-to-live-nfl-games-this-christmas-day

    (* As usual there will be local FTA broadcasts in participating teams home markets).



  • Registered Users Posts: 38,483 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    I have Netflix and prime but I don't like this at all.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,146 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    More football that can be watched the better.

    If they didn't have move these games on the new standalone dates then these would just be buried on a Sunday schedule, with most fans not being able to watch, as they weren't in their home market, or fans having to dish out way more on Sunday Ticket.

    Ideally, they'd go to the networks but if they weren't willing/able to pony up then no issues with these going on streaming.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,454 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    Interesting to see if Sky Sports still have rights to these 2 Christmas Day games, as they do for the Thursday night Amazon Prime package.

    Also next season is the final year of the current NFL/Sky deal, which by all accounts is currently a freebie for Sky (with the quid quo pro being that they showcase/present the games as requested by the NFL).



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,454 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    Some crazy comments from Chiefs super kicker Harrison Butker.

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/article/2024/may/15/harrison-butker-commencement-speech

    Like obviously being anti-Biden is fine, and anti-abortion is a valid stance shared by many people. I disagree on both but can understand his viewpoint.

    But having a pop at gay people, equating IVF with abortion as being things which 'stem from the pervasiveness of disorder', and telling the women at the graduation ceremony that their true fulfilment will be as wives/mothers/homemakers rather than using their just-gained qualifications to make a career - I'm not sure you could even call most of that hardcore religious stuff - its almost Handmaids Tale rhetoric.



  • Registered Users Posts: 730 ✭✭✭I.am.Putins.raging.bile.duct


    Pittsburgh to host the 2026 NFL draft



  • Registered Users Posts: 168 ✭✭Risoc


    Are internet forums much of a thing for the game in the states at all?

    Cardinals fan here. I’ve subscribed to the local radio and podcast websites but can’t seem to find active forums at all be it Cardinals, NFC West or NFL in general.

    Maybe it’s all gone to social media instead?



  • Registered Users Posts: 730 ✭✭✭I.am.Putins.raging.bile.duct


    Here's one. Search for Arizona Cardinals message boards. There's a few more in the search results.

    https://www.arizonasportsfans.com/forum/



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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,882 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    It probably varies a lot between different teams, but a lot of the SB nation team sites have very active discussion forums attached to each article. The Bears one is very active (some good posters and some complete muppets).

    Revenge of the Birds is the Cardinals one, just looking at the post counts it seems a bit quieter than the NFC north ones.

    https://www.revengeofthebirds.com/



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,454 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    The Vikings 4th round pick Khyree Jackson was killed in a car-crash last night.

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/article/2024/jul/06/vikings-rookie-cornerback-khyree-jackson-killed-in-car-crash-at-age-0f-24

    It appears the car he was in was hit by another car that made a dodgy overtake.



  • Registered Users Posts: 38,483 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    That's awful.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,224 ✭✭✭el Fenomeno


    Having been off the air since the middle of May with no disclosure as to why by any of the hosts, I see it's confirmed today that the Around the NFL podcast has been cancelled.

    Dan and Marc no longer work for the NFL. Gregg will be launching a new podcast for NFL Media.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,060 ✭✭✭Jofspring


    Never found it a great podcast to be honest, doesn't feel like much of a loss. I assume listener numbers have been dwindling.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,196 ✭✭✭The_Honeybadger


    I havent listed to ATN in some time but it has been such a mainstay and I am surprised to hear it has been cancelled. I suppose the space has become so competitive now and it’s hard to keep listeners who are spoilt for choice.

    What other ones are people listening to? I used to love Football Outsiders but that was cancelled last season, I listen to the Athletic and the Irish NFL Pod mostly now. The Irish show is excellent in fairness to the lads that produce it



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,740 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa


    They seem to be tearing down the day to day NFL Network/Media stuff. Total Access was canned, Good Morning Football has disappeared for months and is moving to LA to cut costs. Lots of reporters and contributors were let go. All a poor look for an organisation that makes money hand over fist.



  • Registered Users Posts: 38,483 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    The TV sports networks in the US have wall to wall coverage nowadays with lots of big names as guests on their shows. Basically from early August right up until the draft it's on unless there is some live sports event they are covering. I'd imagine they have a lot of viewers or they wouldn't be on.

    Colin Cowherd has a massive following on his show the herd.



  • Registered Users Posts: 319 ✭✭collybyrne


    This was by far my favourite NFL podcast and one of my all time favourite podcasts full stop. I've listened avidly for 10 years and was genuinely upset when Chris Wesseling passed away, having followed his first cancer battle and subsequent recovery, marriage and the birth of his son Lincoln. When they went daily during the pandemic it was one of the things that helped get me through lockdown. They were funny, relatable and had a genuinely deep love and knowledge for football and the whole world of NFL in general.

    The news that Gregg Rosenthal has stayed on at the NFL ends any hopes for it continuing with the same group on another platform so this really is the end. Seems ridiculous to be this annoyed over a podcast but I genuinely am. Ill miss it alot.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,224 ✭✭✭el Fenomeno


    Yeah it's a shame. I don't think anyone tuned in for any tactical deep dives or anything of that sort - there are plenty of other sources out there if that's what you're into.

    For me, it was an easy way to keep up to date on what was happening around the league news-wise, and the comradery between the lads was good listening.

    Admittedly, since work from home has become a mainstay, my podcast listening hours have been dramatically reduced so I didn't get to tune in as much in recent years.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 40,867 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    I listened to every episode and went to the live show in London last year when I was home from Australia for a few weeks, so glad that event lined up with my trip. The lads have been part of my routine for over a decade and I'm gutted the show has ended. It was the most accessible and comprehensive round up podcast for the NFL as a whole for me.

    No word from Dan or Marc yet but I'm hoping they go out on their own, I'd happily pay for it through Patreon or something similar. Dan is a brilliant host and I would tune into anything he does. Can't say the same about what sounds like a replacement show of sorts with Gregg and others.



  • Registered Users Posts: 698 ✭✭✭al87987


    Gutted at the news. Listened to every pod.

    Dan had a great sense of humour which set the tone for the show and it didn't take itself too seriously but still informed.

    The replacement show sounds a little too Gregg heavy and he never struck me as a great host, definitely a better analyst.

    Hope the other two guys keep going, anybody any alternatives for NFL talk that doesn't get too technical?

    Heed the call.



  • Registered Users Posts: 693 ✭✭✭Zoton


    Barely missed an episode in over a decade and now it's just gone. A real shame. They had great chemistry in the group and the recap episode was a staple of my Monday mornings from Sept to Jan. Losing Wess was a big blow, but they persevered and managed to keep it going.

    Can't believe it's finished 🙁



  • Registered Users Posts: 39,997 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Awful awful decision by the NFL. As others have said I listened to it every episode. So while I listened to every episode, I didn't love it as much after Wess died because it wasn’t the same. He was a huge part of the magic and yeah it wasn’t the same. It’s the only NFL podcast that I used to listen to, and the lads were a huge part of growing the NFL in Ireland and the UK.



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,867 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    It looks like Dan and Marc have something cooking and I will be all aboard. Those two free of the NFL’s shackles could be something great.

    https://x.com/danhanzus/status/1810394949646782701?s=46



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,224 ✭✭✭el Fenomeno


    The rumblings are that things may not be so rosy between Dan/Marc and Gregg after this.

    Also, the first episode of Gregg's new podcast was released on YouTube yesterday. They had to turn off comments.



  • Registered Users Posts: 39,997 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    That’s a shame given how close they were from working together over the years.



  • Registered Users Posts: 870 ✭✭✭pedatron


    Bit late to the party here but what a loss this podcast will be for the international listener especially. I've listened for 7+ years and genuinely felt like I knew the lads and their circle of friends and rolling guests. Wess passing away really touched me and I was genuinely sad about a fella I'd never me but felt I knew. He even wrote back to me personally once on instagram when I messaged him support.

    The pod itself provided a nice balance of news, football knowledge and just a bit of craic. It was just at the right level for what I and so many others want. Not daily but frequent enough that you can keep up with them. Discussed all the teams, the games and news and kept it fairly light. So many people I know who follow the NFL in Ireland and UK listened to this. Always spoke of a great European listenership. Bizarre they cut something like this when they're clearly trying to expand the game over here. Loved all the silly segments they did like 'The Greybeards', 'GM App' or 'New Horizons Monday' for all the sacked management after the regular season ended.

    I'd also pay for content Dan and Marc release if they go down that route but would worry about their bottom line considering they had unbelievable access to NFL media stuff. Not everyone is willing to pay! Also, a huge pity Gregg won't be with them but the abuse he is getting is outrageous. Sounds like he had some medical issue in his family and chose security and family over sticking with the lads which is understandable.

    Be interesting to hear what actually went down whenever the lads do reappear and relations aren't damaged beyond repair!



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