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2018 Woman's World Cup (London)

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    #272
    Steve
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    Still a fantastic result, well done to the ladies!!


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    #273
    YFlyer
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    Cork Boy 53 wrote: »
    Much the same as Charlie Haughey showing up on the victory podium on the Champs Elysees in 1987 when Stephen Roche won the Tour de France.

    Sure he was in Paris anyway buying shirts.


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    #274
    mickmackey1
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    Cork Boy 53 wrote: »
    Much the same as Charlie Haughey showing up on the victory podium on the Champs Elysees in 1987 when Stephen Roche won the Tour de France.
    Roche was already one of the most high-profile sportsmen in the country to be fair.


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    #275
    Strazdas
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    I see former Irish rugby player Philip Matthews is the father of Hannah Matthews : he was on BBC Newsline with her just now.


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    #276
    BionicRasher
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    Women's over 50's won their world cup also this weekend.
    They beat Australia 1-0 to win the master's world cup

    Just goes to show we have always had talent here and that if nurturing starts early we could do very well in the future

    Also going to show that hockey is a great sport for all ages. Many people play competitive hockey at a high level until well in to their 40s and there is a thriving master's scene with divisions right from over 40s through to the over 55s.


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    #277
    fryup
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    that foot foul rule is a bit harsh...i mean how the hell are you suppose to get your foot out of the way if someone deliberately fires it at your feet?


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    #278
    BionicRasher
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    fryup wrote: »
    that foot foul rule is a bit harsh...i mean how the hell are you suppose to get your foot out of the way if someone deliberately fires it at your feet?

    It's a very difficult and skillful game. Very hard to get out of the way of a belter hit straight at you.
    But it's a good rule as it makes players make every effort to use the stick only and in turn makes it more skilled.
    It's a very difficult game to umpire also as it's extremely quick with a lot going on both on and off the ball.


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    #279
    Birdsong
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    Great achievement by the Irish women today and through the whole tournament. They did great today.

    I did think it must have been hard for them to play again today after the semi-finals yesterday. No recovery time at all.

    Looking at the bigger picture I think it's a great example for teenager girls, who are at an age of giving up sports for what ever reason. We had the young athletes earlier in the summer also.


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    #280
    Strazdas
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    Birdsong wrote: »
    Great achievement by the Irish women today and through the whole tournament. They did great today.

    I did think it must have been hard for them to play again today after the semi-finals yesterday. No recovery time at all.

    Looking at the bigger picture I think it's a great example for teenager girls, who are at an age of giving up sports for what ever reason. We had the young athletes earlier in the summer also.

    Yes, the situation is very promising for women's sports. It looks like the women's soccer team is getting closer and closer to the point where they might be able to qualify for a tournament at some point. The team competing at a Euros or a World Cup would be a big breakthrough moment.

    It would be great if the women's hockey team could qualify for Tokyo. Team GB hockey created big interest in the UK two years ago and this Irish team getting through would make loads of headlines given their exploits this week.


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    #281
    glenfieldman
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    I didn’t even know this was a thing, but RTE and the Irish MSM think this the biggest news
    Our national broadcaster didn’t even show the games


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    #282
    Wheeliebin30
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    glenfieldman wrote: »
    I didn’t even know this was a thing, but RTE and the Irish MSM think this the biggest news
    Our national broadcaster didn’t even show the games

    They did.


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    #283
    YFlyer
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    Was there an Irish player that got called up to the squad this week? How is that allowed?


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    #284
    Strazdas
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    glenfieldman wrote: »
    I didn’t even know this was a thing, but RTE and the Irish MSM think this the biggest news
    Our national broadcaster didn’t even show the games

    In fairness, the two wins in the pool stages were widely reported and highlights were shown on RTE News. I saw highlights of the opening two wins against USA and India.


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    #285
    brendanwalsh
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    Well done to everyone involved but it was Men against girls out there today. Let's hope they get professional status now here.


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    #286
    citytillidie
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    YFlyer wrote: »
    Was there an Irish player that got called up to the squad this week? How is that allowed?

    They were allowed 2 players on the injured reserve list which is why they risked Megan Frazer, who was playing her 1st hockey in 18 months after some bad knee injuries and then ended up doing her hamstring in the semi final.

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    #287
    citytillidie
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    Anyone who were expecting Ireland to beat the Netherlands or get anywhere near them were off their head and you can't go on Spain beating Australia in a 3rd place play off.

    The semi final game for Netherlands was the worst they played in this comp and well Ireland keeping it at 6 was good.

    Pressure is now on the men for their World Cup in December over in India

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    #288
    Burkie1203
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    brendanwalsh wrote: »
    Well done to everyone involved but it was Men against girls out there today. Let's hope they get professional status now here.

    How do you propose that gets funded?


    Cricket Ireland employ full time players and they received only 100k more in sports council funding in 2017 and 2018. The cricket team travels quite a lot too.

    Hockey assoc also got ~40k from women in sport initiative and money from NI council. Not sure if CI did likewise


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    #289
    glenfieldman
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    Strazdas wrote: »
    In fairness, the two wins in the pool stages were widely reported and highlights were shown on RTE News. I saw highlights of the opening two wins against USA and India.

    Sorry my bad


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    #290
    Strazdas
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    Fantastic to see the reception the girls got at Dublin Airport. I'm no fan of Shane Ross but telling them when they arrived that hockey is going to get a huge increase in funding for Tokyo 2020 was the right thing to do and it was the right time to announce it.


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    #291
    titan18
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    Strazdas wrote:
    Fantastic to see the reception the girls got at Dublin Airport. I'm no fan of Shane Ross but telling them when they arrived that hockey is going to get a huge increase in funding for Tokyo 2020 was the right thing to do and it was the right time to announce it.


    Will it though? Where are they cutting to get that money?


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    #292
    Strazdas
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    titan18 wrote: »
    Will it though? Where are they cutting to get that money?

    Well the country is showing strong economic growth at the moment. It should be fairly easy to find the extra funding for hockey - we're probably talking about an extra few hundred thousand for the potential Olympic team, that's all. It's not as if they would need millions for their preparations.


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    #293
    cdeb
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    Strazdas wrote: »
    Well the country is showing strong economic growth at the moment. It should be fairly easy to find the extra funding for hockey - we're probably talking about an extra few hundred thousand for the potential Olympic team, that's all. It's not as if they would need millions for their preparations.
    "An extra few hundred thousand" is huge money for a bankrupt country to simply toss to a sport like women's hockey. I don't begrudge them extra funding, but I don't think you realise how much that it, or the uproar it'd (rightly) cause among other sports - men's hockey arguably being the most obvious one.


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    #294
    Strazdas
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    cdeb wrote: »
    "An extra few hundred thousand" is huge money for a bankrupt country to simply toss to a sport like women's hockey. I don't begrudge them extra funding, but I don't think you realise how much that it, or the uproar it'd (rightly) cause among other sports - men's hockey arguably being the most obvious one.

    Ross said the funding would be going to all Olympic sports, not just the women's hockey team.


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    #295
    cdeb
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    Strazdas wrote: »
    Ross said the funding would be going to all Olympic sports, not just the women's hockey team.
    Not sure that answers the question really. "A few hundred thousand" extra is a lot of money to drop.

    Ross' €220m funding is a total 10-year figure, not an increase or anything. The proposed increase is €10m/year, and you can imagine if a politician is promising that, he'll get haggled down a fair bit on the grounds of it simply not being there. And that's before the economic impact of Brexit or another housing bubble bursting.

    Like I say, I don't in the slightest begrudge the team extra money - to pay entry fees for an obvious starter - but I don't see how you can just drop in a few hundred thousand for one team.


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    #296
    titan18
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    Strazdas wrote:
    Ross said the funding would be going to all Olympic sports, not just the women's hockey team.


    Where did the money come from? I doubt they found 1.5m down the back of the couch, so it's been cut from somewhere else. He said women's hockey is to receive a significant part of it too.

    Unless that money was already earmarked in the budget and he's just announcing it now for cheap points scoring, it's likely to have come from somewhere else.


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    #297
    Strazdas
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    titan18 wrote: »
    Where did the money come from? I doubt they found 1.5m down the back of the couch, so it's been cut from somewhere else. He said women's hockey is to receive a significant part of it too.

    Unless that money was already earmarked in the budget and he's just announcing it now for cheap points scoring, it's likely to have come from somewhere else.

    As I said further up, the country is showing strong economic growth at the moment which presumably the exchequer take is increasing year in, year out. It's not as if we are in the middle of a recession and the three year IMF bailout.


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    #298
    cdeb
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    But as also noted further up, there's Brexit and a potential housing collapse on the way. The record low interest rates should be an indicator that we're not in normal economic conditions still.

    I think your premise is a rather flimsy one for finding a spare few hundred thousand for one team in one sport.


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    #299
    Strazdas
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    cdeb wrote: »
    But as also noted further up, there's Brexit and a potential housing collapse on the way. The record low interest rates should be an indicator that we're not in normal economic conditions still.

    I think your premise is a rather flimsy one for finding a spare few hundred thousand for one team in one sport.

    The exchequer take for one year is about €70bn in Ireland. An increase of funding of €1.5m for Olympic sports is not an outrageous amount. Compared to many countries, including our nearest neighbour, the amount of money we spend on sports funding is very much on the low side - it's not as if an increase is being announced on the back of massive funding.

    We only have one 50m swimming pool in the country, don't have an athletics track that could hold a major championship and no cycling velodrome. Let's keep things in some perspective.


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    #300
    Cork Boy 53
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    Strazdas wrote: »
    The exchequer take for one year is about €70bn in Ireland. An increase of funding of €1.5m for Olympic sports is not an outrageous amount. Compared to many countries, including our nearest neighbour, the amount of money we spend on sports funding is very much on the low side - it's not as if an increase is being announced on the back of massive funding.

    We only have one 50m swimming pool in the country, don't have an athletics track that could hold a major championship and no cycling velodrome. Let's keep things in some perspective.

    Are there not plans to build a velodrome in Ireland in the fairly near future?


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    #301
    munchkin_utd
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    titan18 wrote: »
    Where did the money come from? I doubt they found 1.5m down the back of the couch, so it's been cut from somewhere else. He said women's hockey is to receive a significant part of it too.

    Unless that money was already earmarked in the budget and he's just announcing it now for cheap points scoring, it's likely to have come from somewhere else.
    Horse racing gets 64million a year in subsidy, so you could shave a measly 1.5 million off that and still the millionaires will have plenty of taxpayer funded prizemoney to fight over.
    http://collegetribune.ie/horseracinggovtfunding/


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