The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V3

BonnieSituation

Itssoeasy wrote: »

It looks like Carson wentz won't play on Sunday night against the Rams in LA. It's funny that last season he was injured against the Rams in LA and now he won't play because of back soreness.

Hopefully 2017 late season Foles makes an appearance.

Itssoeasy

BonnieSituation wrote: »

Hopefully 2017 late season Foles makes an appearance.

Well the eagles might as well throw caution to the wind.

Hococop

Apparently Wentz has been complaining of back soreness since October, medical staff don't see anything major, apparently got it checked outside of the medial team and has a fractured vertebrae, first things first fire the medical staff how can you mess this up that badly,

Apparently it's not a major injury (which sounds crazy) apparently a few months recovery time and it's ok again hopefully he is 100% for us for next season

Oat23

Hococop wrote: »

Apparently Wentz has been complaining of back soreness since October, medical staff don't see anything major, apparently got it checked outside of the medial team and has a fractured vertebrae, first things first fire the medical staff how can you mess this up that badly,

Apparently it's not a major injury (which sounds crazy) apparently a few months recovery time and it's ok again hopefully he is 100% for us for next season

The tweet from a radio guy in Philly that I read made it sound like the Eagles staff knew about the fracture but didn't tell the player. Is that not accurate then? Tweet is a few hours old now.

Either way they should all be replaced.

https://twitter.com/jasonmyrt/status/1073255492171038720?s=19

Oat23

Best tweet of the season goes to the Chargers.

On TV this morning, Stephen A Smith made a fool of himself as you can see in the tweet below.

https://twitter.com/DP_NFL/status/1073237342369013761?s=19

And the Chargers response:

https://twitter.com/Chargers/status/1073284578666672128?s=19

Itssoeasy

Hococop wrote: »

Apparently Wentz has been complaining of back soreness since October, medical staff don't see anything major, apparently got it checked outside of the medial team and has a fractured vertebrae, first things first fire the medical staff how can you mess this up that badly,

Apparently it's not a major injury (which sounds crazy) apparently a few months recovery time and it's ok again hopefully he is 100% for us for next season

If the medical staff knew about it and left the starting QB of the franchise and future of the same franchise play for any length of time and didn't tell anyone including the player himself then Howie roseman should fire all of them before the owner gets to them. I actually hope it's not that as bad as it sounds hococop as that's bad on so many levels. So it was checked out by an outside medical staff and they picked it up ? Sweet Jesus and the orphans.

bruschi

Oat23 wrote: »

Best tweet of the season goes to the Chargers.

On TV this morning, Stephen A Smith made a fool of himself as you can see in the tweet below.

https://twitter.com/DP_NFL/status/1073237342369013761?s=19

And the Chargers response:

https://twitter.com/Chargers/status/1073284578666672128?s=19

Love Bruschis reaction.

brinty

bruschi wrote:

Love my reaction.

Fyp sir

Knex*

https://twitter.com/Chargers/status/1073436014012579841

Oat23

bruschi wrote: »

Love Bruschis reaction.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

Cam Newton to miss the rest of the season now they're out of playoff contention. Not surprising really when he's apparently been struggling through with a shoulder injury the past few weeks. The game against the Saints it was very evident, with him throwing a fair share of wobblers.

Pro-Bowl roster also released:

AFC PRO BOWL ROSTER BY POSITION

OFFENSE

Wide receiver: DeAndre Hopkins*, Houston Texans; Tyreek Hill*, Kansas City Chiefs; Antonio Brown, Pittsburgh Steelers; Keenan Allen, Los Angeles Chargers

Tackle: Taylor Lewan*, Tennessee Titans; Alejandro Villanueva*, Pittsburgh Steelers; Eric Fisher, Kansas City Chiefs

Guard: David DeCastro*, Pittsburgh Steelers; Marshal Yanda*, Baltimore Ravens; Quenton Nelson, Indianapolis Colts


Center: Maurkice Pouncey*, Pittsburgh Steelers; Mike Pouncey, Los Angeles Chargers

Tight end: Travis Kelce*, Kansas City Chiefs; Eric Ebron, Indianapolis Colts

Quarterback: Patrick Mahomes*, Kansas City Chiefs; Philip Rivers, Los Angeles Chargers; Tom Brady, New England Patriots

Running back: James Conner*, Pittsburgh Steelers; Melvin Gordon, Los Angeles Chargers; Phillip Lindsay, Denver Broncos

Fullback: Anthony Sherman*, Kansas City Chiefs

DEFENSE

Defensive end: J.J. Watt*, Houston Texans; Myles Garrett*, Cleveland Browns; Melvin Ingram, Los Angeles Chargers

Interior lineman: Geno Atkins*, Cincinnati Bengals; Jurrell Casey*, Tennessee Titans; Cameron Heyward, Pittsburgh Steelers

Outside linebacker: Von Miller*, Denver Broncos; Jadeveon Clowney*, Houston Texans; Dee Ford, Kansas City Chiefs


Inside linebacker: C.J. Mosley*, Baltimore Ravens; Benardrick McKinney, Houston Texans

Cornerback: Xavien Howard*, Miami Dolphins; Jalen Ramsey*, Jacksonville Jaguars; Stephon Gilmore, New England Patriots; Denzel Ward, Cleveland Browns

Free safety: Derwin James*, Los Angeles Chargers; Eric Weddle, Baltimore Ravens

Strong safety: Jamal Adams*, New York Jets

SPECIAL TEAMS

Kicker: Jason Myers*, New York Jets

Long snapper: To be named by coach.

Punter: Brett Kern*, Tennessee Titans

Return specialist: Andre Roberts*, New York Jets

Special teamer: Adrian Phillips*, Los Angeles Chargers

NFC PRO BOWL ROSTER BY POSITION

OFFENSE

Wide receiver: Julio Jones*, Atlanta Falcons; Michael Thomas*, New Orleans Saints; Adam Thielen, Minnesota Vikings; Davante Adams, Green Bay Packers

Tackle: Tyron Smith*, Dallas Cowboys; Terron Armstead*, New Orleans Saints; Trent Williams, Washington Redskins

Guard: Zack Martin*, Dallas Cowboys; Brandon Brooks*, Philadelphia Eagles; Trai Turner, Carolina Panthers


Center: Alex Mack*, Atlanta Falcons; Max Unger, New Orleans Saints

Tight end: Zach Ertz*, Philadelphia Eagles; George Kittle, San Francisco 49ers

Quarterback: Drew Brees*, New Orleans Saints; Jared Goff, Los Angeles Rams; Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay Packers

Running back: Todd Gurley*, Los Angeles Rams; Saquon Barkley, New York Giants; Ezekiel Elliott, Dallas Cowboys

Fullback: Kyle Juszczyk*, San Francisco 49ers

DEFENSE

Defensive end: Cameron Jordan*, New Orleans Saints; DeMarcus Lawrence*, Dallas Cowboys; Danielle Hunter, Minnesota Vikings

Interior lineman: Aaron Donald*, Los Angeles Rams; Fletcher Cox*, Philadelphia Eagles; Akiem Hicks, Chicago Bears


Outside linebacker: Khalil Mack*, Chicago Bears; Ryan Kerrigan*, Washington Redskins; Anthony Barr, Minnesota Vikings

Inside linebacker: Luke Kuechly*, Carolina Panthers; Bobby Wagner, Seattle Seahawks

Cornerback: Kyle Fuller*, Chicago Bears; Patrick Peterson*, Arizona Cardinals; Darius Slay, Detroit Lions; Byron Jones, Dallas Cowboys

Free safety: Eddie Jackson*, Chicago Bears; Harrison Smith, Minnesota Vikings

Strong safety: Landon Collins*, New York Giants

SPECIAL TEAMS

Kicker: Aldrick Rosas*, New York Giants

Long snapper: To be named by coach

Punter: Michael Dickson*, Seattle Seahawks

Return specialist: Tarik Cohen*, Chicago Bears

Special teamer: Cory Littleton*, Los Angeles Rams

* indicates starter.

Ridiculous it's so important for HOF yet fan-voted, but that's old news. Anyways, a few notable omissions, none more so than Chris Jones. Joke he wasn't picked but that's the pro-bowl for ya.
Also think Rodgers and Brady are both very lucky to get selected. Thought Luck in particular was hard done by, and also felt Wilson should've been the 3rd choice for the NFC.

OOnegative

Leighton Vander Esch a glaring omission on the NFC roster, thought TJ Watt was worth a pick on the AFC but i’m probably being bias saying that.

Itssoeasy

Ah the pro bowl rosters.The rosters that every player on a team in the playoffs will spend until January trying to not play in. I wonder how long it will take to get to the 20th alternate ?

adrian522

Wilson should be QB2 on the NFC behind Brees by any measure. Rodgers and Brady both there on reputation only.

jack presley

adrian522 wrote: »

Rodgers and Brady both there on reputation only.

Aren't most of the players?

Speaking from a Redskins fan's point of view, Trent Williams has been playing injured most of the year and as a result is having probably his worst season but he's made the team. No way that's based on this year's performances.

eagle eye

Melvin Gordon, when was the last time he played?

Deco99

Darius Leonard most glaring omission by a long shot. Melvin Gordon has been great but has missed 3 games which charter won all 3. Who picks this team?

Paully D

Why do people still even bother to both talk about and debate selections for the Pro Bowl? It’s nothing more than a popularity contest. The biggest waste of time in all of sport.

Billy86

A young or breakout player (especially if not a high first round type) making the Pro Bowl is about the only time it's really of much note in terms of merit.

boccy23

Paully D wrote: »

Why do people still even bother to both talk about and debate selections for the Pro Bowl? It’s nothing more than a popularity contest. The biggest waste of time in all of sport.

True but there are bonus based on it and despite what we think, it seems to affect HOF voting. Easier to make a case for an 8-time Pro Bowler.

Paully D

https://twitter.com/tompelissero/status/1075761886954749953?s=21

That went about as well as expected then. Shame as he’s such an exciting player to watch.

D9Male

Holy jaysus. The guy is a loose cannon clearly. I hope he is able to sort himself out.

Foxtrol

Was worth a gamble for the Patriots but at this stage it is clear why other teams didn't compete for him, especially those teams with WR needs that also had coaches with experience with him.

Realt Dearg Sec

He played pretty well for them all the same, for a very low pick. Pats can feel they got value on the deal, hopefully he can get the help he needs.

raze_them_all_

Paully D wrote: »

https://twitter.com/tompelissero/status/1075761886954749953?s=21

That went about as well as expected then. Shame as he’s such an exciting player to watch.

The cock end. The week of fantasy finals

Paully D

Paully D wrote: »

https://twitter.com/tompelissero/status/1075761886954749953?s=21

That went about as well as expected then. Shame as he’s such an exciting player to watch.

Is there any issue now that sees someone put their hands up and say "my fault" without tacking on "but mental health issues"...

Paully D

Ravens are going to extend Harbaugh. Surprised at that before the playoff picture emerges. It would make a lot more sense to make a decision in a couple of weeks’ time.

https://twitter.com/ravens/status/1076266629921755136?s=21

Ivefoundgod

Paully D wrote: »

Ravens are going to extend Harbaugh. Surprised at that before the playoff picture emerges. It would make a lot more sense to make a decision in a couple of weeks’ time.

https://twitter.com/ravens/status/1076266629921755136?s=21

Delighted we're keeping him. Didn't understand the talk of him losing his job earlier in the year, he's clearly one of the better coaches in the NFL and unless we were going to replace him with Lincoln Riley or someone similar we'd have been worse off. Like what he's doing with Lamar and our defense is consistently excellent.

Having said that we do need to start drafting better. We've had a number of bad picks over the last few years (Perriman the obvious example) while hitting on the mid round picks less often than before.

Itssoeasy

I didn't want to start a new thread but lads merry Christmas and New Year to all on this forum that covers the NFL in such a good way.

Itssoeasy

I didn't want to start a new thread but lads merry Christmas and New Year to all on this forum that covers the NFL in such a good way.

eagle eye

Yes, Happy Christmas to all. It's a great forum because of all the excellent posters we have.

D9Male

Agreed, I like the forum, and hope you all have a good break.

BonnieSituation

Happy Christmas all!

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99 TD returns count as weird and wacky? Right?

Please god let this be the end of VJ's reign of terror?

Paully D

Said a few weeks ago that the only thing that could make this season worse for the Raiders is a couple of pointless wins to drop their draft positon.

That win last night takes them from #2 and a chance of #1 in the last week, down to #4.

Ivefoundgod

Paully D wrote: »

Said a few weeks ago that the only thing that could make this season worse for the Raiders is a couple of pointless wins to drop their draft positon.

That win last night takes them from #2 and a chance of #1 in the last week, down to #4.

With all the picks they've stockpiled you'd think they'll still be able to select a few decent players. Although Grudens scouting ability seems dubious these days.

thomond2006

Arizona have the first pick wrapped up by the looks of it. They go to Seattle in week 17, there's no chance of a win there imo.

Realt Dearg Sec

Itssoeasy wrote: »

I didn't want to start a new thread but lads merry Christmas and New Year to all on this forum that covers the NFL in such a good way.

Wanted to echo this, happy Christmas lads, it's a great community to be a part of, and I always learn something on here, or at the very least always enjoy the arguments. I look forward to many more during the playoffs.

Itssoeasy

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

Wanted to echo this, happy Christmas lads, it's a great community to be a part of, and I always learn something on here, or at the very least always enjoy the arguments. I look forward to many more during the playoffs.

Subtle reminder that the bears are in the playoffs. And if things go right for the eagles next weekend then the eagles might be playing the bears.

Realt Dearg Sec

I hope so. Bad memories of the last time we had to play a division rival in a playoff means I hope we put the Vikings away this weekend. However if the Rams already have the two seed put away during the early slate I'd expect to see lots of snaps for Chase Daniel.

adrian522

Rams are playing late now so both games will be on at the same time.

thomond2006

https://twitter.com/oregonfootball/status/1077988744991453184?s=19

Justin Herbert not declaring this year.

eagle eye

thomond2006 wrote:

Justin Herbert not declaring this year.

He is massively overrated imo. I fell into the trap early last year but then got yo see him under pressure a couple of times and he didn't look good or make good decisions.

Foxtrol

thomond2006 wrote: »

Justin Herbert not declaring this year.

Probably the best for if he is going to make it long term but it will likely cost him money in his rookie deal, as I don't think he'll go as high next year with the talent due to come out.

Presume Haskins will have to declare now and it'll be interesting to see if there is a bigger bidding war between the QB needy teams to move up for him.

eagle eye

If Haskins comes out I think it'll create a bit of trading up in the draft. The first five teams at the present moment don't need a QB. You have the Bucs at 6, the Giants at 8, Jags at 9, Broncos at 12, Dolphins at 15 and the Redskins at 16 who will be the main players in the QB arena.



You'd think one of them has to jump into the top five and the higher the better to get Haskins. There are three premium players at the very top of the draft in Bosa, Oliver and Williams. The team that is in the best shape at the top of the draft in those positions is the Cardinals who have the first pick as things stand.

They need offensive line help badly and there is nobody worth taking at the top of the draft for that position. Well there is but you'd likely get him lower down when you look at the teams behind you. The 49ers will definitely go for Bosa, the Jets need a DT badly and the Raiders will surely be looking to replace Khalil Mack.

I see the Bucs and Giants getting into a battle for the no.1 pick as it suits the Cards to move to either spot. Besides QB the Bucs are all about defense in this draft imo.

I expect one of these two teams to end up with the no.1 pick and then the Cards take Jonah Wiliams at no. 5 or 6.

letowski

Reports coming out the Jags are voiding Leonard Fournette's contract. Pretty huge news considering he was that key piece they wanted to be a physical hard running offense.

Jolly Red Giant

Rumours around the league that multiple teams are looking to trade for John Harbuagh. Rumours started with the Broncos, then the Dolphins and now the Bucs.

Baltimore are reputed to be asking for a minimum of two first round picks plus other picks for Harbaugh.

D9Male

Fournette was a waste of a pick.

mikemac2

Why do teams sack their head coach with an hour of the week 17 game ending? Sure if it’s a road game you may as well tell the guy to sort out his own flight

When the head coach is fired that means most of his assistants will go too.

I just think it can all wait for Black Monday after everyone is back in the facility. Everyone knows it coming and it doesn’t need to be done right after a game

billr67

Can I jump in on that too, speculation instantly also starts around coordinators who are currently contracted to play off bound teams. Look at last season with the Patriots and Eagles both back rooms were filleted before the final had even taken place. Can't make preparation very easy.

Itssoeasy

Wait what's this trade for John harbaugh reports about ? Didn't the Ravens put out a statement saying he'd be back next year ?