Do you look down on people with tattoos?

witchgirl26

JayZeus wrote: »

She got it years before she met me. She wouldn’t get one now. In the same way as she might dye her hair purple, get her face pierced or whatever, I’m perfectly within my rights to decide what I find to be ugly. If she wants to do stupid things like that, she can make a bed for herself on the couch. If roles were reversed, I’d accept the same. She told me I was getting fat. I was. I sorted it out and did what I needed to so she wouldn’t lose physical attraction as a consequence. Fair is fair.

As for tattoos, might be fine for pornstars but most people getting tattooed would look better if they had a haircut and dressed like adults instead of trying to look like a scumbag or a whore.

Woah just woah. How do tattoos make people look any less of an adult?! And where do you get off with that sweeping statement?

You would seriously make your wife sleep on the sofa if she got another tattoo? That's a bit mad. Did she make you sleep on the sofa when she said that? And how superficial are you that a tattoo would lead your marriage to that point? Surely you know and love your wife for the person she is and not just her physical appearance.

Her physical appearance is part of who she is.

Billy86

JayZeus wrote: »

She got it years before she met me. She wouldn’t get one now. In the same way as she might dye her hair purple, get her face pierced or whatever, I’m perfectly within my rights to decide what I find to be ugly. If she wants to do stupid things like that, she can make a bed for herself on the couch. If roles were reversed, I’d accept the same. She told me I was getting fat. I was. I sorted it out and did what I needed to so she wouldn’t lose physical attraction as a consequence. Fair is fair.

As for tattoos, might be fine for pornstars but most people getting tattooed would look better if they had a haircut and dressed like adults instead of trying to look like a scumbag or a whore.

That says an awful lot more about you than it does anyone with a different hairstyle or any tattoos. And to be clear I have no tattoos and short black hair brushed to the side.

Blazer

The reason Ronaldo doesn’t have tattooes is so he can be a blood donor. Also has donated bone marrow for a team mates child.
I think that’s pretty cool.

pawdee

I've been thinking about getting a tattoo for ages. I want to get a tiny one of a food mixer on my kneecap.

Uncle_moe

People who don't get tattoos are idiots.

Obviously they're not, but hopefully it will show some people how utterly moronic their arguments are.

Uncle_moe

Uncle_moe wrote: »

People who don't get tattoos are idiots.

Obviously they're not, but hopefully it will show some people how utterly moronic their arguments are.

Let me guess. A dolphin? Skull and tophat? Inane text?

GavRedKing

Blazer wrote: »

The reason Ronaldo doesn’t have tattooes is so he can be a blood donor. Also has donated bone marrow for a team mates child.
I think that’s pretty cool.

You can donate blood if you've a tattoo.

Its an only issue if you've gotten a tattoo within the last 3 months or so.

Edit : Its 4 months

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/health/health_services/blood_and_organ_donation/blood_donation.html

TerrorFirmer

You're perfectly entitled to dislike or hate tattoos but actually telling your wife that the small tattoo she got before she met you has to be removed before you'll allow her cut her hair short - and if she wants to dye her hair a vibrant color she can sleep on the couch - screams 'control freak' in the most alarming and disturbing way possible.

Hopefully that's all just high level trolling, I despair to think people are involved in such relationships with such intolerant, self-centered people.

Uncle_moe

JayZeus wrote: »

Let me guess. A dolphin? Skull and tophat? Inane text?

How did you guess? Thinking of a tribal one on my face next, you know a bit of a mauri look.

This is really a rather wild concept but did you ever think your life would be easier if you just stopped worrying / being annoyed by other people's appearances?

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I love them way when I express honestly what my opinions are regarding tattoos and give a personal example of how little regard I have for people who see fit to get them, suddenly a bunch of strangers on the internet think they have some valid insight into my marriage, because I wrote about my wife’s tattoo instead of some random stranger. I hate ALL tattoos equally and I think less of someone who is ‘into’ them than not.

I guess that just goes to prove my point about the kind of people who think tattoos are a good idea. My view is at odds with yours, so be it. But all of ye with stupid little doodles that you think is some kind of personal expression, saying people should care less, you all seem to care much more than you initially let on.

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iamwhoiam

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All you have shown is that you have little regard for your wife by speaking about her like she is your property with no choices in her own appearance.

And also shown he craves attention and goes for the shock factor to get it .

take everything

Not mad about tattoos myself but each to their own.

I would be lying however if I said it didn't affect how I viewed someone.

Unconsciously, no more than the clothes someone wears, their haircut, jewellery, piercings etc unconsciously or consciously affect your view of someone.

Not saying necessarily good or bad, but people are lying if they say it doesn't affect their perception of someone.

Again maybe for some it just means the person is interesting etc.

But personally for me, I wonder why people get any sort of an adornment at all. Be that makeup, jewellery, piercings, tattoos, whatever. It always strikes me as (and please do not kill me for this) "I'm not worthy, i need to adorn/beautify myself". Why not just embrace and love yourself as you are.

Now in fairness im being a bit provocative saying that but I think there's a grain of truth in there. I do think there's a self-esteem thing with most of this stuff.

I'm going to get killed for this post. I'm being (partly) pierced tongue-in cheek.

I'm completely unadorned and ****ing amazing.

Water John

If you, Jay have a child or one of their partners chooses this option in life are they downgraded in your estimation or simply removed from your environment totally?
My daughter in law has tattoos, what it to me, she's a lovely and kind person.

Dramatik

I always hear it will look **** when you're older, that's not necessarily true, it depends on the design, the tattoo artist, the placement, whether the person used propper care for the tattoo over the years and even things like how much the tattoo has been exposed to sun over time. So saying every tattoo will be **** when you are older is an untrue statement. Also you can have a touch up done on an old tattoo if it's starting to fade or even have it re-worked is the desire is so. So the chances are that the horrible tattoo on that old person was horrible in the first place and also probably not looked after over the years, that's why it looks ****ty. People weren't told how to look after their tattoos back then and they didn't know as much about how tattoos age over time, as artists do these days. If the person getting the tattoo has made the right choices there is no reason that the tattoo will not stand the test of time

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iamwhoiam

iamwhoiam wrote: »

And also shown he craves attention and goes for the shock factor to get it .

Would you ever go away out of that. My view might shock you but that’s hardly my intention. I care little for your opinion and not at all for your reaction.

As for my wife, what would you suggest I do to distort my correct use of language so it meets your ridiculous expectations?

Tattoos are horrible. If my spouse/wife/woman/ball-and-chain got another, knowing my disdain for them, you’re damned right she’d be sleeping on the couch.

Same goes for cutting her hair as short as a man. If I grew my hair long or deliberately made a significant change to my appearance in a way she has told me (and she did so when I was getting fat), I’d have little to stand on by way of argument.

You’re supposed to find your partner physically attractive. Short hair, bright hair dye, face/body piercings and tattoos are ugly to my eyes. She knows that, so if she makes that decision she’ll live with the consequences, including being told to **** right off and sleep on the couch.

Water John

Water John wrote: »

If you, Jay have a child or one of their partners chooses this option in life are they downgraded in your estimation or simply removed from your environment totally?
My daughter in law has tattoos, what it to me, she's a lovely and kind person.

Not removed, not at all. My wife and I made certain commitments, knowing what’s okay and what’s not with each other. Different kind of relationship there entirely.

Now, will I think less of them, particularly in their ability to make smart decisions? Yeah, probably. Their fault, not mine.

TerrorFirmer

Including applying your standards retroactively....eg, you literally said that she's not allowed to get her hair cut short because it'll reveal an old tattoo she got before she met you.

Did she tell you to sleep on the couch until you lost all the extra weight? Or insist that you only wear baggy clothes so she doesn't have to look at it?

iamwhoiam

JayZeus wrote: »

Would you ever go away out of that. My view might shock you but that’s hardly my intention. I care little for your opinion and not at all for your reaction.

As for my wife, what would you suggest I do to distort my correct use of language so it meets your ridiculous expectations?

Tattoos are horrible. If my spouse/wife/woman/ball-and-chain got another, knowing my disdain for them, you’re damned right she’d be sleeping on the couch.

Same goes for cutting her hair as short as a man. If I grew my hair long or deliberately made a significant change to my appearance in a way she has told me (and she did so when I was getting fat), I’d have little to stand on by way of argument.

You’re supposed to find your partner physically attractive. Short hair, bright hair dye, face/body piercings and tattoos are ugly to my eyes. She knows that, so if she makes that decision she’ll live with the consequences, including being told to **** right off and sleep on the couch.

I rest my case .

TerrorFirmer

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

Including applying your standards retroactively....eg, you literally said that she's not allowed to get her hair cut short because it'll reveal an old tattoo she got before she met you.

Did she tell you to sleep on the couch until you lost all the extra weight? Or insist that you only wear baggy clothes so she doesn't have to look at it?

I got a few verbal warning digs from her. Fair enough, she was right so I took care of it.

She can shave her head and get a tattoo of a big hairy cock on her head if she wants. It’s stupid to basically say I should be happy to go to bed with someone who would do something to deliberately make herself ugly to me. Couch time. Out you get until your hair grows back. Jesus.

Yeah, extreme example, but she’ll have the same reaction if she gets ANY tattoo, ever again, or does anything that increases how visible her existing ‘tramp stamp’ is. She knows it, there was no ambiguity since long before we got married. It’s all right there in the verbal terms and conditions of our contract with each other. Penalties will be applied for breach of terms.

irishproduce

I'm with jay.
They're hideous deplorable attention seeking beacons and so should be hidden out of shame for getting one in the first place.

iamwhoiam

iamwhoiam wrote: »

I rest my case .

Good move.

Mozzeltoff

Resverathrole wrote: »

A lot of people won't like what I'm about to say. I'm in Dublin at the moment and it's almost as if, that if you want to be cool and modern then you need to get a tattoo. I even find myself seeing guys with tattoos who don't seem to fit the stereotype for getting a tattoo! I even over heard a conversation recently where by a group of lads were confused why Ronaldo doesn't have tattoos!!

When I see senior managers with tattoos I often think to myself "fair play to you for getting so far, it's a pity you had to let yourself down with that disgusting ink marking on your wrist. That's how I know this is far as you'll get". They won't get to be CEO! Especially if they also say "I done"

When I see tattoos, all I think is that such a person is likely from a certain social class, that they're a trend follower, that they probably smoke, or that they're seeking validation of some sort. Effectively, tattoos all look the same, and all look horrible. I don't think much people pay attention to what the tattoos are, and more so "oh he's got a tattoo"

Says more about you OP than it does about people with tattoos..

Mam of 4

irishproduce wrote: »

I'm with jay.
They're hideous deplorable attention seeking beacons and so should be hidden out of shame for getting one in the first place.

I always wanted to be a beacon of light in this dark , narrow minded world , now I know I can

Blazer

GavRedKing wrote: »

You can donate blood if you've a tattoo.

Its an only issue if you've gotten a tattoo within the last 3 months or so.

Edit : Its 4 months

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/health/health_services/blood_and_organ_donation/blood_donation.html

That’s the Irish blood board
Last time I checked Ronaldo played in Spain where he was a regular donor and now he’s in Italy.

Deusexmachina

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Do you think older people stop caring abut their appearance? You must be young.

Deusexmachina

Does having a tattoo effect intelligence?

Many posters on here cannot seem to grasp that they will be judged if they have an obvious visible tattoo.

Straight away they are back with 'I don't care about those small minded judgemental people and their opinions ..etc ..etc"

If you don't care, why the anger?

You will be judged - not everybody thinks tattoos look good. Many people think they look ugly and you look stupid for having one.

Personally, I think they can look okay but I would not like to label myself permanently like that. seems very shortsighted to me.

Trends change. I can remember when most guys got earrings (in one ear), when mullets were cool, when high waist trousers and doc martins was a good look... or skinheads, mohawks, punks, rastas, mods, goths....etc.

Strabanimal

Was a big part of the bodybuilding community whilst in Uni and they hated them. Still got nearly two full arm sleeves. When you have enough money you don't have to work anymore at 27 but still do, you tend to not care what people think. Also they're always covered by shirts whilst working or a jacket whilst out and about.

Hellrazer

JayZeus wrote: »

Can’t stand tattoos. A properly stupid thing to do to yourself. My wife has a very small tattoo of a little bird on her upper back (really very small, but I absolutely hate it and when I spot it I immediately think she’s a muppet for ever getting it done) and wanted to get her hair cut to shoulder length. I told her to do whatever she wants, no worries at all, but she knows she’ll be sleeping on the couch if she cuts her hair short before getting that proxy tattoo removed. No discussion to be had as far as I’m concerned. She’ll pay for the removal herself too. Or she’ll keep her hair down and cover up the evidence of a stupid decision to get graffiti on her lovely skin. I’m mad about her, but that tattoo (and 99.999% of the crappy ones people get and display like idiots) absolutely makes me look down my nose at the tattood fool in front of me. Stupid people.

So how many black eyes has your wife ever had from "walking into things"

Control freak.

LirW

Jesus, so glad I'm with a really chill guy who helps with my haircuts.

jobbridge4life

take everything wrote: »

Not mad about tattoos myself but each to their own.

I would be lying however if I said it didn't affect how I viewed someone.

Unconsciously, no more than the clothes someone wears, their haircut, jewellery, piercings etc unconsciously or consciously affect your view of someone.

Not saying necessarily good or bad, but people are lying if they say it doesn't affect their perception of someone.

I really don't accept the bolded. You have no right, nor do any of us, to declare with such assumed authority what other people feel.

It affects how you feel about people, it may affect how many, perhaps all, of your acquaintances view people, but that is not remotely evidence that everyone reacts in that way.

Hellrazer

Hellrazer wrote: »

So how many black eyes has your wife ever had from "walking into things"

Control freak.

Because I (and she, as it so happens) think it’s reasonable to expect somebody will maintain where practical the physical attributes that attracted and continue to attract us to each other, natural aging and accidents and the like aside? Cop on to yourself.

If she had 7 toes on her left foot, I’d insist she wear socks and not wear sandals, as I’d find the deformity disgusting to look at. If I had an extra pair of nipples or a vagina instead of a naval, it’d be pretty reasonable for her to insist I wore a shirt, even on the beach. If I later decided to just do it anyway, I’d be doing it knowing that I have every right to do so but It wouldn’t be right and consequences of that bad decision could reasonably follow.

All we’re talking about here is her deliberate defacement of her lovely self being something I find repulsive, and I want her to do as I asked and she agreed. And she does, in all fairness to her.

It’s not controlling to expect an agreement will be kept and I’m certainly not some sort of wifebeater. That’s a bit of a pathetic angle for someone (especially a Mod) to take, AH or not. Go take your smarmy outrage someplace else.

take everything

jobbridge4life wrote: »

I really don't accept the bolded. You have no right, nor do any of us, to declare with such assumed authority what other people feel.

It affects how you feel about people, it may affect how many, perhaps all, of your acquaintances view people, but that is not remotely evidence that everyone reacts in that way.

Yeah someone's appearance doesn't affect others in any way.

Why everyone wears t-shirts to interviews I suppose.

Ridiculous if you think clothing, accessories, appearance in general has no effect on people's emotions/what judgements they make.

The very reason for clothing/accessorising/body modification is social/emotional.

Hellrazer

JayZeus wrote: »

It’s not controlling to expect an agreement will be kept and I’m certainly not some sort of wifebeater. That’s a bit of a pathetic angle for someone (especially a Mod) to take, AH or not. Go take your smarmy outrage someplace else.

Sounds quite controlling.
And I'm only a mod of the forums I moderate.

Hellrazer

Hellrazer wrote: »

Sounds quite controlling.
And I'm only a mod of the forums I moderate.

Sounds controlling to you, but then you only have a tiny snippet to go on, against which you label me a control freak and suggest I’m a wifebeater. ****ty, pathetic move to be fair, Mod or not.

LirW

What do people that hate tattoos think of the profession itself? I mean someone has to do them and there's a huge difference in skill in tattoo artists.

Water John

So any of the people on TV with a deformity should cover it up? You consider viewing it, as disgusting. Don't watch the paraolympics, you'll be totally offended.

LirW

LirW wrote: »

What do people that hate tattoos think of the profession itself? I mean someone has to do them and there's a huge difference in skill in tattoo artists.

It’s not a profession, for a start.

iamwhoiam

LirW wrote: »

Jesus, so glad I'm with a really chill guy who helps with my haircuts.

I am just so glad to be with a man who respects me and my choices . Some posts here make me really sad . I am so glad my daughters are with men who are partners and supportive of their choices too . Then again they have their father as a role model . I can't even imagine them in a partnership like some here

Turnipman

JayZeus wrote: »

If I had an extra pair of nipples or a vagina instead of a naval, it’d be pretty reasonable for her to insist I wore a shirt, even on the beach.

A naval what? Flotilla? So how many destroyers have you? Do you play with them in your bath?

LirW

JayZeus wrote: »

It’s not a profession, for a start.

Actually it is. Reputable artists do an apprenticeship and all sorts of exams, it's not as strict in Ireland as in other countries but I know a guy who's a tattoo artist (went to school with him) and you need to do a proper theory course after 3 years of practical experience for a year involving medicine modules and have a theoretical and practical exam in front of a commission. Then you can call yourself a proper tattoo artist.

brendanwalsh

Tattoos are for gurriers and low life's. That's the stereotype and unfortunately it's True. People who take drugs and aren't in white collar professions have Tattoos.

Tattoos and the professional work environment don't go.

They look fine if you work as a mechanic, but not as a lawyer.

Water John

Water John wrote: »

So any of the people on TV with a deformity should cover it up? You consider viewing it, as disgusting. Don't watch the paraolympics, you'll be totally offended.

Don’t be silly now.

I don’t watch the paraplympics and honestly I wouldn’t choose someone with what I would personally see as an ugly or repulsive physical deformity as a partner. Nothing at all wrong with that position.

To make a clear distinction, I don’t look down my nose at people with naturally occuring deformity, whether or not it accompanies a medical condition. That’s just how things are.

I absolutely look down my nose (as such) at people who inflict a deformity on themselves, be it tattoos, piercings or other body modifications.

Turnipman

Turnipman wrote: »

A naval what? Flotilla? So how many destroyers have you? Do you play with them in your bath?

Autocorrect, be damned.

LirW

LirW wrote: »

Actually it is. Reputable artists do an apprenticeship and all sorts of exams, it's not as strict in Ireland as in other countries but I know a guy who's a tattoo artist (went to school with him) and you need to do a proper theory course after 3 years of practical experience for a year involving medicine modules and have a theoretical and practical exam in front of a commission. Then you can call yourself a proper tattoo artist.

It’s going OT now but an apprenticeship as a ‘Tattoo Artist’ does not equate to a profession. He/she may well adopt a very professional approach to being a ‘Tattoo Artist’, but that occupation is not a profession.

K.Flyer

brendanwalsh wrote: »

Tattoos are for gurriers and low life's. That's the stereotype and unfortunately it's True. People who take drugs and aren't in white collar professions have Tattoos.

Tattoos and the professional work environment don't go.

They look fine if you work as a mechanic, but not as a lawyer.

what rubbish have I just read.

So by your reckoning, a white collar worket or an executive who is hooked on drugs is alright in your book, but if he or she has a tattoo, then they are a lowlife..
You need to go back to trolling classes.

LirW

JayZeus wrote: »

It’s going OT now but an apprenticeship as a ‘Tattoo Artist’ does not equate to a profession. He/she may well adopt a very professional approach to being a ‘Tattoo Artist’, but that occupation is not a profession.

I think you got the point, excuse me using the wrong word, English isn't my first language after all.
I'd still be curious to hear an opinion.