Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2018/2019 [Mod note 31-Aug-18]

Mitch Connor

If we brought in SMS I think it is 100% as a replacement for Pogba. Would barca stump up coutinho money, plus, for Pogba though?

SMS, Dembele in with Pogba to barca. Possibly for near zero net?

Lord TSC

Mitch Connor wrote: »

If we brought in SMS I think it is 100% as a replacement for Pogba. Would barca stump up coutinho money, plus, for Pogba though?

SMS, Dembele in with Pogba to barca. Possibly for near zero net?

I don't know much about Dembele other than Barca paid a crazy amount for him. What's he like?

If we got SMS before Pogba went, it would put us in a much better position, negotiations wise. WIth a replacement already acquired, we could really demand every penny possible from Barca.

brinty

Mitch Connor wrote: »

If we brought in SMS I think it is 100% as a replacement for Pogba. Would barca stump up coutinho money, plus, for Pogba though?

SMS, Dembele in with Pogba to barca. Possibly for near zero net?

Whilst i agree with the sentiment my dear lady i doubt there's any way barca gives us Coutinho money (which then gets used to purchase SMS) and Dembele for Pogba

brinty

Lord TSC wrote: »

I don't know much about Dembele other than Barca paid a crazy amount for him. What's he like?

If we got SMS before Pogba went, it would put us in a much better position, negotiations wise. WIth a replacement already acquired, we could really demand every penny possible from Barca.

Obviously we'd have to get that over the line tomorrow too if we wnat Dembele coming our way

Mitch Connor

Drumpot wrote: »

Or

DDG
Valencia - Bailly - Toby - Young
Matic
Fred - SMS
Rashford - Lukaku - Sanchez

Absent: Pogba (getting haircut)

Swap rashford and Sanchez - at least there is proof Sanchez performs there.

Mitch Connor

brinty wrote: »

Whilst i agree with the sentiment my dear lady i doubt there's any way barca gives us Coutinho money (which then gets used to purchase SMS) and Dembele for Pogba

Not coutinho money and Dembele. There were two poorly separated thoughts.

Straight cash would be coutinho plus money imo.

Maybe half with Dembele.

paulbok

bangkok wrote: »

All gifs should be banned from a discussion forum imo. They add absolutely nothing

brinty

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Not coutinho money and Dembele. There were two poorly separated thoughts.

Straight cash would be coutinho plus money imo.

Maybe half with Dembele.

Feck it mate, if we got SMS fleece them for both

thetimeisnow

Lord TSC wrote: »

Joking aside...

DDG
Valencia - Bailly - Toby - Young
Matic
Fred - SMS
Pogba
Lukaku - Sanchez

The fullbacks are dirt

TitianGerm

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Not coutinho money and Dembele. There were two poorly separated thoughts.

Straight cash would be coutinho plus money imo.

Maybe half with Dembele.

They paid over €110m (or was it €120m) for Dembele. I doubt they'd give United €70m and Dembele for Pogba.

bangkok

Savic was poor at world cup. Id be wary about signing him for massive money

Lord TSC

bangkok wrote: »

Savic was poor at world cup. Id be wary about signing him for massive money

Would it not make more sense to judge a player on more than 5 or 6 games with a team he plays with a handful of times a year? His price tag is based on his performances over a much longer period of time than that.

Mitch Connor

TitianGerm wrote: »

They paid over €110m (or was it €120m) for Dembele. I doubt they'd give United €70m and Dembele for Pogba.

If they want rid of him (second choice to malcom?) then his value has dropped from the too high figure they paid. Pogba is a guy they want... 150 cash,imo.

Mitch Connor

Lord TSC wrote: »

Would it not make more sense to judge a player on more than 5 or 6 games with a team he plays with a handful of times a year? His price tag is based on his performances over a much longer period of time than that.

In fact, I'd prefer to sign a player on the back of a poor WC (SMS) where its indicates we have scouted him and have him long identified as a target. Rather than just seen something shiny at the WC

TitianGerm

Mitch Connor wrote: »

If they want rid of him (second choice to malcom?) then his value has dropped from the too high figure they paid. Pogba is a guy they want... 150 cash,imo.

Even if they want rid they are not stupid, Arsenal apparently had offered £10m loan fee with an option to buy for £90m at the end of that.

He's a super player who struggled a bit last season with injuries. They'll have plenty of suitors if they do decide to sell.

Mitch Connor

TitianGerm wrote: »

Even if they want rid they are not stupid, Arsenal apparently had offered £10m loan fee with an option to buy for £90m at the end of that.

He's a super player who struggled a bit last season with injuries. They'll have plenty of suitors if they do decide to sell.

Then I'd want full cash 150+ for Pogba.

rob316

bangkok wrote: »

Savic was poor at world cup. Id be wary about signing him for massive money

Man you are attached at the hip to Pogba

J. Marston

There is two days to go. Dembele or SMS isn't getting done.

Alderweireld might be a mad scramble.

Cookiemunster

J. Marston wrote: »

There is two days to go. Dembele or SMS isn't getting done.

Alderweireld might be a mad scramble.

Less than 24 hours actually......

Lord TSC

J. Marston wrote: »

There is two days to go.

You're off by double....

pjohnson

A loan with obligation to buy would be the best we could hope for at this stage IF we are actually trying to sign any non-English based player be it SMS/Dembele/Mina/Boateng etc.

Adamcp898

pjohnson wrote: »

A loan with obligation to buy would be the best we could hope for at this stage IF we are actually trying to sign any non-English based player be it SMS/Dembele/Mina/Boateng etc.

Don't think there's anything about this deal structure that makes them any easier to agree per se, think they're more for controlling which year's books the money gets accounted for in.

Pogba being replaced by SMS just puts the final nail in what has been a terrible Summer.

jaykay74

Lord TSC wrote: »

(Serbian source) Manchester United have offered €100m for Sergej Milinković Savić, Lazio want €120m

If United value him at 100m and they want 120m and similar with Toby 45m v 65m just stump up the extra and get a new corn flakes sponsor, tractor sponsor, toe nail clipper sponsor. Whatever

pjohnson

Adamcp898 wrote: »

Don't think there's anything about this deal structure that makes them any easier to agree per se, think they're more for controlling which year's books the money gets accounted for in.

Pogba being replaced by SMS just puts the final nail in what has been a terrible Summer.

Those structures seem to be more popular in Europe for some reason.

bangkok

rob316 wrote: »

Man you are attached at the hip to Pogba

??

jimmytwotimes 2013

Lord TSC wrote: »

Joking aside...

DDG
Valencia - Bailly - Toby - Young
Matic
Fred - SMS
Pogba
Lukaku - Sanchez

Not bad, full backs still kill our forward play Will result in congested middle as teams won't be under threat out wide and a lot of frustrating home games trying to kick the opponent's door down.

StringerBell

Lord TSC wrote: »

Would it not make more sense to judge a player on more than 5 or 6 games with a team he plays with a handful of times a year? His price tag is based on his performances over a much longer period of time than that.

Not at all, 6 appearances is the perfect amount to judge a player, hence the feeling that Dalot is going to surprise people.

xtal191

https://twitter.com/utdreport/status/1027228859731730433

StringerBell

Sanchez was speaking pretty positively in that interview. Wants to win every trophy on offer etc, feels he will be a totally different proposition himself now he knows the training the methods the teammates etc

The_Kew_Tour

We sign someone alright

#Believe

pjohnson

I thought a player was done by the age of 29? Vidal is 31?

54and56

Lord TSC wrote: »

Would it not make more sense to judge a player on more than 5 or 6 games with a team he plays with a handful of times a year? His price tag is based on his performances over a much longer period of time than that.

What would the outcome be if Barcelona applied that (absolutely logical) criteria to valuing Pogba? Ignore the few good games he played for France in the WC as he only plays a handful of games a year with them and judge him on his performances for Utd since he (re) signed?

StringerBell

Je_suis_Jean wrote: »

What would the outcome be if Barcelona applied that (absolutely logical) criteria to valuing Pogba? Ignore the few good games he played for France in the WC as he only plays a handful of games a year with them and judge him on his performances for Utd since he (re) signed?

Same outcome as united offering a straight swap, Jones for Messi.

PhlegmyMoses

Je_suis_Jean wrote: »

What would the outcome be if Barcelona applied that (absolutely logical) criteria to valuing Pogba? Ignore the few good games he played for France in the WC as he only plays a handful of games a year with them and judge him on his performances for Utd since he (re) signed?

Their offer still would have been derisory. Are you on a wind up here or what's the story?

Drumpot

StringerBell wrote: »

Sanchez was speaking pretty positively in that interview. Wants to win every trophy on offer etc, feels he will be a totally different proposition himself now he knows the training the methods the teammates etc

I think he will be a different player for united this season. Be like a new signing....

There really is a lot to be excited about this season. People getting hung up on transfers, I’d be happy enough if we just had a happy squad with the existing team.

Lord TSC

[Simon Stone] Was told earlier today that @ManUtd highly unlikely to get Jerome Boateng but since been told player still keen if he feels Utd really want him. Jose thinks it can be done. Were talking loan. Bayern wanted straight sale.

54and56

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

Their offer still would have been derisory. Are you on a wind up here or what's the story?

Absolutely not, thought it might help explain their offer.

bangkok

Toby and boateng on loan would be great business

Trigger

thetimeisnow wrote: »

The fullbacks are dirt

You should post up your fantasy United line up

astradave

astradave wrote: »

You should post up your fantasy United line up

Good man Dave, what's that code again?

Who's this coming into Carrington?

https://twitter.com/mrthebomb/status/1027210518937972736?s=19

Lord TSC

[LeParisien] Jérôme Boateng has chosen PSG

bangkok

Fred The Red wrote: »

Who's this coming into Carrington?

https://twitter.com/mrthebomb/status/1027210518937972736?s=19

Looks like the grim reaper

Hococop

Fred The Red wrote: »

Who's this coming into Carrington?

https://twitter.com/mrthebomb/status/1027210518937972736?s=19

That an actual photo or one from years ago

Edit: probably boxes of scotch

Adamcp898

Lord TSC wrote: »

[LeParisien] Jérôme Boateng has chosen PSG

Phew

pjohnson

Fred The Red wrote: »

Who's this coming into Carrington?

https://twitter.com/mrthebomb/status/1027210518937972736?s=19

Lord Voldemort?

Or Nazgûl

Lord TSC

Di Marizio saying Darmian likely to stay, due to Valencia injury problems.

Trigger

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Good man Dave, what's that code again?

It’s in my sig there

StringerBell

Lord TSC wrote: »

Di Marizio saying Darmian likely to stay, due to Valencia injury problems.

I'd imagine he won't be moving until the end of August alright.

Liam McPoyle

Clicks into thread for the first time since this morning.

Sees about 200 new posts.

Gets excited.

Sees it's more of the same scutter.