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Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread X: [****]

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    #692
    Dubinusa
    Registered Users Posts: 8,557 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    It'd be great if A Byrne gets going early. He really needs a good start to the campaign.
    Very surprised that Deegan didn't get the call! Doris must be flying in training.
    Decent team, hopefully they perform and win.


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    #693
    Dubinusa
    Registered Users Posts: 8,557 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    The amount of caps won by Treacy is low? At 28 years old, I would have expected a lot more.


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    #694
    molloyjh
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    Dubinusa wrote: »
    The amount of caps won by Treacy is low? At 28 years old, I would have expected a lot more.

    He was a loosehead originally and converted to a hooker, so he lost a chunk of time there. And then he's been in squads with Cronin, Strauss and Bryan Byrne so has had a decent bit of competition.


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    #695
    Dubinusa
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    Didn't know he was a lh. Hope he has a big year.


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    #696
    arsebiscuits1
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    McCarthy has broken his wrist... ****.

    That'll complicate things. Will have to choose between Lowe and Fardy for the next few games
    http://www.the42.ie/nick-mccarthy-leinster-broken-wrist-4204968-Aug2018/


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    #697
    armchaircoach
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    I suspect there will be only one winner in that head to head.

    The gap between Lowe and the next best back is nowhere near as vast as the gap between Fardy and the backup locks.


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    #698
    DonVito
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    That is terrible news for McCarthy. There was already going to be a fire coming up from behind him with Hugh O'Sullivan. Now that he's going to be out injured, I find it hard not to think his place as 3rd choice is under serious threat.

    That said, there's always a silver lining with these things. O'Sullivan has a lot of potential and it will be good to see him collect valuable minutes.


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    #699
    Larbre34
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    This is very, very poor planning. There should be at least one more layer of Irish qual'd cover before this becomes a possibility. Now it has occurred twice in 5 months.

    Im assuming we want to hang on to James Lowe for the foreseeable and I'm wondering for how long he is going to tolerate being benched in full fitness for a bit of bad management / gambling?

    Are we vulnerable to this because of any other positions?


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    #700
    Clegg
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    I wouldn't call it poor planning at all. Lowe was the player we'd tracked long term but Fardy became available and we had to sign him. It was opportunism at its finest. We wouldn't have won the Champions Cup without him. The eligibility rules are a problem and it may come to pass that we can only play Lowe in home games for the next while but so be it.


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    #701
    Podge_irl
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    Larbre34 wrote: »
    This is very, very poor planning. There should be at least one more layer of Irish qual'd cover before this becomes a possibility. Now it has occurred twice in 5 months.

    Im assuming we want to hang on to James Lowe for the foreseeable and I'm wondering for how long he is going to tolerate being benched in full fitness for a bit of bad management / gambling?

    Are we vulnerable to this because of any other positions?

    He has one more season under contract after Fardy will be gone so that won't really be an issue. Pain in the bloody hoop though - its annoying that Leinster have to pick between their two best NIQs to facilitate their worst.


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    #702
    Dubinusa
    Registered Users Posts: 8,557 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    Lowe is not as vital as Fardy. Fardy is a beast and brings a lot of grit to the pack.


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    #703
    Former Former
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    This situation could so easily have been avoided. We shouldn't have signed Scott Fardy. Appalling management and shocking planning.

    That's basically what we're saying here. We should have passed on signing the guy who was one of the key players in winning the double.

    Right


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    #704
    Neil3030
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    James Lowe has had complaints with arthritis so for all we know his game time would be managed regardless of selection quotas.


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    #705
    pickarooney
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    Former Former wrote: »
    This situation could so easily have been avoided. We shouldn't have signed Scott Fardy. Appalling management and shocking planning.

    That's basically what we're saying here. We should have passed on signing the guy who was one of the key players in winning the double.

    Right

    We shouldn't have signed JGP maybe?


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    #706
    salmocab
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    pickarooney wrote: »
    We shouldn't have signed JGP maybe?

    At the time we needed someone and the kolpak thing wasn’t an issue in our squad.
    It’s a strange situation that of the 3 we now need the 3rd best probably the most but that’s just as a bench option.
    Ideally we would have signed another 9 this summer but with already having an NIQ there it would have been too much to expect another.


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    #707
    Squidgy Black
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    JGP was most definitely needed at the time.

    Cooney had signed with Connacht, Boss and Reddan had retired, McCarthy was only 2nd year academy and Rock was never really an option.


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    #708
    Neil3030
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    I just thought of a joke so bad I need to put a spoiler tag around it:
    Did you hear about the bar that didn't serve Jameson?

    He forgot his I.D.


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    #709
    [Deleted User]
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    Neil3030 wrote: »
    I just thought of a joke so bad I need to put a spoiler tag around it:
    Did you hear about the bar that didn't serve Jameson?

    He forgot his I.D.

    Leave and never come back.


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    #710
    Neil3030
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Leave and never come back.

    He went to the bar while watching a Malone match....


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    #711
    thegreycity
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    Squidgy Black wrote: »
    JGP was most definitely needed at the time.

    Cooney had signed with Connacht, Boss and Reddan had retired, McCarthy was only 2nd year academy and Rock was never really an option.

    We're still dealing with the fall-out from MOC's complete refusal to plan for the future in that regard.


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    #712
    troyzer
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    Has anybody got their season tickets yet?


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    #713
    dregin
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    troyzer wrote: »
    Has anybody got their season tickets yet?


    Nope.


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    #714
    troyzer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,200 ✭✭✭troyzer


    dregin wrote: »
    Nope.

    Leaving it a bit late aren't they? You need it to get into the Leinster women's game tonight for free.


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    #715
    arsebiscuits1
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    The whole Kolpak rule is just so frustrating.

    We've need to play our Kiwi scumhalf so one of our Australian/ New Zealand players must miss out.

    Both our Kiwi players are uncapped but subject to this rule all the while Joe Tomane (capped for Australia, born and lived in NZ until he was 3) has Islander descent so can play away with no restrictions.

    For clarity, I have no problems with Tomane. He seems a great dude and a great player and I am very glad we have him.

    Just frustrated. Let them play!


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    #716
    troyzer
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    arsebiscuits1 wrote: »
    The whole Kolpak rule is just so frustrating.

    We've need to play our Kiwi scumhalf so one of our Australian/ New Zealand players must miss out.

    Both our Kiwi players are uncapped but subject to this rule all the while Joe Tomane (capped for Australia, born and lived in NZ until he was 3) has Islander descent so can play away with no restrictions.

    For clarity, I have no problems with Tomane. He seems a great dude and a great player and I am very glad we have him.

    Just frustrated. Let them play!

    It's not the Kolpak rule you have a problem with, it's the quota rule. I'm not sure who enforces it, is it Rugby Europe? EPCR? World Rugby?

    I have no idea.


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    #717
    Former Former
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    thegreycity wrote: »
    We're still dealing with the fall-out from MOC's complete refusal to plan for the future in that regard.

    MOC sent Cooney off on loan to get more game time. Planning for the future is exactly what he was doing.


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    #718
    Buer
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    Des Berry writing in the Indo that McCarthy will be back in action in September.


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    #719
    Squidgy Black
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    arsebiscuits1 wrote: »
    The whole Kolpak rule is just so frustrating.

    We've need to play our Kiwi scumhalf so one of our Australian/ New Zealand players must miss out.

    Bit harsh on JGP he comes across as a nice enough guy to me.


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    #720
    CowGoesMoo100
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 125 ✭✭CowGoesMoo100


    Buer wrote: »
    Cardiff Blues team to face Leinster: M Morgan; J Harries, W Halaholo, R Lee-Lo, O Lane; J Evans, L Williams; B Thyer, K Dacey, D Arhip, S Davies, R Thornton, J Turnbull, E Jenkins, N Williams.

    Replacements: R Gill, E Lewis, S Andrews, G Earle, O Robinson, T Williams, S Shingler, G Smith.

    Which Wales players would be missing there? Anscombe and Navidi are the only ones I can think of off the top of my head. They missing anyone else?


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    #721
    thegreycity
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    Former Former wrote: »
    MOC sent Cooney off on loan to get more game time. Planning for the future is exactly what he was doing.

    Sending him off to Connacht for game time instead of giving him game time at Leinster is the exact reason we lost him to Connacht. How is that planning for the future? He was 24 at the time while Reddan and Boss were 33/34 respectively.

    If Cullen sent McCarthy off to Connacht on loan it would be a pretty clear message of the value they place in him.


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