Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread X: [****]

Former Former

Porter, Ruddock and Adam Byrne are back with Leinster this week so should be able send a very strong team to Zebre.

Jack McGrath back too but looks not to be training, must still be injured.

Buer

Former Former wrote: »

Porter, Ruddock and Adam Byrne are back with Leinster this week so should be able send a very strong team to Zebre.

Jack McGrath back too but looks not to be training, must still be injured.

It must be a relapse or illness as he was full contact with Ireland last week.

We should be able to send a pretty solid side to Italy. The back row will be interesting given Leavy isn't back and we haven't had SOB, VDF or Conan released. I imagine some combination of Ruddock, Murphy, Deegan and Doris will cover us. I didn't see Penny in the photos so I'm not sure if he is being released for this.

A few of the less involved academy players such as Dunne, Patterson and Aungier training with the senior panel too. Would be interesting to see if any of them are involved in the next couple of games.

scrummieman

Buer wrote: »

It must be a relapse or illness as he was full contact with Ireland last week.

We should be able to send a pretty solid side to Italy. The back row will be interesting given Leavy isn't back and we haven't had SOB, VDF or Conan released. I imagine some combination of Ruddock, Murphy, Deegan and Doris will cover us. I didn't see Penny in the photos so I'm not sure if he is being released for this.

A few of the less involved academy players such as Dunne, Patterson and Aungier training with the senior panel too. Would be interesting to see if any of them are involved in the next couple of games.

Dunne, Patterson and Aungier have been training with seniors a lot. Same with Gav Mullin and Oisin Dowling.

Tommy O'Brien, Jack Kelly and Michael Silvester are away training with Ireland 7's i'm told.

Penny went off with a knock for the 20s.

arsebiscuits1

scrummieman wrote: »

Dunne, Patterson and Aungier have been training with seniors a lot. Same with Gav Mullin and Oisin Dowling.

Tommy O'Brien, Jack Kelly and Michael Silvester are away training with Ireland 7's i'm told.

I saw on Tommys Instagram a few days back him in a hospital bed with a knee brace on.

I really hope he hasn't done bad damage to himself

arsebiscuits1

Possible team for Zebre?

Byrne, Tracy, Bent
Molony, Kearney
Deegan, Doris, Ruddock
JGP, Byrne
COB, ROL
Lowe, Daly, Kearney
Byrne, Dooley, Aungier, Dowling, Murphy, HOS, Frawley, Reid

arsebiscuits1

I would also like to see Kelleher get a debut at some stage soon also.

But I can see Tracy and Byrne getting a run out after their break.

One of the South African teams at home would be a much better opportunity for Ronan. Unless he has to, Leo doesn't tend to give debuts to the young lads in away matches

scrummieman

arsebiscuits1 wrote: »

I saw on Tommys Instagram a few days back him in a hospital bed with a knee brace on.

I really hope he hasn't done bad damage to himself

I would say it's safe to assume he has. Shame.

arsebiscuits1

scrummieman wrote: »

I would say it's safe to assume he has. Shame.

I really hope his time in the academy doesn't pass him by.

I rate him a lot higher than Mullin and I think he is more skillful than COB.

Seems in the mould of ROL but more physical. Seems to be an excellent defender

scrummieman

arsebiscuits1 wrote: »

I really hope his time in the academy doesn't pass him by.

I rate him a lot higher than Mullin and I think he is more skillful than COB.

Seems in the mould of ROL but more physical. Seems to be an excellent defender

hopefully he is back by preseason and gets a good clean run at it.

RobbieRuns

Podge_irl wrote: »

It is not, but LI are moving back to London next year.

Small corrections. Reading is a city and they are not moving back next season, it is the season after. SOB will play next season for them when they are promoted in Reading (Season 19/20) and the real challenge is keeping them in the Premiership next season so that they are there when they move back to the new stadium in Brentford, West London.

The disaster for London Irish would be getting promoted this year (Certainty) and then getting relegated the following season and moving to their new stadium playing in the Championship. I would say that is why they are throwing large amounts of money at it. SOB with his injury record is actually a huge risk for them if he does not play lots and help keep them up. If he went to the RWC and got injured, it would be a big blow for them, he does not even join them until December so will miss the first part of their season anyways. Great deal for SOB, not sure that it is for London Irish

troyzer

RobbieRuns wrote: »

Small corrections. Reading is a city and they are not moving back next season, it is the season after. SOB will play next season for them when they are promoted in Reading (Season 19/20) and the real challenge is keeping them in the Premiership next season so that they are there when they move back to the new stadium in Brentford, West London.

The disaster for London Irish would be getting promoted this year (Certainty) and then getting relegated the following season and moving to their new stadium playing in the Championship. I would say that is why they are throwing large amounts of money at it. SOB with his injury record is actually a huge risk for them if he does not play lots and help keep them up. If he went to the RWC and got injured, it would be a big blow for them, he does not even join them until December so will miss the first part of their season anyways. Great deal for SOB, not sure that it is for London Irish

There have been a few whisperings that the reason why London Irish are going balls to the wall on marquee signings is because there has been a deal in principle between the RFU and Premiership shareholders (including London Irish as it stands) to introduce ring fencing at the end of next season.

Seen in that context, a lot of their mvoes the last few months make a LOT more sense.

joseywhales

Purely out of curiosity, how many champions cup games does one need to play to be accredited with the title if your team wins?

I just noticed he has 3/4, even though he played a fairly important role to beat Exeter last year.

scrummieman

joseywhales wrote: »

Purely out of curiosity, how many champions cup games does one need to play to be accredited with the title if your team wins?

I just noticed he has 3/4, even though he played a fairly important role to beat Exeter last year.

as in how many to get a medal?

joseywhales

scrummieman wrote: »

as in how many to get a medal?

yes, do you have to be in the matchday squad for the final?

scrummieman

joseywhales wrote: »

yes, do you have to be in the matchday squad for the final?

I dont think so, but not 100%

arsebiscuits1

joseywhales wrote: »

yes, do you have to be in the matchday squad for the final?

I would imagine all the players registered in the European Squad get a medal. Including those deregistered due to injury.

Obviously they wouldn't get it at the presentation but I would say they would get it via the club

joseywhales

arsebiscuits1 wrote: »

I would imagine all the players registered in the European Squad get a medal. Including those deregistered due to injury.

Obviously they wouldn't get it at the presentation but I would say they would get it via the club

We can correct the newspaper report so, he leaves with 4(sneaky 5?) stars

Podge_irl

RobbieRuns wrote: »

Small corrections. Reading is a city and they are not moving back next season, it is the season after.

Incorrect corrections! It is not a city and I said next year, not next season :P

It has made several bids to be recognised as a city, but none has yet succeeded.

Shefwedfan

troyzer wrote: »

There have been a few whisperings that the reason why London Irish are going balls to the wall on marquee signings is because there has been a deal in principle between the RFU and Premiership shareholders (including London Irish as it stands) to introduce ring fencing at the end of next season.

Seen in that context, a lot of their mvoes the last few months make a LOT more sense.

Talked to a few English fans, word on the street that it will be ring fenced in some shape or form and London Irish will be included in the "new" Premiership.


Too much money flying around for clubs to drop out of it anymore so they are going to work out something. With the money London Irish now have they are part of the mix


Also the SOB signing is trying to get bums on seats and put them back the "Irish" back into them. Expect them to go around some of the fridge Irish players to sign them up as well.....

Dravokivich

arsebiscuits1 wrote: »

Possible team for Zebre?

Byrne, Tracy, Bent
Molony, Kearney
Deegan, Doris, Ruddock
JGP, Byrne
COB, ROL
Lowe, Daly, Kearney
Byrne, Dooley, Aungier, Dowling, Murphy, HOS, Frawley, Reid

Would be surprised to see frawley and Reid in bench. Who'll cover back 3?

awec

arsebiscuits1 wrote: »

I would imagine all the players registered in the European Squad get a medal. Including those deregistered due to injury.

Obviously they wouldn't get it at the presentation but I would say they would get it via the club

Not sure the criteria for getting a medal has ever been published. I would be surprised if simply being in the registered european squad is enough though, I'd think you'd have to be named in at least 1 match day squad.

antietam1

kmart6 wrote: »

Full release

Gosh, he will be so badly missed at the World cup.

scrummieman

Dravokivich wrote: »

Would be surprised to see frawley and Reid in bench. Who'll cover back 3?

Frawley covers 15 and cover for the wing is on the field.

Former Former

Dravokivich wrote: »

Would be surprised to see frawley and Reid in bench. Who'll cover back 3?

Would expect Adam Byrne to feature ahead of one of the above.

McFadden has been back training for a few weeks now, would be great to see him get a run.

CIARAN_BOYLE

antietam1 wrote: »

Gosh, he will be so badly missed at the World cup.

I doubt there will be any effect on thr world cup from this.

Heymans

Anyone any idea what the team for weekend will look like?

Something like this:

1. Ed Byrne
2. Bryan Byrne
3. Bent
4. Molony
5. Fardy
6. Ruddock
7. Leavy
8. Doris

9. JGP
10.Byrne
11. Lowe
12. COB
13. ROL
14. Daly
15. D. Kearney

16. Tracy 17. Dooley 18. Vakh 19. Deegan 20. Frawley 21. McCarthy 22. Keenan

arsebiscuits1

Heymans wrote: »

Anyone any idea what the team for weekend will look like?

Something like this:

1. Ed Byrne
2. Bryan Byrne
3. Bent
4. Molony
5. Fardy
6. Ruddock
7. Leavy
8. Doris

9. JGP
10.Byrne
11. Lowe
12. COB
13. ROL
14. Daly
15. D. Kearney

16. Tracy 17. Dooley 18. Vakh 19. Deegan 20. Frawley 21. McCarthy 22. Keenan

1) Can't have Fardy, JGP and Lowe.

2) Leavy is injured.

3) McCarthy is injured.

4) Keenan Is injured.

5) You have only named 22 players

:pac:

scrummieman

1. Jack McGrath
2. James Tracy
3. Andrew Porter
4. Ross Molony
5. Scott Fardy
6. Max Deegan
7. Rhys Ruddock
8. Caelan Doris
9. Jamison Gibson Park
10. Ross Byrne
11. Barry Daly
12. Conor O'Brien
13. Rory O'Loughlin
14. Adam Byrne
15. Dave Kearney
16. Bryan Byrne
17. Ed Byrne
18. Michael Bent
19. Mick Kearney
20. Josh Murphy
21. Hugh O'Sullivan
22. Ciaran Frawley
23. Noel Reid

arsebiscuits1

scrummieman wrote: »

1. Jack McGrath
2. James Tracy
3. Andrew Porter
4. Ross Molony
5. Scott Fardy
6. Max Deegan
7. Rhys Ruddock
8. Caelan Doris
9. Jamison Gibson Park
10. Ross Byrne
11. Barry Daly
12. Conor O'Brien
13. Rory O'Loughlin
14. Adam Byrne
15. Dave Kearney
16. Bryan Byrne
17. Ed Byrne
18. Michael Bent
19. Mick Kearney
20. Josh Murphy
21. Hugh O'Sullivan
22. Ciaran Frawley
23. Noel Reid

If we're going for a front row that strong I'd be inclined to leave Fardy out and have Lowe in

scrummieman

arsebiscuits1 wrote: »

If we're going for a front row that strong I'd be inclined to leave Fardy out and have Lowe in

not me, it's an away game, I want Fardy starting.