Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2018/2019 [Mod note 31-Aug-18]

For me it's not a matter of either or.
Martial is his own individual.

I don't need some poor performances form Sanchez to make a decision on another player.

Martials biggest problem is he creates problems for team balance.

When players are forced to cover for him the rest of team suffers.

Shanchez creates more chances in the team then any other player, he might give the ball away a lot cheaply, but he is contributing attacking wise

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Richard Keys calling out Souness criticising Pogba on Bein sports.

"No matter what he does, he's always on his case".

Andy Gray on Souness preferring to play against Pogba than Milner: "No,if you want someone to do something to win a game,you want Pogba".

Bein sports calling out Souness on bias

DM_7

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Shanchez creates more chances in the team then any other player, he might give the ball away a lot cheaply but he is creating but he is contributing attacking wise

In the system United have his play is important especially with Shaw and Lingard in the side. He is much better at playing a creative pass to a runner when coming inside from the left than Martial.

Wolves are an interesting side for United to play against with their set up.

DM_7

DM_7 wrote: »

In the system United have his play is important especially with Shaw and Lingard in the side. He is much better at playing a creative pass to a runner when coming inside from the left than Martial.

Wolves are an interesting side for United to play against with their set up.

Ya Im a little worried given how well Wolves have played in all their games, they are super on the ball but do seem to lack finishers. I'm interested to see if Fellaini will be used to by pass the press if they come out pressing hard off the bat

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Fred The Red wrote: »

Bein sports calling out Souness on bias

Zerked it.:)

bucketybuck

Deleted User wrote: »

Shanchez creates more chances in the team then any other player, he might give the ball away a lot cheaply, but he is contributing attacking wise

I have a feeling Sanchez is entering a Torres/Shevchenko type decline and won't be that super player he was a few years ago, but it is actually true that even in bad games he is creating chances for people. I don't know his stats, but game after game it is commented upon that if this chance or that chance had been taken Sanchez would be walking away with 2/3 assists despite playing poorly. That counts for something, especially when the other option is the magician Martial. (His magic trick is a disappearing act...)

discobeaker

Wonderful to see sir Alex back in the stands.

PhlegmyMoses

Hopefully ref cracks down on the reset fouls from Wolves.

Should have had a free for that Valencia one as well

Rossi IRL

Shaw will need to be very careful against Helder Costa

PhlegmyMoses

I am so bored of the deep defending and the counter attack game every team plays against us these days. Hopefully we get a goal early to make the game open up

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sign the ref is ****ing awful

JaMarcus

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

I am so bored of the deep defending and the counter attack game every team plays against us these days. Hopefully we get a goal early to make the game open up

I miss the days that doing that was a recipe for disaster! We just have an enormous lack of creativity from midfield and forwards so it's a legitimate tactic to use against us. Agree though, makes for horrible viewing a lot of the time.

PhlegmyMoses

JaMarcus wrote: »

I miss the days that doing that was a recipe for disaster! We just have an enormous lack of creativity from midfield and forwards so it's a legitimate tactic to use against us. Agree though, makes for horrible viewing a lot of the time.

I'm not criticising the teams for doing it. It's our kryptonite so they're dead right. Bit it's like grounding day at times.

Rossi IRL

De Gea saves us again

How Soon Is Now

De Gea keeping the score at nil once again!

PhlegmyMoses

3 fouls on Pogba now as he breaks forward. Come on ref

wanderer100

De Gea to the rescue again!! We could easily be 2 nil down at this point

PhlegmyMoses

Smalling lying on the ground again as a corner comes in. I say it every week, he isn't good enough

J. Marston

Another De Gea rescue job on the cards.

No keeper at a supposedly elite side has to work as hard as him.

Edit: The assist was just as good as the finish.

PhlegmyMoses

What a goal from Fred

Rossi IRL

YES GET IN

That Pogba Fred link up.

Ah bless, they have a little celebration together aswell.

JaMarcus

That assist from Pogba was absolutely beautiful.

How Soon Is Now

That's great goal nice assist by Pogba brilliant finish by Fred!

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go wan Fred

get in

You can thank me later

IncognitoMan

Lovely goal that

jimmytwotimes 2013

Watching here from Croatia.

Some hit for the goal by Fred. Fair play

A Dub in Glasgo

That was a nice goal

wanderer100

Lovely assist from pogba

RobertKK

Fred the Red.

RobertKK

Get Pogba a new contract...

How Soon Is Now

Pogba looking comfortable today. His last few performances have been good hoping he can keep this going now and won't disappear again against bigger teams.

bangkok

Pogba oozes class. Delighted fred scored

Adamcp898

deaddonkey15

Adamcp898 wrote: »

But one thing I don't get is the amount of value placed by some on Sanchez' "work rate". A lot of his running doesn't actually result in anything and doesn't always appear to be part of a designed team press. Gives a lot of credence imo to the rumours that the Arsenal players disliked him because he was fond of throwing in a few aimless sprints and waving his hands in the air when they were up against it just so it would look to the fans like he was trying.

It's just a cop out really. People who can't objectively judge a player will just stick to their personal biases. Claiming Sanchez works hard and describing Martial as lazy and someone who doesn't give a f*ck in comparison is just a really transparent way of saying "I like Sanchez and I don't like Martial".

deaddonkey15

deaddonkey15 wrote: »

It's just a cop out really. People who can't objectively judge a player will just stick to their personal biases. Claiming Sanchez works hard and describing Martial as lazy and someone who doesn't give a f*ck in comparison is just a really transparent way of saying "I like Sanchez and I don't like Martial".

Last season

Tackles per games Sanchez 1.8 Martial 0.5

Interceptions per game Sanchez 1.4 Martial 0.1

How Soon Is Now

I don't think the current Sanchez is good enough to be In the team but I think he's getting his place based on his rep and his drive and effort on the pitch.

Other thrn that he's been a huge let down for United.

PhlegmyMoses

deaddonkey15 wrote: »

It's just a cop out really. People who can't objectively judge a player will just stick to their personal biases. Claiming Sanchez works hard and describing Martial as lazy and someone who doesn't give a f*ck in comparison is just a really transparent way of saying "I like Sanchez and I don't like Martial".

I think Sanchez works harder than Martial and find Martial to be lazy but I still think Sanchez has been ****e. This is a silly statement to make, "I am very smart" territory.

DM_7

JaMarcus wrote: »

I miss the days that doing that was a recipe for disaster! We just have an enormous lack of creativity from midfield and forwards so it's a legitimate tactic to use against us. Agree though, makes for horrible viewing a lot of the time.

Not really fair. Lots of creative players at United but the low block is very effective and makes it very difficult to get momentum in attack. It is also a great way to stay in shape so you can quickly counter in the transition where the opponent has pushed up field.

It makes crosses and passes hard to cleanly intercept more important and the second ball vital. Fred goal is a great example where Sanchez and Shaw work the team up the field and try a cross, poorly cleared allows a second ball to be won with defenders watching rather than dealing with runs.

Good first half so far from me

How Soon Is Now

Fred The Red wrote: »

Good first half so far from me

It's been solid enough like to see Lukaku get into it more though.

Rossi IRL

Fred The Red wrote: »

Good first half so far from me

It's been OK. We haven't made many if any clear chances. Would like to see us change that.

PhlegmyMoses

Ref dying to give the card there to Shaw.

Rossi IRL

Sanchez needs to do a bit more to help Shaw. Lingard is doing a good job on the other side.

PhlegmyMoses

No card for Jimenez. Sound

How Soon Is Now

Sanchez.....

Dreadful free kick from Sanchez
That would annoy anyone

Rossi IRL

**** me that was some FK Fred