US Presidential Election 2020

briany

everlast75 wrote: »

He isn't even ringing in Fox to mouth off.

Trump's been making noises that he's over the covid. End of the day, if Trump's in a fit state to mouth off to Fox News he will absolutely do so, and I can't really think of any other explanation for not doing so other than he is indeed not in a fit state.

Water John

On present figures, even if you apply what happened to the figures Biden will still have 319 EC votes.
Going on the present figures he is 100 EC votes ahead. for the Dems it's about, closing the deal.

Realt Dearg Sec

Water John wrote: »

I agree that the Dems need to go all out, but I don't like the 'stomping on the neck' analogy used by some, for obvious reasons. No personal slight intended.

Fair point.

Would echo the poster above questioning the Quinnipiac poll since those are always skewed Dem, but given that Rasmussen is showing what it is, it's overall very promising. If you ever want to give yourself a good laugh, read the Rasmussen Twitter feed, which is basically unashamed Trump cheerleading and lib-baiting nonsense, and remind yourself that people actually include their findings in polling data. And even they couldn't spin it for him right now.

Regarding the money question, word now is that Biden has expanded ad buys in Texas, and in Ohio, while Trump has gone completely dark in Ohio, Iowa, Texas and New Hampshire for the last two weeks. Strong indicator of where the money is right now.

All that being said, October is LONG. I have no doubt there are twists to this one yet, because there always are. I'm just hoping Trump has left whatever October surprise he has in mind too late to be able to recover from his own incompetence.

briany

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

All that being said, October is LONG. I have no doubt there are twists to this one yet, because there always are. I'm just hoping Trump has left whatever October surprise he has in mind too late to be able to recover from his own incompetence.

If he's got a surprise up his sleeve, it looks like it's going to have to be quite dramatic indeed!

Quin_Dub

Good Lord , talk about carrying water for Trump

They are spinning the cancelling of ad buys in Ohio and Iowa as being "because we don't need them because we're winning

President Trump has canceled upcoming television ad buys in Ohio and Iowa in a move his campaign touted as a sign of the strength of their position in the key states ahead of Election Day.

The Trump campaign canceled ad buys worth $2.5 million in Ohio and $820,000 in Iowa for the upcoming week, according to data from ad-tracking firm Kantar Media’s Campaign Media Analysis Group. The president has pulled back on ad spending in Ohio in recent months after outspending the campaign of Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden by a significant margin from May to September.

Both RCP and 538 have Biden slightly ahead in both those States right now, but inside the MOE

So yeah , "Cancelling the advertising because we're winning" sounds absolutely legit.

dark crystal

Reassuring words from FBI Director Chris Wray concerning election security - interesting how much he mentions safeguarding the election from foreign influences:

https://twitter.com/FBI/status/1313494766387105794

I'm really hoping the election is not going to be anywhere near as chaotic and underhanded as some commentators are suggesting.

I'm also hoping the results are so clear cut, they won't need to be dragged out and contested for weeks or months afterwards.

Hope is always a good thing...

VinLieger

Igotadose wrote: »

"Ease your passing." Sorry no one would say that in the US. Gimli did dramatically sat that to an orc in The Two Towers if I remember correctly.

In no way is that a lord of the rings reference, you might as well accuse them of quoting Clear and Present Danger for using the phrase "Lifelong Friends".

Using even an uncommon phrase that might also appear coincidentally in another piece of media doesnt mean your directly quoting it.

everlast75

*another* unprecedented endorsement.

https://twitter.com/brianstelter/status/1313948445091258369?s=19

At what point do trump supporters realise that maybe, just maybe, everyone else is right?

briany

everlast75 wrote: »

At what point do trump supporters realise that maybe, just maybe, everyone else is right?

The more that people speak out against Trump, the more Trump supporters become absolutely convinced that he must have the deep state really rattled.

duploelabs

everlast75 wrote: »

*another* unprecedented endorsement.

https://twitter.com/brianstelter/status/1313948445091258369?s=19

At what point do trump supporters realise that maybe, just maybe, everyone else is right?

Personally I wouldn't respect the New England journal of medicine as they're the source to the myth that msg is bad for you

Tell me how

A former director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and public health titan who led the eradication of smallpox asked the embattled, current CDC leader to expose the failed U.S. response to the coronavirus, calling on him to orchestrate his own firing to protest White House interference.


USA Today

Bold added by me here but a fairly unambiguous statement no matter your feelings.

“You could upfront, acknowledge the tragedy of responding poorly, apologize for what has happened and your role in acquiescing,” Foege wrote to Redfield. He said simply resigning without coming clean would be insufficient. “Don’t shy away from the fact this has been an unacceptable toll on our country. It is a slaughter and not just a political dispute.”

BonnieSituation

What time is the debate on?

2am Irish time?

Realt Dearg Sec

BonnieSituation wrote: »

What time is the debate on?

2am Irish time?

Yeah. Should be perfect if you're suffering from insomnia.

paul71

duploelabs wrote: »

Personally I wouldn't respect the New England journal of medicine as they're the source to the myth that msg is bad for you

What?

BonnieSituation

He's already opened with a a lie. Calm thoughtful lies are easier to believe than that boorish ranting 2 weeks ago.

Rjd2

BonnieSituation wrote: »

He's already opened with a a lie. Calm thoughtful lies are easier to believe than that boorish ranting 2 weeks ago.

He's always been good at this sort of thing, probably beat Tim Kaine 4 years ago, but its a bloody big ask to defend Trump on covid.

Arghus

I'll say this for him, Mike Pence is a good liar.

The Floyd p

Hard for Pence to push a line of Liberty for the American people, when a lack of guidance from the government has been a massive issue regarding Covid cases. Sometimes you need to push for legal paternalism.

Tell me how

Some neck to ask her to stop playing politics with peoples' lives.

He shouldn't get his time now to talk about being VP to the oldest President.

Character Building

This moderator is hopeless

Scot_in_Dublin

Wait, is he just claiming that the Swine Flu was worse than this?

BonnieSituation

Character Building wrote: »

This moderator is hopeless

Letting Pence away with not answering that is unforgivable.

Tell me how

Character Building wrote: »

This moderator is hopeless

think she is doing fine so far.

The Floyd p

Scot_in_Dublin wrote: »

Wait, is he just claiming that the Swine Flu was worse than this?

He claimed that if H1N1 was as lethal as Covid-19 then they'd be looking at 2M dead. Not an apples to apples comparison of course.

Character Building

BonnieSituation wrote: »

Letting Pence away with not answering that is unforgivable.

Absolutely no follow up from her when he evades the questions. Just reading from a card. Awful stuff.

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A nervous KH is getting schooled by the Iceman.

The Floyd p

Character Building wrote: »

Absolutely no follow up from her when he evades the questions. Just reading from a card. Awful stuff.

Neither candidate answered the previous question about the age of the candidates. Just glossed over haha

BonnieSituation

"The transperancy we've shown thus far will continue"

He's right. No doubt about it Mike.

Rjd2

Harris trying to hard while Pence overdoing it with the fake sincerity.

Not good at all.

Scot_in_Dublin

The Floyd p wrote: »

He claimed that if H1N1 was as lethal as Covid-19 then they'd be looking at 2M dead. Not an apples to apples comparison of course.

And then on the PPE side. Was there not a task force left in place for this when President Trump came into power that they dismantled, that would have helped head off some of this stuff in the US

y0ssar1an22

did kamala not call biden a racist?

BonnieSituation

The Floyd p wrote: »

Neither candidate answered the previous question about the age of the candidates. Just glossed over haha

Tbf, at least she allowed them both away with it.

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Pence is a slick mofo

Character Building

Lol is Pence trolling now talking about donnies taxes.

The Floyd p

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

did kamala not call biden a racist?

This is what I've found.

http://imgur.com/gallery/iIqZMTv

BonnieSituation

Rjd2 wrote: »

Harris trying to hard while Pence overdoing it with the fake sincerity.

Not good at all.

We're only 15min in.

I expect Harris to grow into it.

Pence can't go elsewhere here. He's doing his best to defend his record without actually saying much to defend it that is in any way new.

Rjd2

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

did kamala not call biden a racist?

Kind of, but she admitted it was for politics which made it worse.

Careerist politician to say the least.

And before someone points out the flaws in Mike, YES I KNOW.

Tell me how

Pence came with a script. He's not even hearing the questions, he's just reciting it.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Well, this is a good deal less annoying to watch anyway. Actual adults are in the room.

BonnieSituation

Rjd2 wrote: »

Kind of, but she admitted it was for politics which made it worse.

Careerist politician to say the least.

I guess everyone should stay home so.

y0ssar1an22

Tell me how wrote: »

Pence came with a script. He's not even hearing the questions, he's just reciting it.

facts are better than feelings surely.

Tell me how

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

facts are better than feelings surely.

Not so sure how many facts are within it.

BonnieSituation

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

facts are better than feelings surely.

Calmly expressed lies sound like facts to the uninformed unfortunately. Glad to see you being taken in by them.

Rjd2

BonnieSituation wrote: »

I guess everyone should stay home so.

Just found it incredibly fake how she tried to exploit that viral moment and then said it was for show. I mean yeah that's politics, but its pretty ****ty nonetheless.

BonnieSituation

Rjd2 wrote: »

Just found it incredibly fake how she tried to exploit that viral moment and then said it was for show. I mean yeah that's politics, but its pretty ****ty nonetheless.

It's time to let it go. She's impure. Just like Joe.

The Floyd p

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

facts are better than feelings surely.

Is that you Ben?

Rjd2

BonnieSituation wrote: »

It's time to let it go. She's impure. Just like Joe.

Of course, compared to Mike she is great, but she is not immune from criticism.

Anyway back to to the debate.:)

simongurnick

First time in have seen Kamala in action. She is well able to motor.
Still convinced Pence is some type of robot.

AllForIt

Character Building wrote: »

Absolutely no follow up from her when he evades the questions. Just reading from a card. Awful stuff.

It is not the role of the moderator to press anyone on anything. The mod asks the questions, tells them when to shut up and moves on to the next question. It's not an interview.

BonnieSituation

"...going backward instead of forward..."

I mean, that's going to meme a bit too easily. Bad move.

"...and always twirling, twirling towards freedom..."