What the hell has happened to Kilkee?

Sal Butamol

Mailcoachinn wrote: »

Are crowds of people coming to Kilkee for New Year’s Eve still a thing? I used to do that every year, the whole town would be well buzzing. Haven’t done it in the best part of about 10 years now so I wouldn’t know if it still happens or not. Does it?

Hickies last year New Year's Eve

JCX BXC

Mailcoachinn wrote: »

Are crowds of people coming to Kilkee for New Year’s Eve still a thing? I used to do that every year, the whole town would be well buzzing. Haven’t done it in the best part of about 10 years now so I wouldn’t know if it still happens or not. Does it?

Halloween, Christmas and Easter attract some, especially families, but the night life will be nothing compared to summer. It'll be mainly an older crowd (35+)

Mailcoachinn

Sal Butamol wrote: »

Hickies last year New Year's Eve

Excuse me Mary. May I please have my cigarettes???

Mailcoachinn

Just back from another weekend in Kilkee. I totally agree with whoever said that it’s not anything like what it once was. Where did it all go wrong was what I was thinking to myself while walking around the place.

I have some great memories of time spent in Kilkee from the late 80’s until a couple of years back. I really hate to say this but the town is dying on its ar5e.

I can’t see a positive outlook for Kilkee in the long run. Any young people that I know living there and who have any aspirations at all to be somebody or make something of themselves in live (by that I mean get involved in something other than drawing the dole and doing drugs) can’t wait to get out of there.

The rest of them, for the lack of a better term, could only be described as a collective waste of space. Thick eejits, 3rd & 4th generation unemployed, possibly inbred, no desire to better themselves in any way and will never amount to anything. The highlight of their week appears to be going out on a Saturday night purely in order to cause trouble. Throwing half full bottles in crowds trying to start a fight so they can prove to each other that they’re such big men. Seriously what sad pathetic losers.

Yes, the place really has gone to the dogs. If it wasn’t for the pollock holes and the views I would seriously consider never going back there again

ABEasy

Mailcoachinn wrote: »

Just back from another weekend in Kilkee. I totally agree with whoever said that it’s not anything like what it once was. Where did it all go wrong was what I was thinking to myself while walking around the place.

I have some great memories of time spent in Kilkee from the late 80’s until a couple of years back. I really hate to say this but the town is dying on its ar5e.

I can’t see a positive outlook for Kilkee in the long run. Any young people that I know living there and who have any aspirations at all to be somebody or make something of themselves in live (by that I mean get involved in something other than drawing the dole and doing drugs) can’t wait to get out of there.

The rest of them, for the lack of a better term, could only be described as a collective waste of space. Thick eejits, 3rd & 4th generation unemployed, possibly inbred, no desire to better themselves in any way and will never amount to anything. The highlight of their week appears to be going out on a Saturday night purely in order to cause trouble. Throwing half full bottles in crowds trying to start a fight so they can prove to each other that they’re such big men. Seriously what sad pathetic losers.

Yes, the place really has gone to the dogs. If it wasn’t for the pollock holes and the views I would seriously consider never going back there again

Apart from the local rif raf, what made you feel its dying? Just curious!

Mailcoachinn

ABEasy wrote: »

Apart from the local rif raf, what made you feel its dying? Just curious!

They seem more prominent than ever before. Why would I go to any town where most of the local people are like that?

ABEasy

Mailcoachinn wrote: »

They seem more prominent than ever before. Why would I go to any town where most of the local people are like that?

Can't disagree with that!

Shapey Fiend

I went to Kilkee day tripping quite a bit this summer because purely as a beach I think it's more attractive than, say, Lahinch.

Even if the hotel situation is lackluster there are a ton of BnB/Airbnb options which I think tourists are increasingly gravitating towards.

The golf club do a really nice lunch, and there are beautiful views from the outdoor seating area. The restaurant by the pollock holes isn't as good but has similarly pretty views.

There's a good swimming pool and I did a course at the scuba diving school a few years back everybody there was really sound.

We're moving into an era that's less about sinking pints in dark rooms and more about food, coffee and entertainment. It'll take a while for the town to adapt properly. The likes of Lahinch were fast tracked because of surfing culture bringing in a lot of young people. I can see the main street recovering further in the next few summers.

Arcades are going through a bit of a revival in Dublin and Cork at the moment. The existing ones could probably do a good business if they tweaked their approach. Chuck some retro arcade and pinball machines in, serve beer and pizza. Maybe karaoke booths? Small kids are generally pretty facinated by mechanical games, whack a mole etc. because they're an experience you won't get on a touchscreen.

Cheap rents can be a problem or a bonus. If Kilkee make themselves a culturally attractive spot for young people then they'll flock there and bring lots of positive energy to the place.

4ensic15

I was in Kilkee in August and there was no lunch available in the Golf Club. The only places i found lunches available were Myles, Bayview and Stella Maris. myles was basic and obviously a re-heat. The proprietress of the Bayview was despicable and I couldn't enjoy what was in fact reasonable food. The Stella Maris was also quite good.

Palmach

Sal Butamol wrote: »

In what way?

In the 1980s there was one restaurant in Kilkee and no coffee shop except for the mausoleum that was the Victoria Dining Room. Now there are several. The town was grey and drab. Now things are bright and painted. There are flower boxes around. The library is now a really busy culture centre instead of draughty dingy dive it was. There is a dive centre, water sports activities and classes. None of which were there in the 80s. Believe me I was there for the whole of that decade. You have a new square at the centre of the town. Washing taps on the beech. A new exercise route along the beech along the way. Three hotels now open and fourth to come. It is a far far better place now than it was 30 years ago.

4ensic15 wrote: »

What a joke. I saw a "Vacancies" sign in a window in the 2nd week of August. .

Really. I doubt it. More liike they forgot to take it down.

Mikefitzs wrote: »

The last time I visited the beach at Kilkee was about 10 years ago.

So you have made up stuff about Kilkee because you haven't been there in 10 years. Why are you even on a thread about contemporary Kilkee.?

Mikefitzs wrote: »

As for hotels, they need business all year round to survive, 2 busy months won't pay the bills for the other 10 they lie empty..

Are you in the Hotel business? Hotels do stay opne for 12 months of the year in Kilkee.

Sal Butamol wrote: »

Even with the cracking weather this summer they said the caravan park was half empty and they place was just deserted most of the time. No atmosphere at night anywhere.

More drivel. I know all the park owners well. Almost universally they said the parks for full for July. Every single night. They had never seen it as busy.

Mikefitzs wrote: »

They are inviting places to go, places that have character.

Spanish Point?!?!?!:D


[/quote] There's 2 extremely famous names associated with Kilkee but they're not being exploited and capitalised on: Che Guevara and Richard Harris. .[/QUOTE]


http://www.loophead.ie/events/che-do-bheatha/

Mailcoachinn wrote: »

Thick eejits, 3rd & 4th generation unemployed, possibly inbred, no desire to better themselves in any way and will never amount to anything. The highlight of their week appears to be going out on a Saturday night purely in order to cause trouble. Throwing half full bottles in crowds trying to start a fight so they can prove to each other that they’re such big men. Seriously what sad pathetic losers.

Another fella making stuff up.

4ensic15 wrote: »

I was in Kilkee in August and there was no lunch available in the Golf Club..

I regularly ate lunch in the Golf Club in August. I just don't believe this to be true.

mitresize5

great post but your wasting your time with some of the clowns posting on this thread

CrowdedHouse

Oh well we're heading there tomorrow for a few days, weather is not looking great though unlike a weekend in June but it might be easier to get fed and watered.


Cliff Walk 23rd June

Sal Butamol

There was a really funny review of Hickies on TripAdvisor a while back. It was mental stuff, Mary locking them in the room, threatening to call the Gardai etc.

Read like an Episode of Fawlty Towers. Wish I could find it

4ensic15

Palmach wrote: »

I regularly ate lunch in the Golf Club in August. I just don't believe this to be true.

I was there this time last month. It wasn't offering lunch. Believe it or not.

Sal Butamol

Found it

We had the most awful and upsetting experience staying in the Bayview.

We were shouted at, insulted in a most horrendous fashion, locked in to the property and locked out and intimidated in a most unbelievable way.

We were treated with total contempt and ignorance from the proprietor, Mary Hickie, from the moment we stepped foot on the premises.

The rooms had recently been done up and were beautiful but we were made feel like we had to be on our best behaviour. Mary accosted us in the hallway 10 mins after check-in to apprehend us for going to the bar to get a cup of tea and complained that no beverages were allowed in the room.

She declined to tell us the check out times or breakfast times leaving us in a mass of total confusion.

She then entered our room while we were changing our clothes asking us did we know someone called O'Reilly? She did not make any apology for barging in on top of us and barked the question at us with such ignorance. I felt most unwelcome and knew by then that we had made a terrible mistake by staying there.

Coming back later that evening, the whole place was locked up. Luckily, Mary's son saw us and came to let us in.

The next morning, Mary came to our room banging on the door and shouting at us to know if we were leaving, this was 10.40. We then proceeded to have showers but there was no hot water.

When I went to ask Mary about the water she said it was our fault and that we should have gotten up earlier.

My husband was very annoyed by this and when we were checking out demanded that we get a discount. At this, Mary started shouting at us and said that we had gotten good value enough on the room as they had just recently been done up. Then a blonde haired woman arrived at the checkout and said that if we had been up earlier we would have had hot water and implied that myself and my husband were having sexual relations with each other and that was why we had been late having showers.

I am not making this up.

My husband was shocked and annoyed by this and refused to pay at all. At that Mary shouted to her son to get up and locked the door so we could not leave. Then Mary and the blonde woman said they were calling the police and started hurtling abuse at us.

Eventually we paid just to be able to get out of the place.

It was a total nightmare and I would urge all not to stay there.

The proprietor lets the beautiful property down.

We have recently returned to Kilkee and stayed at the Stella Maris which I am glad to say was a much nicer experience

4ensic15

I went in there for lunch and her demeanour was so awful, I wouldn't go in there again. She is despicable.

Mikefitzs

Palmach wrote: »

In the 1980s there was one restaurant in Kilkee and no coffee shop except for the mausoleum that was the Victoria Dining Room. Now there are several. The town was grey and drab. Now things are bright and painted. There are flower boxes around. The library is now a really busy culture centre instead of draughty dingy dive it was. There is a dive centre, water sports activities and classes. None of which were there in the 80s. Believe me I was there for the whole of that decade. You have a new square at the centre of the town. Washing taps on the beech. A new exercise route along the beech along the way. Three hotels now open and fourth to come. It is a far far better place now than it was 30 years ago.





Really. I doubt it. More liike they forgot to take it down.





So you have made up stuff about Kilkee because you haven't been there in 10 years. Why are you even on a thread about contemporary Kilkee.?





Are you in the Hotel business? Hotels do stay opne for 12 months of the year in Kilkee.





More drivel. I know all the park owners well. Almost universally they said the parks for full for July. Every single night. They had never seen it as busy.







Spanish Point?!?!?!:D

There's 2 extremely famous names associated with Kilkee but they're not being exploited and capitalised on: Che Guevara and Richard Harris. .[/QUOTE]


http://www.loophead.ie/events/che-do-bheatha/





Another fella making stuff up.





I regularly ate lunch in the Golf Club in August. I just don't believe this to be true.[/QUOTE]

Here's the problem, it's you and people like you. You're blind to the fact that what little you have in Kilkee is out of date and out of touch with what the public want these days. You're not listening to what all the complaints are, your eyes, ears and mind are closed, I really don't care what you spout, at the moment Kilkee is a kip and this is clearly the consensus of the majority from the posts here on Boards.ie
As for Spanish Point, it's a beautiful quaint village that has fantastic top quality accommodation and excellent West Clare hospitality, things that are missing from Kilkee.

Scullion, what a top act, are they still living? The festival is about as out of touch with reality as yourself.

ABEasy

Mikefitzs wrote: »

There's 2 extremely famous names associated with Kilkee but they're not being exploited and capitalised on: Che Guevara and Richard Harris. .

http://www.loophead.ie/events/che-do-bheatha/





Another fella making stuff up.





I regularly ate lunch in the Golf Club in August. I just don't believe this to be true.[/QUOTE]

Here's the problem, it's you and people like you. You're blind to the fact that what little you have in Kilkee is out of date and out of touch with what the public want these days. You're not listening to what all the complaints are, your eyes, ears and mind are closed, I really don't care what you spout, at the moment Kilkee is a kip and this is clearly the consensus of the majority from the posts here on Boards.ie
As for Spanish Point, it's a beautiful quaint village that has fantastic top quality accommodation and excellent West Clare hospitality, things that are missing from Kilkee.

Scullion, what a top act, are they still living? The festival is about as out of touch with reality as yourself.[/quote]

In fairness the majority of posters have been defending kilkee. It is a great village & seaside resort. Its beach, location on loop head, its diving, its cliff walks, the pollockholes, all great natural assets & you keep spouting on about bloody hotels.........

Mikefitzs

ABEasy wrote: »

http://www.loophead.ie/events/che-do-bheatha/





Another fella making stuff up.





I regularly ate lunch in the Golf Club in August. I just don't believe this to be true.

Here's the problem, it's you and people like you. You're blind to the fact that what little you have in Kilkee is out of date and out of touch with what the public want these days. You're not listening to what all the complaints are, your eyes, ears and mind are closed, I really don't care what you spout, at the moment Kilkee is a kip and this is clearly the consensus of the majority from the posts here on Boards.ie
As for Spanish Point, it's a beautiful quaint village that has fantastic top quality accommodation and excellent West Clare hospitality, things that are missing from Kilkee.

Scullion, what a top act, are they still living? The festival is about as out of touch with reality as yourself.[/quote]

In fairness the majority of posters have been defending kilkee. It is a great village & seaside resort. Its beach, location on loop head, its diving, its cliff walks, the pollockholes, all great natural assets & you keep spouting on about bloody hotels.........[/quote]

Must be really bad if you need to defend it. You need to redo your head count on that, not just the same few people saying how great it is.
We are telling you what we see wrong and you don’t seem to want to fix it. Your loss.

JCX BXC

Sure don't we all know Rome was built in a day.

There's alot that can be done to Kilkee, but things are being done. Alot slower than they should be but things are always happening.

ABEasy

Mikefitzs wrote: »

Here's the problem, it's you and people like you. You're blind to the fact that what little you have in Kilkee is out of date and out of touch with what the public want these days. You're not listening to what all the complaints are, your eyes, ears and mind are closed, I really don't care what you spout, at the moment Kilkee is a kip and this is clearly the consensus of the majority from the posts here on Boards.ie
As for Spanish Point, it's a beautiful quaint village that has fantastic top quality accommodation and excellent West Clare hospitality, things that are missing from Kilkee.

Scullion, what a top act, are they still living? The festival is about as out of touch with reality as yourself.

In fairness the majority of posters have been defending kilkee. It is a great village & seaside resort. Its beach, location on loop head, its diving, its cliff walks, the pollockholes, all great natural assets & you keep spouting on about bloody hotels.........[/quote]

Must be really bad if you need to defend it. You need to redo your head count on that, not just the same few people saying how great it is.
We are telling you what we see wrong and you don’t seem to want to fix it. Your loss.[/quote]

How's it my loss? I think the place is great, and don't agree with your version of what is wrong with it! I'm defending it because you keep unfairly talking the place down based on your sugar coated memory of how it used to be!

This year there have been various events and festivals, this weekend there is the junior lifesaving competition I believe, the che festival next weekend, earlier in the summer the new kilkee run, the hell of the west, the life saving races two or three weekends ago, loop head food festival, add in various live music events and the great weather! It was a great summer & kudos to the organisers in the town & the tidy towns committee, really pushing the town this year!

Mikefitzs

ABEasy wrote: »

In fairness the majority of posters have been defending kilkee. It is a great village & seaside resort. Its beach, location on loop head, its diving, its cliff walks, the pollockholes, all great natural assets & you keep spouting on about bloody hotels.........

Must be really bad if you need to defend it. You need to redo your head count on that, not just the same few people saying how great it is.
We are telling you what we see wrong and you don’t seem to want to fix it. Your loss.[/quote]

How's it my loss? I think the place is great, and don't agree with your version of what is wrong with it! I'm defending it because you keep unfairly talking the place down based on your sugar coated memory of how it used to be!

This year there have been various events and festivals, this weekend there is the junior lifesaving competition I believe, the che festival next weekend, earlier in the summer the new kilkee run, the hell of the west, the life saving races two or three weekends ago, loop head food festival, add in various live music events and the great weather! It was a great summer & kudos to the organisers in the town & the tidy towns committee, really pushing the town this year![/QUOTE]

Wow, you're about as deep in denial as you can get. Hopefully the next generation of business owners in Kilkee will make an attempt at getting it back on the tourist map. Nothing wrong with the beautiful coastline and the the villages nearby, it's just Kilkee itself that the issues are with.
I won't reply to you on this again, not worth the effort, simply because you don't want to listen.

Mailcoachinn

Mikefitzs wrote: »

Must be really bad if you need to defend it. You need to redo your head count on that, not just the same few people saying how great it is.
We are telling you what we see wrong and you don’t seem to want to fix it. Your loss.

How's it my loss? I think the place is great, and don't agree with your version of what is wrong with it! I'm defending it because you keep unfairly talking the place down based on your sugar coated memory of how it used to be!

This year there have been various events and festivals, this weekend there is the junior lifesaving competition I believe, the che festival next weekend, earlier in the summer the new kilkee run, the hell of the west, the life saving races two or three weekends ago, loop head food festival, add in various live music events and the great weather! It was a great summer & kudos to the organisers in the town & the tidy towns committee, really pushing the town this year![/QUOTE]

Wow, you're about as deep in denial as you can get. Hopefully the next generation of business owners in Kilkee will make an attempt at getting it back on the tourist map. Nothing wrong with the beautiful coastline and the the villages nearby, it's just Kilkee itself that the issues are with.
I won't reply to you on this again, not worth the effort, simply because you don't want to listen.[/quote]

Who will be the next generation of business owners? Young people are leaving the area in their droves

ABEasy

Mailcoachinn wrote: »

How's it my loss? I think the place is great, and don't agree with your version of what is wrong with it! I'm defending it because you keep unfairly talking the place down based on your sugar coated memory of how it used to be!

This year there have been various events and festivals, this weekend there is the junior lifesaving competition I believe, the che festival next weekend, earlier in the summer the new kilkee run, the hell of the west, the life saving races two or three weekends ago, loop head food festival, add in various live music events and the great weather! It was a great summer & kudos to the organisers in the town & the tidy towns committee, really pushing the town this year!

Wow, you're about as deep in denial as you can get. Hopefully the next generation of business owners in Kilkee will make an attempt at getting it back on the tourist map. Nothing wrong with the beautiful coastline and the the villages nearby, it's just Kilkee itself that the issues are with.
I won't reply to you on this again, not worth the effort, simply because you don't want to listen.[/quote]

Who will be the next generation of business owners? Young people are leaving the area in their droves[/quote]

Young people have always left the area though! There is no local industry, just farming and tourism which is seasonal. Young adults naturally levitate to cities where employment & opportunity is plentiful, be that Dublin, Cork, Limerick or Galway.

mrsoundie

Gentleman, I grew up there, fell in love and moved away, always liked going back at least once a year.

Kilkee needs money and a new perspective. That's starting to be established there, however, Kilkee suffers from one thing. It's not Lahinch made plain by the lack of speed in repairing the seawall after the major storm. A unified community is what's required, with that the rest should come together.

Even in a storm, the place has something about it and this needs to be developed.

Sal Butamol

mrsoundie wrote: »

Gentleman, I grew up there, fell in love and moved away, always liked going back at least once a year.

Kilkee needs money and a new perspective. That's starting to be established there, however, Kilkee suffers from one thing. It's not Lahinch made plain by the lack of speed in repairing the seawall after the major storm. A unified community is what's required, with that the rest should come together.

Even in a storm, the place has something about it and this needs to be developed.

Best thing for Kilkee would be for a tsunami to wash away the town.

Cookiemunster

I really can't get my head around the fact that certain posters can't accept the fact that of the thousands of people go there every summer and love the place. If ye hate the place so much then don't fcuking go there and leave to the people who do like it.

Sal Butamol

Ah yes, go to a place for 30 years but don't dare highlight anything negative about it just fcuk off and stay at home.

Looks like many regulars have chosen to do just that.

Mailcoachinn

Sal Butamol wrote: »

Looks like many regulars have chosen to do just that.

Yep

Sal Butamol

Has always been the attitude in Kilkee from the locals.

"Give us your money and fcuk off"

A nasty insular bunch

Mikefitzs

Cookiemunster wrote: »

I really can't get my head around the fact that certain posters can't accept the fact that of the thousands of people go there every summer and love the place. If ye hate the place so much then don't fcuking go there and leave to the people who do like it.

That's a great way to improve a place, leave it alone for the people that go there because they're happy as it is.
Let's not bother to improve houses, cars, roads, planes etc, just because people that use them are happy to use them as they are. Let's not bother with innovation at all. And don't be making a place inviting for tourists, in case it makes money for the already struggling businesses that are poorly supported by the "thousands of people" that go there.
Usually when someone resorts to using bad language in a discussion it shows that they have run out of valid points and try to intimidate others, bully boy tactics. Go back to your cave.

Mailcoachinn

Sal Butamol wrote: »

Has always been the attitude in Kilkee from the locals.

"Give us your money and fcuk off"

A nasty insular bunch

Not all of the local business owners are like that, but most of them certainly are. For such a small town it has a disproportionate number of businesses which I swore blind that I would never darken the doorway of again

Mailcoachinn

Sal Butamol wrote: »

"Give us your money and fcuk off"

Did the residents of Kilkee once threaten to sue the Boomtown Rats over plagiarism?

“Hey, that’s our phrase”

JCX BXC

Sal Butamol wrote: »

Has always been the attitude in Kilkee from the locals.

"Give us your money and fcuk off"

A nasty insular bunch

May I suggest that some posters sheer hatrid of the place is darkening the reality? I for one am well aware alot needs to be done, and most are. A town with no more life than a graveyard in the winter is not something to be aspired to.

However, some of the severe nastiness I've read, alot of it from you is shocking. The fact that it has been allowed remain is very puzzling to me. Kilkee isn't a third world shantytown, (low)hundreds of thousands tourists flock to Kilkee every year, I myself worked in Kilkee a few years ago and you'd be surprised how many people think the place is fabulous. I for one don't, and generally don't like going there, but you can't ignore the tourists and their wallets!

Now let's stop branding everyone in Kilkee under the one name, and go with the motto of attack the post and not the poster, and perhaps go a bit further and say attack the post not the entire community.

4ensic15

What has been observed by some posters is that the numbers going to Kilkee are dropping and the overall in the town is poor. Others insist that the place is paradise and is packed. Having looked at some photographs of Kilkee from the 60s and 70s it is clear that the place is much less busy than it was. It confirms my own observations. Some business proprietors in Killkee have a poor demeanour. I noticed the same thing in the Isle of Many years ago. A short season and long working hours leads to exhaustion and bad tempers. Kilkee people, in person and on this thread are very touchy about criticism. I once complained about a bad pint in Kilkee. The answer was "would you complain in Dublin". O course I would complain in Dublin, the difference is the pint would be replaced with an apology, not a snarl.

redved

without doubt there is an unapologetic attitude by many of the businesses in Kilkee that they have three months to make their money and to hell with politeness.
Very shortsighted. And as for the lady in charge of naughtons possibly the rudest in the town

jackboy

redved wrote: »

without doubt there is an unapologetic attitude by many of the businesses in Kilkee that they have three months to make their money and to hell with politeness.
Very shortsighted. And as for the lady in charge of naughtons possibly the rudest in the town

With the success of the wild Atlantic way, the tourist season is much longer now. There are a lot of tourists in west Clare during winter now.

JCX BXC

jackboy wrote: »

With the success of the wild Atlantic way, the tourist season is much longer now. There are a lot of tourists in west Clare during winter now.

Yet the town is dead during the infamous JAN-MAR season.

I don't think much of the problem lies with rude business owners, more with young, untrained staff earning below minimum wage and working long days for weeks with no day off.

Labour laws really go out the window in that town, I can testify to that.

Mailcoachinn

JCX BXC wrote: »

Labour laws really go out the window in that town, I can testify to that.

Agreed. I worked in the now defunct Ocean Cove back in 2002. Did a full fortnight without a day off

jcd5971

Worth remembering as I've said before that MOST bot all but definitely MOST of the businesses in Kilkee are owned by the same few families, and have been for many many years.

They have made their money and are happy with the status quo, no desire for innovation as what's the point the are happy as they are.

Also because as rightly pointed out by a few, it's a short season therefore most of the locals work outside the hospitality industry and commute to other places to work.

I for example work away from Kilkee but live there and personally I'd prefer it got quieter to be honest, the tourist season only brings trouble mostly and longer commutes, I have no interest in seeing Kilkee as this tourist haven, and I can assure you I'm not alone in this mindset.

This isn't a Kilkee is great post at all, I'm just pointing out that alot of locals just don't care about tourists not out of malice but rather an indifference.

To put it bluntly we have no skin in the game.

4ensic15

redved wrote: »

without doubt there is an unapologetic attitude by many of the businesses in Kilkee that they have three months to make their money and to hell with politeness.
Very shortsighted. And as for the lady in charge of naughtons possibly the rudest in the town

I would rate her a second to the old hag in the bayview.

4ensic15

JCX BXC wrote: »

Yet the town is dead during the infamous JAN-MAR season.

I don't think much of the problem lies with rude business owners, more with young, untrained staff earning below minimum wage and working long days for weeks with no day off.

Labour laws really go out the window in that town, I can testify to that.

Who is employing them? presumably the same ignorant bollockses who treat paying customers or potential customers with contempt.

Mailcoachinn

4ensic15 wrote: »

I would rate her a second to the old hag in the bayview.

And the wagon from the greyhound with the “nervous hyena laughter” as someone on Facebook brilliantly describes it

Sal Butamol

JCX BXC wrote: »

Yet the town is dead during the infamous JAN-MAR season.

I don't think much of the problem lies with rude business owners, more with young, untrained staff earning below minimum wage and working long days for weeks with no day off.

Labour laws really go out the window in that town, I can testify to that.

Is that you Mary Hickie

feargale

"29 Aug 2018 · There's 2 extremely famous names associated with Kilkee but they're not being exploited and capitalised on: Che Guevara and Richard Harris."

Who posted this here and took it down again? Che Guevara down the road and the Donald up the road. That's a nice combination. Mix the two colours in equal measure and you should get the perfect recipe.

Mailcoachinn

Sal Butamol wrote: »

Is that you Mary Hickie

Nurse Ratchet you mean???

Mailcoachinn

feargale wrote: »

"29 Aug 2018 · There's 2 extremely famous names associated with Kilkee but they're not being exploited and capitalised on: Che Guevara and Richard Harris."

Who posted this here and took it down again? Che Guevara down the road and the Donald up the road. That's a nice combination. Mix the two colours in equal measure and you should get the perfect recipe.

Donald & Che. Making Kilkee great again. Bigly

Mikefitzs

feargale wrote: »

"29 Aug 2018 · There's 2 extremely famous names associated with Kilkee but they're not being exploited and capitalised on: Che Guevara and Richard Harris."

Who posted this here and took it down again? Che Guevara down the road and the Donald up the road. That's a nice combination. Mix the two colours in equal measure and you should get the perfect recipe.

What do you mean by "took it down again"?

There's 2 extremely famous names associated with Kilkee but they're not being exploited and capitalised on: Che Guevara and Richard Harris. Oh and what idiot decided to hide Harri's statue in the middle of nowhere? It should have been placed in the town centre.

Palmach

Mikefitzs wrote: »

Here's the problem, it's you and people like you. You're blind to the fact that what little you have in Kilkee is out of date and out of touch with what the public want these days.

Numbers are up year on year for the past 4 years. So I'd say people are very much in touch.

As for Spanish Point, it's a beautiful quaint village that has fantastic top quality accommodation and excellent West Clare hospitality, things that are missing from Kilkee..

No problem with Spanish Point yet they get nowhere near the number of tourists Kilkee get. At one particular talk on eating out in north Clare a restaurateur from Spanish Point admitted they got people who crossed on the fairy to avoid Kilkee as they were always afraid tourists would stop and not go on further. He admitted the tourists offering in Kilkee was superior for the Summer months to anywhere else on the Clare coast. The others in attendance nodded in agreement.

4ensic15 wrote: »

What has been observed by some posters is that the numbers going to Kilkee are dropping and the overall in the town is poor.

I'll repeat. Numbers are up year on year. Yesterday I spoke to a bar owner and it is the busiest September in years.

Mailcoachinn wrote: »

And the wagon from the greyhound with the “nervous hyena laughter” as someone on Facebook brilliantly describes it

There are always small minded idiots. If you knew her you'd know she is incredibly nice and is always helpful.

Mikefitzs wrote: »

. Oh and what idiot decided to hide Harri's statue in the middle of nowhere? It should have been placed in the town centre.

This post sums up how little you know about Kilkee. The statute is at the start of the Cliff Walk which is packed with people all day long in the Summer. There are far more people on that walk than in the town square. The fact you are not aware of this tells me you are simply spoofing about Kilkee.

MarkR

Guys, I haven't read all five pages of this thread, but I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve. I see some quite negative comments abou town being washed into the sea, and more about the quality of someones laugh.

We've a ranting and raving forum if you want that, this isn't the place for it.