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The failure of Irish Media to impartially report

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    CrankyHaus wrote: »
    Any academic that focuses on the perception of refugees in social media works in a discipline that adheres to compulsory consensus on these issues. It would be career suicide for an academic to challenge the consensus so such academics simply don't exist, at least not in Irish universities. Academic rigour, unshackled by ideology, may remain in the sciences, particularly hard sciences where they cannot threaten any sacred cows, much as mathematics and chess were safe and popular intellectual pursuits in the USSR.


    I noticed the same rewriting of history shortly after the Cologne events. The Irish Times for example first ignored the story, then some time later published some editorial "dismissing" the assertion that the incident was ignored by old media.



    While parts of old media still do great work we have long ago passed the point where most of it is unreliable, heavily biased rubbish that new media regularly surpasses for accuracy and honesty.

    Good post CH.
    For a long time I could not figure out the GroupThink by the Irish Media when it came to these types of topics. And then I realised it was self-preservation. As you said yourself, it would be career suicide to challenge the GroupThink. People like Matt Cooper go overboard with their criticism of anyone who do not have liberal views on refugees or economic migration for example, so much so that when I hear him discussing these topics, I believe he is auditioning for RTE.

    Speaking of RTE; they really have nothing to worry about when the people 'rise' and get rid of them. They will always find work in places like North Korea. They have already shown that they are very good as a unit to extol one extreme view and suppress any malcontent voices that may be contrary to that view.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,888 ✭✭✭Atoms for Peace


    The new priestly caste is turning out to be every bit as bad as the last shower.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 199 ✭✭Il Fascista


    mikemac2 wrote: »

    George Hook used to have a very funny American right winger. You could disagree with almost everything he said but damn he was entertaining and at least you thought of something else. Sorry can't remember his name. I loved that guy! Gonna keep googling, I'm determined to find his name. The guy Michael D attacked

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Graham_(radio_personality)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,530 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore



    There is no money or value in truth these days. Trump is wrong about a lot but he is right when he talks about fake news.

    He's a great producer of "fake news" and questionable facts himself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    Back in the 2000's, RTE was known by the sobriquets Pravda RTE and RTEFF given their soft-soaping of Fianna Fail politicians.

    I have not got a TV and will never pay for a TV license even if they try and add the charge to internet devices.

    I refuse to pay for their propaganda and **** programming.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭realitykeeper


    I would be a firm advocate of bringing back the workhouses and yes, the Magdalene Laundries too, although the residents could be tasked with work other than laundry duty as most people have washing machines these days and if you did need a launderette, such entities already exist. In the old days, picking oakum was a common task performed by orphans and such like in the care of the parishes but I would like to see these institutions compete with China in the production of everything from circuit boards to running shoes. Perhaps this could be done via cottage industries rather than institutions but either way, the Irish need to work harder for less.


  • Registered Users Posts: 340 ✭✭Dr_serious2


    The Sunday Independent had a full page spread on the 'orgasm gap' between men and women written by Niamh Horan this week.

    If that doesn't signal the death of Irish journalism I don't know what does.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,536 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    I would be a firm advocate of bringing back the workhouses and yes, the Magdalene Laundries too, although the residents could be tasked with work other than laundry duty as most people have washing machines these days and if you did need a launderette, such entities already exist. In the old days, picking oakum was a common task performed by orphans and such like in the care of the parishes but I would like to see these institutions compete with China in the production of everything from circuit boards to running shoes. Perhaps this could be done via cottage industries rather than institutions but either way, the Irish need to work harder for less.


    you want to go back to locking up pregnant single girls? **** me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,774 ✭✭✭donaghs


    CrankyHaus wrote: »
    Any academic that focuses on the perception of refugees in social media works in a discipline that adheres to compulsory consensus on these issues. It would be career suicide for an academic to challenge the consensus so such academics simply don't exist, at least not in Irish universities. Academic rigour, unshackled by ideology, may remain in the sciences, particularly hard sciences where they cannot threaten any sacred cows, much as mathematics and chess were safe and popular intellectual pursuits in the USSR.

    In general yes, but even the hard sciences weren't safe from ideological dogma in the Soviet Union. e.g. Lysenko and Genetics.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism

    In the current era, there's voices saying that anything which may have been developed by privileged white males is suspect. e.g. Math's is racist: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/teaching-maths-white-privilege-illinois-university-professor-rochelle-gutierrez-a8018521.html
    (although I actually first heard that claim from someone in a Labour council in an early 80s documentary about the UK "looney left").

    If current trends continue, expect the sciences to come under attack for being fundamentally, racist, sexist, bourgouis or whatever the latest thing is. Biology is an obvious target for the Gender studies crowd.
    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-unfortunate-fallout-of-campus-postmodernism/

    Eventually we could be hearing about it in the Irish media. Not as intellectual discussion but as dogma.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭realitykeeper


    you want to go back to locking up pregnant single girls? **** me.

    No, there is no need to lock them up. I am simply saying they should have the workhouse option, or destitution if they prefer or (hopefully) their family or significant other to provide for them, just not the taxpayer.

    In the old days (pre 1900), it was the parishes that provided these social services at no cost to the taxpayer. In other words, many of those who were in a position to contribute, did so and of course giving is worthwhile in itself as Scrooge discovered. People became less charitable as the state took over the provision of services as they were taxed more to pay for those things.

    Despite appearances, the old way was better. You see, the populist policies like the funding of a welfare state is expensive. How expensive is only made known in a real and visceral way when recessionary times come and I would be of the view that the next one will be a doozy. Had we had workhouses instead of a welfare state, then we would we more productive in output and no debt would have accumulated in the provision of these services.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,676 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Any discussion on topics like immigration or housing these days on RTE and Virgin 1 is full of lefties like Alison O Connor and Colette Browne, or hard left people like Brendan Ogle who are given easy interviews and questions a lot of viewers want to be asked are never touched on.

    You never see Ian o Doherty on these programmes anymore because he would wipe the floor with the people mentioned above.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,742 ✭✭✭Wanderer2010


    Whatever about the bigger issues of this OP, I have to say Bryan Dobson was a massive massive loss to the RTE newsroom. He was a very skilled interviewer and anyone under his glare got a right grilling whether it be about homelessness, health scandals etc. The two presenters now are woeful in that regards. I think her name is Ceilin Shanly or something, she was interviewing the head of the Kerry Hospital yesterday regarding the deaths of patients who got wrong scan info. Dobbo would have been right in there "Who is responsible for this? What these patients need is justice and someone to be brought to account" and other questions along those lines. Whereas she just asked a few timid questions, got his name wrong at the end of it and left it at that. Pathetic!


  • Registered Users Posts: 229 ✭✭John Sacrimoni


    The tonight show on Tv3 has to be up there with the worst of them. Those two flutes that host it make me want to vomit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭ Alayah Salty Schoolmarm


    The tonight show on Tv3 has to be up there with the worst of them. Those two flutes that host it make me want to vomit.

    The decline in Matt Cooper is sad to see, who was a very good and balanced journalist/had a great show till about 2 or 3 years ago and now he takes the far left/pc opinion and never challenges/calls out some of these ludicrous stances by them


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    I see on RTÉ's 9pm news a moment ago that "students" were rioting again today. Just looking at the pictures, it's good to see that such a disproportionate number of "students" in France are being drawn from an, eh, "non-traditional" French background.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    I would be a firm advocate of bringing back the workhouses and yes, the Magdalene Laundries too, although the residents could be tasked with work other than laundry duty as most people have washing machines these days and if you did need a launderette, such entities already exist. In the old days, picking oakum was a common task performed by orphans and such like in the care of the parishes but I would like to see these institutions compete with China in the production of everything from circuit boards to running shoes. Perhaps this could be done via cottage industries rather than institutions but either way, the Irish need to work harder for less.

    Any chance you’d get a job, yourself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    I see on RTÉ's 9pm news a moment ago that "students" were rioting again today. Just looking at the pictures, it's good to see that such a disproportionate number of "students" in France are being drawn from an, eh, "non-traditional" French background.

    They look mostly white to me. The riots are a mixture of right and left. The old order is crumbling.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,888 ✭✭✭Atoms for Peace


    The infamous Bertie Ahern interview will forever sour my opinion on Dobson.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 7,486 ✭✭✭Red Alert


    By far the worst offenders are the Journal. They seem hellbent on being the ultimate snowflakes and virtue signallers even amongst the Uber PC Irish media.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    The decline in Matt Cooper is sad to see, who was a very good and balanced journalist/had a great show till about 2 or 3 years ago and now he takes the far left/pc opinion and never challenges/calls out some of these ludicrous stances by them

    Could only handle about 30 seconds of listening to Matt Cooper attack Paschal Donohoe on the Sinn Fein/Boyd-Barrett Tonight Show last night before I switched off. "Show" is an apt word for that disastrous program.

    The way that Cooper pontificated the question when asking the minister of finance if he was ashamed of himself with all the homelessness in Ireland.
    Of course he knows that Donohoe cannot respond by saying that the homeless situation in Ireland is not a crisis and to reduce the numbers is impossible when economic migrants are arriving into the country on a daily basis and declaring themselves homeless.

    Cooper does not speak for the majority in Ireland; in fact he speaks for a tiny liberal minority. One of these days, as a test case, we should launch a boycott of one of his primary sponsors/advertisers and let's see if they are willing to risk their bottom line by supporting Cooper's liberal causes.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭Zorya


    Here are some French students that were protesting against new exam measures. I have seen reports that they had to kneel for up to 4 hours.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    Zorya wrote: »
    Here are some French students that were protesting against new exam measures. I have seen reports that they had to kneel for up to 4 hours.



    I will not give credence to that YouTube clip by clicking on it. But claiming that they are children? And being humiliated?
    Watching France24 this morning, these "children" (according to witnesses) were burning out cars and threatening the occupants that they would be burned alive. They were also involved in adult-type rioting, and should be treated as such.

    Poor craturs ............ having to kneel for up to 4 hours.
    This was the norm for a lot of us growing up in Ireland and we (well, most of us) were out not rioting over exam measures.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,186 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    The most apt support of the premise of the thread title "The failure of Irish Media to impartially report" was the fact the thread directly underneath it was the thread "Margaret Cash appears in court over stealing €300 worth of clothes from Pennys".

    If one wants to see the lack of impartiality of the Irish media then the Margaret Cash reporting and the Peter Casey reporting are primes examples of it.

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭realitykeeper


    Any chance you’d get a job, yourself.

    You mean like Master of the workhouse? Perhaps, and I`d see to it you would not be bored.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,107 ✭✭✭thegreengoblin


    Any discussion on topics like immigration or housing these days on RTE and Virgin 1 is full of lefties like Alison O Connor and Colette Browne, or hard left people like Brendan Ogle who are given easy interviews and questions a lot of viewers want to be asked are never touched on.

    You never see Ian o Doherty on these programmes anymore because he would wipe the floor with the people mentioned above.

    It's more that Ian gets...how shall we put this...quite 'emotional' at times. When things aren't going his way he tends to just lash out. Some of what he says makes a lot of sense but he can't control himself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    You mean like Master of the workhouse? Perhaps, and I`d see to it you would not be bored.

    I’d be surprised if you are earning anywhere close to me. Or indeed the average industrial wage.

    You obviously don’t work, given your hatred of workers, so please tell us what you do?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,175 ✭✭✭dense


    It's more that Ian gets...how shall we put this...quite 'emotional' at times. When things aren't going his way he tends to just lash out. Some of what he says makes a lot of sense but he can't control himself.

    That actually makes for good TV!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,175 ✭✭✭dense


    The Sunday Independent had a full page spread on the 'orgasm gap' between men and women written by Niamh Horan this week.

    If that doesn't signal the death of Irish journalism I don't know what does.

    Died long ago.
    She's hanging in there a long time.
    Herself and Barry Egan wrote some shîte during the 'tiger years.

    And still do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 551 ✭✭✭Todd Gack


    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/keeping-it-country-agriculture-students-sorry-for-lewd-remarks-on-ucd-radio-show-37603219.html

    From the article: "In 2016, students from the same UCD School of Agriculture also came in for criticism over an alleged Facebook group involving male students rating images of female students.

    At the time, a spokesperson for the university said it would investigate the allegations."

    No mention that said investigation did take place and found no evidence this facebook group ever existed.


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    Todd Gack wrote: »
    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/keeping-it-country-agriculture-students-sorry-for-lewd-remarks-on-ucd-radio-show-37603219.html

    From the article: "In 2016, students from the same UCD School of Agriculture also came in for criticism over an alleged Facebook group involving male students rating images of female students.

    At the time, a spokesperson for the university said it would investigate the allegations."

    No mention that said investigation did take place and found no evidence this facebook group ever existed.

    Any idea what was said?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,009 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    The tonight show on Tv3 has to be up there with the worst of them. Those two flutes that host it make me want to vomit.

    It would work if there was a balance. If Matt Cooper wants to hang his coat as a SJW progressive fine, but there needs to be someone else to balance that you. Ivan just seems out of it half the time, until he gets on some other hobby horse.

    Get Hook on instead of Ivan, that will be some show then!


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭realitykeeper


    I’d be surprised if you are earning anywhere close to me. Or indeed the average industrial wage.

    You obviously don’t work, given your hatred of workers, so please tell us what you do?

    On the latter point you are wrong, I do work but I would share your surprise if my earnings bore any similarity to yours :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭CrankyHaus


    Todd Gack wrote: »
    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/keeping-it-country-agriculture-students-sorry-for-lewd-remarks-on-ucd-radio-show-37603219.html

    From the article: "In 2016, students from the same UCD School of Agriculture also came in for criticism over an alleged Facebook group involving male students rating images of female students.

    At the time, a spokesperson for the university said it would investigate the allegations."

    No mention that said investigation did take place and found no evidence this facebook group ever existed.

    That was an interesting example of a moral panic, much like the Belfast rape trial one last year.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭Zorya


    In the absence of impartial local reporting here is a livestream from Paris. I know it is RT and some people thing they will get cooties if they click the play button, but it is an interesting livestream nonetheless. Those French, it's not even onze heure, not even time for a second petit dejeuner, and they are already revved up, and fighting the man.



  • Registered Users Posts: 751 ✭✭✭quintana76


    Impartial reporting does not exist in this country. If what you want is globalist propaganda you are in the right place. Don't cross the line through.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,175 ✭✭✭dense


    Just heard George Lee and Aine Lawlor basically sobbing on the News at 1 over Ireland's non action on reducing carbon emissions in relation to COP24. The segment was biased in that neither of the two of them explained that Ireland might wipe itself of the face of the earth and it won't affect climate change.

    Mr. Lee also gave it large about time running out for sinking islands like Vanuatu.

    Mr. Lee should know that Vanuatu and Tuvalu are not sinking as should Ms. Lawlor. They should also explain why Ireland funding climate programs will be spent by remote corrupt island nations with poor human rights records.

    https://www.transparency.org/news/pressrelease/20130222_its_business_as_usual_for_the_corrupt_despite_all_the_lip_service

    Anything Mr. Lee says regarding climate change must be analysed for accuracy.

    Last summer he reported that Ireland had experienced record breaking temperatures during the summer heatwave.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/analysis-and-comment/2018/0630/974393-weather-heatwave-ireland/

    It hadn't, but that didn't bother anyone who shares George and RTE's agenda.

    Maybe a profession like politics could benefit from having someone like George in its ranks.

    I know he tried it already but maybe the Green Party is his true calling, because unbiased reporting certainly isn't.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    dense wrote: »
    ......
    It hadn't, but that didn't bother anyone who shares George and RTE's agenda.

    Maybe a profession like politics could benefit from having someone like George in its ranks.

    I know he tried it already but maybe the Green Party is his true calling, because unbiased reporting certainly isn't.

    We should really give up hope on fact-based, unbiased reporting from RTE.
    They are the masters of doom and gloom, with the primary goal of making the Irish tax paying, law abiding, contributing member of society, feel like that we are responsible for all the ills in not only Irish society, but on the planet as a whole.

    RTE are now doing substantial daily TV reports on homelessness; of which there are about 200 real homeless people in Ireland, with a further 10,000 - 11,000 people in "emergency accommodation" waiting for forever homes.

    When this homelessness "crisis" is shown to be truly what it is i.e. a non-crisis, then I have the feeling that RTE will then focus on climate change. They will relentlessly bombard us with "experts" who will tell us that we are doomed in the coming years due to climate change.

    But what I'm really waiting for is our Taoiseach to stand up in the Dail, after been harangued and harassed by the likes of Lawlor and Lee, and announce that workers in Ireland will have to pay a new carbon tax to offset the country's carbon footprint. This new tax will be substantial with the goal of the tax being ever increasing ....... until the workers eventually fight back.
    And of course, we know what the government will do with that money. A sizeable chunk will be used to augment the massive welfare and public sector pension budgets.

    RTE are not trustworthy and haven't been for some time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    Kivaro wrote: »
    ... then I have the feeling that RTE will then focus on climate change. They will relentlessly bombard us with "experts" who will tell us that we are doomed in the coming years due to climate change.

    But what I'm really waiting for is our Taoiseach to stand up in the Dail, after been harangued and harassed by the likes of Lawlor and Lee, and announce that workers in Ireland will have to pay a new carbon tax to offset the country's carbon footprint...

    Asians and Americans pumping out endless clouds of stuff.
    But fear not polar bears, we'll squeeze a few million Paddy workers a bit more.
    Be grand.

    If any politician sincerely believed their own guff on this they would shut down factories and ban all cars. The evident fact that they don't indicates that it is clearly a false tax.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,042 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Heard a piece on RTE Radio 1's Drivetime show today.

    It was about people queuing outside the Capuchin Day Centre in Dublin for nappies and baby food, as they do every Monday.

    Now it was a very sad piece to listen to people so hard up that they need to avail of this service, but as I listened to single mother after single mother being interviewed I thought I might hear the reporter ask about husbands/partners etc?

    Absent fathers get off too easy in this country.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,175 ✭✭✭dense


    NIMAN wrote: »
    Heard a piece on RTE Radio 1's Drivetime show today.

    It was about people queuing outside the Capuchin Day Centre in Dublin for nappies and baby food, as they do every Monday.

    Now it was a very sad piece to listen to people so hard up that they need to avail of this service, but as I listened to single mother after single mother being interviewed I thought I might hear the reporter ask about husbands/partners etc?

    Absent fathers get off too easy in this country.

    Paddy O Gorman used to ask that in his interviews. One of the only ones to do so.
    His interviews are more novelty pieces than actual news though.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,571 ✭✭✭Red_Wake


    NIMAN wrote: »
    Heard a piece on RTE Radio 1's Drivetime show today.

    It was about people queuing outside the Capuchin Day Centre in Dublin for nappies and baby food, as they do every Monday.

    Now it was a very sad piece to listen to people so hard up that they need to avail of this service, but as I listened to single mother after single mother being interviewed I thought I might hear the reporter ask about husbands/partners etc?

    Absent fathers get off too easy in this country.

    Kevin Myers was lambasted years ago for this very line of questioning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,480 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2018/1218/1017880-assault/

    VS

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/garda-release-evofit-of-sexual-assault-suspect-as-they-renew-appeal-for-witnesses-36964746.html
    He is believed to be a foreign national who is able to converse in Spanish.


    RTE did not mention that the suspect is a foreign national but the independent did. A rather glaring omission on behalf of RTE, intentional of course. Just in case all the gobshytes of Ireland will go around beating up Spanish ppl.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,175 ✭✭✭dense


    AllForIt wrote: »
    https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2018/1218/1017880-assault/

    VS

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/garda-release-evofit-of-sexual-assault-suspect-as-they-renew-appeal-for-witnesses-36964746.html

    RTE did not mention that the suspect is a foreign national but the independent did. A rather glaring omission on behalf of RTE, intentional of course. Just in case all the gobshytes of Ireland will go around beating up Spanish ppl.


    That's not fair on RTE, they probably did say he had sallow skin which seems to be a euphemism of some sort.

    That's how two gents were described on Crime call last night, their black and white photofits making it difficult for the concerned viewer to come to the conclusion.


    One of them reminded me of the Johnny Logan classic "Oriental Eyes".
    The other reminded me of that well known group, The Indians.



    That's probably all banned now too though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,888 ✭✭✭Atoms for Peace


    Another hard luck story on rte of a welfare mother and her gaggle of kids "homeless" for Xmas, I can hardly contain my contempt any longer.
    The daughter without irony questioning how other people can have nice things for Christmas, maybe they earn money and exchange it for things they want.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    Another hard luck story on rte of a welfare mother and her gaggle of kids "homeless" for Xmas, I can hardly contain my contempt any longer.
    The daughter without irony questioning how other people can have nice things for Christmas, maybe they earn money and exchange it for things they want.

    Have to wonder should we all bother paying mortgages, tax etc anymore.

    The narrative now is why bother as someone else will pick up the tab.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    Another hard luck story on rte of a welfare mother and her gaggle of kids "homeless" for Xmas, I can hardly contain my contempt any longer.
    The daughter without irony questioning how other people can have nice things for Christmas, maybe they earn money and exchange it for things they want.

    I saw that program too. Every single night on their news for the last 2 weeks, RTE has been highlighting the "homeless" crisis in Ireland. When I say highlighting, I mean forcing it down our throats as if we (workers/contributors in Ireland) are responsible for the situation that has these single mothers in emergency accommodation.

    We are talking about 10,000 - 11,000 people, but RTE is determined to make it into a crisis. Of course they keep using the word "homeless", whereas the real word that should be used is "forever-home-less".

    What bothers me with these nightly stories is how orchestrated they are. For example last night, the mother of that teenage girl could have easily set up some Christmas lights or a small Christmas tree in their current accommodation. But no, we had RTE's cameras focus on the solemn girl looking out the window at Christmas decorations on other houses, but none inside the place where this family was staying. And of course, the question was not asked about the mother's employment or the father(s) of the two teenage children and his responsibilities in all of this.

    RTE is as disingenuous as they come when reporting these types of social issues. Their biased agenda is glaringly apparent.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭CrankyHaus


    The christmas homeless reporting is done to encourage donations to charity. These peak around christmas and many charities depend on the christmas bonanza to cover running costs year round.

    RTE probably view this sort of charity can shaking as part of its public service remit. It's not very honest but it is ostensibly for a good cause and once you see it for what it is it does no great harm.

    You'll see the same thing over the next week or so with lots of parallels drawn between Jesus in the manger and people sleeping rough on O'Connell Street, all to get religious people to give generously (maybe there's a lost gospel wherein it is recounted how Our Lord mugged grannies at syringe point, who knows).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    CrankyHaus wrote: »
    The christmas homeless reporting is done to encourage donations to charity. These peak around christmas and many charities depend on the christmas bonanza to cover running costs year round.

    RTE probably view this sort of charity can shaking as part of its public service remit. It's not very honest but it is ostensibly for a good cause and once you see it for what it is it does no great harm.

    You'll see the same thing over the next week or so with lots of parallels drawn between Jesus in the manger and people sleeping rough on O'Connell Street, all to get religious people to give generously (maybe there's a lost gospel wherein it is recounted how Our Lord mugged grannies at syringe point, who knows).

    Anyway, for what it is worth, at no point in the gospels is Jesus connected with homelessness or want (disregarding of course the self-imposed "40" days in the desert).
    At the time of his birth, yes there was an accommodation issue but temporary and not a housing issue as his family were travelling at the time and merely fell victim to overbooking at a busy period! His home was back in Nazareth, was it not.

    He worked as a carpenter up to the age or 30. He wasn't perma-welfare scum.

    So as for any "comparisons" made by bucket-shakers trying to guilt religious people out of their money to buy new stuff for the CEO, ... jog on.


  • Registered Users Posts: 69 ✭✭robbok


    Started reading Niamh Horan's interview with Trumper Mick Mulvaney in today's Sindo but had to shoot myself to put me out of my misery, she makes sycophants look independent and impartial


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    You can see the dangers of people with wealth owning or having part ownership in newspapers, television stations, and other media outlets. This is obvious in the States.
    Looks like we are seeing a bit of it playing out in Ireland with the changing of the guard in the Irish Independent.

    It is only very recently that they started reporting abuses by Fine Gael TDs and their obviously fraudulent insurance compensation lawsuits. It makes one think if these TDs thought that they would be safe pursuing these fraudulent cases originally, as "real" reporting by Irish media was effectively bought off.

    This scenario of powerful business people owning national newspapers is appalling. They do not buy these newspapers for altruistic reasons; they buy these newspapers so that they control the message/stories that the general public get to see and hear.

    We should never trust mainstream media again.


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