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Wegians89 · 27-11-2018 3:53pm

Does penny leap frog connors in the pecking order at 7? Could one of the 7s be converted to a 6/7 ?

Squidgy Black · 27-11-2018 4:02pm

Wegians89 wrote: »

Does penny leap frog connors in the pecking order at 7? Could one of the 7s be converted to a 6/7 ?

He did his ACL back in August so it's difficult to say.

stephen_n · 27-11-2018 4:05pm

Wegians89 wrote: »

Does penny leap frog connors in the pecking order at 7? Could one of the 7s be converted to a 6/7 ?

Neither Penny or Connors are big enough to play 6. It’s impossible to say that Penny has gone ahead of Connors, till they are both fit at the same time and the three players ahead of them aren’t available. Had Connors been fit last Friday, I doubt very much that Penny would have played though.

sydthebeat · 27-11-2018 5:33pm

stephen_n wrote: »

Neither Penny or Connors are big enough to play 6. It’s impossible to say that Penny has gone ahead of Connors, till they are both fit at the same time and the three players ahead of them aren’t available. Had Connors been fit last Friday, I doubt very much that Penny would have played though.

6' 4" ... 102 kg will connors isnt big enough to play 6 ??

an inch taller than Peter O Mahony...
4" taller than michael hooper and 1 kg heavier.....
and at 22 he has ample time to add to his physique

i really dont think its his size that will hold him back from playing blindside.

Buer · 27-11-2018 5:35pm

Connors must have been wearing his heels the day they took those measurements. He never looked 6'4" on the pitch at all.

sydthebeat · 27-11-2018 5:45pm

Buer wrote: »

Connors must have been wearing his heels the day they took those measurements. He never looked 6'4" on the pitch at all.

Maybe he kept his scrum cap on.

Im going by ultimate rugby specs

Squidgy Black · 27-11-2018 5:48pm

Buer wrote: »

Connors must have been wearing his heels the day they took those measurements. He never looked 6'4" on the pitch at all.

Old image, but he looks to be the same height as Deegan, who's listed at 6'4 as well.

stephen_n · 27-11-2018 5:52pm

sydthebeat wrote: »

6' 4" ... 102 kg will connors isnt big enough to play 6 ??

an inch taller than Peter O Mahony...
4" taller than michael hooper and 1 kg heavier.....
and at 22 he has ample time to add to his physique

i really dont think its his size that will hold him back from playing blindside.

I find those stats very hard to believe after seeing him in the flesh.

Though Leinster have him listed at that size too, so yes he is big enough to play 6.

Wegians89 · 27-11-2018 6:37pm

Forgot about connors injury, still seems to be more hype around penny than there was with connors

Serbian · 27-11-2018 6:49pm

Wegians89 wrote: »

Forgot about connors injury, still seems to be more hype around penny than there was with connors

I think much of that is recent, coming from his form in the Celtic Cup. He scored a rake of tries (8 in 7 games I think) and generally looked to be a step above that level. All I had heard about him prior to the Celtic Cup was that he was a stocky lad for his age.

Dubinusa · 27-11-2018 6:58pm

Connors was awesome for the u20s. Looked like a good quick 7 with soft hands. I think he was also used as a line out jumper too?
Anyway, hyping youngsters is great and all, but they don't always turn out to be very good . Dardis is the biggest example, thought he would have cast handsome Rob off into the abyss, a Las he went belly up.
That being said, penny looks an exciting prospect.

The Lost Sheep · 27-11-2018 7:06pm

Dubinusa wrote: »

Connors was awesome for the u20s. Looked like a good quick 7 with soft hands. I think he was also used as a line out jumper too?
Anyway, hyping youngsters is great and all, but they don't always turn out to be very good . Dardis is the biggest example, thought he would have cast handsome Rob off into the abyss, a Las he went belly up.
That being said, penny looks an exciting prospect.

Yes we hype too many kids up based on schools/underage/under 20s but then we disregard some far too much as well. Dardis didnt meet the hype but will still do well through 7s and is captain of them as they attempt make world series/Olympics....
which is very good.

joseywhales · 27-11-2018 7:27pm

It's like the Tiny Toon Adventures

Squidgy Black · 27-11-2018 8:07pm

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Yes we hype too many kids up based on schools/underage/under 20s but then we disregard some far too much as well. Dardis didnt meet the hype but will still do well through 7s and is captain of them as they attempt make world series/Olympics....
which is very good.

Dardis is an outstanding 7s players. Definitely wouldn't consider him a 'flop' or anything like that, he just went a different direction.

irishbucsfan · 27-11-2018 8:12pm

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Dardis is an outstanding 7s players. Definitely wouldn't consider him a 'flop' or anything like that, he just went a different direction.

He absolutely didn’t meet the hype however. Tony Ward talking ****e

The Lost Sheep · 27-11-2018 8:16pm

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Dardis is an outstanding 7s players. Definitely wouldn't consider him a 'flop' or anything like that, he just went a different direction.

Wouldnt call him a flop by any means. He went a different direction but didnt meet all the hype either. Some in media, Ward and few others way they went on about him playing schools f... cup you would have thought it was without question he would have got 50 caps for the national team

Squidgy Black · 27-11-2018 8:51pm

irishbucsfan wrote: »

He absolutely didn’t meet the hype however. Tony Ward talking ****e

Ah yeah but can you imagine our starting 15 if we listened to Tony Ward?

Just don't think it's fair to say he "went belly up" when he's still playing rugby to a high standard, albeit 7s and not 15s.

Interested Observer · 27-11-2018 9:56pm

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Ah yeah but can you imagine our starting 15 if we listened to Tony Ward?

10. Tony Ward

Dubinusa · 28-11-2018 6:44pm

Anybody read the article on Josh Murphy? The lad has a bright future. I think it's in the indo.

cameramonkey · 28-11-2018 8:00pm

Dubinusa wrote: »

Anybody read the article on Josh Murphy? The lad has a bright future. I think it's in the indo.

He has a bright future in the Indo, you think.

Dubinusa · 28-11-2018 8:32pm

No. As a doctor. It was in the 42.

durthacht · 28-11-2018 9:02pm

Dubinusa wrote: »

Anybody read the article on Josh Murphy? The lad has a bright future. I think it's in the indo.

Very impressive bloke and extraordinary how he can combine being a full time top level athlete with being a medical student.

I feel sorry enough for myself having just one job.

thomond2006 · 29-11-2018 11:23am

https://www.bathrugby.com/team-news/injury-update-1

Bath's latest injury report.

Buer · 29-11-2018 11:29am

thomond2006 wrote: »

https://www.bathrugby.com/team-news/injury-update-1

Bath's latest injury report.

Nasty injury list for them to be coping with but it's starting to clear. Fortunately for Leinster, I see the double header as coming a fraction too soon for them.

I don't see how Joseph could be involved in the game in The Rec after 8 months out. He's in full training though so could well feature from the bench. Faletau has come back from injury superbly in the past but I would see him as featuring in Dublin at best where hopefully Leinster will have some of their own players back.

Freddie Burns also copped an injury for them and will probably miss this weekend but likely to be back for Leinster. If they had Burns and Priestland out, they'd be in real difficulty.

Hopefully, Leinster's own injury issues clear up rapidly. Looking decidedly short in the back row and midfield right now with ROL, Leavy, SOB, Conan, Tomane and Henshaw all being absent of late.

Rigor Mortis · 29-11-2018 11:35am

thomond2006 wrote: »

https://www.bathrugby.com/team-news/injury-update-1

Bath's latest injury report.

The complete lack of the phrase 'a week to soon' shows the rampant unprofessionalism at the heart of Premiership Rugby. I'd expect nothing more from Bruce Craig.

Amateurs!

29-11-2018 11:42am

Buer wrote: »

Nasty injury list for them to be coping with but it's starting to clear. Fortunately for Leinster, I see the double header as coming a fraction too soon for them.

I don't see how Joseph could be involved in the game in The Rec after 8 months out. Faletau has come back from injury superbly in the past but I would see him as featuring in Dublin at best where hopefully Leinster will have some of their own players back.

Hopefully, Leinster's own injury issues clear up rapidly. Looking decidedly short in the back row and midfield right now with ROL, Leavy, SOB, Conan, Tomane and Henshaw all being absent of late.

I think the rapid inclusion of some of those due back in December will probably only happen if Bath win at home. If Leinster win away in the first game I doubt they'll rush anyone back for the second fixture.

We're not as bad in the back row when you consider Fardy can slot in at 6. The IRFU apparently didn't allow him play there in the pro14 but didn't stand in the way for Europe so I'd expect the same to apply this year.

Leavy VDF Ruddock could be our back row for the away game. Alternatively could see Fardy VDF Ruddock if Leavy is still injured. The inclusion of Fardy takes the edge off, but I think I'd like to see one of the younger guys come through for this game.

Could well see Doris, Deegan or Josh Murphy come onto the bench.

Granny15 · 29-11-2018 11:48am

thomond2006 wrote: »

https://www.bathrugby.com/team-news/injury-update-1

Bath's latest injury report.

That's a smooth looking website. Pity Leinster can't have one as functional and used as often for updates

29-11-2018 11:56am

Granny15 wrote: »

That's a smooth looking website. Pity Leinster can't have one as functional and used as often for updates

Good website. Average team.

Think I prefer the way Leinster do it

degsie · 29-11-2018 12:12pm

Dubinusa wrote: »

No. As a doctor. It was in the 42.

Woooosh..

Burkie1203 · 29-11-2018 5:37pm

https://twitter.com/eirSport/status/1067891490909822985?s=19

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