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Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread X: [****]

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    #2012
    troyzer
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    Yeah_Right wrote: »
    I've been hearing good things about Sean O'Brien. Plays 7 but can also cover 6 and 8 if needed. He's meant to be very good at the breakdown and a devastating carrier. Anyone seen much of him?

    I cried a little at that.


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    #2013
    pickarooney
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    Can't we just take the Connacht one and make him good?


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    #2014
    baaba maal
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    Former Former wrote: »
    Dark horse: Mick Kearney.

    I have to say that I thought he had his best ever game for Leinster at the weekend. He may always need to play with first choice players around him to shine, but he did everything really well and tidied up a number of loose balls/messy rucks.


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    #2015
    Zzippy
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    pickarooney wrote: »
    Can't we just take the Connacht one and make him good?

    Nah, ye'd only break him too...


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    #2016
    Neil3030
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    We break, but we save.
    But we only break to save.
    And we save way more than we break.


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    #2017
    Former Former
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    pickarooney wrote: »
    Can't we just take the Connacht one and make him good?

    Probably easier to just harvest whatever organs and body parts are needed to patch up the real Sean O'Brien.


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    #2018
    durthacht
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    Neil3030 wrote: »
    We break, but we save.
    But we only break to save.
    And we save way more than we break.

    You've been watching the Matrix too much...

    :D


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    #2019
    Neil3030
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    durthacht wrote: »
    You've been watching the Matrix too much...

    :D

    I thought I was paraphrasing Dave Chapelle, what's the Matrix reference?


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    #2020
    Squidgy Black
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    Would be great if one of Molony/Kearney/Nagle had a breakout season this year with the RWC looming, Nagle is a bit of a lost cause though.


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    #2021
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    4 week ban for Pierre Schoeman after his elbow to the head of Leavy. It was originally 6 weeks reduced to 4 for guilty plea and the players attitude through the process.

    Makes an absolute farce of the 5 weeks Bastareaud got. I still can't believe World Rugby didn't step in over that.


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    #2022
    swiwi_
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    4 week ban for Pierre Schoeman after his elbow to the head of Leavy. It was originally 6 weeks reduced to 4 for guilty plea and the players attitude through the process.

    Makes an absolute farce of the 5 weeks Bastareaud got. I still can't believe World Rugby didn't step in over that.

    I really don’t like the concept of world rugby « stepping in ». Nazi Germany or Stalins Russia is an example of power controlling the judiciary. It should be independent and impartial with an appeals process.


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    #2023
    Tarf1234
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    swiwi_ wrote: »
    I really don’t like the concept of world rugby « stepping in ». Nazi Germany or Stalins Russia is an example of power controlling the judiciary. It should be independent and impartial with an appeals process.
    Surely power/interested parties controlling the judiciary is what has caused the Bastareud farce?


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    #2024
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    swiwi_ wrote: »
    I really don’t like the concept of world rugby « stepping in ». Nazi Germany or Stalins Russia is an example of power controlling the judiciary. It should be independent and impartial with an appeals process.

    Bastareaud's ban was blindingly corrupt. I'm all for independence and procedure but the guy was guilty of assault, let alone a high tackle / elbow to the head. It was malicious, pre meditated and with intent. It was not during normal play and there was no hint of an accident. He also has plenty of priors.

    That he is back just in time for the November series is a joke. If he didn't play again this season I wouldn't have balked at the sentence. French rugby administration is a disgrace and this is another in a long line of examples.


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    #2025
    sydthebeat
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    swiwi_ wrote: »
    I really don’t like the concept of world rugby « stepping in ». Nazi Germany or Stalins Russia is an example of power controlling the judiciary. It should be independent and impartial with an appeals process.

    who appeals? Theres no equivalent of a DPP in these cases.

    Theres a middle ground where the citing procedure is independent and impartial... but world rugby should be allowed to step in if they feel the sanction brought does not fit the offence.
    Almost like a 'book of quantum' if you will.


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    #2026
    troyzer
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    Anybody know what the craic is with the supporters bus? I've been trying to get onto them.


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    #2027
    irishbucsfan
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    sydthebeat wrote: »
    who appeals? Theres no equivalent of a DPP in these cases.

    Theres a middle ground where the citing procedure is independent and impartial... but world rugby should be allowed to step in if they feel the sanction brought does not fit the offence.
    Almost like a 'book of quantum' if you will.

    It should be FFR


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    #2028
    iminterestd0
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    Leinster Rugby ‘A’

    15. Jack Kelly(21/DUFC) CAPTAIN
    14. Adam Byrne(24)
    13. Jimmy O’Brien(21/UCD)
    12. Conor O’Brien(22/Clontarf)
    11. Dave Kearney(29)
    10. Ciaran Frawley(20/UCD)
    9. Hugh O’Sullivan(20/Clontarf)
    1. Peter Dooley(24/Lansdowne)
    2. Bryan Byrne(25/Clontarf)
    3. Tom Clarkson(u19/DUFC)
    4. Jack Dunne(19/DUFC)
    5. Ian Nagle(29)
    6. Josh Murphy(23/UCD)
    7. Scott Penny(u20/UCD)
    8. Ronan Foley(20/UCD)

    16. Dan Sheehan(20/DUFC)
    17. Michael Milne(u20/UCD)
    18. Vakh Abdaladze(22/Clontarf)
    19. Charlie Ryan(19/UCD)
    20. Ronan Watters(u20/St. Marys)
    21. Patrick Patterson(u21/UCD)
    22. David Hawkshaw(u20/Clontarf)
    23. Michael Silvester(20/DUFC)


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    #2029
    Faugheen
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    Looks like we're getting a strong side for Connacht then.

    Does Dooley being involved with the A's mean Jack McGrath is back or am I missing someone?


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    #2030
    iminterestd0
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    Faugheen wrote: »
    Looks like we're getting a strong side for Connacht then.

    Does Dooley being involved with the A's mean Jack McGrath is back or am I missing someone?

    Ed Byrne.


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    #2031
    troyzer
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    Faugheen wrote: »
    Looks like we're getting a strong side for Connacht then.

    Does Dooley being involved with the A's mean Jack McGrath is back or am I missing someone?

    Ed Byrne.


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    #2032
    salmocab
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    Molony and Kearney are 2 of th 3 Id think in second row


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    #2033
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    iminterestd0 wrote: »
    Ed Byrne.
    troyzer wrote: »
    Ed Byrne.


    edbyrne-comedian-1-prof.jpg


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    #2034
    salmocab
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    edbyrne-comedian-1-prof.jpg

    Not funny


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    #2035
    Heymans
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    iminterestd0 wrote: »
    Leinster Rugby ‘A’

    15. Jack Kelly(21/DUFC) CAPTAIN
    14. Adam Byrne(24)
    13. Jimmy O’Brien(21/UCD)
    12. Conor O’Brien(22/Clontarf)
    11. Dave Kearney(29)
    10. Ciaran Frawley(20/UCD)
    9. Hugh O’Sullivan(20/Clontarf)
    1. Peter Dooley(24/Lansdowne)
    2. Bryan Byrne(25/Clontarf)
    3. Tom Clarkson(u19/DUFC)
    4. Jack Dunne(19/DUFC)
    5. Ian Nagle(29)
    6. Josh Murphy(23/UCD)
    7. Scott Penny(u20/UCD)
    8. Ronan Foley(20/UCD)

    16. Dan Sheehan(20/DUFC)
    17. Michael Milne(u20/UCD)
    18. Vakh Abdaladze(22/Clontarf)
    19. Charlie Ryan(19/UCD)
    20. Ronan Watters(u20/St. Marys)
    21. Patrick Patterson(u21/UCD)
    22. David Hawkshaw(u20/Clontarf)
    23. Michael Silvester(20/DUFC)




    Strong team. I'd like to see the whole front row replaced during the game and see what the subs can give. Sheehan is a unit at 2 I'd like to see how he pans out as a player.


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    #2036
    molloyjh
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    So then something like:

    Healy Tracy Porter
    Molony Fardy
    Ruddock Doris SOB

    McGrath Byrne
    Tomane ROL
    Lowe Rob McFadden

    Cronin, Byrne, Bent, Kearney, VDF, McCarthy, Reid, Larmour

    If Tomane has worked on his defence that could be a really good side....


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    #2037
    troyzer
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    molloyjh wrote: »
    So then something like:

    Healy Tracy Porter
    Molony Fardy
    Ruddock Doris SOB

    McGrath Byrne
    Tomane ROL
    Lowe Rob McFadden

    Cronin, Byrne, Bent, Kearney, VDF, McCarthy, Reid, Larmour

    If Tomane has worked on his defence that could be a really good side....

    I'd be happy with that. A shame Leavy can't get a proper run out.


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    #2038
    stephen_n
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    molloyjh wrote: »
    So then something like:

    Healy Tracy Porter
    Molony Fardy
    Ruddock Doris SOB

    McGrath Byrne
    Tomane ROL
    Lowe Rob McFadden

    Cronin, Byrne, Bent, Kearney, VDF, McCarthy, Reid, Larmour

    If Tomane has worked on his defence that could be a really good side....

    Tomane has looked ok in defence in his last two cameos. I think ROL's defending has to be questioned too, as there are similar issues when Reid is paired with him.


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    #2039
    iminterestd0
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    stephen_n wrote: »
    Tomane has looked ok in defence in his last two cameos. I think ROL's defending has to be questioned too, as there are similar issues when Reid is paired with him.

    and very little issue when paired with a competent defender at 12.


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    #2040
    stephen_n
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    iminterestd0 wrote: »
    and very little issue when paired with a competent defender at 12.

    Same can be said for Tomane when there is someone else at 13, going by the last two weeks.


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    #2041
    Yeah_Right
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    Its been interesting the past few weeks reading the criticism (from certain quarters) of Tomane's defense. Its not something that he has been criticised for in the past as far as I'm aware. I believe in Super Rugby, the Top 14 and at test level he was always considered a solid defender. I think any problems he is having this season (if there is actually an issue) must be down to learning a new system and adapting to his team mates.


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