US Presidential Election 2020

BonnieSituation

Rjd2 wrote: »

Of course, compared to Mike she is great, but she is not immune from criticism.

Anyway back to to the debate.:)

True. I'm just in the school of being critical AFTER Trump is gone.

Character Building

AllForIt wrote: »

It is not the role of the moderator to press anyone on anything. The mod asks the questions, tells them when to shut up and moves on to the next question. It's not an interview.

She's allowing them to completely stray from the question that is asked. She could be more proactive in keeping them on topic.

y0ssar1an22

The Floyd p wrote: »

Is that you Ben?

i heard that from him.

regardless, it seems a no brainer through?

The Floyd p

Vice President Pence, do you believe that climate change is an existential threat?


Pence: They're gonna remove the Trump tax cuts! AOC etc.


His inability to answer the question is Trump esque.

y0ssar1an22

watch the no answer

The Floyd p

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

i heard that from him.

regardless, it seems a no brainer through?

He doesn't use the logic he subscribes to. Hard to take him at his word.

AllForIt

Character Building wrote: »

She's allowing them to completely stray from the question that is asked. She could be more proactive in keeping them on topic.

No. They can answer the questions any way they want. They can answer the question with what they had for lunch. It's the opponents job to come back on it, not the moderators.

y0ssar1an22

did hillary not sell all that ****?

Scot_in_Dublin

Not allowing their people into China to check it. Was that not the job of the task force that was set up and they had before they disbanded it and brought the team back from China?

AllForIt

Kamala Harris's turn to recite her memorised script.

markodaly

Harris not really doing the business imo.
She will be the shoe in for the 2024 Democratic nomination and not really up for it by this showing.

BonnieSituation

markodaly wrote: »

Harris not really doing the business imo.
She will be the shoe in for the 2024 Democratic nomination and not really up for it by this showing.

What should she do for you to do the business?

BonnieSituation

Pence is the pits

markodaly

Pence is slick, very slick...

The Floyd p

BonnieSituation wrote: »

What should she do for you to do the business?

It's not politically savvy at the moment, but her defence of fracking by saying that Biden won't get rid of it will look bad as tastes change over the next 4 years.

y0ssar1an22

markodaly wrote: »

Pence is slick, very slick...

but "joe"

whos joe?

AllForIt

markodaly wrote: »

Harris not really doing the business imo.
She will be the shoe in for the 2024 Democratic nomination and not really up for it by this showing.

First I seen of her. I agree. She's a bit too causal and slow in her responses, given this is a VP debate. She needs to be a bit more passionate rather than coming across like she's on a chat show.

The Floyd p

Who's the first candidate to fall afoul of the rules? Oh it's Pence, what a surprise?!

BonnieSituation

The Floyd p wrote: »

It's not politically savvy at the moment, but her defence of fracking by saying that Biden won't get rid of it will look bad as tastes change over the next 4 years.

As it may be, but be realistic, fracking is not the hill to die on is it, when you're trying to win OH and PA?

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I was directly asking Mark that question though, I'm sure he'll tell us how exactly Harris is doing so badly.

Rjd2

Perfect example of why Trump comes along, 2 very polished politicians not answering tough questions and swerving non stop. Normal people hate this.

Tell me how

The Floyd p wrote: »

Who's the first candidate to fall afoul of the rules? Oh it's Pence, what a surprise?!

Pence is taking the end of his 2 minutes as a 15 second countdown to continue talking.

BonnieSituation

Rjd2 wrote: »

Perfect example of why Trump comes along, 2 very polished politicians not answering tough questions and swerving.

Give over.

Polished is bad now?

Rjd2

Rjd2 wrote: »

Perfect example of why Trump comes along, 2 very polished politicians not answering tough questions and swerving non stop. Normal people hate this.

Bang on.

markodaly

BonnieSituation wrote: »

As it may be, but be realistic, fracking is not the hill to die on is it, when you're trying to win OH and PA?

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I was directly asking Mark that question though, I'm sure he'll tell us how exactly Harris is doing so badly.

She comes across as a bit fake and aloof. Too much talk about Trump and "Joe" but very little policy discussion.
Pence is there to defend Trump and his record, that is his job and is doing a slick job at it even though I disagree with him on many many issues.

Harris is there to tell voters why they deserve a chance.
She had to do better than just repeating, "Trump is bad, m'kay!"

Rjd2

BonnieSituation wrote: »

Give over.

Polished is bad now?

Pence dodging the abortion question and Harris dodging packing the supreme court question way to easily.

We need a better moderator than this.

BonnieSituation

markodaly wrote: »

She comes across as a bit fake and aloof. Too much talk about Trump and "Joe" but very little policy discussion.
Pence is there to defend Trump and his record, that is his job and is doing a slick job at it even though I disagree with him on many many issues.

Harris is there to tell voters why they deserve a chance.
She had to do better than just repeating, "Trump is bad, m'kay!"

Very little you can do with that if that's what you are seeing in front of you.

The Floyd p

BonnieSituation wrote: »

As it may be, but be realistic, fracking is not the hill to die on is it, when you're trying to win OH and PA?

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I was directly asking Mark that question though, I'm sure he'll tell us how exactly Harris is doing so badly.

It's all love ❤️

simongurnick

Does pence have a fly on his head?

BonnieSituation

BonnieSituation wrote: »

Give over.

Polished is bad now?

Yes.

Royal Irish

I'd vote for the fly on Pences head.

BonnieSituation

Rjd2 wrote: »

Pence dodging the abortion question and Harris dodging packing the supreme court question.

Neither at all pushed by the moderator on it whatsoever. Not good enough whatsoever.

The packing the supreme court question came from Pence.

The abortion question was roundly ignored alright. Like almost all questions all night from Pence.

BonnieSituation

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Yes.

So you'd prefer a ranting incoherent lunatic?

BonnieSituation

Royal Irish wrote: »

I'd vote for the fly on Pences head.

I guess they know bulls**t when they see it.

BonnieSituation

BonnieSituation wrote: »

So you'd prefer a ranting incoherent lunatic?

I'd rather good, honest, from the heart, policy discussion.

dublinman1990

I noticed the fly on Pence's head as well. There is now a woman making noises in the background.

simongurnick

dublinman1990 wrote: »

I noticed the fly on Pence's head as well. There is now a woman making noises in the background.

At your house? Or the debate?

dublinman1990

simongurnick wrote: »

At your house? Or the debate?

At the debate. She is apparently sneezing.

The Floyd p

Harris didn't answer the question, but why not have the courts packed by the Dems? The Republicans are ruthless in their pursuit of power. Why not play by their rules? The democratic party is getting nowhere by nominating soft candidates who won't enact real change. Republicans don't need to worry about Biden presidency.

BonnieSituation

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I'd rather good, honest, from the heart, policy discussion.

Oh right, like that which we get from Trump?

JP Liz V1

Pink eye Pence

BonnieSituation

BonnieSituation wrote: »

Oh right, like that which we get from Trump?

Like you get from Sanders.

BonnieSituation

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Like you get from Sanders.

Right then, he best get himself nominated sometime.

That was a horrible final answer from Harris.

Yet again Pence manages to weasel his way out of answering a question.

BonnieSituation

Ffs. 4 years of destruction of American politics and "now" is the time for bipartisanship?

BonnieSituation

[Deleted User] wrote: »

That was a horrible final answer from Harris.

Yet again Pence manages to weasel his way out of answering a question.

Which one?

BonnieSituation

BonnieSituation wrote: »

Right then, he best get himself nominated sometime.

Haha you thought I like Trump.

BonnieSituation

BonnieSituation wrote: »

Which one?

The one prior to this question from the 8th grader.

The one about the peaceful transition of power.

Tell me how

Deleted User wrote: »

That was a horrible final answer from Harris.

Yet again Pence manages to weasel his way out of answering a question.

Thought it was good. Biden recognizes the dangers of division and will work to counter it.

BonnieSituation

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Haha you thought I like Trump.

No?

But given this is 2020 and you're criticising the "polished" nature of the VP candidates, I figured you preferred the scattergun approach of Trump.

You'll note how Bernie is no where near the debate.

y0ssar1an22

well, thats ****ed it so