Donald Trump is the President Mark IV (Read Mod Warning in OP)

RobertKK

jobbridge4life wrote: »

You're hilarious Robert. I'm dumbfounded that you could possibly think anyone who paid even the remotest attention to your postings in this thread would be taken in by the above nonsense.

Trump has lead to a huge increase in civilian deaths.

and I did criticise that, it is on this site.

looksee

The Elizabeth Warren debate ranks with the Obama's brown suit debacle. Ye must be really stuck for something to persist in arguing about.

Captain Obvious

2 Scoops wrote: »

Why does she claim, as fact, to be Cherokee in a cookbook she wrote recipes for then? They were word for word copies from a French chef.

You'd have to ask her. As far as I am aware that was a native American recipe book and the tribe designation related to where the recipe had come from. Whether she plagiarised or not is beyond my knowledge. Not really sure what that has to do with the comment I made though.

2 Scoops

Captain Obvious wrote: »

You'd have to ask her.

I'm asking you because you said this.

Warren didn't say it was definitive

( That she was Cherokee )

She signed off in that cookbook as a Cherokee which contradicts what you said entirely.

I suppose Harvard's first Woman of colour could have misspoken, in print. That might explain it.

Captain Obvious

2 Scoops wrote: »

I'm asking you because you said this.

( That she was Cherokee )

She signed off in that cookbook as a Cherokee which contradicts what you said entirely.

I suppose Harvard's first Woman of colour could have misspoken, in print. That might explain it.

No, you misunderstood me. She didn't say the DNA test itself was definitive.

Leroy42

2 Scoops wrote: »

Terrible alright. In retaliation she should go on all the late night shows and call him mushroom cock or something.

So you have no issue with the POTUS calling a citizen of the US a horseface?
This only a week after mocking a sexual assault victim, which when asked whether it thought it right simply said he had won.
You think this is the way to behave. This is what you thought you were getting with the POTUS?

Really? We had a small debate about sexism recently on this thread and this is a clear example of it.

That you have allowed yourself to be lowered to this level is a shame. I hope you don't treat the women in your life the way that Trump deals with those in his but then you would be lying if you didn't.

This isn't about red/blue. This is pretty simple. The man owes her an apology. He has used the official communication tool of the US to publicly call out a woman for having the cheek to not bow to his power.

And yet again, if we take him at his 'word' then what does it say about him when he went off with a 'horse face' instead of being with his new son and mother who had just given birth.

2 Scoops

Leroy42 wrote: »

So you have no issue with the POTUS calling a citizen of the US a horseface?
This only a week after mocking a sexual assault victim, which when asked whether it thought it right simply said he had won.
You think this is the way to behave. This is what you thought you were getting with the POTUS?

Really? We had a small debate about sexism recently on this thread and this is a clear example of it.

That you have allowed yourself to be lowered to this level is a shame. I hope you don't treat the women in your life the way that Trump deals with those in his but then you would be lying if you didn't.

This isn't about red/blue. This is pretty simple. The man owes her an apology. He has used the official communication tool of the US to publicly call out a woman for having the cheek to not bow to his power.

And yet again, if we take him at his 'word' then what does it say about him when he went off with a 'horse face' instead of being with his new son and mother who had just given birth.

Why do you write long walls of text that ramble on and on that have a never ending amount of questions? If you want me to reply to a question then ask it in a manner that is readable. I'm not going to sit here and try to decipher whatever it is you're trying to say.

Leroy42

2 Scoops wrote: »

Why do you write long walls of text that ramble on and on that have a never ending amount of questions? If you want me to reply to a question then ask it in a manner that is readable. I'm not going to sit here and try to decipher whatever it is you're trying to say.

Sorry, I should have put it in a easily digestable soundbite to keep your interest.

I will ask the question again.

So have you no issue with the POTUS calling a citizen of the US a horseface?

2 Scoops

Leroy42 wrote: »

So have you no issue with the POTUS calling a citizen of the US a horseface?

Should he have said it? Nope, dumb move politically. I don't feel bad for her though, she has no problem making money on late night shows calling him mushroom dick.

mcmoustache

2 Scoops wrote: »

Should he have said it? Nope, dumb move politically. I don't feel bad for her though, she has no problem making money on late night shows calling him mushroom dick.

I don't think anyone feels bad for her. There's a big difference between the standards of behaviour demanded of a statesman and a porn star. They're not really or at least shouldn't be comparable.

Leroy42

2 Scoops wrote: »

Should he have said it? Nope, dumb move politically. I don't feel bad for her though, she has no problem making money on late night shows calling him mushroom dick.

So its only because it isn't good politically that you have an issue with?
Jebus, at least get some backbone and either agree or not. To not even be able to pick a side on an issue like this. You know its wrong but your support for everything Trump will not even let you tell the truth.

You have some serious issues if you think that this is in anyway the way to behave.

Would you accept somebody talking to your mother/sister/wife etc like that? This isn't some drunk bar fight, this is the man that you feel is best representative of the USA and its best hope for its future. Thus he represent you. You making excuses for him only serves to highlight your own values.

The Phantom Jipper

2 Scoops wrote: »

Should he have said it? Nope, dumb move politically. I don't feel bad for her though, she has no problem making money on late night shows calling him mushroom dick.

Did she also call him mushroom dick? I was under the impression he was only being accused of having Yeti pubes.

Danzy

Elizabeth Warren imploded her 2020 campaign, who ever advised her to make that video had a bitter grudge.

mcmoustache

The Phantom Jipper wrote: »

Did she also call him mushroom dick? I was under the impression he was only being accused of having Yeti pubes.

She did. Even Nintendo got in on the fun.

Leroy42

Danzy wrote: »

Elizabeth Warren imploded her 2020 campaign, who ever advised her to make that video had a bitter grudge.

How many times did we hear that Trump's campaign was done for because of A or B?

Come on. Its 2018. She may well not ever make it to the ticket but to try to claim that some video in 2018 finished her off is laughable.

2 Scoops

Leroy42 wrote: »

So its only because it isn't good politically that you have an issue with?
Jebus, at least get some backbone and either agree or not. To not even be able to pick a side on an issue like this. You know its wrong but your support for everything Trump will not even let you tell the truth.

You have some serious issues if you think that this is in anyway the way to behave.

Would you accept somebody talking to your mother/sister/wife etc like that? This isn't some drunk bar fight, this is the man that you feel is best representative of the USA and its best hope for its future. Thus he represent you. You making excuses for him only serves to highlight your own values.

I don't care what you or the MSNBC pundits think. I said it was a dumb move politically because it gives ammunition to his opponents. Stormy Daniels isn't a choir girl, trying to equate her with a family member is not only idiotic but also insulting.

pixelburp

2 Scoops wrote: »

Should he have said it? Nope, dumb move politically. I don't feel bad for her though, she has no problem making money on late night shows calling him mushroom dick.

The problem is, this is not an isolated incident of behaviour, some politically naive move or slip. There is context here, and a long line of priors. Trump trash talks all the time, to varying, extreme degrees of crudity, insult and childishness we wouldn't expect of a grown adult, nevermind a President. It may seem old fashioned but it's not asking much that an elected rep. behave with some semblance of dignity. The classy thing here was to say nothing, not use a term from the schoolyard. It's not partisan to still expect standards or that the US president can resist insulting a pornstar.

2 Scoops

pixelburp wrote: »

The classy thing here was to say nothing, not use a term from the schoolyard. It's not partisan to still expect standards or that the US president can resist insulting a pornstar.

I agree.

mcmoustache

Maybe my political compass is out of whack but the odd time that I watch MSNBC, there are a lot of conservative hosts and contributors on it. Admittedly, these were pre-Trump conservatives - people who were conservatives for decades before Trump "became" a conservative. Rule of Law, fiscal responsibility, personal integrity, family values types. It's funny how these people are now labelled liberals just because they didn't get behind Trump.

Kermit.de.frog

2 Scoops wrote: »

she has no problem making money on late night shows calling him mushroom dick.

She did! She said it looked like Mushroom Man

joe40

2 Scoops wrote: »

Leroy42 wrote: »

So its only because it isn't good politically that you have an issue with?
Jebus, at least get some backbone and either agree or not. To not even be able to pick a side on an issue like this. You know its wrong but your support for everything Trump will not even let you tell the truth.

You have some serious issues if you think that this is in anyway the way to behave.

Would you accept somebody talking to your mother/sister/wife etc like that? This isn't some drunk bar fight, this is the man that you feel is best representative of the USA and its best hope for its future. Thus he represent you. You making excuses for him only serves to highlight your own values.

I don't care what you or the MSNBC pundits think. I said it was a dumb move politically because it gives ammunition to his opponents. Stormy Daniels isn't a choir girl, trying to equate her with a family member is not only idiotic but also insulting.

Trump is the one who cheated on his wife, but Stormy Daniels is the one whose morals are called into question?
Strange set of standards.

Danzy

Leroy42 wrote: »

How many times did we hear that Trump's campaign was done for because of A or B?

Come on. Its 2018. She may well not ever make it to the ticket but to try to claim that some video in 2018 finished her off is laughable.

Ahh this was a thing a councillor here or a mayor of a town with 500 people wouldn't do.

Warren isn't new at this.

Dan Quayle didn't even do this.


Fair point maybe it is not a game changer for her but she will work hard to fix it.

Ultimately she was a harmless contender anyway, this just confirms that.

Her credability as a candidate was low anyway, did not take much to confirm that and she over delivered.

mcmoustache

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

She did! She said it looked like Mushroom Man

And nintendo had some fun with it.



https://twitter.com/nintendolife/status/1042118244239400960

TomOnBoard

2 Scoops wrote: »

Terrible alright. In retaliation she should go on all the late night shows and call him mushroom cock or something.

I haven't seen evidence of Stormy calling Trump anything pejorative. What names has she called him?

She has written or said that Trump has a dick that reminds her of a mushroom- headed character. Now, as I believe that he and she did have a full-blown sexual encounter, I must rely on her description of his member as I have no personal knowledge to the contrary. I also note that Melania, Ivana or any of the many others who would know of this peculiarity has not offered any denial of Stormy's characterisation.

While she has not resorted to name-calling (which is one of the most pathetic, childish ways of characterising another person), Trump does it aaallllll the time....

So, no, I don't expect Stormy to start name- calling on the late night shows....

Now, Michael Avenatti on the other hand..... STAND-BY and HOLD ONTO YOUR HAT, I'd say!!!

Oh, and BTW, neither Stormy nor Avenatti are currently the POTUS! Make of that what you will...

2 Scoops

joe40 wrote: »

Trump is the one who cheated on his wife, but Stormy Daniels is the one whose morals are called into question?
Strange set of standards.

Where did I say it was OK morally for Trump to cheat on his wife? A question was asked and I said it was a dumb move politically to insult her.

Don't twist what I said.

2 Scoops

mcmoustache wrote: »

And nintendo had some fun with it.

AFAIK, that's not an official Nintendo affiliate. It's some UK lad running a website. Source; I'm a huge Nintendo nerd.

everlast75

This just in - "Trump behaves like an utter A-hole yet again".

His supporters will say he was provoked, or it's fair game.

The rest of us however will see this as another low point in the sh1tshow that is the dumpster-fire Trump has reduced the presidency to.

joe40

2 Scoops wrote: »

joe40 wrote: »

Trump is the one who cheated on his wife, but Stormy Daniels is the one whose morals are called into question?
Strange set of standards.

Where did I say it was OK morally for Trump to cheat on his wife? A question was asked and I said it was a dumb move politically to insult her.

Don't twist what I said.

Why was it relevant to say that "stormy Daniels wasn't a choir girl" That is calling her moral standing into question. But at the same time ignoring the behaviour of trump in terms of cheating on his wife.

That is the point I was making.

Professor Moriarty

TomOnBoard wrote: »

I haven't seen evidence of Stormy calling Trump anything pejorative. What names has she called him?

She has written or said that Trump has a dick that reminds her of a mushroom- headed character. Now, as I believe that he and she did have a full-blown sexual encounter, I must rely on her description of his member as I have no personal knowledge to the contrary. I also note that Melania, Ivana or any of the many others who would know of this peculiarity has not offered any denial of Stormy's characterisation.

While she has not resorted to name-calling (which is one of the most pathetic, childish ways of characterising another person), Trump does it aaallllll the time....

So, no, I don't expect Stormy to start name- calling on the late night shows....

Now, Michael Avenatti on the other hand..... STAND-BY and HOLD ONTO YOUR HAT, I'd say!!!

Oh, and BTW, neither Stormy nor Avenatti are currently the POTUS! Make of that what you will...

She called him 'Tiny' in a tweet today. Maybe it's just a playful and affectionate name because he is such a big man.

BTW, this is her latest tweet:
Quick question: if you’re afraid of Haitians bringing AIDS into the country, why are you having sex with pornstars?

batgoat

2 Scoops wrote: »

I don't care what you or the MSNBC pundits think. I said it was a dumb move politically because it gives ammunition to his opponents. Stormy Daniels isn't a choir girl, trying to equate her with a family member is not only idiotic but also insulting.

Except this is just one of many people he attacks in public or via twitter. Eg Blasey Ford a few weeks back where he mocked her and implied she was lying. This is his weekly behaviour... So far, Daniels seems far classier than him, I didn't see her mocking a person over their recollection of a rape attempt.