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Star Trek: Picard - Amazon Prime [** POSSIBLE SPOILERS **]
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I must be in the minority that thought the last episode was one of the better ones and I would give the show a delusional 5/10 overall.
Friends of mine who would have been Trek fans with me in school seem to think it's good so it is of course subjective. Maybe Sub Rosa was one of their favourite TNG episodes :P
I'll see your "Sub Rosa", and raise you a "Shades of Grey"
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Click bait mate, I've not signed anything official yet...
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nyarlothothep wrote: »Secondary edit: What happened to Seven's dermal regeneration suit? She almost died when her ocular implant began to fail and she needed a backup on from Icheb, so how could she survive without the outfit the Doctor designed for her?
+1 on your summation of Picard. Nicely done
Regarding Seven's suit. I had always assumed that repairing her skin was one of the easier jobs to de-Borgify her, but that heavy duty modifications such as her Cordical Node could not be replaced. My guess is that in-universe, the cat-suit was more of a choice after the first couple of years as an ex-Borg.
But production-wise, I think I read once that the cat-suit was so tightly put onto Jeri Ryan that she'd have a lot of difficulties during shoots, possibly even resulting in her fainting on some occasions. I'd understand with them doing away with a costume what was primarily geared towards into turning this new character into eye-candy. She's well established now as a character in her own right.
Much like T'pol should have after she had joined Starfleet, I feel like Seven should have probably switched from her catsuit to a standard Fleet uniform once it was possible (I think she was officially a "Crewman" / NCO on Voyager)0 -
+1 on your summation of Picard. Nicely done
Regarding Seven's suit. I had always assumed that repairing her skin was one of the easier jobs to de-Borgify her, but that heavy duty modifications such as her Cordical Node could not be replaced. My guess is that in-universe, the cat-suit was more of a choice after the first couple of years as an ex-Borg.
But production-wise, I think I read once that the cat-suit was so tightly put onto Jeri Ryan that she'd have a lot of difficulties during shoots, possibly even resulting in her fainting on some occasions. I'd understand with them doing away with a costume what was primarily geared towards into turning this new character into eye-candy. She's well established now as a character in her own right.
Much like T'pol should have after she had joined Starfleet, I feel like Seven should have probably switched from her catsuit to a standard Fleet uniform once it was possible (I think she was officially a "Crewman" / NCO on Voyager)
Hahaha, yeah, that makes sense. I didn't know she fainted though! I always thought the catsuit was ridiculous, in the same way that Troi's was, T'Pol's was a bit more subtle as I remember it.
Another thing Picard did well, was something that could be called "late style". Insofar as I understand it, a lot of writers when they get really old start to have a "late style" where they contemplate mortality, the way the world is vs what they wanted it to be in their younger days, their life's work etc and it's coloured by melancholy. I think Picard is really about that and although I wonder why Data can't just be downloaded into a new body or why he actually wanted to die because he somehow concluded life only has meaning through death (there's no reason to think this), I thought his send off was a resolution to what went down in Nemesis.
The show conveyed a kind of continuity/legacy aspect to the generational dimension of humanity. Picard et al used to be the "next generation", they tried to improve their universe and they're kinda bowing out now for the next generation but not until they've "taught them lessons by example". That's another positive, they actually have good new characters to work with, vastly better than those in STD, but to realise their full potential there needs to be a better show runner who has respect for Trek canon and principles and who is also talented, not a hack and listens to the fans.0 -
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ST: Picard was basically a Star Trek movie told slowly. If they had made another film after Nemesis, I could easily expect it to have a lot of the same story as this series. "The Search for Data", essentially.
In that context I think it was fine. It was a decent Star Trek TNG movie plot.
Problem is that even the best Star Trek TNG movie plots, and even the TOS movie plots, just don't compare to the series. They never have. I think everyone acknowledges that Star Trek works best on the small screen. Episodic adventures. New worlds. New discoveries. Some variety each week.
Now, very unfortunately, we do have Star Trek back on the telly – but it's movie Star Trek, just told slowly. Discovery is pretty much the same.
My other major complaint is that I bloody well liked the "no conflict among the crew" and idealised utopia of TOS and TNG. I know DS9 gets a lot of praise but I think it was the first one to really break the mould on that. And you see some of the great Trek writers like Ronald D. Moore scoffing at Gene's no-conflict rules and how liberating it was to abandon those... but **** it, go write a different show then (and he did, in fairness!
BSG!).
DS9 was a good show but I really missed that vision of what we could become, as unrealistic as it might have been. The movies never cared about that because there wasn't enough time for it in the ~2 hour blockbuster. And these new series are less interesting for having abandoned it altogether.0 -
It depends what you mean by conflict. Rodenberry's idea of no conflict was everybody gets along and there's rarely even disagreement beyond "ye cannae break the laws o physics cap'n." There's a lot of scope between that and outright mutiny.My other major complaint is that I bloody well liked the "no conflict among the crew" and idealised utopia of TOS and TNG. I know DS9 gets a lot of praise but I think it was the first one to really break the mould on that. And you see some of the great Trek writers like Ronald D. Moore scoffing at Gene's no-conflict rules and how liberating it was to abandon those... but **** it, go write a different show then (and he did, in fairness! BSG!).0 -
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This review is excellent, best part "when did Star Trek become so fcking mundane and petty" (basically the early 21st century right now). And yes to his analysis of seven, she really does go from a cool, reserved and rational character to a cynical, sarcastic alcoholic. STP is not Star Trek, Alex Kurtzman is just taking the name and abusing it for his own show (except he lacked to imagination to create his own universe).
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I tried watching that author's videos before, but his style is cynical and abhorrent. In fact it feels rich that he'd comment on this more dystopian view of Treks world, when its channels like his that perpetuate the cycle of negativity within the pop culture zeitgeist. Negativity sells. YouTube is awash with "critics" or outrage merchants who get off on slamming everything, screaming about SJWs, picking holes, pulling up supposed "plot holes" or what have you. There are about 2, 3 channels I'll watch re. pop culture criticism who have decidedly sober, thoughtful approaches like Lindsey Ellis or Patrick H Willems. The rest is just screeching white noise as unpleasant as any number of Trek admirals saying "F*ck". Picard has its problems, but so has the wider world of entertainment.
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