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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,482 ✭✭✭Lazare


    Cheers D, thanks for the follow on Strava too. Always great to link up with more boardsies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,482 ✭✭✭Lazare


    Cheers for this Alan.


    The Glute injury in July may have played more of a role than you think, it does look like from 1st Aug onwards, you had really strong training block - but the 4 weeks from the Glute injury took mileage away (& sessions) - 10 weeks of solid training - you need everything to go your way.

    Interesting. I did adjust the goal from 3:05 to 3:10 because of it, but I also worried at the time that I had missed too much. Maybe you're right and I did. The last three weeks weren't 100% either.


    The cramp is interesting - I recall you got cramp in the 10k in Dunshaughlin - did that feel different or similar to what you had this time. Your cramp seems to be manageable in that you dont lock up - mine becomes an inability to run at times (apart from Rotterdam when I managed it (inc in S&C) and San Seb when I ran within myself. )

    It was very similar to Dunshaughlin this time alright, right calf mostly, it letting me know as soon as I upped the effort. It's like it puts a ceiling on what you can do pace wise. Dunshaughlin was my first time experiencing it in anything shorter than a marathon. Was really surprised by it then tbh. I don't lock up if I dial back the pace. I've certainly locked up though before and it's absolutely awful.


    I've cramped in all but 1 Marathon I've done - I used to be convinced it was electrolytes, but I've done so much research I'm convinced its down to 3 main things (with me);

    (1) Specific Training - I'm convinced people who are prone to cramp have to train more specifically - not harder - just differently. (I've not found my sweet spot yet - but getting there)

    Would love to hear more about this.

    (2) Strength Training - Very specific S&C for runners - Hammys, glutes, calfs, core - everything - become a beast. (+ hills)

    I think this could well be key. Did you say above that you didn't lock up in Rotterdam because of S&C? Was your S&C add on unique to that block, or was there more focus/routine to it?

    (3) Proper Carb loading - starting 3 days before - for me - its to get 650g or Carbs each day - broken into 2-3 hour intervals.

    Would never have put carb loading into the mix when mitigating cramp, v interesting.


    From reading your log I also get a very strong passion for your goal that at times comes across as an obsession - I know we all obsess on Running (I'm probably 50% productive in work most days) - but does yours become a 'worry' or an 'anxiety' that takes energy away from you?? Just a question and maybe I'm reading it incorrectly.

    I don't think so, as in, I'm definitely obsessed haha, but I honestly don't feel it negatively impacts me in any way, quite the opposite really. Bar race week/race day when I become irritable, but I think that's standard.

    Be proud of yourself young man - its great that your disappointed - you say above thats its just a teeny timy bit - but I think we get that its more than that - as we've all been there!

    Haha, I loved reading this bit. Bang to rights 😄. I couldn't figure out or understand why I wasn't delighted with it for a bit, but I think it's down to falling short of what I expected of myself. Even though I've exceeded what I previously was capable of, it still feels like falling short. I guess that's because I got such a high off the opposite happening at other races this year, Raheny, Bohermeen and Leixlip. Was chasing that feeling.

    I'll simply have to work on that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,808 ✭✭✭skyblue46


    A few questions and observations...

    What do you think your ceiling is in a marathon? I think that just as you are now less than enthused by beating your previous best you will see this year's benchmark in the same light next year.

    Will Hanson be used again?

    Race time predictors are a bit bonkers when it comes to marathon times. 3:05 was probably over ambitious, 3:10 needed a perfect block of training.

    Were the Endorphins everything you hoped they would be?

    How much did you spend on taxis over the weekend?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,482 ✭✭✭Lazare


    Cheers Sean, great questions.


    What do you think your ceiling is in a marathon?

    I think I'm on a similar journey to @scotindublin . We have similar PBs at similar stages of our progressions. He has far from peaked I think, but I am a couple of years older. I've read that masters runners, or more precisely, masters runners who took running up late in life peak at between 7 and 12 years. I'm 7 years in now. I've improved a lot over the last 12 months and hope to continue that, I think I will. I don't see why I can't be aiming for low 2:50s in a couple of years time. Fingers crossed for it.

    I think that just as you are now less than enthused by beating your previous best you will see this year's benchmark in the same light next year.

    Cheers, I hope so too.

    Will Hanson be used again?

    Most definitely. I absolutely loved everything about it. Mostly though it's simplicity. It's hard to find anyone on the Hanson's thread who has fallen short. Once they've fully completed it obviously haha.

    Race time predictors are a bit bonkers when it comes to marathon times. 3:05 was probably over ambitious, 3:10 needed a perfect block of training.

    This is a really fair point. I guess the 3:05 confidence came from the sub 19 at Leixlip. I know you don't use 5ks as a predictor, in fact that predicted 3:00:x , but it made me think I was growing beyond what Bohermeen in March predicted. I do feel I've learnt so much from this block, that is up there.

    Were the Endorphins everything you hoped they would be?

    Yeah, they felt awesome. I'm not a shoe connoisseur like your good self, so I can't tell you more than they felt good. I think I mentioned previously that when testing them on a tempo I felt they encouraged landing more on the mid foot which seems a good design.

    How much did you spend on taxis over the weekend?

    Because I'm an impatient and disorganised lazy money burning bast$rd I spent a total sum of €148 on taxis.


    Got home quicker than you tho



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,237 ✭✭✭AuldManKing




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,427 ✭✭✭scotindublin


    €148 on taxis.....Christ on a bike......you would have saved a fortune if you were 🤣🤣.

    You know my thoughts so I don't need to go into the detail here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,482 ✭✭✭Lazare


    I left the goal wide open for him with Got home quicker than you tho but he seems unusually restraint in not kicking it home 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,808 ✭✭✭skyblue46


    Restraint based on knowing the worm will some day turn 😉



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,482 ✭✭✭Lazare


    I stuck my Hanson review up in the Hanson thread...

    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121318051/#Comment_121318051



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,942 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa


    I've signed up for Amsterdam next year, thanks in part to the endorsements of yourself and everyone else that did it this year.

    One thing I noticed when reading up on it - there are two starting areas, with 3/4 of the field starting in the stadium (Area A), but the other 1/4 starting starting nearby at Stadionweg (Area B). Both areas go off at the same time, and join together after 1km, I can't make out for definite from the info if there are pace groups in Area B too, but presumably there are, and maybe that's the group you encountered around 20k? Maybe Area B got away cleaner and quicker than Area A hence them being so far ahead.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,482 ✭✭✭Lazare


    That's gas A, I didn't realise that, I thought the later waves started outside the stadium.

    That makes sense now. I guess there was 800 metres or so between the two groups and it took me 8 miles or so to close it.


    Delighted you've signed up, you're going to love it.

    Public transport is excellent, but if I was doing it again I'd look for a closer hotel. I was in Amstelveen and according to any taxi driver I spoke to it may aswel have been Germany.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,808 ✭✭✭skyblue46


    I think the waves that started inside the stadium started before those who started outside. The 3:20hrs Pacers were in our wave which started at 09:03. Unfortunately our gun time was about 10 mins so running at 3:15 pace it would logically take quite a distance to catch them. In fact if they set off at 09.03 we wouldn't have caught them at all. The Pacers were probably were slightly behind the 09.03 start time too.

    Bottom line is we were caught too far back because C and E needed a last minute pee and we initially struggled to find our wave start area 😂😂😂

    As for a hotel, I couldn't find fault with Motel One on Europaboulevard. It was easily reached from the airport, convenient to Dam Square by metro and ,as I belatedly found out, has a cheapish Italian restaurant across the road which served nice large portions of pasta. 😁

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,942 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa


    Cheers lads, appreciate those pointers



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 379 ✭✭mister paul


    Bottom line is we were caught too far back because C and E needed a last minute pee and we initially struggled to find our wave start area 😂😂😂

    Could they not have held it in until afterwards? Lightweights.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,482 ✭✭✭Lazare


    Haha, I didn't even need to go, only went because that Sean fella did.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,509 ✭✭✭Laineyfrecks


    Oh that's how it is, I'm getting hung out to dry here!!

    Vacancy has just opened up for 2 new running friends to travel to marathons together. Being up for a bit of craic is essential. Backstabbers need not apply🙄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,482 ✭✭✭Lazare


    🤣🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 379 ✭✭mister paul


    Oh that's how it is, I'm getting hung out to dry here!!

    If you're getting hung out to dry after going for a pee, I'm not sure you're doing it right.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,482 ✭✭✭Lazare


    Jeepers this is well overdue an update. Been meaning to for weeks, every time I go to post on it I feel I've too many things to update about so I put it off, which just adds more things to update about. So I guess I'll just give some cliff notes and clear the way to begin logging again.

    Signed up in Oct for Milan marathon, my first ever Spring mara. April 7th. The sign up process was a bit eh Italian. Messy and confusing. There was a bit on the form that couldn't be completed, you were prompted to click 'Don't complete' (or something along those lines) with a message saying there would be an email in February with details. Ok, eh, grand so.

    Did some googling then and discovered it was a bit of a sh1tshow. In order to compete at it (get a chip time) I was going to have to do a barrage of tests with the GP, ECG, Spirograph, urine tests, submit those results in Feb and wait to hear back. I read a review online from some guy who said the organisers didn't approve his entry until 4 days before the event! Imagine waiting until the ripe end of your taper madness to find out whether you were running the thing or not, with flights and everything booked. Fook that.

    I could avoid the barrage of tests and opt for a simple 'shure he's grand' letter from the GP, but I wouldn't get a chip time. Gun time only. That's no use.

    There was a big get out of jail card though available. You can avoid all of that crap if you're a member of your country's Athletics federation.

    So that's what I did. I'd been giving it serious thought anyway, but now it seems I was given a kick up the hole to go do it. I joined Donore.

    Joined up in mid December. Pretty soon after joining one of the coaches got in touch about getting involved with his training group, sessions Wed and Sat.

    I joined the group and went along to a Wed session the week before Xmas. 6x a mile @10k on the track. Monster of a session, especially since I hadn't ran anything like it in two months. Loved it though, loved the group.

    Decided though that I was going to train Hanson for Milan with a view to getting stuck into the group sessions after it. Idea being that I have great recent data to compare to, to give me a good zone in on a target.

    Target was to cement a BQ. Amsterdam gave me a 4:13 buffer, but I don't think that's going to be enough. I feel <3:13 is needed.

    I had decided to get stuck in and regimented with Hanson as soon as New Years hit, and take December easy, but consistent. I usually fall way off a cliff in December but I managed to keep consistency up somewhat, running a bigger December than ever before.

    Three weeks in I ran the Hanson Tuesday ladder session on the Donore track. 400/800/1200/1600/1200/800/400. All at 10k pace bar the last rep, which I ran at about 3k pace. A little over 8m total on the track. That Thurs I ran a 7m tempo. On the cool down I felt a bit of pain outside the left knee, very uncomfortable running.

    On and off pain with it for a week or so up until Raheny. Felt pretty sore on the warm up that day. I probably shouldn't have ran the race. But I did. I ran a pretty great race, 32:10 for a 44 second PB, with a really strong confidence boosting last couple of miles.

    Haven't ran since though. Puke.

    Physio determined I damaged the meniscus, that track session the culprit. I'm pretty green with track running. I should have alternated direction.

    Have been doing rehab excersises and taking anti-inflamms. Tried a couple of miles last Mon but the pain came on after a km forcing stop/start/walk. Physio gave me a new plan of rehab then that I've been following this week.

    Ran a mile on the treadmill yesterday and it was pretty good, issue relegated to a slight niggle so fingers crossed I'll be back at it very soon. I'm seeing him again tomorrow.

    Bohermeen was also lined up, three weeks time. I'll think some more about what happens with that, and with Milan.


    I'll be back at it soon though and will work towards snatching back that fitness.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,509 ✭✭✭Laineyfrecks


    Hope to see you back at it very soon C 😊



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,482 ✭✭✭Lazare




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,763 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    Sorry to hear this, interesting that the track session was blamed. I would have thought you'd have gotten away without altering direction but then I remembered the Donore track is 300m so, yeah, more laps and tighter bends too. Unlucky all the same. Hopefully some good news from the physio.

    Tough break.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,482 ✭✭✭Lazare


    Cheers D, yeah, pretty frustrating.

    Not much better this week but fingers crossed not too much longer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,482 ✭✭✭Lazare


    Dusting the cobwebs off to give a bit of a report on DCM, and the lead up. Hopefully not TL;DR 😊

    The marathon is all about goals, a hierarchy of goals. Top dog goal for me this time out was the goal of running the race cramp free.

    Calf cramp, quad cramp, glute cramp, being taken out by a sniper cramp, my previous maras have all been hampered by cramp. Crampered.

    While I had a really good Amsterdam last year in terms of time improvement, I was pretty unhappy with how the last 10k played out. Cramp forced a slow down and I bled valuable minutes because of it.

    Shortly after that race I listened to an interview on the Runner’s Diary pod with George Sherwood, he of Precision Hydration. He was talking about this sweat test they do that allows them determine how salty a sweater you are, and tailor a hydration plan for you, all with the aim of eliminating cramp.

    I was all over it. Got in touch with George straight away and booked in for a test.

    Did that last November and it turned out I’m a really salty sweater, like a supplier to Macari salty sweater. This seemed like really good news.

    I actually had Milan marathon in mind back then, April 2024 but I got injured in Jan so we’ll fast forward.

    In and around late April, early May I attended a talk at our club about strength training, hosted by my physio Lee who also happens to be an ex international athlete. He’s currently doing a masters in strength and conditioning and how it impacts running performance. The talk was fantastic, and I decided straight away to begin strength training. Lee is also a personal trainer so I booked in with him and started weekly 30 min sessions. The goal then to simply get stronger, and improve my overall running economy. All running specific stuff, barbell squats, plyometrics (pogo jumps, box jumps) a little upper body. Within a few weeks I was squatting a decent amount relative to my body weight, and really feeling the positive effects of it in my training.

    About 14 weeks out from Dublin Lee started asking me about my plan for it. He told me to cherry pick the best bits from previous training blocks and come up with a plan, and he would critique and tweak.

    He had been telling me all about Canova’s marathon sessions so I decided to incorporate them into it as the main focus.

    These were basically ‘On/Off’ sessions, where the ON is marathon pace and the OFF (float) is 30 seconds or so (per km) slower, so your HR is never really dropping too low. I did these every second week. They built in intensity, starting with an 8x 1k, 1k float, and finishing with a 4x 5k, with 1k float. That last one an absolute beast, but one I felt so good and ready after.

    I used a blend of Hanson and Bob Williams to come up with the structure around the Canova stuff. No easy long runs, every long run had something going on.

    Six days a week, rest on Thursday. Sessions Wednesday and Saturday. Between myself and Lee we came up with a pretty decent bespoke training program.

    I felt I really nailed the training. Consistent running, no slacking off. On previous mara blocks there’s always been chunks of time missing due to injury or sickness, this was different. I did sit out a few days two weeks out (during taper) with what I thought was a developing injury. Was scared shitless of progressing it, so played things safe and rested. Lee reassured me though that it was nothing, and I got back on the horse for the last week. Last session on the Wednesday (5x 1km) and was good to go.

    Here's the original plan, a couple of small changes made, but mostly as is.

    2024 plan sshot.png

    The Race

    With the nippers shipped off to their Nana’s house the evening before, Mrs Laz and I woke up at about 5am after a decent rest. The two of us were racing DCM, her second, my fourth. Park and Ride at the Red Cow then the Luas in.

    We had friends staying in the Davenport so headed to them and used the facilities. J was in a later wave so I left her there and headed to the start.

    Pre DCM is such an absolute buzz, you can almost feel electricity fizzing off people as we all mill around excitedly. It’s a real pinch me feeling. You’ve been thinking about this moment for so so long, it almost feels like an illusion. Such tremendous excitement.

    I positioned myself halfway between the 3:10 and 3:20 pacers in the start pen and soaked it all in while waiting for the klaxon. Target is 3:10. PB is 3:15:47.

    Nutrition plan is a Precision Nutrition gel every 25 mins, and 2x salt tablets every hour, the first at 25 mins.

    Boom and we’re off. New start line this year, new first couple of km and a new finish. The opening couple of km now takes you around Christchurch down Dame St, left onto Parliament St and then onto the Quays. Was a really nice stretch. Bumped into @MisterJinx along the quays (he will pop back into the story later), he said he was gonna run his own race, and let me run my own, but he would be nearby. Exactly what I wanted to hear, and he knew that. Last thing you want is to feel pressure to waste energy chatting (more on that later also). You just can’t afford it when you’re pushing your limit in a marathon. Every joule of energy is to be put to use.

    We crossed the Liffey and headed up through Stoneybatter and I all of a sudden started to feel some negativity, the first of the mental wobbles. This was surprisingly early though. Normally these don’t come on until way way later. I had had plenty of niggles and pain throughout the training block and I started getting really anxious that I was going to need to pull out. The thoughts of facing Lee, Mrs Laz and my running buddies after DNFing less than 5k into the race had me sweating. Dealt with that sort of headspace until we entered the Phoenix Park. It lifted then and I felt more of a spring in my stride. I’ve done so much running in the Park the last few months that this just felt like home.

    Chesterfield is a long oul drag so I just settled into a rhythm and plodded along.

    My pace plan was based off 5k splits, so I had a target average pace for each 5k section.

    Target average pace for this section was 4:34 per km and I was a touch quicker than that. Was actually about 40 seconds faster than planned going through 10k. Target time for that split was 46:20 and I went under it in and around 45:40.

    That actually made me a little nervous. Remember, my main goal is to get through this thing without cramping, I just can’t be overcooking it or I’m fooked.

    10 – 15k was a dream. Target average was 4:25 and I ran it pretty much at that. Lots of downhill, back into the PP for more familiarity and out the gate to run by Donore. The shoutout here from my coach and clubmates was phenomenal. The crowd generally throughout the entire course was a thing of beauty. Such an incredible experience.

    Over the Liffey once more and through Chapelizod to Ballyfermot. Took it incredibly easy going up the hill at St Lawrence’s road. Shortened the stride and slowed right down to about 6:20 a km. People were storming past me but I DGAF, I let them at it. This hill will kill you. You just won’t find out it killed you until Milltown. So I pottered up it. When I got to the top I picked things back up.

    Mentioned earlier about not wanting to chat. I was running up towards Kilmainham Gaol when I heard someone in the crowd call out a familiar name. ‘GO ON GARY F….), I turned around and spotted the lad, a really really sound guy I know from parkrun. I said hello and asked him how he was getting on. We started chatting and straight away I started to get a wave of negativity, the second bout. Negative thoughts around wasting energy chatting. I figured I needed to drop Gary and do my own thing. Didn’t feel comfortable straight up saying it to him. Came upon a water station and found an opportune moment. Told him I needed to slow to take the salt tabs, so I did that. Actually dropped one on the ground and stopped to pick it up.

    Was now back on my own but was still dipping in and out of mental wobbles. A decent boost of morale coming around the bend at Dolphin’s Barn, the crowd here like a furnace. Amazing what that can do for you. The beginning of the long Crumlin slog.

    This stretch is an absolutely horrible bastard. It’s always windy, it’s a draggy hill and it goes on and on and on for what seems like forever.

    Through the halfway gantry bang on target in 1:35:56, target time on the paceband was 1:35:57 so was really happy with that.

    Slogged up Crumlin road then.

    I’ve been having this issue with my right leg the last couple of years. It’s a weird one, and hard to explain. It just starts to feel, I dunno, awkward I guess. Like I’ve lost the full range of motion of it and am half dragging it. It tends to last 15 minutes or so, so a couple of miles before working itself out. Not without slowing me down though.

    I recently discovered that if I stop and ‘pump’ it, it clears it up. I had decided pre-race that that was what I was gonna do this time. The first of those was on Crumlin road, I pulled in to the right and leaned against a pole, pumping the right lower leg. No more than about 8 to 10 seconds I would say. Between that and the general slog of this section, it was a low ebb in the race mentally. Low ebbs are part of it though, and I remembered that, and repeated it to myself when I came out the other side.

    A funny thing happened there actually. I must have ran past Gary, the lad I slowed to avoid chatting to, at some point. As I was pumping out the right leg I just heard ‘Ah Jaysis, WTF are you doing?’, I turned and it was him. I goes ‘ah I only stopped for a sec Gary, have this thing with the leg ya know’. He goes ‘Wha?, no, your man’ pointing up the road at some lad on a bike that nearly knocked him over 😂.

    Rounded the bend onto Walkinstown Ave and I felt pretty good now, the slog is over. A good friend from parkrun was outside SuperValu with his own little support table. Got a banana from him. It was a bit bruisy though haha, and I was jealous of the fresh looking ones these oul dears were handing out. Told them as much and they laughed. Good craic, sure you need it.

    I love Walkinstown roundabout, to me it feels like the proper halfway point. There’s definitely a bit of a mindset shift when you get past here, a countdown. The roar at it was absolutely awesome.

    Mindset also was mostly positive now, some negative moments but generally I was doing well. I remember running by the 14 mile marker and calculating that I had 19km left to go but that being a really positive thought. ‘Sure just 9k left and then I’ve only a 10k’.

    All was rosey until another bout of that leg thing coming through Terenure. It brings a lot of negativity with it too. I had some cramping issues at this point in 2022 so was generally very much on edge. Even though I knew stopping and pumping fixed it a while back I was really reluctant to stop now, not sure why, anxious about cramp I suppose.

    I ran alongside a telegraph pole though and just said feck it, stopped and grabbed a hold of it and started pumping.

    MisterJinx ran by me here and asked me was I ok. I jumped in alongside him and told him the craic with the leg.

    We ran together for a bit. He said the same thing as earlier, that basically we’ll have plenty of time for chatting over pints later 😊. Absolutely perfect. We both knuckled down and got on with it, but he pulled ahead of me somewhat. (He absolutely bossed it).

    Things were mostly fine now, mentally and physically. I had a couple of milestones coming up that I had to get through mentally. Places where things had gone awry before. A spot in Milltown and another a couple of miles later. Got through Milltown with zero issues and the confidence built. Came up to the spot in Clonskeagh where I’d gotten hit with a sniper in 2022, and again, through it with no issue.

    About 7km to go now and I all of a sudden start to feel really strong and confident. It’s dawning on me that I may get through this cramp free. Nerves are gone now. Have never felt this way at the business end of a marathon before and it’s exhilarating.

    Crested the hill at Clonskeagh and turned onto the downhill of Fosters Ave. I had told Gary back at Kilmainham that I was dreaming of Fosters and here it is. Ploughed down it at around 10k pace feeling absolutely amazing. I saw a couple of Donore singlets up ahead, one a woman that I recognized, a legend of the club. I pulled alongside her and said hello and introduced myself. She kinda looked at me a little funny 😊

    We traded places back and forth for a bit, I’m still in awe at how good I feel. Legs are tired and sore alright, and I was dreaming of the finish line but relatively speaking I felt awesome.

    Ran by a friend here with his lovely family out supporting, got a great shoutout. Down Nutley and left for home. Just digging deep here and keeping it up, still feeling really good. Shoutout from @scotindublin at the RDS (the third shout from him) and @skyblue46 at the old Burlo. Almost home.

    Spotted another Donore singlet, a lad I took in the last 600m of Ratoath half. He was struggling and I took him again. 2k to go and I remember thinking that this time I was going to be mindful of the crowds for the final stretch. The last couple of times they’ve been a blur, a brain boiling mush of noise and flickering memories. Wanted to drink them in this time.

    The new finish line gave us that in such a big way this year.

    Went through 41k towards the canal bridge and the road narrowed. Roars of crowds left and right. Over the bridge and a left turn, bodies eight deep on both sides, a cauldron of noise. It was **** immense. I actually cried with the buzz of it.

    Was still running strong, but had a sense that I was at my max. Along the crowd filled canal, then a sharp right turn to come upon the majestic Pepper Cannister. Around to the left of it, one leg in front of the other, crowd faces, singlets in front, road underneath, crowd noise, echoey commentary, clap clap of runners, grunts and breaths. The gantry coming into view, the purple carpet. Onto it, still moving, legs turning as fast as they can. Can’t believe it, can’t believe I’m about to cross the line, this doesn’t feel real. The whole block and all the sacrifice and hard work that went into it condenses into that moment. That last few metres, when you throw your hands up into the air and cross the line. There’s no feeling like it.

    I pressed the button on my watch and collapsed into the arms of a steward 😊

    3:12:10 for a new PB and a pretty much nailed on BQ.

    Mrs Laz ( @MiniMonstera ) absolutely bossed the thing, bagging a sub 4 (3:59:37), a 45 minute PB and a huge negative split. Although I was really happy with how things went, this was the absolute highlight of the day. Massively proud of her.

    Am taking away a lot of positives from this season, and a lot of learning. The S&C work is key, and I’m absolutely keeping that going. The nutrition worked well too so will repeat that. Mostly though I’m going to take a lot of confidence forward with me to the next one, based on how I felt for that last 6 or 7 km. Now that I know it’s possible to run one without cramp I can probably minimise the negativity in the earlier stages.

    Hopefully keep chipping away at it.

    Cheers guys, thanks for reading.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,237 ✭✭✭AuldManKing


    Amazing!! What a superb read.

    Delighted you beat the cramps - they are my nemsis too - so was reading with a lot of interest and anxiety right up until you finished.

    Great run and delighted for you!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,482 ✭✭✭Lazare


    Ah cheers A, thanks very much.

    Such a relief to get through it without them.

    S&C played a crucial role I feel.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,928 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    Two Mondays ago, I was at a class described as RT24. We weren't new to S&C, but were to this format - relentless training for 24 minutes. You'd nearly have needed a firehouse to wash off the sweat. I think S&C is essentially confidence by stealth. You do it…it's in the core/arms/legs/whatever. Down the road, such as in a tempo spin, you notice, hey - I can actually hold a decent effort here.

    Well done.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,482 ✭✭✭Lazare


    Thanks so much TBO, that definitely sounds like an intense workout alright.

    You're dead right about it, it's pure fitness in the bank stuff.



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