Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread X: [****]

troyzer

Dubinusa wrote: »

I assume Leavy will be back in the line up for the next match?
Penny has been released to the u20's and there's no other 7?

Yeah, I brought this up a few weeks ago. I have no idea what's going to happen.

Dowling was wearing the 20 jersey against Scarlets just for context.

foxyladyxx

Stheno wrote: »

That must be the quickest ever?

Sold out in 3 hours. .Didn't get any :mad:

D14Rugby

A few AIL players have been in training with the squad recently, imagine one of them will be involved somehow

CatFromHue

Is the Ulster QF game sold out? there's no tickets available on ticketmaster

troyzer

CatFromHue wrote: »

Is the Ulster QF game sold out? there's no tickets available on ticketmaster

Sold out in two hours.

Sheep Shagger

The clubs have until Friday to sell their ticket allocation so you might see some returns next week.

This is my local club, they seem to be selling to both members and non members (incl a bus ride if required).

https://pay.easypaymentsplus.com/feepay1v2.aspx?id=883

salmocab

Sheep Shagger wrote: »

The clubs have until Friday to sell their ticket allocation so you might see some returns next week.

This is my local club, they seem to be selling to both members and non members (incl a bus ride if required).

https://pay.easypaymentsplus.com/feepay1v2.aspx?id=883

Yeah my club is doing busses down. It’s cheap way to bring a couple of kids along. Think we’re talking of a few hundred so there must be a big hold back by Leinster for these. So a few more may be released once that’s all sorted, although with the game being sold out some people may take the clubs offers up that mightn’t have otherwise.

Clegg

Leinster's next game is on the 16th against Zebre. I'd guess that if Leavy is even half fit he'll be called in to start and then whisked away to Ireland camp right after.

VdF didn't play poorly yesterday but Leavy has greater impact at the ruck and is just a stronger man. We were blown away by England's physicality.

troyzer

Clegg wrote: »

Leinster's next game is on the 16th against Zebre. I'd guess that if Leavy is even half fit he'll be called in to start and then whisked away to Ireland camp right after.

VdF didn't play poorly yesterday but Leavy has greater impact at the ruck and is just a stronger man. We were blown away by England's physicality.

I can see SOB ripping back the 7 jersey and not giving it back. He looked like he was ramping back to his old self against Wasps and was decent in his cameo on Saturday.

Clegg

troyzer wrote: »

Clegg wrote: »

Leinster's next game is on the 16th against Zebre. I'd guess that if Leavy is even half fit he'll be called in to start and then whisked away to Ireland camp right after.

VdF didn't play poorly yesterday but Leavy has greater impact at the ruck and is just a stronger man. We were blown away by England's physicality.

I can see SOB ripping back the 7 jersey and not giving it back. He looked like he was ramping back to his old self against Wasps and was decent in his cameo on Saturday.

SoB's barely played but looked decent in his appearances. But I'm not going to say he's back to his old self until he starts and has a good game against quality opposition.

Plus if Stander is confirmed to have injured himself I can see SoB going to 8. Leavy could compete with VdF for the openside position.

troyzer

Clegg wrote: »

troyzer wrote: »

Clegg wrote: »

Leinster's next game is on the 16th against Zebre. I'd guess that if Leavy is even half fit he'll be called in to start and then whisked away to Ireland camp right after.

VdF didn't play poorly yesterday but Leavy has greater impact at the ruck and is just a stronger man. We were blown away by England's physicality.

I can see SOB ripping back the 7 jersey and not giving it back. He looked like he was ramping back to his old self against Wasps and was decent in his cameo on Saturday.

SoB's barely played but looked decent in his appearances. But I'm not going to say he's back to his old self until he starts and has a good game against quality opposition.

Plus if Stander is confirmed to have injured himself I can see SoB going to 8. Leavy could compete with VdF for the openside position.

I don't think he's back to his old self either but if he continues the trend and gets a few more games he'll be there or there abouts.

SOB is a decent 8 but surely you'd want a specialist there? Conan was showing some great form before he got injured.

foxyladyxx

Sheep Shagger wrote: »

The clubs have until Friday to sell their ticket allocation so you might see some returns next week.

This is my local club, they seem to be selling to both members and non members (incl a bus ride if required).

https://pay.easypaymentsplus.com/feepay1v2.aspx?id=883

Woohoo. Thanks a million. Got two tickets. That is awesome.

The only thing I have left to look forward to this season is Leinster winning the Heineken Cup now that our national team were hammered on Saturday by England

Still not over that beating.

Richie_Rich89

Barry Daly for Ireland!

He needs to shore up his ball security, but he's a really good defender, which is what you need in a right wing.

I'd like to see him as first choice 14 for Leinster anyway.

troyzer

Richie_Rich89 wrote: »

Barry Daly for Ireland!

He needs to shore up his ball security, but he's a really good defender, which is what you need in a right wing.

I'd like to see him as first choice 14 for Leinster anyway.

First choice winger ahead of Larmour or Lowe?

What are you smoking?

Richie_Rich89

troyzer wrote: »

First choice winger ahead of Larmour or Lowe?

What are you smoking?

Ahead of Larmour, yes.

Lowe plays on the left wing.

troyzer

Richie_Rich89 wrote: »

troyzer wrote: »

First choice winger ahead of Larmour or Lowe?

What are you smoking?

Ahead of Larmour, yes.

Lowe plays on the left wing.

You're insane if you think Barry Daly is better than Larmour. I'd start Byrne, McFadden and possibly even Tomane when he's up to speed over Daly.

Daly is a quality squad player but he's not even close to some of the internationals in front of him.

Richie_Rich89

troyzer wrote: »

You're insane if you think Barry Daly is better than Larmour. I'd start Byrne, McFadden and possibly even Tomane when he's up to speed over Daly.

Daly is a quality squad player but he's not even close to some of the internationals in front of him.

I like Daly's defence. He reads the play well and can come in with momentum-stopping tackles. If Byrne was as good a defender as Daly he'd be some player. McFadden doesn't have the athleticism or speed of Daly. Larmour's a talent, but is he a wing or a fullback?

I can see Daly going places if he gets a run of games in big games

Richie_Rich89

Needs to work on not losing the ball though. He lost it twice against the Scarlets, and threw another loose pass to an opposition player. You could get away with maybe one incident like that, but three is too loose

arsebiscuits1

troyzer wrote: »

You're insane if you think Barry Daly is better than Larmour. I'd start Byrne, McFadden and possibly even Tomane when he's up to speed over Daly.

Daly is a quality squad player but he's not even close to some of the internationals in front of him.

I think that is actually pretty harsh on Barry.

We know he is the fastest player in the squad.

He has shown some out and out finishing ability that is really only bettered by Lowe.

He's got a very good boot on him too.

Byrne wont really get picked at 14 for the foreseeable future due to the defensive requirements of that position. Let him get up to speed and his confidence back. Also Adams biggest strength is ball retention off a box kick. All our 9s are right footed so makes the most sense to have Adam on the left touch line for reclaiming those.

McFadden is in his 30s and has had 2 recent bad hamstring injuries. Combine this with the fact he was never the quickest bloke anyway and I think there is scope for him to get overtaken.

Tomane is internationally capped and a pretty good winger but that's not to say Daly can't get ahead of him.

There were times last season when Daly was there or there abouts first choice and rightly so

PhlegmyMoses

Sheep Shagger wrote: »

The clubs have until Friday to sell their ticket allocation so you might see some returns next week.

This is my local club, they seem to be selling to both members and non members (incl a bus ride if required).

https://pay.easypaymentsplus.com/feepay1v2.aspx?id=883

Seem to have gotten sorted here, cheers mate. Probably in the nose bleeds but not going to complain too much after my dilly dallying last week screwed me over.

Faugheen

arsebiscuits1 wrote: »

Byrne wont really get picked at 14 for the foreseeable future due to the defensive requirements of that position. Let him get up to speed and his confidence back. Also Adams biggest strength is ball retention off a box kick. All our 9s are right footed so makes the most sense to have Adam on the left touch line for reclaiming those.

The same Adam Byrne whose form at 14 has seen him invited back to Ireland camps?

Byrne's been excellent this season. Him, Lowe and Larmour are the top three wingers. I like Daly but he's good in his role as a squad player who can come in and get the job done, but there's no doubt the other three are ahead of him in the pecking order at the moment.

His confidence is just fine and he's looked better defensively too. Still has work to do, of course, but a fit and on form Adam Byrne is a much better player than Daly.

arsebiscuits1

Faugheen wrote: »

The same Adam Byrne whose form at 14 has seen him invited back to Ireland camps?

Byrne's been excellent this season. Him, Lowe and Larmour are the top three wingers. I like Daly but he's good in his role as a squad player who can come in and get the job done, but there's no doubt the other three are ahead of him in the pecking order at the moment.

Hmm you're right there actually. All of his appearances have been at 14 this season. For some reason I thought there were mostly on the left wing.

In any case. I think Daly with a good run of fitness (something he has unfortunately lacked) can force himself into first choice reckoning.

His strike rate is excellent. His speed and size and the physicality that comes with it are excellent assets to have.

I'm not disregarding the likes of Adam Byrne who gets too much stick for his defensive game. I just rate Daly a lot

FellasFellas

troyzer wrote: »

You're insane if you think Barry Daly is better than Larmour. I'd start Byrne, McFadden and possibly even Tomane when he's up to speed over Daly.

Daly is a quality squad player but he's not even close to some of the internationals in front of him.

I'd have Daly in front of all 3 tbh. Daly was going to be capped ahead of Byrne in 2017 but got injured at the wrong time and that is a fact. He got injured again this year at the wrong time, he's been very unlucky. He was top try scorer last season in the whole tournament?

Buer

If Daly had not been injured, I firmly believe he'd be in the mix for a call up and probably would have been in a squad at this point. You only have to watch how rounded he is when he plays. It really does make me wonder why he wasn't involved from a younger age. He has real pace, good hands (see the grounding against Scarlets and spectacular catch and try last season against Cardiff) and is solid under the high ball.

There are very few gaps in his game. I suppose I haven't seen him link up too much with others and offer a creative option unlike someone like Byrne who can draw people in and offload but generally, he's a very tidy player. His composure and decision making in defence is what makes him stand out most for me, even moreso than his try scoring record.

Former Former

Daly is a very good player but most of his appearances have been below the really top level of club rugby. I don't know if he's ever started for us in a European match? So it's hard to put him into the proper context, but he certainly does a great job whenever he's called upon.

Personally, I'd rate him ahead of Byrne but behind the other capped internationals. As Buer says, it's a pity he didn't get involved at an earlier age.

Edit: yes, he's started two Euro games, both last season

Buer

Former Former wrote: »

Edit: yes, he's started two Euro games, both last season

He copped an injury in the second start that kept him out for a couple of months. It was the week that the Irish squad was due to be named and he had started the opening two European matches ahead of Adam Byrne and DK.

By the time he got back, Adam Byrne had been capped, James Lowe had arrived and Jordan Larmour had exploded. Pretty unfortunate for him.

errlloyd

Buer wrote: »

He copped an injury in the second start that kept him out for a couple of months. It was the week that the Irish squad was due to be named and he had started the opening two European matches ahead of Adam Byrne and DK.

By the time he got back, Adam Byrne had been capped, James Lowe had arrived and Jordan Larmour had exploded. Pretty unfortunate for him.

Particularly because we had been crying out for an out and out speeder for so long. The boy has gas!

I agree with others, it's a shame he didn't start earlier. I think he's the same age as his English namesake.

Interested Observer

Buer wrote: »

If Daly had not been injured, I firmly believe he'd be in the mix for a call up and probably would have been in a squad at this point. You only have to watch how rounded he is when he plays. It really does make me wonder why he wasn't involved from a younger age. He has real pace, good hands (see the grounding against Scarlets and spectacular catch and try last season against Cardiff) and is solid under the high ball.

There are very few gaps in his game. I suppose I haven't seen him link up too much with others and offer a creative option unlike someone like Byrne who can draw people in and offload but generally, he's a very tidy player. His composure and decision making in defence is what makes him stand out most for me, even moreso than his try scoring record.

I'm pretty sure he was involved at younger age but got cut from the academy, kept going in the AIL and eventually made it back to Leinster. I think he's an excellent player.

Richie_Rich89

Former Former wrote: »

Daly is a very good player but most of his appearances have been below the really top level of club rugby. I don't know if he's ever started for us in a European match? So it's hard to put him into the proper context, but he certainly does a great job whenever he's called upon.

Personally, I'd rate him ahead of Byrne but behind the other capped internationals. As Buer says, it's a pity he didn't get involved at an earlier age.

Edit: yes, he's started two Euro games, both last season

He was excellent against Montpellier. Close to being MOtM, in my estimation

Former Former

Brendan Fanning has tweeted that Noel Reid is moving to Leicester. No great surprise but still a shame, he's dug us out of some big holes this season and would still be a great player to have around.