Dairy Chitchat 3

Gawddawggonnit

Four cars pulled in just now...unannounced.
Medicines, eat tags, etc inspection. They even have binoculars for checking animals that are outdoors.
So it begins.



Dawg feels old.

Mooooo

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Four cars pulled in just now...unannounced.
Medicines, eat tags, etc inspection. They even have binoculars for checking animals that are outdoors.
So it begins.



Dawg feels old.

Best of luck

roosterman71

Offer them a cuppa and a few ham sandwiches to keep them sweet

gozunda

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Four cars pulled in just now...unannounced.
Medicines, eat tags, etc inspection. They even have binoculars for checking animals that are outdoors.
So it begins.

Dawg feels old.

Sounds like a Stasi raid tbh. :eek:

whelan2

roosterman71 wrote: »

Offer them a cuppa and a few ham sandwiches to keep them sweet

Put some poitin in their tea. Good luck with it

straight

Take darraghs advice lads and ladies and be careful.. haha.

https://m.independent.ie/business/farming/comment/darragh-mccullough-one-of-irelands-most-capable-dairy-men-has-turned-out-to-be-a-killer-38106963.html

Gawddawggonnit

All they could find was insufficient facilities for sterilizing needles and two animals missing tags but they were already on order...
They also spent a lot of time measuring housing and stock density in those houses. New legislation also means that animals must have adequate shelter from rain and sun...outdoor cubicles?

They insisted that someone accompany them until I said I’d be invoicing them at €250/hr.

First inspection of many more to come...

PMU

no wonder the french farmers protest

Gawddawggonnit

PMU wrote: »

no wonder the french farmers protest

French farmers are very badly served by their unions.
The French unions are self serving and only interested in lining their pockets and increasing their own personal holdings.
The grants (etc) that the IFA (etc) secure from the Irish Gov are extraordinary and could only be dreamed of by French farmers.

wrangler

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

French farmers are very badly served by their unions.
The French unions are self serving and only interested in lining their pockets and increasing their own personal holdings.
The grants (etc) that the IFA (etc) secure from the Irish Gov are extraordinary and could only be dreamed of by French farmers.

++++1
After BPM farce, farmers might learn that 1) changing the world market is impossible and 2) leave the lobbying to the experts

Mooooo

Meetings on derogation happening in the next week or two, anyone in it be no harm to attend. Macroom 2moro night

straight

Beef plan are after securing a support package from europe for 100m. Fair play to them

wrangler

straight wrote: »

Beef plan are after securing a support package from europe for 100m. Fair play to them

,they've done nothing.....pathetic,
Did their best to stop it maybe.
They're only messers

GrasstoMilk

straight wrote: »

Beef plan are after securing a support package from europe for 100m. Fair play to them

IFA: IFA campaign secures a Brexit beef fund of up to €100m. See Today's Farmers Journal for further info.


Was it not IFA?

whelan2

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

IFA: IFA campaign secures a Brexit beef fund of up to €100m. See Today's Farmers Journal for further info.


Was it not IFA?

Sure everyone will take credit for it

Say my name

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

IFA: IFA campaign secures a Brexit beef fund of up to €100m. See Today's Farmers Journal for further info.


Was it not IFA?

I thought it was Leo Varadkar, Mairead McGuinness and Phil Hogan?

whelan2

Say my name wrote: »

I thought it was Leo Varadkar, Mairead McGuinness and Phil Hogan?

I helped too

White Clover

Tis like when the castleisland bypass was opened. Jackie, Michael and Danny Healy Rae were all claiming credit for getting it done, so the locals christened it the Triple bypass!

straight

whelan2 wrote: »

I helped too

Me too

wrangler

Say my name wrote: »

I thought it was Leo Varadkar, Mairead McGuinness and Phil Hogan?

Apparently we've got it wrong all these years, it seems we were supposed to be holding a whingefest twice a month over the long nights of the winter to get results.
Was securing Brexit Compensation even part of the beef plan, I thought the plan was to take control of the processors, That worked well,

freedominacup

straight wrote: »

Beef plan are after securing a support package from europe for 100m. Fair play to them

100000000÷75000=1333.33

If €1300 is going to make or break a farm then it's a result. If not it's just what it seems to be i.e. a pr exercise.

wrangler

freedominacup wrote: »

100000000÷75000=1333.33

If €1300 is going to make or break a farm then it's a result. If not it's just what it seems to be i.e. a pr exercise.

but if they pay 130 on every finished animal since Christmas it'll be a result, it's the winter finishers that took the biggest hit, those selling stores at the moment certainly don't have the same pressure

White Clover

wrangler wrote: »

but if they pay 130 on every finished animal since Christmas it'll be a result, it's the winter finishers that took the biggest hit, those selling stores at the moment certainly don't have the same pressure

That's it. Pay it on stock killed between December and April and be done with it. It'll only go towards paying the losses left by those cattle.

freedominacup

wrangler wrote: »

but if they pay 130 on every finished animal since Christmas it'll be a result, it's the winter finishers that took the biggest hit, those selling stores at the moment certainly don't have the same pressure

That'll do me. €400 or so. I know another lad who'll be in for €350,000 or so on that scheme. He'll be happy enough as well I'm sure.

wrangler

freedominacup wrote: »

That'll do me. €400 or so. I know another lad who'll be in for €350,000 or so on that scheme. He'll be happy enough as well I'm sure.

IFA put in a submission detailing the losses at €100m so your friend probably needs it all to face his bank.
There's very few winter finishing so payments will be high if its paid like that.
Lads at the beef meeting in Portlaoise were claiming losses of €250/hd

alps

And back to dairying....

Cows averaging 29litres...we now have ample grass...

How much meal can I cut back to? What can a cow eat in terms of grass, and how much can that max intake produce?

Gawddawggonnit

alps wrote: »

And back to dairying....

Cows averaging 29litres...we now have ample grass...

How much meal can I cut back to? What can a cow eat in terms of grass, and how much can that max intake produce?

Are you buffering or straight nuts in parlor?

Gawddawggonnit

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

IFA: IFA campaign secures a Brexit beef fund of up to €100m. See Today's Farmers Journal for further info.


Was it not IFA?

Nice dollar considering that Brexit hasn’t even happened yet.

I sent a truck load of bulls last week...all R’s and got €3.54 all in.
Would that qualify?

mahoney_j

alps wrote: »

And back to dairying....

Cows averaging 29litres...we now have ample grass...

How much meal can I cut back to? What can a cow eat in terms of grass, and how much can that max intake produce?

FYI

mahoney_j

mahoney_j wrote: »

FYI

FYI

alps

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Are you buffering or straight nuts in parlor?

Parlour only..

alps

mahoney_j wrote: »

FYI

Cheers Mahoney.....screenshoted

Mooooo

alps wrote: »

Cheers Mahoney.....screenshoted

Average yield in group is 28.6, average meal is 2.7kg, if I'm taken out the meal would prob fall to closer to 2. Facilitator reckons lads are starting to graze covers too high and that'll cost litres also so saying to act faster to get the grass right.
2 lads with the highest milk solids are feeding 1 and 2 respectively. Rel. mature herds I think.
When lads are feeding 3kg less than you and matching or beating the output you start scratching the ceann alright

mahoney_j

Mooooo wrote: »

Average yield in group is 28.6, average meal is 2.7kg, if I'm taken out the meal would prob fall to closer to 2. Facilitator reckons lads are starting to graze covers too high and that'll cost litres also so saying to act faster to get the grass right.
2 lads with the highest milk solids are feeding 1 and 2 respectively. Rel. mature herds I think.
When lads are feeding 3kg less than you and matching or beating the output you start scratching the ceann alright

Be a longer steadier peak and more solids sold at end of year thon

Gawddawggonnit

alps wrote: »

Parlour only..

Holsteins would need 6kgs of a hi-energy nut, minimum.

greysides

Is there any problem with feeding Lamlac to calves?

alps

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Holsteins would need 6kgs of a hi-energy nut, minimum.

Oof.....shirt collar just tightened....

Gawddawggonnit

greysides wrote: »

Is there any problem with feeding Lamlac to calves?

Nope.
Reduce concentration by 10-15%.

I’ve put a good few tons of it into calves with an autofeeder. Puts a back on them and a serious shine.

Gawddawggonnit

alps wrote: »

Oof.....shirt collar just tightened....

I wouldn’t take my word on it.

Quick tot up this morning and at that rate I’d be using 2t/day...’are you buying or selling milk’ comes to mind.

jaymla627

alps wrote: »

Oof.....shirt collar just tightened....

8-12kgs going in here with an average of 9.5kgs feed, once theirs 4 liters of milk out the gate for every 1kg of meal feed I’m happy

Gawddawggonnit

jaymla627 wrote: »

8-12kgs going in here with an average of 9.5kgs feed, once theirs 4 liters of milk out the gate for every 1kg of meal feed I’m happy

1t/100hd/day.

Your friendly merchant should be throwing you a few quid for the ski holiday.

30.4L here and cows getting 5kgdm sorghum silage.
1kg hay.
3kgdm maize crimp.
All homegrown thankfully.

Timmaay

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

1t/100hd/day.

Your friendly merchant should be throwing you a few quid for the ski holiday.

30.4L here and cows getting 5kgdm sorghum silage.
1kg hay.
3kgdm maize crimp.
All homegrown thankfully.

The comical thing is apparently meal is a tiny margin business and all the merchants are up in arms with the glanbia loyalty scheme that they can't complete against. As fair as I'm concerned meal is simply to fill a hole in your grass wedge, and help balance up likes of fibre, fats for when the cows on lush grass, anything else yes you'll get more litres but glanbia are the only winners.

whelan2

Timmaay wrote: »

The comical thing is apparently meal is a tiny margin business and all the merchants are up in arms with the glanbia loyalty scheme that they can't complete against. As fair as I'm concerned meal is simply to fill a hole in your grass wedge, and help balance up likes of fibre, fats for when the cows on lush grass, anything else yes you'll get more litres but glanbia are the only winners.

But glanbia are not cheaper even with the loyalty scheme.

Gawddawggonnit

Timmaay wrote: »

The comical thing is apparently meal is a tiny margin business and all the merchants are up in arms with the glanbia loyalty scheme that they can't complete against. As fair as I'm concerned meal is simply to fill a hole in your grass wedge, and help balance up likes of fibre, fats for when the cows on lush grass, anything else yes you'll get more litres but glanbia are the only winners.

Tiny margin business?
My eye!

Talk about food miles...
The majority of ingredients in your typical hi-energy nut comes from genetically modified grains that are imported from half way around the planet.
Then, my feed comes from within the farm, is converted into baby formula 5miles from the farm, and then sent half way around the planet!

Timmaay

Oh don't worry I agree with everything you say there dwag, in the process of converting soya from South America into baby infant formula on the Chinese shelves a hell of alot of people make very good money along that chain, however the farmer absolutely is not one of them! However my point was more about the smaller local mills, with whom if you a small farmer calls up looking for 5t of nuts blown in, they don't make them up themselves, they simply order straight from whatever big factory they are made in, either they are tipped in their yard then moved onto your yard, or they come straight from the factory to your yard, in either case there isn't much margin in it for them, on pure economics of scale, ie 5t isn't worth the bolloxing about, especially if the farmer then decides not to pay the merchant until 6months later ha.

alps

Cops are charging an €80 margin to the unsuspecting farmer at present...

greysides

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Nope.
Reduce concentration by 10-15%.

I’ve put a good few tons of it into calves with an autofeeder. Puts a back on them and a serious shine.

Thanks.

C4d78

alps wrote: »

Cops are charging an €80 margin to the unsuspecting farmer at present...

€80Margin?? On a tonne of feed? Impossible. They’ve to pay for raw materials, compounding and transport. Am I missing something?

Gawddawggonnit

Last nights milk line washings went into the tank. Rince, acid, rince.
About 10k litres of milk in the tank and about 150L water and a half litre of acid...what to do?

Failed to contact Coop, then again it is a Saturday morning and what eegits would be working at 6am?

Suggestions?

Gawddawggonnit

C4d78 wrote: »

€80Margin?? On a tonne of feed? Impossible. They’ve to pay for raw materials, compounding and transport. Am I missing something?

It’s called a good margin.
Farmers wouldn’t be too acquainted with such things.