Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread X: [****]

sydthebeat · 14-10-2018 7:36pm

I'll never hear a bad word said against hayden triggs, top man and a complete gentleman

swiwi_ · 14-10-2018 7:37pm

It will be interesting to see what happens if Lowe plays in a big knockout match and the scores are close. My understanding is he narrowly missed out on higher honours in NZ because of a propensity to make 1 big mistake/poor play/wrong option in closely fought matches.

So far Leinster are just blitzing all and sundry so maybe we will never know...

MarinersBlues · 14-10-2018 7:40pm

swiwi_ wrote: »

It will be interesting to see what happens if Lowe plays in a big knockout match and the scores are close. My understanding is he narrowly missed out on higher honours in NZ because of a propensity to make a big mistake/poor play/wrong option in closely fought matches.

So far Leinster are just blitzing all and sundry so maybe we will never know...

The only time I have watched him play a full game was against Connacht and he fired some pretty wild passes off instead of going to ground.
He definitley cost Leinster two good attacking positions that day.

stephen_n · 14-10-2018 7:41pm

swiwi_ wrote: »

It will be interesting to see what happens if Lowe plays in a big knockout match and the scores are close. My understanding is he narrowly missed out on higher honours in NZ because of a propensity to make 1 big mistake/poor play/wrong option in closely fought matches.

So far Leinster are just blitzing all and sundry so maybe we will never know...

I hope we never have to find out :pac:

Interested Observer · 14-10-2018 10:35pm

If he's slow then how does he make so many metres every game? How did he score from the half way line the other night?

prawnsambo · 14-10-2018 10:39pm

Interested Observer wrote: »

If he's slow then how does he make so many metres every game? How did he score from the half way line the other night?

Well he had Rob Kearney running a blocking line for him. Elliot Daly would have had him otherwise.

molloyjh · 14-10-2018 10:44pm

prawnsambo wrote: »

Well he had Rob Kearney running a blocking line for him. Elliot Daly would have had him otherwise.

Screening line PS, screening line. :pac:

He was perfectly legal and wasn’t changing his line to block, although no doubt he knew exactly what he was doing.

Burkie1203 · 14-10-2018 10:45pm

prawnsambo wrote: »

Well he had Rob Kearney running a blocking line for him. Elliot Daly would have had him otherwise.

Support line for the offload. The handsome one was expecting Lowe to be hauled down about 5m out and was primed for the offload

prawnsambo · 14-10-2018 10:45pm

molloyjh wrote: »

Screening line PS, screening line. :pac:

He was perfectly legal and wasn’t changing his line to block, although no doubt he knew exactly what he was doing.

Support line actually. We really need to get our stories straight here.

joseywhales · 14-10-2018 10:59pm

Clearly he is lightening over 10 metres, not everyone is fast in the same way

prawnsambo · 14-10-2018 11:15pm

joseywhales wrote: »

Clearly he is lightening over 10 metres, not everyone is fast in the same way

Ah yeah, this isn't a criticism. He's extremely powerful and one of those wingers who can't be stopped 5m out. Gets up to speed quickly, but he can be overhauled, he's always looking for the offload though.

Wouldn't concern me in the least.

Clegg · 14-10-2018 11:21pm

Earls is the same. Great acceleration over 10-15 metres but doesn't have top end pace.

Squidgy Black · 14-10-2018 11:33pm

Clegg wrote: »

Earls is the same. Great acceleration over 10-15 metres but doesn't have top end pace.

His tackle vs Italy in the 6N would beg to differ.

Clegg · 14-10-2018 11:44pm

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Clegg wrote: »

Earls is the same. Great acceleration over 10-15 metres but doesn't have top end pace.

His tackle vs Italy in the 6N would beg to differ.

Why would it? He's not fast like say Ioane is. He has great acceleration and is quick. But when matched with out and out speedsters he gets burned. Got done by Hogg a few seasons ago in the 6 Nations.

Squidgy Black · 15-10-2018 8:22am

Clegg wrote: »

Why would it? He's not fast like say Ioane is. He has great acceleration and is quick. But when matched with out and out speedsters he gets burned. Got done by Hogg a few seasons ago in the 6 Nations.

https://streamable.com/9zscj

prawnsambo · 15-10-2018 9:04am

Squidgy Black wrote: »

https://streamable.com/9zscj

Is Bellini as fast as Ioane?

Clegg · 15-10-2018 9:27am

Again though that's not top end speed. I'm not doubting Earls' quality as a player or a finisher. Just that he isn't that fast compared to others in the game.

Clegg · 15-10-2018 9:28am

I love Lowe's way with words.

The man himself, an affable character, insists he is happy to do whatever is best for Leinster, particularly given their options out wide.

“Everyone wants to play in the big games, everyone wants to play in every game that they are available for selection, but you’ve also got to understand that in my position there’s a lot of depth,” said Lowe after Friday’s 52-3 win against Wasps, in which he scored twice.

“Scott has played 30 or 40 international Test matches. When he comes on he brings is a lot of mongrel. He does his job really well, he’s a leader. He’s 30-odd-years-old, he’s bald but he’s definitely a leader in the team.

http://www.the42.ie/leinster-james-lowe-expendable-rules-4286420-Oct2018/

swiwi_ · 15-10-2018 10:17am

Clegg wrote: »

I love Lowe's way with words.

http://www.the42.ie/leinster-james-lowe-expendable-rules-4286420-Oct2018/

TBH he had enough of a mane to donate some to Scott.

Venjur, photoshop please.

stephen_n · 15-10-2018 11:10am

swiwi_ wrote: »

TBH he had enough of a mane to donate some to Scott.

Venjur, photoshop please.

Neil3030 · 15-10-2018 11:18am

One of the Eggchasers podcasters works for BT and he said that at half time when the teams were coming off, he had never seen a team more exhausted looking than Wasps were; breathing heavy etc.

molloyjh · 15-10-2018 12:54pm

Neil3030 wrote: »

One of the Eggchasers podcasters works for BT and he said that at half time when the teams were coming off, he had never seen a team more exhausted looking than Wasps were; breathing heavy etc.

No surprise there at all. Even Dai Young said it 25 mins in, they couldn't keep making tackles the whole time like that. Eventually the dam will burst. It's pretty much what happened. We scored 1 try in the first quarter, 1 in the second, 2 in the third and 4 in the fourth. And 3 of the last 4 came in the last 10 minutes. We just wore them down.

troyzer · 15-10-2018 12:56pm

molloyjh wrote: »

No surprise there at all. Even Dai Young said it 25 mins in, they couldn't keep making tackles the whole time like that. Eventually the dam will burst. It's pretty much what happened. We scored 1 try in the first quarter, 1 in the second, 2 in the third and 4 in the fourth. And 3 of the last 4 came in the last 10 minutes. We just wore them down.

It's similar to how Ireland is designed to play at test level. Massive posession, grind them down.

The problem is that against Australia, they never seemed to have that clinical edge to finish them off with tries and Australia were always still in it with a few minutes to go despite having very little posession.

If Schmidt can translate this killer edge to test level as well as the defense, I think we'll beat the All Blacks.

salmocab · 15-10-2018 1:01pm

stephen_n wrote: »

I used to date her

15-10-2018 1:18pm

stephen_n wrote: »

I DID NOT HIT HER, I DID NOT, OH HI MARK

troyzer · 15-10-2018 1:22pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I DID NOT HIT HER, I DID NOT, OH HI MARK

prawnsambo · 15-10-2018 1:39pm

troyzer wrote: »

It's similar to how Ireland is designed to play at test level. Massive posession, grind them down.

The problem is that against Australia, they never seemed to have that clinical edge to finish them off with tries and Australia were always still in it with a few minutes to go despite having very little posession.

If Schmidt can translate this killer edge to test level as well as the defense, I think we'll beat the All Blacks.

That's test rugby though. Even the ABs often don't get to assert any kind of dominance until the last quarter. And against good sides they can sometimes be behind at that stage.

troyzer · 15-10-2018 1:48pm

prawnsambo wrote: »

That's test rugby though. Even the ABs often don't get to assert any kind of dominance until the last quarter. And against good sides they can sometimes be behind at that stage.

Of course, I'm not saying it's an easy step up. I'm just saying that the way Leinster played is probably the way Schmidt wants Ireland to play.

Neil3030 · 15-10-2018 1:54pm

Game.

Pick your starting Leinster XV.

Then pick players currently playing in Europe who you think would improve the team, given the sort of game they currently play (important point this).

Count how many players you end up bringing in.

For me it's 5.

Healy
Owens
Tadhg
Ryan
Fardy
Leavy
VDF
Picamoles
De Klerk
Sexton
Lowe
Henshaw
Ringrose
Daly
Williams

Honourable mentions to:
Maro, who seems to have rediscovered form, but I just don't think he has the skillset to play in this Leinster team
Bundee, very close call between him and Henshaw
Mako, another very close one, probably the closest.
Davies, I just love Ringrose, sorry.

Burkie1203 · 15-10-2018 1:58pm

Healy and Handsome Rob are doubts for weekend according to the IT

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