Deirdre Jacob missing twenty years Today.

smelly sock

Jeff Devoy wrote: »

As much as I'm suspicious of Larry Murphy's involvement in Deirdre's case, I'd strongly doubt he is involved in all the cases, as some people have suggested. For example, the two women below were believed to be killed by men they knew well:

Fiona Pender - she was seven months pregnant when she disappeared from her home in the town centre of Tullamore. Her then-boyfriend, John Thompson, is believed to have killed and buried her. He lives in Canada now, and recently made the news when his latest partner told police that he admitted killing Fiona and threatened to do the same to her. A makeshift cross in the Slieve Bloom mountains with her name on it was deemed to be a hoax.

Fiona Sinnott - young single mother who went missing after an argument with her ex-partner one night. Though he has never been named as a suspect, it is widely known that he is the only suspect in this case, and he is believed to have killed the mother of his child after a fight. Certain members of his family also believe this, according to newspaper interviews.

Yep i agree with the above. If Larry is suspected of more attacks, which i believe is probable amd likey its more likely Annie McCarrick and Jo Jo Dollard.

Jeff Devoy

smelly sock wrote: »

Yep i agree with the above. If Larry is suspected of more attacks, which i believe is probable amd likey its more likely Annie McCarrick and Jo Jo Dollard.

Wasn't there some sort of Provo connection to Annie McCarrick's disappearance?

Laois_Man

smelly sock wrote: »

Yep i agree with the above. If Larry is suspected of more attacks, which i believe is probable amd likey its more likely Annie McCarrick and Jo Jo Dollard.

Considering Jojo Dollard was last seen less than 9-miles from where LM lived, he's an obvious suspect

Mark Hennessy is probably more of a suspect in the Annie McCarrick case than LM is

freshpopcorn

Jeff Devoy wrote: »

Wasn't there some sort of Provo connection to Annie McCarrick's disappearance?

I heard that on one of those TV3 programs alright.

Strazdas

Laois_Man wrote: »

Considering Jojo Dollard was last seen less than 9-miles from where LM lived, he's an obvious suspect

Mark Hennessy is probably more of a suspect in the Annie McCarrick case than LM is

I was reading a few weeks ago that they could find no evidence to link Hennessy to any crimes bar the murder of Jastine Valdez. It seems he underwent some sort of breakdown or spiralling out of control this year.

Sundew

Laois_Man wrote: »

Mark Hennessy is probably more of a suspect in the Annie McCarrick case than LM is

That’s rubbish! Hennessy would only have been 15 at the time.

freshpopcorn

Laois_Man wrote: »

Considering Jojo Dollard was last seen less than 9-miles from where LM lived, he's an obvious suspect

Mark Hennessy is probably more of a suspect in the Annie McCarrick case than LM is

Wouldn't Mark Hennessy have being in his mid teens then?

Jeff Devoy

Laois_Man wrote: »

Considering Jojo Dollard was last seen less than 9-miles from where LM lived, he's an obvious suspect

Mark Hennessy is probably more of a suspect in the Annie McCarrick case than LM is

JoJo's sister said she thinks she knew who her killer was, and it wasn't Murphy. The sister has since passed away.

freshpopcorn

Jeff Devoy wrote: »

JoJo's sister said she thinks she knew who her killer was, and it wasn't Murphy. The sister has since passed away.

Massive speculation in the area about who it was!

goat2

This gir has been living abroad, knew how to take care and be vigilant, my thinking is, it was someone she knew.

Edgware

Sundew wrote: »

That’s rubbish! Hennessy would only have been 15 at the time.

Don't let a fact like that rule him out. This is After Hours. What about Freddie West? Any way we can throw him in to the line of possibles

nim1bdeh38l2cw

Edgware wrote: »

Chapelizard? Wheres that?

Very close to Chalelizard

dense

Edgware wrote: »

In a few of these cases there are family related issues which would rule out one individual being responsible for all the deaths. We have a number of solved cases where family members had assissted in tidying up the crime scene and disposing of the body.

You mean unsolved cases.



In one such case I know of the family is threatening to publicly name the person they suspect of murder.



I have always respected their restraint thus far.

smelly sock

dense wrote: »

You mean unsolved cases.



In one such case I know of the family is threatening to publicly name the person they suspect of murder.



I have always respected their restraint thus far.

Which case?

Edgware

dense wrote: »

You mean unsolved cases.



In one such case I know of the family is threatening to publicly name the person they suspect of murder.



I have always respected their restraint thus far.

No. I mean solved cases that show what families can get up to preserve the family name, hold on to land in the event of marriagebreak ups, disputes over wills etc. These issues have been the cause of killings before and could be motives in a few of the unsolved cases thus ruling out a link between them all

dark crystal

smelly sock wrote: »

Which case?

Fiona Sinnott I suspect;


https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/views/analysis/fiona-sinnotts-family-we-know-who-murdered-fiona-853823.html

Spanish Eyes

Jeff Devoy wrote: »

JoJo's sister said she thinks she knew who her killer was, and it wasn't Murphy. The sister has since passed away.

Did the detectives follow that up?. Not that it matters but Jojo was reported to have had an abortion just before her disappearance, who was the Daddy?

Jeff Devoy

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Did the detectives follow that up?. Not that it matters but Jojo was reported to have had an abortion just before her disappearance, who was the Daddy?

Where did you hear about the abortion?

freshpopcorn

Jeff Devoy wrote: »

Where did you hear about the abortion?

I was young when if happened but her sister spoke about it in recent years.

by8auj6csd3ioq

"Where did you hear about the abortion?" It was in Village magazine recently article by Gemma O'Doherty. And was in a paper before - Mirror I think or some tabloid

by8auj6csd3ioq

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/family-missing-jo-jo-dullard-9984097

Day Lewin

According to this report, the new evidence includes "credible and corroborated information"
and
"persons of interest" - note, plural.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/deirdre-jacobs-case-reclassified-as-murder-investigation-after-new-information-received-37214006.htmlhttps://www.independent.ie/irish-news/deirdre-jacobs-case-reclassified-as-murder-investigation-after-new-information-received-37214006.html

Laois_Man

Sundew wrote: »

That’s rubbish! Hennessy would only have been 15 at the time.

So you're right.
I thought he was nearer to 50
He looked it!

smelly sock

More....

http://www.thejournal.ie/deirdre-jacobs-murder-investigation-4180730-Aug2018/

smelly sock

I would say its Lar

Join the dots....

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/crime/larry-murphy-rapist-mother-dies-12510277.amp

Strazdas

smelly sock wrote: »

More....

http://www.thejournal.ie/deirdre-jacobs-murder-investigation-4180730-Aug2018/

That sounds like 'you know who'. All of those descriptions in the article point to him.

smelly sock

Strazdas wrote: »

That sounds like 'you know who'. All of those descriptions in the article point to him.

Big time. Snd you'd have to think he is responsible for more Jo Jo Dollard.

smelly sock

I hope the new info and evidence is strong. Otherwise its gonna look shoddy for not going after him much stronger earlier.

If it is LM. The vanishings stopped when he went to prison.

smelly sock

Jo jo dollard was last seen in Moone south kildare. 20-30 mins from Newbridge? Young gilrs dont just vanish.

LM was connected to DJ through the Grandmothers shop no matter how thin.

The girl he was convicted of raping wouldnt have got away but for luck.

I wonder has he confided in someone or some kind of info or evidence was missed / over looked.

Hopefully its the beginning of the end for him.

Strazdas

smelly sock wrote: »

I hope the new info and evidence is strong. Otherwise its gonna look shoddy for not going after him much stronger earlier.

If it is LM. The vanishings stopped when he went to prison.

You'd definitely wonder why the disappearances all stopped abruptly (and never recommenced). Serial killers don't normally retire, they usually keep going until they're eventually caught.

smelly sock

Strazdas wrote: »

You'd definitely wonder why the disappearances all stopped abruptly (and never recommenced). Serial killers don't normally retire, they usually keep going until they're eventually caught.

Its a great little country that a beast like LM can walk the streets after what he done to that lady. End of a rope is what we should have for the like of him.

The_Kew_Tour

For everyone's sake I hope the Bastard is caught.

They know who it is which I hope is giving the individual sleepless nights

Seth Brundle

smelly sock wrote: »

Its a great little country that a beast like LM can walk the streets after what he done to that lady. End of a rope is what we should have for the like of him.

Did you ever discuss sentencing for serious crimes with your TDs?

smelly sock

Seth Brundle wrote: »

Did you ever discuss sentencing for serious crimes with your TDs?

No. Have you?

Ulysses Gaze

I'm surprised that no-one has taken LM out.

Or at the very least hospitalised him.

smelly sock

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

I'm surprised that no-one has taken LM out.

Or at the very least hospitalised him.

Probably get longer in prison than him.

Part of me feels that we really know no more than we did over the course of DJs disappearence. We all pretty much knew LM was a suspect.

I hope this is not the guards just drip feeding info to try and get a response from a criminal without real evidence. That would be cruel on the jacob family.

eviltwin

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/crime/rapist-larry-murphy-chief-suspect-in-murder-case-of-missing-deirdre-jacob-37217917.html

Larry Murphy named as chief suspect.

DarTipp

hopefully the evidence/breakthrough they have is solid, jo jo' family seemed pretty sure that larry murphy wasn't responsible for her disappearance but with the close enough proximity to Deirdre Jacob it made sense for AGS not rule murphy out , if murphy was working in DJ grandmothers shop or went in there often he may have been stalking her like what he was doing with the Carlow woman a few years after

smelly sock

DarTipp wrote: »

hopefully the evidence/breakthrough they have is solid, jo jo' family seemed pretty sure that larry murphy wasn't responsible for her disappearance but with the close enough proximity to Deirdre Jacob it made sense for AGS not rule murphy out , if murphy was working in DJ grandmothers shop or went in there often he may have been stalking her like what he was doing with the Carlow woman a few years after

Yeh but Deirdres parents said the same re LM? Thought I read that anyway. Jo Jo went missing from Moone. Well away from her gome in KK. The chances of her bumping into some she knew in Moone must be remote.

ACAguy

I'm intrigued as to how it's been updated from a missing person to a murder investigation without a body or a known confession?

Trevor Deely investigation is still classed as missing person when they searched for his body lot of media hype about that search and nothing since. the exact same can be said for the case of Tina Satchwell searched for her body but still missing person investigation

murpho999

smelly sock wrote: »

Its a great little country that a beast like LM can walk the streets after what he done to that lady. End of a rope is what we should have for the like of him.

I'm all for proper sentencing but we voted in 2001 to get rid of the death penalty and it's not coming back.

gimli2112

I don't agree with the death penalty but reading about the chief suspect here who is considered "a high risk for reoffending" I wouldn't be bothered.

Beechwoodspark

Should the media be really naming names at this stage of the investigation? For the sake of the investigation would it not be better to say little as possible at this point

SEPT 23 1989

eviltwin wrote: »

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/crime/rapist-larry-murphy-chief-suspect-in-murder-case-of-missing-deirdre-jacob-37217917.html

Larry Murphy named as chief suspect.

Would this be considered another Garda fcuk up?

smelly sock

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Should the media be really naming names at this stage of the investigation? For the sake of the investigation would it not be better to say little as possible at this point

They are obviously getting drip fed info from the Guards.

Heres the thing,

AGS can leak all of this info to the media but they cant tell us what the new evidence is. And probably never will. Something doesnt look right. Why go to the media at all if the information is so strong as to be able to reclass this from missing person to murder.

murpho999

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Would this be considered another Garda fcuk up?

How? What have they done wrong?

smelly sock

murpho999 wrote: »

How? What have they done wrong?

Drip feeding info to the press for a start. What purpose does that serve?

ACAguy

A media article in a certain in the last 3 months had an above named person as living in North County Dublin with a european girlfriend. The same paper today said hes in the UK. It doesn't make sense to me how they can report 2 complete opposites

dense

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Would this be considered another Garda fcuk up?

It does look amateurish. They are preparing to take another look at the CCTV again.

Officers will also re-examine CCTV footage at an Irish Permanent building society premises, which showed Deirdre walking up the main street in Newbridge that afternoon.

I know that journalists have to fill pages, but come on..


This is reading a bit like Ian Bailey all over again, no shred of evidence, but they do have a self made "admission" in odd circumstances and they now finally have a suspect, 20 years after the girl disappeared.



https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/crime/rapist-larry-murphy-chief-suspect-in-murder-case-of-missing-deirdre-jacob-37217917.html

Sweet.Science

The Gardai normally release this information if they want the suspect to do something or go somewhere etc

It wasnt leaked for no reason