Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Hi all! We have been experiencing an issue on site where threads have been missing the latest postings. The platform host Vanilla are working on this issue. A workaround that has been used by some is to navigate back from 1 to 10+ pages to re-sync the thread and this will then show the latest posts. Thanks, Mike.
Hi there,
There is an issue with role permissions that is being worked on at the moment.
If you are having trouble with access or permissions on regional forums please post here to get access: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058365403/you-do-not-have-permission-for-that#latest
There is an issue with role permissions that is being worked on at the moment.
If you are having trouble with access or permissions on regional forums please post here to get access: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058365403/you-do-not-have-permission-for-that#latest
US Presidential Election 2020
Comments
-
-
-
-
Jaime Harrison got some national airtime
https://www.mediaite.com/election-2020/lindsey-graham-opponent-jaime-harrison-mocks-flip-flop-from-trump-critic-to-cheerleader-like-invasion-of-the-body-snatchers/
Lindsey Graham’s Democratic Senate opponent, Jaime Harrison, slammed the South Carolina Republican for his 180-degree conversion from Trump critic to cheerleader, likening the flip-flop to “a live version of Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
During an appearance on CNN Tonight with Don Lemon, Harrison, a former chair of the South Carolina Democratic Party, decried Graham for his failure to do a single town hall in three years while taking every opportunity to golf or dine with President Donald Trump. In an internal poll released by Harrison earlier this week, he was down by only two points — within the margin of error — to Graham, 41% to 43%.
“In 2016, Lindsey Graham was a vocal critic of then candidate Trump,” Lemon noted. “He famously tweeted: ‘If we nominate Trump, we will get destroyed and we will deserve it.’ Now Graham has become one of the president’s most loyal backers in Congress. How do you explain this transition?”
“Listen, it’s almost like watching a live version of the Invasion of the Body Snatchers,” Harrison snarked.
“He is just — the flip-flopping is amazing. I’ve never seen it in all of the years that I’ve been studying politics,” Harrison added. “So to see someone go from having a backbone to not having one at all. And that’s what we see in Lindsey Graham. And that’s why he is vulnerable in this election. Because there are a lot of people in the state who are just like me, who respected Lindsey Graham, thought he stood up for the state, but this guy has been a missing in action senator. He hasn’t had a town hall in this state in over three years. He does more fighting against the people of South Carolina than he does helping us.”
“He has just said over his dead body will he allow an extension of the federal unemployment insurance benefit,” Harrison pointed out, alluding to a South Carolina business forum in May where Graham boasted he would block any attempt to extend the Covid relief unemployment bonus. “That’s $600 a week for folks who otherwise would only get less than $320 a week. We need that money into our economy. But we got a senator who cares more about his tee times with the president or having some fancy dinner over at the Trump Hotel rather than going to Washington, D.C. and working for the people of South Carolina. So we’re going to beat him because he hasn’t been here. And I’m talking about the issues that people really are concerned about.”
Watch the video above, via CNN.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/senate/south-carolina/?types=All+polls
FiveThirtyEight still has Graham up a few points but for sure this is, for the moment, one of the tightest contests South Carolina has seen in at least the 12+ years I've lived here. Graham I think would be an easy opponent to unseat depending on resources divested to the race. Media attention like this certainly helps, as do these ads against him, not just from Lincoln Project but RVAT also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5Xpwyd4aMM (embedded on thread before, a cut of 2016 Graham vilifying Trump and offering glowing praise for Biden as a human being)
One of the first times I've actually seen Harrison speak, and I've been aware of his campaign, so its fair to say this exposure really helped him, as incredibly brief as even this snippet of his airtime was. Graham of course has the backing of the Tucker Carlsons and Sean Hannities though, but he also hasn't had a real opponent in recent memory.
edit: here's a longer interview he gave to a lower traffic show earlier this month. He definitely sounds 'new south' just as he illustrates his platform to be (which could be a dig at Graham's 'old south' accent and sensibilities). He actually makes very resonating points against Graham spending the last decade or more of his career primarily as a national-platform pawn/rook, where Harrison actually gets back to getting into the grist of issues that directly face South Carolinians, at our level, not the national level.
The only thing Graham has over him on a 1v1 level is military service - though Graham's service has been as a 'pogue.'0 -
-
-
-
-
-
Advertisement
-
-
-
So I figured out why Jaime Harrison was on CNN yesterday, from all that....
Lindsey Graham's campaign used a darkening filter on his opponents face in a facebook photo:
(By the way, fewer people give any ****s to who Kathy Griffith supports as the people who are concerned the Grand Wizard of the KKK endorses Trump, so...)
https://twitter.com/Rschooley/status/1286767907880333313?s=20
“Shame on Jaime Harrison for manufacturing a fake controversy to inject race into this campaign at a time of great turbulence in our country. It’s sad that our opponent has made up fake accusations about a graphic – one intended to highlight Jaime Harrison’s support from Kathy Griffin, a liberal actress who once posed with a fake severed head of Donald Trump," stated T.W. Arrighi, communications director for Team Graham, Inc. "The artistic effect used, the same one the Harrison campaign used multiple times this month in their own graphics and that our campaign used on Senator Graham just two days earlier, is a non-story. The only person who wants to shift focus from policies important to South Carolinians – like creating jobs and bringing our medical supply chain back from China – is Jaime Harrison who wants to change the subject and hide his radically liberal positions from the voters.”
Sen. Tim Scott (R-SC) added to Graham's sentiments.
“With all of the real problems our country is grappling with about race, now is not the time to score cheap political points," he said.
https://abcnews4.com/news/lowcountry-and-state-politics/graham-campaign-responds-to-accusations-of-darkening-opponents-skin-tone-in-ad
Typical red-meat for the base stuff that's going to backfire on Graham and give his opponent more oxygen - QED, already has.
The original photo of Harrison is from a brief interview-piece published by the NYT last year: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/29/us/politics/jaime-harrison-lindsey-graham.html
As for "creating jobs" - Lindsey Graham has spent a lot of time golfing with POTUS and shares his mess. The PPE from China stuff is electioneering that will never go anywhere in the Senate, nor does it need to. Doesn't seem like a federal issue, he just wants to gin up voters on Wuhan pandemonium.0 -
-
-
two new states added to the Union, Washington DC and Puerto Rico
Puerto Rico's not entirely on board with that. Not sure they'd be entirely happy with Obama telling them what they should be doing. Remember, they don't have D and R parties there, they have State and No-State. The balance is about equal between them. (Currently Statehood has a good majority in the legislature, a reversal of the previous election. They swing wildly. The last (legitimate) referendum in 2012 was almost precisely split between statehood and remain as is.)
The DC idea is just as blatant senate-grabbing as the Republican opposition to it. Well, almost, the Republican position has the benefit of precedent. The lack of representation has been an issue for more than a few decades, the original solution was simply retrocession back to the State from whence it came in the first place (Maryland). This is exactly what happened to the DC residents on the Virginia side of the Potomac, when that land was retroceded to Virginia in the 19th Century. They now have full representation in Congress.
Interestingly, Maryland is not entirely averse to the idea. It would dramatically increase its population and thus its representation in the House of Congress as well as its Electoral College weight. However, they have a concern about inheriting the various obligations such as pensions of DC city employees. And, of course, the conservative parts of MD (they do exist, and they're not small compared to the State) are definitely averse to the idea.Splitting California in to 3 would also give 4 more Democrat senators and has been floated a few times however I've never seen polling on whether the actual residents want it
We (at the time, that included me) did not. It comes up often enough, and, indeed, if you go up around Redding/Ft Bragg and further North, you will see a lot of flags flying for "The State of Jefferson", which is a very long-standing push for Northern California and Southern Oregon to make a new State. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_(proposed_Pacific_state)
Five counties (with an area about 2/3 the size of Rep of Ireland, but a population today about the same as Cork, so you can imagine what it was back then) went as far as to actually declare independence and create a new (obviously unrecognised) State. However, that was mid November 1941, and within a few weeks everyone had more important things to worry about.
That's probably the movement which has created the most traction, and indeed there's been something of a rebirth the last couple of years, but the rest of the State isn't really interested. The last time a serious proposal was put forward for referendum was 2016, split into 6, it failed to garner enough signatures to make the ballot. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Californias
Unofficial polling on the concept of splitting CA up in 2018 (There was another attempt to put it onto the proposition in 2018, except splitting into 3) showed about 75% against. No major California politician supports the split from either party.
Accepting that it's not happening, the latest movement now is "Greater Idaho", with various counties in SoOregon and NorCal wanting to be part of Idaho instead, several have already voted for this. Apparently the rules for changing State borders are easier than for admitting new States. I don't know what Idaho's position on the matter is, but the Governor of West Virginia, has said he is open to counties in western Virginia swapping States, their movement is for similar reasons.
It is not a guarantee, by the way, that all 6 Senators would be Democrat, depending on how it splits. Even the Cal 3 (2018) proposal would have had SoCal something of a swing State.0 -
Advertisement
-
-
Manic Moran wrote: »Puerto Rico's not entirely on board with that. Not sure they'd be entirely happy with Obama telling them what they should be doing. Remember, they don't have D and R parties there, they have State and No-State. The balance is about equal between them. (Currently Statehood has a good majority in the legislature, a reversal of the previous election. They swing wildly. The last (legitimate) referendum in 2012 was almost precisely split between statehood and remain as is.)
The DC idea is just as blatant senate-grabbing as the Republican opposition to it. Well, almost, the Republican position has the benefit of precedent. The lack of representation has been an issue for more than a few decades, the original solution was simply retrocession back to the State from whence it came in the first place (Maryland). This is exactly what happened to the DC residents on the Virginia side of the Potomac, when that land was retroceded to Virginia in the 19th Century. They now have full representation in Congress.
Interestingly, Maryland is not entirely averse to the idea. It would dramatically increase its population and thus its representation in the House of Congress as well as its Electoral College weight. However, they have a concern about inheriting the various obligations such as pensions of DC city employees. And, of course, the conservative parts of MD (they do exist, and they're not small compared to the State) are definitely averse to the idea.
We (at the time, that included me) did not. It comes up often enough, and, indeed, if you go up around Redding/Ft Bragg and further North, you will see a lot of flags flying for "The State of Jefferson", which is a very long-standing push for Northern California and Southern Oregon to make a new State. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_(proposed_Pacific_state)
Five counties (with an area about 2/3 the size of Rep of Ireland, but a population today about the same as Cork, so you can imagine what it was back then) went as far as to actually declare independence and create a new (obviously unrecognised) State. However, that was mid November 1941, and within a few weeks everyone had more important things to worry about.
That's probably the movement which has created the most traction, and indeed there's been something of a rebirth the last couple of years, but the rest of the State isn't really interested. The last time a serious proposal was put forward for referendum was 2016, split into 6, it failed to garner enough signatures to make the ballot. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Californias
Unofficial polling on the concept of splitting CA up in 2018 (There was another attempt to put it onto the proposition in 2018, except splitting into 3) showed about 75% against. No major California politician supports the split from either party.
Accepting that it's not happening, the latest movement now is "Greater Idaho", with various counties in SoOregon and NorCal wanting to be part of Idaho instead, several have already voted for this. Apparently the rules for changing State borders are easier than for admitting new States. I don't know what Idaho's position on the matter is, but the Governor of West Virginia, has said he is open to counties in western Virginia swapping States, their movement is for similar reasons.
It is not a guarantee, by the way, that all 6 Senators would be Democrat, depending on how it splits. Even the Cal 3 (2018) proposal would have had SoCal something of a swing State.
I agree with you about California, it's not exactly the Democratic stronghold people like to pain it as. There are plenty of californian GOP governors and congressmen.
But why does anyone want to join Idaho??they/them/theirs
And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek
0 -
-
-
-
Advertisement
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
Advertisement
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
Advertisement
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
Advertisement
-
-
-
-
-
-
Advertisement
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnoCe9bmu9o
This discussion has been closed.
Advertisement