Family of seven sleep in Garda station Mod note post one

pjohnson

Nothing like the whinging of the "buh buh MY TAXES" crowd to start off a funny weekend

mynamejeff

mynamejeff wrote: »

im seeing if you can make some points about what travellers contribute to our society while deserving to take so so much ? its not hard to understand really

you after all claim to have good knowledge of traveller culture right ?

No, no I didn't.

I don't even know what 'traveller culture' is supposed to consist of. I assume you are confusing me with somebody else.

deaddonkey15 wrote: »

I went to a non fee-paying school and didn't encounter anti-traveller bullying by my peers. One traveller did however threaten to box the face off me, and made the same threat to my friend on a separate occasion. He didn't stay in the school for very long and he's since been charged with a number of road traffic offences.

Another traveller stabbed me twice with a pencil and also threatened to box the face off me. On a different occasion he threw one of those geometry set compasses with the needle at the back of my head. From what I've heard, he's since been jailed for murder.

Similar to our broken welfare system, the school covered the costs of trips/books for students like that - presumably out of "voluntary contributions" that were requested from our parents. Meanwhile our tax paying parents had to pay for our books, uniforms, school trips etc.

Nice fellas those travellers.

I must be the only person here who has seen traveller children bullied and/or isolated in schoolyards. Or maybe I imagined it!

BBFAN

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote:

I must be the only person here who has seen traveller children bullied and/or isolated in schoolyards. Or maybe I imagined it!

I remember seing them be called smelly numerous times by people not even close enough to smell them.

Dannyriver

Grab All Association wrote: »

Me and my fiancée were out getting takeaway in Limerick city last night. I went in to the toilets to piss and wash my hands and came back out. Ginger traveller and his sons shouting N(rhymes with digger) lover at her because there was a black man beside her.

Read a very funny post on here a few months ago about AAA/PBP trying to organize a massive protest in Dublin over a muslim family house getting vandalized. They quickly called it off and deleted all posts about it when it turned out it was travellers terrorizing the family.

Well there you go , you ll always find common ground when you look hard enough, perhaps some of the posters here could build on this dislike of Muslims that they apparently share with the travelers.

punisher5112

I am ashamed of how our guberment is treating us hard working people and yet these absolute parasites can get anything and everything they want.

I can't afford to live in Dublin and can't even afford to rent or buy.

I had to move an hour outside of it to be able to afford to have a roof and now commute.

Why can't the papers and news show it how bad it is for us.

If I took over a house tomorrow I would expect to be dragged out and charged so why isn't this being done.

NasserShammaz

Dannyriver wrote: »

Well there you go , you ll always find common ground when you look hard enough, perhaps some of the posters here could build on this dislike of Muslims that they apparently share with the travelers.

well lets see what impact Muslims will have on Irish society /How they will raise their children what they will contribute ....

I bet it will be a hell of a lot more than Travellers have in the generations that have lived in Ireland and they will do it in only one generation

Dannyriver

NasserShammaz wrote: »

well lets see what impact Muslims will have on Irish society /How they will raise their children what they will contribute ....

I bet it will be a hell of a lot more than Travellers have in the generations that have lived in Ireland and they will do it in only one generation

there u go , maybe the best way to accepting Muslims is to double down on the hatred of travelers.

stratowide

Dannyriver wrote: »

there u go , maybe the best way to accepting Muslims is to double down on the hatred of travelers.

Where did the poster say they hated or implied they hated travellers...?

Autecher

sightband wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/council-seeks-to-remove-mother-and-children-from-vacant-house-1.3629667

Don’t mess Chase, Harper rose or Pixy about or she’ll send the rest of the Paw Patrol after you.

Ok she has 3 kids and wants secure housing for them I understand that but JESUS F*CKING CHRIST the attitude of this woman is terrible. Surely just pure osmosis would let her in on the fact that housing/renting/mortgages in this country is a shambles for just about everybody. She literally stole a whole f*cking house and that's the government's fault?? And yet again whoever is interviewing her wouldn't dare suggest she has done anything wrong at all. What a country we live in :mad::mad:

NasserShammaz

Dannyriver wrote: »

there u go , maybe the best way to accepting Muslims is to double down on the hatred of travelers.

Your the one who compared Muslim and Travellers as if both are somehow equal in status as a minority in this Country, Im just pointing out that one are people who in private practice a particular form of religion but otherwise work,live and respect the place they live and raise their children to be the best they can be and have in the most part a positive impact on the people around them the other do none of this and make the lives of those near them a misery,engage in criminality and are the cause of vast amounts of resources being wasted that could be used for any number of other more worthwhile reasons .

Dannyriver

NasserShammaz wrote: »

Your the one who compared Muslim and Travellers as if both are somehow equal in status as a minority in this Country, Im just pointing out that one are people who in private practice a particular form of religion but otherwise work,live and respect the place they live and raise their children to be the best they can be and have in the most part a positive impact on the people around them the other do none of this and make the lives of those near them a misery,engage in criminality and are the cause of vast amounts of resources being wasted that could be used for any number of other more worthwhile reasons .

Well said

NasserShammaz

cliggg wrote: »

Ok she has 3 kids and wants secure housing for them I understand that but JESUS F*CKING CHRIST the attitude of this woman is terrible. Surely just pure osmosis would let her in on the fact that housing/renting/mortgages in this country is a shambles for just about everybody. She literally stole a whole f*cking house and that's the government's fault?? And yet again whoever is interviewing her wouldn't dare suggest she has done anything wrong at all. What a country we live in :mad::mad:

Do we have to be careful going away for the weekend or on holiday now just in case some freeloading Q jumper moves into your house cause "its bleedin empty"

There are genuine working homeless people in this country who will never get the help they deserve because of shiftless lazy ar*e freeloaders like this

Loves_lorries

NasserShammaz wrote: »

well lets see what impact Muslims will have on Irish society /How they will raise their children what they will contribute ....

I bet it will be a hell of a lot more than Travellers have in the generations that have lived in Ireland and they will do it in only one generation

Muslims are in the main polite, law abiding and willing to work, they are in the main much more Conservative than your average Irish person but I've yet to be able to claim 100% of my dealings with Muslims has been negative, unlike travellers.

n97 mini

sightband wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/council-seeks-to-remove-mother-and-children-from-vacant-house-1.3629667

Don’t mess Chase, Harper rose or Pixy about or she’ll send the rest of the Paw Patrol after you.

Put herself on the waiting list 10 years ago, and then decided to have three kids. What was she thinking!?

Igotadose

n97 mini wrote: »

Put herself on the waiting list 10 years ago, and then decided to have three kids. What was she thinking!?

And as always never a sign of the husband(s)/partner(s)/baby-daddy(s)

punisher5112

n97 mini wrote: »

Put herself on the waiting list 10 years ago, and then decided to have three kids. What was she thinking!?

At 19 one shouldn't be allowed, ridiculous but most likely to have followed her mother and so on.

Odelay

n97 mini wrote: »

Put herself on the waiting list 10 years ago, and then decided to have three kids. What was she thinking!?

She was thinking of getting a free house..

punisher5112

punisher5112 wrote: »

At 19 one shouldn't be allowed, ridiculous but most likely to have followed her mother and so on.

Interesting that you feel entitled to speculate about her mother's sexual history, but seemingly have nothing to say about the father of these children, and whether that man's father was a responsible person?

On the Frederick Street thread, people were complaining that a house was being occupied in the city centre, and not a vacant house in 'somewhere like Darndale'. Now that a Darndale woman is occupying a house in her local area, I suppose we'll all have to find some other cause for outrage.

But her children's names!
Yerra like mother like daughter!

Am I doing this right?

Gatling

Odelay wrote: »

She was thinking of getting a free house..

Hopefully the local authority follow through and kick her off the list from breaking in and illegally occupying a social house .

Odelay

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Interesting that you feel entitled to speculate about her mother's sexual history, but seemingly have nothing to say about the father of these children, and whether that man's father was a responsible person?

On the Frederick Street thread, people were complaining that a house was being occupied in the city centre, and not a vacant house in 'somewhere like Darndale'. Now that a Darndale woman is occupying a house in her local area, I suppose we'll all have to find some other cause for outrage.

But her children's names!
Yerra like mother like daughter!

Am I doing this right?

Where did he speculate on the mothers sexual history??

SnazzyPig

sightband wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/council-seeks-to-remove-mother-and-children-from-vacant-house-1.3629667

Don’t mess Chase, Harper rose or Pixy about or she’ll send the rest of the Paw Patrol after you.

The picture on the TV screen on the first photo of that article looks like it was photo-shopped in......

NasserShammaz

SnazzyPig wrote: »

The picture on the TV screen on the first photo of that article looks like it was photo-shopped in......

Or turn the f#ckin TV off when the press come and you,ve turned the waterworks on

Galwayguy35

sightband wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/council-seeks-to-remove-mother-and-children-from-vacant-house-1.3629667

Don’t mess Chase, Harper rose or Pixy about or she’ll send the rest of the Paw Patrol after you.

Another leech.

punisher5112

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Interesting that you feel entitled to speculate about her mother's sexual history, but seemingly have nothing to say about the father of these children, and whether that man's father was a responsible person?

On the Frederick Street thread, people were complaining that a house was being occupied in the city centre, and not a vacant house in 'somewhere like Darndale'. Now that a Darndale woman is occupying a house in her local area, I suppose we'll all have to find some other cause for outrage.

But her children's names!
Yerra like mother like daughter!

Am I doing this right?

It's most likely a continuous line as the generation before this is of course well known but maybe you have your head in the sand.

NasserShammaz

I can only imagine it will be hell for whoever moves into this house now ,despite playing by the rules waiting their turn etc... no doubt they will be a target for the local rabble

gctest50

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Fine. Look, I've no skin in this game. I can live my life just fine, anti-traveller discrimination, or none.

But if the people who complain about travellers want any change, then they're going to also have to change their attitude towards travellers. Both sides are going to have to move, that's how any negotiation works.

You can complain that it's unfair and people can declare that they'll continue to discriminate; fine by me. But nothing will ever change.

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Both sides are going to have to move, that's how any negotiation works.

.

Some bizzare argumentum ad temperantiam that


Why would "both sides have to move" in things like this ? :

We need some American police over here, short term pain, long term gain

NasserShammaz

gctest50 wrote: »

Some bizzare argumentum ad temperantiam that


Why would "both sides have to move" in things like this ? :

I reckon if that red car moved very quickly to the right we could make progress:rolleyes:

gctest50

gctest50 wrote: »

Why would "both sides have to move" in things like this ? :

Not actually what I was saying, of course, but don't let that stop you.

I was saying that travellers will continue to isolate themselves from integration, and will continue to have no stake in social welfare, so long as they feel rejected by that society. Similarly, they will continue to be rejected so long as the settled community perceive travellers to be a social threat, or a drain on social resources.

But, yeah... lets bring in some armed US cops and maybe even shoot the fcukers, I'm sure your proposal is a lot more popular among some of the police fantasists here.

We need some American police over here, short term pain, long term gain

Igotadose

NasserShammaz wrote: »

gctest50 wrote: »

Some bizzare argumentum ad temperantiam that


Why would "both sides have to move" in things like this ? :

I reckon if that red car moved very quickly to the right we could make progress:rolleyes:

So, this was a 'team' of Traveller's protecting the racers from the guards? And the people videoing for Youtube were traveller's as well?

I noticed that a 'wall' of cars seemed to get behind the lead horse eventually, preventing the guards from getting close. Wow. Just for jollies and to endanger the other road users because... they could

Loves_lorries

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Not actually what I was saying, of course, but don't let that stop you.

I was saying that travellers will continue to isolate themselves from integration, and will continue to have no stake in social welfare, so long as they feel rejected by that society. Similarly, they will continue to be rejected so long as the settled community perceive travellers to be a social threat, or a drain on social resources.

But, yeah... lets bring in some armed US cops and maybe even shoot the fcukers, I'm sure your proposal is a lot more popular among some of the police fantasists here.

Travellers like the current situation.

Endless handouts, zero taxes and obeying laws are optional.

Travellers have little to gain from changing, they have a culture of wild freedom from norms.

Loves_lorries

Loves_lorries wrote: »

Travellers like the current situation.

Endless handouts, zero taxes and obeying laws are optional.

Travellers have little to gain from changing, they have a culture of wild freedom from norms.

Yeah, the fact that their suicide rate is six times that of the general population shows us that they're having a great time.

padd b1975

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Yeah, the fact that their suicide rate is six times that of the general population shows us that they're having a great time.

The traveller men seem to be taking it out on the women if the domestic violence stats are anything to go by.

Maybe that's contributing to the suicides?

jimwallace197

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Yeah, the fact that their suicide rate is six times that of the general population shows us that they're having a great time.

There are many reasons why a suicide rate might be high among a particular ethnic group in a society.

Whether they are having a great time or not, they are benefiting from a society they have little to no respect for.

tayto lover

padd b1975 wrote: »

The traveller men seem to be taking it out on the women if the domestic violence stats are anything to go by.

Maybe that's contributing to the suicides?

A traveller once told me that it was their right to beat their wives.
And that nobody should interfere.

jimwallace197

jimwallace197 wrote: »

There are many reasons why a suicide rate might be high among a particular ethnic group in a society.

For sure.

But joi de vivre is not among those reasons.

I'm not saying that the desperate living conditions of most travellers is irrelevant to their personal choices; i'm simply saying those choices are informed by a wider cultural context where travellers face significant discrimination, for example difficulties in finding employment or accommodation.

I'm not for a moment trying to claim that the discrimination is based on anything other than anti-social behaviour within the travelling community. That is an incontestable fact.

Nevertheless, i would hate to be a young traveller, emerging into adulthood, and genuinely trying to get my life together. Anyone in that position is starting from a position of tremendous disadvantage, so don't be surprised to see them fail when we seem to write them off based on their group identity.

jimwallace197

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

For sure.

But joi de vivre is not among those reasons.

I'm not saying that the desperate living conditions of most travellers is irrelevant to their personal choices; i'm simply saying those choices are informed by a wider cultural context where travellers face significant discrimination, for example difficulties in finding employment or accommodation.

I'm not for a moment trying to claim that the discrimination is based on anything other than anti-social behaviour within the travelling community. That is an incontestable fact.

Nevertheless, i would hate to be a young traveller, emerging into adulthood, and genuinely trying to get my life together. Anyone in that position is starting from a position of tremendous disadvantage, so don't be surprised to see them fail when we seem to write them off based on their group identity.

There are a many peoples who start with a large disadvantage but that does not excuse their behavior. We can see this continually through our judicial system, such and such came from a difficult background so they should be afforded more leniency in their punishment.

The more excuses we make for a people, the longer it will take for them to get their act together.

I have personally met a number of settled travelers who you wouldnt even know were and the reason for that is their willingness to integrate into a society that offers them a way forward.

Coming from a disadvantaged background is never easy but the solution is not to make excuses for them and afford them continuous understanding in everything that they do. That only makes the problem worse

Galwayguy35

gctest50 wrote: »

Some bizzare argumentum ad temperantiam that


Why would "both sides have to move" in things like this ? :

We need some American police over here, short term pain, long term gain

Its the horses I feel sorry for there, being pushed to exhaustion, racing along a busy road where an innocent person could be killed trying to avoid them.

Connors and Collins have nothing to say when this kind of thing is happening.

Loves_lorries

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Yeah, the fact that their suicide rate is six times that of the general population shows us that they're having a great time.

That does not tell us anything, travellers have a different culture to us, they live high risk lives relative to the average settled person, traveller customs and traveller politics is hard and brutal, some travellers are mercilessly shunned, there is no reason to assume suicide in the traveller community has anything to do with the broader society.

Such a conclusion smacks of Liberal ideology

I. E, if a minority is struggling in a particular area, its due to the majority culture.

Loves_lorries

jimwallace197 wrote: »

There are many reasons why a suicide rate might be high among a particular ethnic group in a society.

Whether they are having a great time or not, they are benefiting from a society they have little to no respect for.

Various PC Liberals beit in media or academia constantly tell travellers that they are owed a living, lifestyle, culture by tax payers and even after all that one sided arrangement, the settled community are still a bunch of big racist bastard according to these enlightened leftists.

Galwayguy35

Loves_lorries wrote: »

Various PC Liberals beit in media or academia constantly tell travellers that they are owed a living, lifestyle, culture by tax payers and even after all that one sided arrangement, the settled community are still a bunch of big racist bastard according to these enlightened leftists.

Travellers have no respect for the houses they are given because they get them for nothing and know if they wreck the property it will be fixed by the council (taxpayer).

I feel sorry for council workers having to listen to their constant whinging day in day out.

jimwallace197

Loves_lorries wrote: »

Various PC Liberals beit in media or academia constantly tell travellers that they are owed a living, lifestyle, culture by tax payers and even after all that one sided arrangement, the settled community are still a bunch of big racist bastard according to these enlightened leftists.

If we are so bad, why dont they go it on their own, see how long they last

Loves_lorries

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Travellers have no respect for the houses they are given because they get them for nothing and know if they wreck the property it will be fixed by the council (taxpayer).

I feel sorry for council workers having to listen to their constant whinging day in day out.

Know a man who is a carpet fitter and often does work for the councils which involves fitting in the homes of travellers thee odd time, he claims they are both incredibly demanding and incredibly annoying as they are constantly telling him how to do his job.

Me and the Mrs have another child arriving in a week or two, we were in uhg two weeks ago for a checkup, traveller woman there in quee, up every five minutes badgering the staff to get seen quicker. Woman got talking to her at one stage, having her sixth and there is us wondering how we will afford this second and final one.

Galwayguy35

Loves_lorries wrote: »

Know a man who is a carpet fitter and often does work for the councils which involves fitting in the homes of travellers thee odd time, he claims they are both incredibly demanding and incredibly annoying as they are constantly telling him how to do his job.

Me and the Mrs have another child arriving in a week or two, we were in uhg two weeks ago for a checkup, traveller woman there in quee, up every five minutes badgering the staff to get seen quicker. Woman got talking to her at one stage, having her sixth and there is us wondering how we will afford this second and final one.

Was in Ballinasloe hospital myself one Saturday night in A&E and they came in shouting to be seen immediately, there was about 10 of them there with the person who wanted to be treated.

Very difficult on staff having to deal with that carry on.

Loves_lorries

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Was in Ballinasloe hospital myself one Saturday night in A&E and they came in shouting to be seen immediately, there was about 10 of them there with the person who wanted to be treated.

Very difficult on staff having to deal with that carry on.

Even one of them has something as trivial as an ingrown toenail, the entire extended clan arrive en masse.

Gimme A Pound

Loves_lorries wrote: »

Know a man who is a carpet fitter and often does work for the councils which involves fitting in the homes of travellers thee odd time, he claims they are both incredibly demanding and incredibly annoying as they are constantly telling him how to do his job.

Me and the Mrs have another child arriving in a week or two, we were in uhg two weeks ago for a checkup, traveller woman there in quee, up every five minutes badgering the staff to get seen quicker. Woman got talking to her at one stage, having her sixth and there is us wondering how we will afford this second and final one.

:mad:

So upsetting.

Edgware

Pop in to the Bridewell
They do a lovely breakfast

Deebles McBeebles

BBFAN wrote: »

On the reverse side of that, I've only ever had positive experiences with travellers, 1 a hairdresser in my local town who is a lovely lady and another 2 ladies I met on a course.

So that's 100% positive.

It is and you're lucky. I would imagine if there was a poll you would be in the minority.

padd b1975 wrote: »

The traveller men seem to be taking it out on the women if the domestic violence stats are anything to go by.

Maybe that's contributing to the suicides?

Luckily they can take it out on their illegally owned horses and dogs too.

Graces7

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Not actually what I was saying, of course, but don't let that stop you.

I was saying that travellers will continue to isolate themselves from integration, and will continue to have no stake in social welfare, so long as they feel rejected by that society. Similarly, they will continue to be rejected so long as the settled community perceive travellers to be a social threat, or a drain on social resources.

But, yeah... lets bring in some armed US cops and maybe even shoot the fcukers, I'm sure your proposal is a lot more popular among some of the police fantasists here.

exactly. Thank you

Dannyriver

Loves_lorries wrote: »

Various PC Liberals beit in media or academia constantly tell travellers that they are owed a living, lifestyle, culture by tax payers and even after all that one sided arrangement, the settled community are still a bunch of big racist bastard according to these enlightened leftists.

You say this is seen constantly in the media and academia, you ll have no problem finding **** loads of links then. Can you post a few I m interested in seeing how they justify anyone being owed a living

Wheeliebin30

Do they pay water and electricity charges?