Jurassic Werewolf - Isla Tacano

Desmond WW

Derry WW wrote: »

Desmond,

You still seem to think that jello was a task, well, answer the question i posed, what form do you think the task is coming in.

My theory was that it was the amount of times the word was used, it was used quite a bit before I arrived into the thread, but I think i took the mantle pretty quick and i knew it would be suspicious to try to overtake me again.

I don't have tasks, but if there was a post jello the most, i won it..., and there was no munch. yay

As I said, I don't know whether it was a task or not, but given the references in Starter Pack and OP it's possible.

Again, good or bad - I dunno though.

Leaning to the point of ignoring basically everything pre-last night incident though tbh.

Riona WW

Tegan WW wrote: »

Hello genie

Hello shade thrower

Desmond WW

Riona WW wrote: »

Oh and I am never a fan of listing who you trust, even if at this stage nobody is fully trusted as that as has been stated gives Dinowolves more to go off. Kill the trusted and it's harder for a village to come to a concensus on what to do or who to lynch etc

If most people want it though, I guess that will be the way forward. I would be wary of those suggesting it personally if im honest

Why? Wolves know who they are and thus don't care who we as a village trust or don't?

They have this information already - based off the fact that they are, in fact... well, wolves.

So it's a typical misconception that we give wolves more info by town reading players, as they already know this.

Katie WW

Riona WW wrote: »

Oh and I am never a fan of listing who you trust, even if at this stage nobody is fully trusted as that as has been stated gives Dinowolves more to go off. Kill the trusted and it's harder for a village to come to a concensus on what to do or who to lynch etc

If most people want it though, I guess that will be the way forward. I would be wary of those suggesting it personally if im honest

Yeaaaaah, I'd be about the same. Feels like we're creating a feeding list for the baddies....

Brendan WW

Desmond WW wrote: »

But... uh... FFAs aren't all that helpful anyways.

This is probably gonna bring me some heat but it's allowing wolves the opportunity to bandwagon the second a clueless villager (and I include myself in that) fires up an FFA.

I think Derry's proposal of a two way type FFA makes more sense and leads to more discussion.

3 who you think are wolves.
3 who you think are villagers.

I'm not the one who said originally that an FFA wouldn't be much use because of the change in location and the goings on. FFAs aren't always extremely useful but they can help matters at times. Happy to go with Derry's proposal. I'd suggest that if you are putting villagers down who you think might be roled come up with a different reason for putting them down as villagers.

Riona WW

Desmond WW wrote: »

Why? Wolves know who they are and thus don't care who we as a village trust or don't?

They have this information already - based off the fact that they are, in fact... well, wolves.

So it's a typical misconception that we give wolves more info by town reading players, as they already know this.

For example if I believe you are a goodie but im not sure about others I would put more weight behind what you say. If you are munched because a few others stated the same opinion as me then we as a group now have to listen to and potentially follow people we trust less.



As I said if most feel like its a good way forward i'd go with it but at the moment I don't think we gain more than the wolves from it and I don't think the person who suggested it is someone I would have high up a trusted list right now so I am also weary of the suggestion for that reason.

Desmond WW

Ok, so I'm going to use two of the mods as my example for how this 'creating a feeding list' argument makes no sense, so it cannot be construed I am throwing shade on players.

Pter and duffman are wolves. They know this and thus know all the rest of the players are villagers regardless.

They don't know the roles, correct. But they already have that information, so how is it 'creating a feedlist'?

They already know this information.

Derry WW

Brendan WW wrote: »

I'm not the one who said originally that an FFA wouldn't be much use because of the change in location and the goings on. FFAs aren't always extremely useful but they can help matters at times. Happy to go with Derry's proposal. I'd suggest that if you are putting villagers down who you think might be roled come up with a different reason for putting them down as villagers.

I suggest giving no reasons for why someone is good. I don't see why that would help.


Reasons only for why someone is bad, not why someone is good.


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Riona WW

Also I always think FFAs are a good idea even if we maybe dont have a lot to go off. They make people on them react which can be noteworthy and we can gather info on later days based on who people FFA'd on day 1. I would not advocate having to stick to your FFA however as a lot can change between a day 1 FFA and a day 1 lynch

Those you dont want to give info such as what can be garnered from FFAs might have something to hide

Desmond WW

Riona WW wrote: »

For example if I believe you are a goodie but im not sure about others I would put more weight behind what you say. If you are munched because a few others stated the same opinion as me then we as a group now have to listen to and potentially follow people we trust less.



As I said if most feel like its a good way forward i'd go with it but at the moment I don't think we gain more than the wolves from it and I don't think the person who suggested it is someone I would have high up a trusted list right now so I am also weary of the suggestion for that reason.

Then if I get munched as a result, you follow what I was saying, as it might be correct

Tegan WW

The wolves reading the thread will already know who the leader types are so putting the name on a list makes no difference. Making note of the names of people against for future reference...

Brendan WW

Derry WW wrote: »

How about a new form of ffa,


One were you name 3 of your most likely villagers, each get -1 score,
and three of your most likely wolves, each get 1.


People with top 3 scores are in contention for the lynch?

Derry WW wrote: »

I suggest giving no reasons for why someone is good. I don't see why that would help.


Reasons only for why someone is bad, not why someone is good.


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Sorry, when I saw new form of FFA, I assumed there would be reasons. I get it now though, just you didn't exactly make it too clear in your original idea.

Desmond WW

Riona WW wrote: »

Also I always think FFAs are a good idea even if we maybe dont have a lot to go off. They make people on them react which can be noteworthy and we can gather info on later days based on who people FFA'd on day 1. I would not advocate having to stick to your FFA however as a lot can change between a day 1 FFA and a day 1 lynch

Those you dont want to give info such as what can be garnered from FFAs might have something to hide

I don't have an idea with the concept of the FFA, I just feel it's a feeding ground for bandwagons.

The concept of FFA, iirc is to generate discussion. Though I feel that recently people see it as the only tool to find wolves and that's just simply not the case.

Creating an (even tentative) village core is more important.

I'm coming at the game from a different angle, treating everyone as a villager until I see something suspicious.

So far, I find Isla's antics to be the most suspicious. Then there's Derry to a degree. There's also another I was suss of but they're on the other island so not much I can do about that for now.

Desmond WW

Blargh: *don't have a problem with the concept of the FFA ^^^^

Derry WW

Brendan WW wrote: »

Sorry, when I saw new form of FFA, I assumed there would be reasons. I get it now though, just you didn't exactly make it too clear in your original idea.

One last thing, you can't name yourself for -1. That's pointless for info gathering.

Henry WW

The problem I find with creating a trust list, is it can give the wolves an order list on who to munch first and keep for later.

Besides, a very good baddies could wiggle their way onto the list and sail to the final.

Desmond WW

So Derry's idea is (correct me here Derry if I'm incorrect):

Name 3 players you think are likely to be wolves, and provide reasoning.

Name 3 players you think are villagers - do not provide reasoning.

You cannot name yourself as a vanillager.

People with the most points against them near EOD are up for lynching.

It's for now a 12 player game so this, imo makes a lot of sense.

Riona WW

Tegan WW wrote: »

The wolves reading the thread will already know who the leader types are so putting the name on a list makes no difference. Making note of the names of people against for future reference...

Sure why not also make a list of people in favor tbh. I see merits in both sides of the arguement. This has been suggested in other games before and neither side ever seem to budge which is unfortunate as then this suggestion takes up much of the conversation instead of erratic behavior.


For example since the change in venue has Isla mentioned if she still wants to be killed? I know she was asked since then.


I feel like I am blind, where is the info on the new island in the welcome pack? it wasn't updated was it?

Desmond WW

Tbh, while we are discussing the pros and cons of this strategy, I feel unless Isla speaks up she's going to be an easy bandwagon for wolves/lazy villagers tonight regardless.

So Detective Isla, pull up a chair, sit down and have a chat with us.

Do you still want to be lynched? If so, why?

If not, what has changed?

I'm taking your badge, officer.

Conor WW

I am incredibly confused.

I’ll need to read thru the thread and see who is here and who is not. I spent ages going through the thread last night to get reads on people and now I’m not even sure if they’re on this island

Desmond WW

Conor WW wrote: »

I am incredibly confused.

I’ll need to read thru the thread and see who is here and who is not. I spent ages going through the thread last night to get reads on people and now I’m not even sure if they’re on this island

I'll save you the time Conor:

Brendan WW
Abigail WW
Desmond WW
Tegan WW
Katie WW
Conor WW
Isla WW
Holly WW
Doris WW
Henry WW
Riona WW
Derry WW

Katie WW

Conor WW wrote: »

I am incredibly confused.

I’ll need to read thru the thread and see who is here and who is not. I spent ages going through the thread last night to get reads on people and now I’m not even sure if they’re on this island

"Oh look at how innocent I am with my confusion."

You're moving into my suspects column for this post...

Brendan WW

Riona WW wrote: »

Sure why not also make a list of people in favor tbh. I see merits in both sides of the arguement. This has been suggested in other games before and neither side ever seem to budge which is unfortunate as then this suggestion takes up much of the conversation instead of erratic behavior.

I think we should give it a go. May as well give it a whirl. It's not like the standard FFA works every time.

Tegan WW

Desmond WW wrote: »

Tbh, while we are discussing the pros and cons of this strategy, I feel unless Isla speaks up she's going to be an easy bandwagon for wolves/lazy villagers tonight regardless.

So Detective Isla, pull up a chair, sit down and have a chat with us.

Do you still want to be lynched? If so, why?

If not, what has changed?

I'm taking your badge, officer.

She only had three days until retirement!!!

Henry WW

I know it was mentioned yesterday, and there was a character like this before, what if Isla's character wins the game if lynched, but we don't find out until the game is over.

We need to hear if Isla stills wants to be lynched.

Riona WW

Seems like this has been closed for the momet at least

Derry seems to be the other most suspected atm. Derry If you thought that there was a Jello related task why list ways someone could try to complete a Jello task and give examples? surely you would think that if others thought such a task was going on that might make it look like you were trying ot slip one by too.

Katie: You ended up right about Babs but, and I'm sorry if you already answered this in a clear manner, why exactly did you suggest she would end up dead? That too would be something that I would expect to bring heat on someone. I actually thought that the Wolves would munch babs to throw shade on you if you were good until she caught the Ferry back to the mainland, or whatever flavor brought her home.

Desmond WW

I don't think we're allowed to discuss the modkill, Riona There were threats of dinosaurs sitting on people made last night.

Desmond WW

Henry WW wrote: »

I know it was mentioned yesterday, and there was a character like this before, what if Isla's character wins the game if lynched, but we don't find out until the game is over.

We need to hear if Isla stills wants to be lynched.

Possible Jester role, yes I'm concerned re: that too. If we had a vig amongst us, unless Isla wants to give some better answers that might be a better move to make than lynching her as she so badly wanted until this morning, at least.

Riona WW

Desmond WW wrote: »

I don't think we're allowed to discuss the modkill, Riona There were threats of dinosaurs sitting on people made last night.

Well wasn't discussing the mod kill more why Katie suggested Babs would wind up dead prior to that. I very much so doubt Katie had any knowledge about whatever lead to mod action.



I know that unless I was ready for people to accuse me I would not suggest someone could die soon

Triceratops Ballet

Riona WW wrote: »

Seems like this has been closed for the momet at least

Derry seems to be the other most suspected atm. Derry If you thought that there was a Jello related task why list ways someone could try to complete a Jello task and give examples? surely you would think that if others thought such a task was going on that might make it look like you were trying ot slip one by too.

Katie: You ended up right about Babs but, and I'm sorry if you already answered this in a clear manner, why exactly did you suggest she would end up dead? That too would be something that I would expect to bring heat on someone. I actually thought that the Wolves would munch babs to throw shade on you if you were good until she caught the Ferry back to the mainland, or whatever flavor brought her home.

MOD

Riona, please don't post about this as per mod instructions yesterday. Katie, do not answer this