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pixelburp

Rjd2 wrote: »

Comey, Cohen, Pete Strzok to name a few all profited hugely from the resistance. I assume Rossenstein will be no different.

Ah come on. "The Resistance" is glib and reductionist: any sacked / resigning member of the White House senior staff always has the potential to do well in terms of both publicity and 'the memoir', regardless of party or era. The dirt-slinging biography is not a unique or recent beast. And as already mentioned above, those NDAs Trump had his staff sign aren't even enforceable. Still doesn't preclude the possibility of a disappearing pension in terms of ones decision. It's a fair question to ask.

jooksavage

Itssoeasy wrote: »

There seems to be a lot of conflicting stories around the rosenstein firing/resigning. It seems reporters are being told different things from sources that normally would know.

It looks like Axios are the ones who initially broke the "resignation" story. Everything since then seems to be point to firing. I'd be surprised if Rosenstaain resigned but I'd also be pretty surprised if Tough Guy Trump had the guts to fire him to his face.

Inquitus

Seems like these were just leaks from the WH to put pressure on Rosenstein, the meeting was a scheduled one, and he left with his role of DAG intact, hopefully he holds the line and makes them fire him if that's what they want!

Rjd2

pixelburp wrote: »

Ah come on. "The Resistance" is glib and reductionist: any sacked / resigning member of the White House senior staff always has the potential to do well in terms of both publicity and 'the memoir', regardless of party or era. The dirt-slinging biography is not a unique or recent beast. And as already mentioned above, those NDAs Trump had his staff sign aren't even enforceable. Still doesn't preclude the possibility of a disappearing pension in terms of ones decision. It's a fair question to ask.

Its an expression not aimed at the left, just the minority of idiots who then proceed to make these guys rich. The Comey incident personifies it, hammered for supposedly playing a big role in losing the election for Clinton and then made a fortune selling his book by unloading on Trump.

Why on earth did ****wits give Cohen close to 200k?

Pete Strzok got 500k in his gofundme, absurd.

Expect this guy to have a very profitable gofundme by next week.

Pelvis

jooksavage wrote: »

It looks like Axios are the ones who initially broke the "resignation" story. Everything since then seems to be point to firing. I'd be surprised if Rosenstaain resigned but I'd also be pretty surprised if Tough Guy Trump had the guts to fire him to his face.

Trump is in New York for the UN Council.

If Rosenstein is fired it will be at the hands of John Kelly.

Hande hoche!

Rjd2 wrote: »

Its an expression not aimed at the left, just the minority of idiots who then proceed to make these guys rich. The Comey incident personifies it, hammered for supposedly playing a big role in losing the election for Clinton and then made a fortune selling his book by unloading on Trump.

Why on earth did ****wits give Cohen close to 200k?

Pete Strzok got 500k in his gofundme, absurd.

Expect this guy to have a very profitable gofundme by next week.

Would expect Rosenstein to do even better in cash terms if it came to that. His confirmation was one of the smoothest. He has considerable support.


Then again who knows what going to end up happening...

jooksavage

Rjd2 wrote: »

Its an expression not aimed at the left, just the minority of idiots who then proceed to make these guys rich. The Comey incident personifies it, hammered for supposedly playing a big role in losing the election for Clinton and then made a fortune selling his book by unloading on Trump.

Why on earth did ****wits give Cohen close to 200k?

Pete Strzok got 500k in his gofundme, absurd.

Expect this guy to have a very profitable gofundme by next week.

Yeah God forbid someone makes money on the back of Trump destroying their careers and vilifying them from his bully pulpit.

Rjd2

jooksavage wrote: »

Yeah God forbid someone makes money on the back of Trump destroying their careers and vilifying them from his bully pulpit.

You can hate Trump and dislike people who slag him off for that sweet naive resistance money you know. Slagging Trump does not automatically mean you are a good person and deserving of money which could go to much worthier and needed causes. FFS give it to a Dem who is near you running on November instead of to a loaded Trump accomplice who has decided to say mean things about Trump because he is ****ed.

FreudianSlippers

https://twitter.com/jonkarl/status/1044261344562884610

FreudianSlippers

So, if accurate, has Sessions been sacked?

Inquitus

FreudianSlippers wrote: »

So, if accurate, has Sessions been sacked?

No, Sessions is in Alabama attending the Public Safety Partnership Symposium!

https://www.dothanfirst.com/news/local-news/attorney-general-jeff-sessions-speaks-in-hoover-on-safety/1471286647

Itssoeasy

FreudianSlippers wrote: »

So, if accurate, has Sessions been sacked?

I've heard audio of Jeff sessions today joking at an event (although msnbc were wondering was he joking) about being happy to not be in Washington as you never know what might happen when he's there. Which was taken to mean if he goes back to Washington DC he'll be fired.


Also sarah sanders has said that trump and rosenstein will meet on Thursday.

duploelabs

Rjd2 wrote: »

You can hate Trump and dislike people who slag him off for that sweet naive resistance money you know. Slagging Trump does not automatically mean you are a good person and deserving of money which could go to much worthier and needed causes. FFS give it to a Dem who is near you running on November instead of to a loaded Trump accomplice who has decided to say mean things about Trump because he is ****ed.

I wouldn't label those who went out to expose what it's like to work for DJT in the white house as 'slagging'

everlast75

Itssoeasy wrote: »

I've heard audio of Jeff sessions today joking at an event (although msnbc were wondering was he joking) about being happy to not be in Washington as you never know what might happen when he's there. Which was taken to mean if he goes back to Washington DC he'll be fired.


Also sarah sanders has said that trump and rosenstein will meet on Thursday.

Same day as the Kavanaugh hearing, eh?

Not a distraction at all!

aloyisious

FreudianSlippers wrote: »

https://twitter.com/jonkarl/status/1044261344562884610

So is it just coincidence that JS is out of town on the day he was expected to be at a scheduled Washington meeting & Kelly has RR standing in for JS at the meeting? Maybe the W/House internal politicking has us all confused.

Christy42

I would just ignore all these stories. I don't see the point in predicting a firing.

Someone gets fired then we have something. These leaks could be a few playing silly buggers to jam up the headlines for a day.

EltonJohn69

mmm... maybe Trump was over ruled ?

Eric Cartman

everlast75 wrote: »

Those apprentice tapes with the N word are apparently now in the hands of Ronan Farrow...


Tick tock tick tock...

Another week and the tapes aren't there, can we admit they're not real yet ?

everlast75

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Another week and the tapes aren't there, can we admit they're not real yet ?

How about I will apologise if they don't surface, and you apologise if they do?

And while I have you...

1) what effect do you think they might have on the American public
2) what difference would they make to your opinion of the man?

jobbridge4life

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Another week and the tapes aren't there, can we admit they're not real yet ?

Just like Trump accepted immediately once Obama produced his birth cert...

This is too easy.

Eric Cartman

everlast75 wrote: »

How about I will apologise if they don't surface, and you apologise if they do?

And while I have you...

1) what effect do you think they might have on the American public
2) what difference would they make to your opinion of the man?

I will gladly agree to that.

1)I think it wouldn't damage his core supporters much at all, I think all of the minorities that support him would reconsider.
2)I personally do not think these tapes do exist, I can't see this man being that careless and getting away with it all this time, thats something that would have done him in long before presidential campaign. However if real Ill acknowledge that perhaps he harbours racist views towards black people.

as a follow up , if they are found to be not real

1) Will your opinion / trust of the media outlets pimping this story be diminished at all ?
2) Will it likely make you think again before posting about these "we have this evidence against Donald, we can't let you see/hear it yet but promise its real" type stories ?

Eric Cartman

jobbridge4life wrote: »

Just like Trump accepted immediately once Obama produced his birth cert...

This is too easy.

Like Hillary and all the democrats accepted the election result and didn't go off on a big tangent that it was tampered with almost immediately and without any evidence ?

Captain Obvious

Eric Cartman wrote: »

building a wall for Mexico = not racist
banning people from terror prone states (yes I know he didn't get them all , don't bother bringing Saudi into this) = not racist
making American born citizens top priority = not racist.

I see the 'N Word' tape never made it to light , Cant really find any evidence of actual racism, but theres lots of things that people pre-prepared to just hate the guy would gladly go 'ohh thats racist'

The NY Times has a list for you.



https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01/15/opinion/leonhardt-trump-racist.html


Although seeing as how you've just said him calling someone the n word would only "perhaps" convince you he harboured racist views, I'm not exactly sure how you define a racist.

Leroy42

Eric Cartman wrote: »

jobbridge4life wrote: »

Just like Trump accepted immediately once Obama produced his birth cert...

This is too easy.

Like Hillary and all the democrats accepted the election result and didn't go off on a big tangent that it was tampered with almost immediately and without any evidence ?

Em, wasn't that Trump?

Eric Cartman

Captain Obvious wrote: »

The NY Times has a list for you.



https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01/15/opinion/leonhardt-trump-racist.html


Although seeing as how you've just said him calling someone the n word would only "perhaps" convince you he harboured racist views, I'm not exactly sure how you define a racist.

ill have to look up all of those to check exactly , but stuff like "he called Obama a lazy student" isn't racist , just because he insults somebody of another race doesn't make it race related. They also have a section on anti-semitism in which they talk about him tweeting a star of David next to money yet can't produce the tweet, also considering the way trump goes on about Israel (which Im not a fan of) , he's the worst anti-semite US president Ive ever seen.

mcmoustache

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Like Hillary and all the democrats accepted the election result and didn't go off on a big tangent that it was tampered with almost immediately and without any evidence ?

???


There's a lot of nonsense there but you surely must be aware that



1. Hillary and the Dems conceded very quickly. There was one former Democrat who claimed that it was rigged but that was before the election.


2. The Russian interference was well known at that point by the intelligence community so your claim that it was "without evidence" is in fact, bullshít.

Nody

mcmoustache wrote: »

2. The Russian interference was well known at that point by the intelligence community so your claim that it was "without evidence" is in fact, bullshít.

Well he might have been confused and forgotten the millions illegal mexicans voting for Hilary that Trump claimed voted as well directly at election.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/802972944532209664?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E802972944532209664&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F2016%2F11%2F27%2Fpolitics%2Fdonald-trump-voter-fraud-popular-vote%2Findex.html

BabyCheeses

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Like Hillary and all the democrats accepted the election result and didn't go off on a big tangent that it was tampered with almost immediately and without any evidence ?

Was that before or after 5 million illegals voted?


How does it work, have you really convinced yourself that Trump can do nothing wrong? It is a bit too much of a coincidence that Trump supporters constantly accuse others of what they do themselves. Surely they are capable of seeing that?

Igotadose

Nody wrote: »

Well he might have been confused and forgotten the millions illegal mexicans voting for Hilary that Trump claimed voted as well directly at election.[/URL]

Arguing with the cult45 member has become pointless. As Trump himself said, he could shoot people on 5th avenue and not lose votes. Something like him calling Obama lazy, well, that's going to be disbelieved if Trump tells them to disbelieve it.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/donald-trump-fifth-avenue-comment/

They don't want to discuss Trump's achievements. They want to wallow in the glory of his absurdity, it gives them some meaning to their lives, whose quality is eroding under Trump.

Midlife

Igotadose wrote: »

Arguing with the cult45 member has become pointless. As Trump himself said, he could shoot people on 5th avenue and not lose votes. Something like him calling Obama lazy, well, that's going to be disbelieved if Trump tells them to disbelieve it.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/donald-trump-fifth-avenue-comment/

They don't want to discuss Trump's achievements. They want to wallow in the glory of his absurdity, it gives them some meaning to their lives, whose quality is eroding under Trump.

Yeah. I get it if you're a white male bemoaning the death of the America of your parents and railing against modernism. Trump makes you believe you can go back to working in the steel mill etc.

I'm not sure why Irish people on an Irish website would be busy arguing for him though.

He's an unstable semi-moron who believes in conspiracies. His only strong feature is tha he's a good sales/con man.