Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread X: [****]

Podge_irl

Kinda surprised Fardy isn't named - would seem like the obvious candidate to lead such a callow squad.

arsebiscuits1

KH25 wrote: »

Frawley has a serious boot on him. His kicks seem to be very powerful.

Hasn't missed a kick yet this season...

To be fair he has only taken 10 kicks. But some of them were tricky enough

stephen_n

Creche game, still should get a BP win here.

Buer

awec wrote: »

Sometimes you’d almost wonder if there is communication between Ulster and Leinster during the week about how strong a team they are each going to select.

If that was the case, I'd expect Ulster to field a side on par with Leinster's and start guys like Best, Henderson and Stockdale.

Rigor Mortis

Delighted with that team.
With Japan this year we need to build depth if we are to avoid a repeat of 2015/16. Given the lead we have, i'd be very happy to have the remaining pro14 games used to blood as many single digit capped players as possible. The likes of Frawley, Deegan, Penny, Doris, Daly and O'Brien(s) are going to be key next year. As long as we do it in a way that they are supported by some key experienced pillars. Kearney(s), JGP, Moloney, Cronin and Reid have more than enough mileage to guide the rest.

awec

Buer wrote: »

If that was the case, I'd expect Ulster to field a side on par with Leinster's and start guys like Best, Henderson and Stockdale.

Cheeky.

There’s no way there’s not collusion going on with these selections. It’s a bit farcical tbh.

troyzer

awec wrote: »

Buer wrote: »

If that was the case, I'd expect Ulster to field a side on par with Leinster's and start guys like Best, Henderson and Stockdale.

Cheeky.

There’s no way there’s not collusion going on with these selections. It’s a bit farcical tbh.

thomond2006

awec wrote: »

Cheeky.

There’s no way there’s not collusion going on with these selections. It’s a bit farcical tbh.

It drives the W*lsh crazies nuts on social media. It's worth it.

awec

thomond2006 wrote: »

It drives the W*lsh crazies nuts on social media. It's worth it.

The Welsh have a valid complaint to be honest.

AdamD

This is not a good look for a sold out game

thomond2006

awec wrote: »

The Welsh have a valid complaint to be honest.

If there was collusion then Connacht vs Munster would have shadow squads too. Both teams are going for it.

I do think having three consecutive interpro weekends is overkill.

stephen_n

awec wrote: »

Cheeky.

There’s no way there’s not collusion going on with these selections. It’s a bit farcical tbh.

r

Or else it’s just a natural Segway for provinces to rest players. Leinster did the same against Connacht and they came nearly full strength.

awec

thomond2006 wrote: »

If there was collusion then Connacht vs Munster would have shadow squads too. Both teams are going for it.

I do think having three consecutive interpro weekends is overkill.

No, the point is that it’s curious that when provinces are playing each other they always seem to either select strong or weak sides. Now, it could be one huge coincidence, but seems too unlikely to me.

I think everyone expected a much stronger Leinster side. But then Ulster select a very weak team and curiously enough, Leinster happen to select a very weak team by their standards as well.

If Ulster had went full strength then I’ve no doubt there’d be more first team players in the Leinster side as well.

The welsh moan a lot but they’ve a valid complaint when it comes to this bollocks.

Serbian

If it is Rob Kearney being moved on after this season, it makes Carbery's move to Munster all the more infuriating. He would be that natural long term successor at full back for us in my opinion, and is only really being looked at as the back up 10 because of the loss of Paddy Jackson.

On the plus side, in the unlikely event we were ever to convince him to come back, the main requirement would be that there's a place for him in our first 15. With the full-back slot potentially open, I wonder would he be interested?

AdamD

Serbian wrote: »

If it is Rob Kearney being moved on after this season, it makes Carbery's move to Munster all the more infuriating. He would be that natural long term successor at full back for us in my opinion, and is only really being looked at as the back up 10 because of the loss of Paddy Jackson.

On the plus side, in the unlikely event we were ever to convince him to come back, the main requirement would be that there's a place for him in our first 15. With the full-back slot potentially open, I wonder would he be interested?

Surely Larmour is our long term full back.

Squidgy Black

There's also a good chance Joey wants to play 10 over 15.

Serbian

AdamD wrote: »

Surely Larmour is our long term full back.

He probably is now, but wouldn't have been had Carbery been kept on. I'd personally prefer Lowe and Larmour on the wings, but it's not to be

Squidgy Black wrote: »

There's also a good chance Joey wants to play 10 over 15.

Yeah, that's a fair point. To look at it from that angle, I suppose many a 10/15 have fallen by the wayside by alternating between the two positions and becoming a utility player rather than a specialist.

troyzer

AdamD wrote: »

Serbian wrote: »

If it is Rob Kearney being moved on after this season, it makes Carbery's move to Munster all the more infuriating. He would be that natural long term successor at full back for us in my opinion, and is only really being looked at as the back up 10 because of the loss of Paddy Jackson.

On the plus side, in the unlikely event we were ever to convince him to come back, the main requirement would be that there's a place for him in our first 15. With the full-back slot potentially open, I wonder would he be interested?

Surely Larmour is our long term full back.

I think he's a better winger.

Fullback suits his attacking strengths better and while his defensive game can of course come along in time, I'm always nervous when teams drop bombs on him. He's very short for a full back.

My dream Leinster back line is Lowe at 11, Larmour at 14 and Carbery at 15.

That's just pure filth.

And Carbery's experiment in Munster would hardly go to waste, we know he's a serviceable 10 in an emergency, it's just not the best place to exploit his talents.

Former Former

I think it was obvious that Ulster were always going to send a weakened team having gone full strength(ish) against both Munster and Connacht. That gave Leinster the option to do likewise, I don't know if I'd call that collusion but it definitely devalues the game a bit.

Leinster probably have to rest as many players as possible this week as possible because we're down to the bare bones for Europe. Any more injuries or suspensions and we're f**ked.

Sangre

Hopefully Deegan can stand out in this game. The season has passed him by a bit with Doris getting a lot of game time but I thought Deegan was very good against Connacht when he came on (and Doris played liked the inexperienced player he is).

Burkie1203

arsebiscuits1 wrote: »

Kelleher would be a very unusual signing and if true it means the door is being shown to at least one back 3 player.

Dave Kearney is out out of contract and 30 years old end of this season. He'd get a decent chuck in England I'd say.

While Ferg has shown last season some of the best form of his career. The irrefutable thing is he will be 33 next year and has problematic hamstrings. Might be a succession plan

It looks like long term plan. NIQs not really an option with Lowe and Tomane there

Kearney x 2 and Ferg age profiles from next season aren't great.

jonok28

Burkie1203 wrote: »

It looks like long term plan. NIQs not really an option with Lowe and Tomane there

Kearney x 2 and Ferg age profiles from next season aren't great.

Tomane has a Samoan passport which means he would not be considered a ‘non-European player. This is part of the Cotonou Trade Agreement, which provides exemptions for those from South Africa and the South Sea islands.

Plus Lowe and JGP will be Irish qualified in 12 months. So I wouldn't be surprised if Leinster bring someone in over the next year or so.

errlloyd

jonok28 wrote: »

Tomane has a Samoan passport which means he would not be considered a ‘non-European player. This is part of the Cotonou Trade Agreement, which provides exemptions for those from South Africa and the South Sea islands.

Plus Lowe and JGP will be Irish qualified in 12 months. So I wouldn't be surprised if Leinster bring someone in over the next year or so.

Lowe won't be IQ for another 20 months, and that poster's point was the IRFU won't let us have several NIQs in the same position.

Burkie1203

jonok28 wrote: »

Tomane has a Samoan passport which means he would not be considered a ‘non-European player. This is part of the Cotonou Trade Agreement, which provides exemptions for those from South Africa and the South Sea islands.

Plus Lowe and JGP will be Irish qualified in 12 months. So I wouldn't be surprised if Leinster bring someone in over the next year or so.

Tomane would still be NIQ. Which is different to the non European thing
Lowe has a further 20 months to go too. He only arrived in November 2017.

Next summer, with two NIQs on the books Leinster won't be allowed sign another NIQ back 3 player. So assuming there is going to be movement out the door then Kelleher signing makes sense. Unless he is just trying to force Connacht to bump up their offer

troyzer

Burkie1203 wrote: »

jonok28 wrote: »

Tomane has a Samoan passport which means he would not be considered a ‘non-European player. This is part of the Cotonou Trade Agreement, which provides exemptions for those from South Africa and the South Sea islands.

Plus Lowe and JGP will be Irish qualified in 12 months. So I wouldn't be surprised if Leinster bring someone in over the next year or so.

Tomane would still be NIQ. Which is different to the non European thing
Lowe has a further 20 months to go too. He only arrived in November 2017.

Next summer, with two NIQs on the books Leinster won't be allowed sign another NIQ back 3 player. So assuming there is going to be movement out the door then Kelleher signing makes sense. Unless he is just trying to force Connacht to bump up their offer

Or it's all bollocks. Not unheard of from the Independent.

Burkie1203

troyzer wrote: »

Or it's all bollocks. Not unheard of from the Independent.

Read the last sentence you quoted

troyzer

Burkie1203 wrote: »

troyzer wrote: »

Or it's all bollocks. Not unheard of from the Independent.

Read the last sentence you quoted

No I mean even that could be bollocks.

The whole thing could be just completely made up.

Burkie1203

troyzer wrote: »

No I mean even that could be bollocks.

The whole thing could be just completely made up.

Agents will always drip feed a story like this whether it's true or false. It's good for the negotiations.

He either is returning or his agent wants that rextra bit of bargaining power to Get best deal possible from connacht done ASAP

troyzer

Burkie1203 wrote: »

troyzer wrote: »

No I mean even that could be bollocks.

The whole thing could be just completely made up.

Agents will always drip feed a story like this whether it's true or false. It's good for the negotiations.

He either is returning or his agent wants that rextra bit of bargaining power to Get best deal possible from connacht done ASAP

Or the Independent are making it up.

Former Former

troyzer wrote: »

Or the Independent are making it up.

A Dublin native and product of the Leinster academy thinking about a return home to the best club in Europe. It's not an outlandish prospect like.